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Started by Korea, March 10, 2009, 06:24:26 AM

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Tamas

Other countries also have a lot more of them.

grumbler

It's the time of year for commencement speeches, so I will again offer the best commencement speech of them all:

I show this to my seniors every year, and I think that fully half of them get it.
The future is all around us, waiting, in moments of transition, to be born in moments of revelation. No one knows the shape of that future or where it will take us. We know only that it is always born in pain.   -G'Kar

Bayraktar!

Razgovory

Well, its official.  I'm moving away from the Paris of northern Cole county to the Paris of central Boone county.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Josquius

Either my scales are a broken or my poo has anti gravity properties 🤔
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Admiral Yi


crazy canuck

Quote from: grumbler on June 05, 2022, 07:03:19 PMIt's the time of year for commencement speeches, so I will again offer the best commencement speech of them all:

I show this to my seniors every year, and I think that fully half of them get it.

That's great!

Josquius

What is the name for the "You just call everyone who disagrees with you a bigot!" type argument that people make when called out for being bigots?
I don't seem to be able to find the big book of fallacies online.
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Jacob

Quote from: Josquius on June 06, 2022, 10:27:06 AMWhat is the name for the "You just call everyone who disagrees with you a bigot!" type argument that people make when called out for being bigots?
I don't seem to be able to find the big book of fallacies online.

Depending on how it's done, it's probably a combination of "tu coque" and "gish gallop".

Josquius

Quote from: Jacob on June 06, 2022, 10:30:02 AM
Quote from: Josquius on June 06, 2022, 10:27:06 AMWhat is the name for the "You just call everyone who disagrees with you a bigot!" type argument that people make when called out for being bigots?
I don't seem to be able to find the big book of fallacies online.

Depending on how it's done, it's probably a combination of "tu coque" and "gish gallop".

hmm, I don't think either of those fit.
What I mean is the kind of thing you see where people will say this to defend themselves against being called that. Often saying it before someone has even called them that but also when someone (often accurately) labels them it.
Not necessarily a bigot; I commonly see the pre-emptive version with nazi.

e.g.
A: "The loony left will just call anyone who disagrees with them a nazi! In my opinion we should gas the gays"
B: "Thats pretty damn literally nazi ...."
A: "Ha, see, you just call anyone who disagrees with you a nazi"
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Sheilbh

Listening to an In Our Time about an eleventh century subject and Melvyn Bragg managed to get an industrial revolution reference in :lol: :wub:
Let's bomb Russia!

Maladict

Quote from: Sheilbh on June 05, 2022, 08:35:07 AMZanza, Syt! Saw this doing the rounds on Twitter about how many trains are punctual and I'm a little surprised with the East-West divide but wondered if there's any reason/explanation :hmm:


No surprise there. I used to have to transfer at Cologne a lot and it was always an utter shit show. I made my connection definitely less than half the time.

Malthus

Quote from: Josquius on June 06, 2022, 10:37:32 AM
Quote from: Jacob on June 06, 2022, 10:30:02 AM
Quote from: Josquius on June 06, 2022, 10:27:06 AMWhat is the name for the "You just call everyone who disagrees with you a bigot!" type argument that people make when called out for being bigots?
I don't seem to be able to find the big book of fallacies online.

Depending on how it's done, it's probably a combination of "tu coque" and "gish gallop".

hmm, I don't think either of those fit.
What I mean is the kind of thing you see where people will say this to defend themselves against being called that. Often saying it before someone has even called them that but also when someone (often accurately) labels them it.
Not necessarily a bigot; I commonly see the pre-emptive version with nazi.

e.g.
A: "The loony left will just call anyone who disagrees with them a nazi! In my opinion we should gas the gays"
B: "Thats pretty damn literally nazi ...."
A: "Ha, see, you just call anyone who disagrees with you a nazi"

Perhaps "well posioning".

Claiming your opponents call everyone who disagrees with them a Nazi in order to make Nazi arguments; you have preemptively "poisoned the well" against accusations of Nazi-dom.
The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane—Marcus Aurelius

Syt

"You should engage with me on the merit of my argument that the gays should be gassed instead of using ad hominem attacks to silence discourse!"
I am, somehow, less interested in the weight and convolutions of Einstein's brain than in the near certainty that people of equal talent have lived and died in cotton fields and sweatshops.
—Stephen Jay Gould

Proud owner of 42 Zoupa Points.

celedhring

Quote from: celedhring on May 24, 2022, 06:58:37 AMTbf he will sell them out without breaking a sweat.

I wish there were more Spanish dates so I don't have to compete with all the country for tickets.

Got Springsteen tix  :punk:

They are not the greatest seats, because the stadium was nearly sold out when I was allowed in, but it will do. Love the Boss.

celedhring

Second Barcelona date announced. Assholes  :lol: