http://news.yahoo.com/u-boy-scouts-set-end-ban-gay-members-150711650.html
QuoteThe Boy Scouts of America called to end a long-standing ban on openly gay members, a spokesman said on Friday, but the organization's board must still vote in May on whether to ratify the resolution.
If the vote is approved, "no youth may be denied membership in the Boy Scouts of America on the basis of sexual orientation or preference alone," Deron Smith, the organization's spokesman, told Reuters.
Smith noted that the decision drew from three months of research, surveys and discussions and was "among the most complex and challenging issues facing the BSA and society today."
The deliberations over whether to admit openly gay and lesbian members to the Boy Scouts has divided organizers, polarized its corporate and religious sponsors, and placed the group at the center of a nationwide debate over gay rights over the past two years.
"This is a historic change for the Boy Scouts," said Patrick Boyle, whose 1994 book "Scout's Honor" examined sexual abuse in the Boy Scouts of America.
"You have a more than hundred-year-old organization changing what it considered a fundamental belief just a decade ago. That says a lot about the Scouts and a lot about how far the gay rights movement has come in the United States."
I'm sure it's great for your cause, but how many gay threads do we need.
This is an excellent policy change.
The Boy Scouts teach awesome skills; a gay kid should be able to partake of that kind of education.
Quote from: 11B4V on April 19, 2013, 10:58:10 AM
I'm sure it's great for your cause, but how many gay threads do we need.
You don't have to read them. :)
Besides, I don't think allowing gay members into the boy scouts really has any tangible benefits for me besides general increased tolerance for homosexuality. :unsure:
Quote from: garbon on April 19, 2013, 11:03:10 AM
Quote from: 11B4V on April 19, 2013, 10:58:10 AM
I'm sure it's great for your cause, but how many gay threads do we need.
You don't have to read them. :)
Besides, I don't think allowing gay members into the boy scouts really has any tangible benefits for me besides general increased tolerance for homosexuality. :unsure:
No, they could teach you Nancys some woodcraft/survival skills. Dont sell them short.
Quote from: garbon on April 19, 2013, 11:03:10 AM
Quote from: 11B4V on April 19, 2013, 10:58:10 AM
I'm sure it's great for your cause, but how many gay threads do we need.
You don't have to read them. :)
True, but you will all get your day in the near future.
:yeah:
You are now free to become scout leader!
Cal, you were a boy scout, weren't you? Eagle Scout, iirc. So answer this question for me:
1.) BSA said that gays were not allowed in the BSA because they're a Christian organization.
2.) There are Christians who do not believe that being gay is a sin.
3.) BSA isn't affiliated with a particular Christian church.
Am I correct on all of the above?
If I am, why haven't the Christians who have no issue with homosexuality stepped up and said so?
This is the part that gets me. I know a lot of Christians who say things like, "Well, I'm not one of those kinds of Christians. I believe in equal rights for everyone. I'm not a fundy nutjob." And yet, you never hear those people, in a Christian organization, saying, "How about we represent all Christians and not just you fundy nutjobs?"
Quote from: garbon on April 19, 2013, 11:03:10 AM
Quote from: 11B4V on April 19, 2013, 10:58:10 AM
I'm sure it's great for your cause, but how many gay threads do we need.
You don't have to read them. :)
He reads them as long as they don't act "faggy".
Quote from: merithyn on April 19, 2013, 01:32:51 PM
1.) BSA said that gays were not allowed in the BSA because they're a Christian organization.
http://www.scouting.org/scoutsource/Awards/ReligiousAwards/chart.aspx (http://www.scouting.org/scoutsource/Awards/ReligiousAwards/chart.aspx)
http://www.islamiccouncilonscouting.com/ (http://www.islamiccouncilonscouting.com/)
So gays are already allowed into the army and boyscouts? What's next? The KKK and neonazis?
It's laughable how we want to be a part of those patriarchal (para)military circle-jerks.
Quote from: Martinus on April 19, 2013, 02:21:19 PM
So gays are already allowed into the army and boyscouts? What's next? The KKK and neonazis?
It's laughable how we want to be a part of those patriarchal (para)military circle-jerks.
The AB needs to get diversified too.
Quote from: 11B4V on April 19, 2013, 02:23:14 PM
Quote from: Martinus on April 19, 2013, 02:21:19 PM
So gays are already allowed into the army and boyscouts? What's next? The KKK and neonazis?
It's laughable how we want to be a part of those patriarchal (para)military circle-jerks.
The AB needs to get diversified too.
Wassat?
