Brexit and the waning days of the United Kingdom

[Syt]

Austria used to have various police organizations, but in 2005 they were all reformed into the Bundespolizei under the federal interior minister, with each state having a Landespolizeidirektion reporting up.

Quite a difference to Germany where the police is in the responsibility if the states (which is why you may see police in different parts of Germany having different uniforms, cars etc.). There is also a separate federal police, though I'd have to look up their exact responsibilities.

[Admiral Yi]

I do wonder how things work in the UK with the typical American thing of escaping across state lines.

This is not a typical American thing.

[Valmy]

I do wonder how things work in the UK with the typical American thing of escaping across state lines.

This is not a typical American thing.

Typical among people caught by the FBI I guess.

[Admiral Yi]

OTOH aren't there scenes in movies about moonshiners where they say if we can only make it to the county line?

[Richard Hakluyt]

It was a commonplace in old American movies; perhaps standing out more to British viewers as we had nothing similar.

[Josquius]

I do wonder how things work in the UK with the typical American thing of escaping across state lines.

This is not a typical American thing.

No?
I had understood it, from movies, when running from the police you cross state lines then they can't get you (but it also makes what you're doing more of a crime and brings FBI-involvement)

[Josquius]

In other UK news...Seems we had a bielection I completely forgot about.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_Birmingham_Erdington_by-election

The new MP worked as a nurse for 25 years, sounds good.
Results are also promising, considering this was a seat which has held much the same way for years.

[Admiral Yi]

I do wonder how things work in the UK with the typical American thing of escaping across state lines.

This is not a typical American thing.

No?
I had understood it, from movies, when running from the police you cross state lines then they can't get you (but it also makes what you're doing more of a crime and brings FBI-involvement)

A quick google search didn't provide a definitive answer, so I'm going to give you my guess.

I think most of those scenes of criminals running for the safety of the state line are set in the 30s, maybe into the 40s.  I can tell you in my 45 odd years of following the news I can't recall a contemporary case of criminals reaching the state border and being free. I think what might have changed is states or the US enacted universal jurisdiction, so their police can arrest people who committed crimes in other states.  And we definitely have a legal process for extradition to another state, as supported by the ironclad source of Law and Order.

[Syt]

I recall making it across the state line was usually a major thing in Dukes of Hazzard.

Or was it county line?

[Tamas]

In Hungary there has been just one police force since the end of WW2, but there is a national level organisation under which there are county (and Budapest) level commands I believe.

The pre-WW2 second police force ("Csendorseg" as in quiet-guards as opposed to police which mirror translates to order-guards) was mostly a rural force and it had a very strong undeclared political police mandate, keeping local communities in check above and beyond fighting crime.

[Admiral Yi]

I recall making it across the state line was usually a major thing in Dukes of Hazzard.

Or was it county line?

I haven't watched much Dukes of Hazzard, but I figure that was like Porkie's, where one county had a sheriff that was an asshole and hated our heroes, and an adjacent county where the sheriff was besties with the heroes.

[Sheilbh]

I was thinking more that it's a trope in US crime dramas and true crime about the guy who isn't even identified because he commits crimes across county lines (I think Congress funded a national database in the 90s because it kept happening). Or the jurisdictional fight about the FBI parachuting in etc.

It may still be an issue here but it's not something I've really heard of.

Is the distinction between the two police types in Europe a national/local one?
I'd thought one type was more for urban areas and the more militaryish one in rural areas.

I think it varies - I think the idea of the gendarmes/carabinieri is a rural force and then an urban police force but I'm not 100% sure. Then there's places like Germany that are federal.

[Duque de Bragança]

Is the distinction between the two police types in Europe a national/local one?
I'd thought one type was more for urban areas and the more militaryish one in rural areas.

Yep, Police nationale and municipale (cities) and gendarmerie (countryside/small towns) in France. They make lead investigations in each other's jurisdiction if need be. Police rivalries is more of a thing inside big cities' specialised police offices (anti-gang/anti-drug etc.)

Portugal with PSP (Polícia de Segurança pública not just for big cities) and GNR (Guarda Nacional Republicana) is organised along comparable lines. Not exactly like Garda in Ireland. 
Used to be an autonomous Guarda Fiscal, comparable to Guardia di Finanza in Italy. Now they are part of GNR.

[ulmont]

I recall making it across the state line was usually a major thing in Dukes of Hazzard.

Or was it county line?

County line, where Sheriff Rosco P. Coltrane's jurisdiction ended (on the show). 

In reality, in Georgia until 2016, law enforcement officials could make arrests anywhere in the state for traffic offenses committed in their presence.  In 2016 with Zilke v. State, the Supreme Court of Georgia ruled that an LEO could only issue a citation outside their jurisdiction and could not make a custodial arrest.

Also in reality, there are doctrines for hot pursuit and often, where jurisdictional lines are close to each other, even law enforcement officials sworn into multiple jurisdictions simultaneously to extend authority (for one example, Port Authority LEOs are police officers in both New Jersey and New York).  I thought the Philly airport had something similar but I couldn't find it in 30 seconds.

[Sheilbh]

Re the lack of Ukraine having any real impact on Johnson's numbers (despite most people supporting government's policies). The fight back starts here!