The Off Topic Topic

[Josquius]

Previously I was happy covid came now in my life rather than when I was 20. It would suck to lose that time going out.

Now my mind has changed. My company has asked people where they plan to work for longer than a month this year so they can check the legalities. Lots of talk of different places.

I'm jealous. To have had this in my mid 20s. Stable work and the ability to travel and do it wherever.... It's the dream. But that door has closed for me. Which is depressing.

Anyone else?

[grumbler]

Yeah, "prove you are leaving" is a common requirement for tourists.

Apparently leaving for a country bordering the US is not enough.

Yeah, that's the weird part of the requirement. 

I'm wiling to bet that he was not sent to a prison, though.  That's just journalistic bombast.

[Oexmelin]

Ice detention facilities:

https://www.ice.gov/detention-facilities

[Admiral Yi]

Previously I was happy covid came now in my life rather than when I was 20. It would suck to lose that time going out.

Yeah.  I feel for the kids who's college years were fucked up.

[crazy canuck]

Previously I was happy covid came now in my life rather than when I was 20. It would suck to lose that time going out.

Now my mind has changed. My company has asked people where they plan to work for longer than a month this year so they can check the legalities. Lots of talk of different places.

I'm jealous. To have had this in my mid 20s. Stable work and the ability to travel and do it wherever.... It's the dream. But that door has closed for me. Which is depressing.

Anyone else?

Don't feel too bad.  Lots of employers who let employees work wherever are suffering the legal consequences of having to comply with the legal requirements in those other jurisdictions.  As a result companies are gathering the information in part to tell employees they can't work where they thought they were going to go.  Also some employees are finding out they were working illegally in those other jurisdictions-although some countries have made special work visa exemptions for this sort of remote work.

[alfred russel]

Don't feel too bad.  Lots of employers who let employees work wherever are suffering the legal consequences of having to comply with the legal requirements in those other jurisdictions.  As a result companies are gathering the information in part to tell employees they can't work where they thought they were going to go.  Also some employees are finding out they were working illegally in those other jurisdictions-although some countries have made special work visa exemptions for this sort of remote work.

With a VPN you can tell them you are working wherever is most convenient for you for tax or legal reasons.

[The Minsky Moment]

Ice detention facilities:

https://www.ice.gov/detention-facilities

Yeah those places are awful, distinction without a difference really.  In some ways worse than a prison because whereas the police usually can't hold a suspect beyond 24 hours without charge, ICE can effectively detain for up to 6 months.

[crazy canuck]

Don't feel too bad.  Lots of employers who let employees work wherever are suffering the legal consequences of having to comply with the legal requirements in those other jurisdictions.  As a result companies are gathering the information in part to tell employees they can't work where they thought they were going to go.  Also some employees are finding out they were working illegally in those other jurisdictions-although some countries have made special work visa exemptions for this sort of remote work.

With a VPN you can tell them you are working wherever is most convenient for you for tax or legal reasons.

Yeah, and lying can also get you fired

[Josquius]

With a VPN you can tell them you are working wherever is most convenient for you for tax or legal reasons.

Brings to my imagination curious zoom calls.

"hey you redecorated. Nice. A bit dark for 3pm isn't it-you have tinted windows? And where did you find doors like that? IKEA?
... Hey wait. Is that godzilla attacking Tokyo outside your window?"

Don't feel too bad.  Lots of employers who let employees work wherever are suffering the legal consequences of having to comply with the legal requirements in those other jurisdictions.  As a result companies are gathering the information in part to tell employees they can't work where they thought they were going to go.  Also some employees are finding out they were working illegally in those other jurisdictions-although some countries have made special work visa exemptions for this sort of remote work.

They already have a green, yellow and red list. Quite a few people working abroad. Apparently looking to expand it depending on where people want to go.
Some places I wouldn't mind spending a few months seem very possible.

However this really does seem to be an area where the world has yet to catch up with the 21st century. Tax laws globally need a huge overhaul to deal with working for foreign companies. Sort of the personal end of all those double Dutch tax dodges and that sort of thing.

I do wonder about the place of vpns in this legality and why the presence of a physical body somewhere need be the issue.

[Syt]

[Admiral Yi]

wut?

[garbon]

wut?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-10853347/Bizarre-advert-Austrian-tourism-mocked.html

[Josquius]

Mission accomplished by the advertisers

[Eddie Teach]

I suppose it means more available flights.

[The Minsky Moment]

Germany tried to do the same deal but they couldn't convince anyone to go to London except Rudolf Hess