Russo-Ukrainian War 2014-23 and Invasion

[Grey Fox]

https://twitter.com/TrentTelenko/status/1499164245250002944?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1499164245250002944%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_c10&ref_url=

Interesting thread on the logistical issues of cheap Chinese military tires on Russian vehicles.

[viper37]

Kershon has fallen.  Mariopol is barely holding its ground.

[Jacob]

https://twitter.com/TrentTelenko/status/1499164245250002944?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1499164245250002944%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_c10&ref_url=

Interesting thread on the logistical issues of cheap Chinese military tires on Russian vehicles.

That is interesting, you're right.

[Jacob]

Kershon has fallen.  Mariopol is barely holding its ground.

What's your source?

I know the NYT has said that, but I've seen other accounts that the Ukrainian government says there's still fighting in Kherson.

[DGuller]

I think that pretty much everyone has now conceded that Kherson has been captured, or at least the administrative buildings have been.  Sounds like Mariopol is just being leveled to the ground by artillery.  I wonder if that's a punishment to it for holding out during the 2014 war.

[jimmy olsen]

That's a fair point, though I'm not just going off Twitter, but also reports from my family of people who speak to their friends/relatives living in Russia. 

I do get a feeling that a lot of Westerns think that if they just manage to get truthful information into Russia, then it'll immediately be like the ending of XCOM 2, where people all at once realize they've been lied to and decide to rebel within 2 minutes.  You'll find that Russians are well aware of the propaganda that we call truth, they're not stupid.  They're well aware that some people claim that it's Russia and not Ukraine that's shelling Kharkiv, they're just too savvy to buy into that nonsense and are disappointed that you aren't.

So like Gaijin de Moscu, for example.

Has he even posted since the invasion or is he hiding in shame?

[viper37]

Kershon has fallen.  Mariopol is barely holding its ground.

What's your source?

I know the NYT has said that, but I've seen other accounts that the Ukrainian government says there's still fighting in Kherson.

La Presse:
https://www.lapresse.ca/international/europe/2022-03-02/guerre-en-ukraine/prise-de-kherson-par-l-armee-russe-discussions-sur-un-cessez-le-feu.php

Kherson take by Russian: discussions about a cease-fire underway

That "fall" seems reliable, the cease-fire, I won't hold my breath.

[viper37]

That's a fair point, though I'm not just going off Twitter, but also reports from my family of people who speak to their friends/relatives living in Russia. 

I do get a feeling that a lot of Westerns think that if they just manage to get truthful information into Russia, then it'll immediately be like the ending of XCOM 2, where people all at once realize they've been lied to and decide to rebel within 2 minutes.  You'll find that Russians are well aware of the propaganda that we call truth, they're not stupid.  They're well aware that some people claim that it's Russia and not Ukraine that's shelling Kharkiv, they're just too savvy to buy into that nonsense and are disappointed that you aren't.

So like Gaijin de Moscu, for example.

Has he even posted since the invasion or is he hiding in shame?

I think he left before the invasion began.

[Admiral Yi]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHZ_qfuEKRY

More than you want to know about the NLAW.

[celedhring]

Looks like the Russians are going to land in Odessa today.

https://twitter.com/Osinttechnical/status/1499270570923417603

That was probably in the cards whenever they took Kherson.

[Syt]

The (privately owned) wall behind the Russian war memorial (also occasionally called Memorial to the Unknown Looter) has been painted in Ukrainian colors.



Bit meek, but ok. Russian embassy says it's a great way of symbolizing the sacrifice of Russians and Ukrainians in ridding Europe of Fascism.

[Syt]

Something for the brigade - a 2015 article about Putin's "real" mother (an unwed Georgian woman), and how investigators trying uncover the facts have met untimely ends:

https://www.zeit.de/feature/vladimir-putin-mother

[The Brain]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHZ_qfuEKRY

More than you want to know about the NLAW.

Bofors designs tend to be pretty solid.

[Sheilbh]

So the one big area of Russia's economy that is still unsanctioned is energy - and my understanding is we're actually seeing record highs of imports into Europe (I think this is almost automated/algorithmic because of pricing) through the pipelines. But given the rest of the sanctions how does this actually get paid for? How does it work?

I'm very simple but in my head if you basically cut off the financial system then there's no way to pay for gas so there's a knock-on sanction to energy. But that's not the case so how does it work?

[The Larch]

So the one big area of Russia's economy that is still unsanctioned is energy - and my understanding is we're actually seeing record highs of imports into Europe (I think this is almost automated/algorithmic because of pricing) through the pipelines. But given the rest of the sanctions how does this actually get paid for? How does it work?

I'm very simple but in my head if you basically cut off the financial system then there's no way to pay for gas so there's a knock-on sanction to energy. But that's not the case so how does it work?

I remember reading about the pros and cons of taking Russia off SWITCH that it would not affect paying Russia for gas and other resources, but can't remember why.