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[Duque de Bragança]

You're all retarded. No wonder Marvel does so well with the crash helmet crowd.

Marvel CGI-crapfests fans are precisely the ones who do not know which Batman is the best.

Easy.  The best is the one with the Joker that wasn't made in 1989

The Joker was in the 1966 movie. 

[Josquius]

So. This Invincible show. Saw it mentioned up thread and decided to check it out.
By adult animation I was expecting a comedy but... No. Its pretty played straight super hero stuff. Like the sort of thing I'd watch as a kid but... Aimed more at adults. Or Albeit still with a base in being for kids. Curious.
Also curious is the amount of pretty well known actors in it. Between this and the boys cartoon it's a curious trend.
Also noting a weird thing that everyone is played by someone of the same ethnicity. I do hope this is just a short term trend.

[viper37]

You're all retarded. No wonder Marvel does so well with the crash helmet crowd.

Marvel CGI-crapfests fans are precisely the ones who do not know which Batman is the best.

Easy.  The best is the one with the Joker that wasn't made in 1989

The Joker was in the 1966 movie. 

That does not count.

[Sheilbh]

Anyone have Batman thoughts?

[Savonarola]

Love and Death (1975)

Boris (Woody Allen):  You're a tyrant, and a dictator, and you start wars.
Napoleon:  Why is he reciting my credits?

Nowhere near as good as I remember (though I did get a chuckle out of that line in light of recent world events.) I'm still surprised he throws in jokes based on Tolstoy, Dostoyevsky and TS Eliot; we must have been much more sophisticated back in the 70s.

[CountDeMoney]

Anyone have Batman thoughts?

It was magnificent.
The emo-toon Tim Burton fetishists will disagree, and at almost three hours with thinky parts it's certainly not for the Ritalin-addled Marveltards, but it is an excellent reboot.

Great cast, and a great baddie in the Riddler.  He doesn't touch Heath Ledger's Joker for screen presence, but he's not supposed to:  he's more akin to John Doe in Se7en, driving not just the story with his crimes, but how those crimes increasingly affect the inner monologue of Batman himself.
 
It also impressed me was how, while at heart it was a detective crime story--which is really the traditional role of Batman--it managed to obliquely reference timely issues like income inequality, the political process, and even a touch of Qanon/MAGA fanboism without using too much of a sledgehammer to do it.  People may argue as to whether Pattinson is the best Batman, but IMHO he is the best Bruce Wayne.  While he questions himself and his worth as whether he's doing any good as Batman in the decadence and decay of Gotham, he also questions how much of this is he responsible for as Bruce Wayne.  A surprisingly intelligent treatment of the duality of the character, and it makes the final confrontation with the Riddler that much weightier. 

If you're a Batman/DC Universe fan, it's worth your time. It's definitely more than your usual superhero flick.  Could it have been shorter? Sure, but it zips along just fine.

I give it 4.5 "You're Shitting Me, This is the Shiny Vampire from Twilight?"s out of 5.

[Sheilbh]

Interesting - mostly agree. I really liked it.

I think it was possibly too long but that may just have been pacing because I found it a little stop-start.

Totally agree on Se7en and the Fincher mood, which was great. I think it's really interesting that the language of basically horror films have become part of mainstream blockbusters: the latest Bond opened up with a house invasion horror by a man in a creepy mask, this is Se7en - both have some fun Lecter interviews in a prison. Related to the Fincher mood, it felt like Gotham was a proper character in this movie in a way that it hasn't always in other Batman movies (I think Nolan's move to a more realist style made Gotham a little insipid) - again that's very Fincher with both Se7en and Zodiac being incredible urban films. And, sadly, Liverpool's never looked so gorgeous as when it's a decadent, rainy, crime ridden hellscape

I think all of the performances were great - I like Pattinson a lot and I think he is, on this outing, the best Batman. Zoe Kravitz is terrific, I really enjoyed John Turturro and Jeffrey Wright is always worth it (if I had movie production money I'd can the Branagh films and do a Poirot reboot starring Wright). Paul Dano was great as expected. Andy Serkis was under-utilised though.

Similarly I loved it being a detective story - I hope we see more like that. I think it's the most fun thing about Batman as a character v the rest of the superheroes. It also seemed to me a bit better than the normal hero v villain mirroring. Similarly - as Mark Kermode pointed out - I prefer the third act turning into a disaster movie v turning into a big Marvel action sequence.

I had not realised that Colin Farrell was in it until the end credits The pudgy and misshapen actors of the world need to unionise or do something to address the risk of good looking A-listers just prostheticising when they're older (as a Brit - this could destroy one of our major export industries ).

I also think there are a few absolutely terrific shots in this film and it really embraces that side of being a comic book movie in a way that some others haven't (and I think Pattinson and the design choices suit it) - the sunrise/set scene with Catwoman, the flare scene or the upside down end of one of the chases.

I thought the film's politics were a little questionable - but that's another issue

[FunkMonk]

I haven't seen it yet. Is it anything like Todd Phillips' Joker?

[CountDeMoney]

I haven't seen it yet. Is it anything like Todd Phillips' Joker?

Let's just say say you know Reeves watched it.  You will definitely feel the vibe.

[CountDeMoney]

I also think there are a few absolutely terrific shots in this film and it really embraces that side of being a comic book movie in a way that some others haven't (and I think Pattinson and the design choices suit it) - the sunrise/set scene with Catwoman, the flare scene or the upside down end of one of the chases.

There were some fantastic shots, yeah; but even the action sequences had a different look to them, whether it was whaling on thugs with a violence and severity you don't expect from a superhero, or how you could tell he was still learning to be the Batman. Definitely the anti-Bale. Excellent touches.

Going back to the cast, I really think the extra running time allowed characters like Falcone and the Penguin to be fleshed out accordingly, so they simply weren't set-peace stand ins. The extra investment really helped. 

And regarding the Penguin: Colin Farrell To Star In HBO Max Limited Series 'The Penguin'

I would like to think that Jeffrey Wright and Andy Serkis were held back intentionally, as they will undoubtedly be featured more in any follow-up production. You saw the set up they gave you at the end. You know what I'm talking about. 

I thought the film's politics were a little questionable - but that's another issue

Of course you did. Of course you did.

[Darth Wagtaros]

Batman was good. I liked it quite a bit.

[FunkMonk]

I haven't seen it yet. Is it anything like Todd Phillips' Joker?

Let's just say say you know Reeves watched it.  You will definitely feel the vibe.

Interesting. I feel like I kinda got some of that vibe in some of the stills and trailers so my Spidey sense it seems wasn't off the mark. I'll try to catch it next week

[grumbler]

Anyone have Batman thoughts?

Batman or The Batman?

"The" is incredibly pretentious.

On Batman, the best Batman movie theme music:

[Eddie Teach]

Can Wright do a Belgian accent? 

[CountDeMoney]

Anyone have Batman thoughts?

Batman or The Batman?

"The" is incredibly pretentious.

Michigan wins the Big Ten, and you're still an unconscionable twat.  It's Detective Comics, not OSU.