Quote from: Martinus on April 19, 2013, 02:24:24 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on April 19, 2013, 02:23:14 PM
Quote from: Martinus on April 19, 2013, 02:21:19 PM
So gays are already allowed into the army and boyscouts? What's next? The KKK and neonazis?
It's laughable how we want to be a part of those patriarchal (para)military circle-jerks.
The AB needs to get diversified too.
Wassat?
AB=Aryan Brohood
Quote from: merithyn on April 19, 2013, 01:32:51 PM
Cal, you were a boy scout, weren't you? Eagle Scout, iirc. So answer this question for me:
1.) BSA said that gays were not allowed in the BSA because they're a Christian organization.
2.) There are Christians who do not believe that being gay is a sin.
3.) BSA isn't affiliated with a particular Christian church.
Am I correct on all of the above?
If I am, why haven't the Christians who have no issue with homosexuality stepped up and said so?
This is the part that gets me. I know a lot of Christians who say things like, "Well, I'm not one of those kinds of Christians. I believe in equal rights for everyone. I'm not a fundy nutjob." And yet, you never hear those people, in a Christian organization, saying, "How about we represent all Christians and not just you fundy nutjobs?"
I was a Boy Scout, yes, but I never reached the rank of Eagle, no.
1. I don't think the Boy Scouts claim to be a Christian organization. There are Jewish Boy Scouts, Muslim Boy Scouts, Hindu Boy Scouts, etc. However, the BSA does require all of its members to be religious and 'reverent'.
2. Correct.
3. Correct. HOWEVER, the BSA has a very prominent association with the Mormons, in that pretty much all Mormon boys are expected to be in the Scouts, and the LDS is I believe a major donor to the BSA. When I was at Philmont there were literally
hundreds of Mormon troops there at the same time.
Quote from: Martinus on April 19, 2013, 02:21:19 PM
So gays are already allowed into the army and boyscouts? What's next? The KKK and neonazis?
It's laughable how we want to be a part of those patriarchal (para)military circle-jerks.
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Quote from: Martinus on April 19, 2013, 02:21:19 PM
So gays are already allowed into the army and boyscouts? What's next? The KKK and neonazis?
It's laughable how we want to be a part of those patriarchal (para)military circle-jerks.
plus you should fit in with the circle-jerks quite well.
Quote from: 11B4V on April 19, 2013, 02:35:36 PM
Quote from: Martinus on April 19, 2013, 02:21:19 PM
So gays are already allowed into the army and boyscouts? What's next? The KKK and neonazis?
It's laughable how we want to be a part of those patriarchal (para)military circle-jerks.
plus you should fit in with the circle-jerks quite well.
Yeah, but only if that's part of roleplaying.
Quote from: Caliga on April 19, 2013, 02:27:29 PM
I was a Boy Scout, yes, but I never reached the rank of Eagle, no.
1. I don't think the Boy Scouts claim to be a Christian organization. There are Jewish Boy Scouts, Muslim Boy Scouts, Hindu Boy Scouts, etc. However, the BSA does require all of its members to be religious and 'reverent'.
2. Correct.
3. Correct. HOWEVER, the BSA has a very prominent association with the Mormons, in that pretty much all Mormon boys are expected to be in the Scouts, and the LDS is I believe a major donor to the BSA. When I was at Philmont there were literally hundreds of Mormon troops there at the same time.
Ah, okay. So they're really non-denominational, but really, really, they're Mormon. Got it.
I wouldn't go so far as to say that the BSA is Mormon or even controlled by the Mormons, but the Mormons do wield tremendous influence, both through sheer number of members and donations, so I have no doubt that's why the BSA has been so reluctant to flex on the "we hate gays" issue.
http://www.standard.net/stories/2013/04/19/lds-church-review-boy-scout-plan-lift-gay-ban
QuoteMormon church leaders say they will carefully review the Boy Scouts of America's new proposal on the organization's long-standing ban on gays before it takes a position.
The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints spokesman Michael Purdy said Friday they are looking closely at the language in the proposal and studying the implications.
The Scouts announced Friday that the proposal would be submitted at its national meeting in Texas the week of May 20.
Figures from the Boy Scouts of America show there are more Mormon Boy Scouts nationally than any other religious denomination. In the Boy Scouts' Great Salt Lake Council, 99 percent of the troops are sponsored by the Mormon church.
The LDS church teaches its members that marriage is only between a man and a woman and that same-sex relationships are sinful.
Quote from: garbon on April 19, 2013, 03:44:30 PM
http://www.standard.net/stories/2013/04/19/lds-church-review-boy-scout-plan-lift-gay-ban
QuoteMormon church leaders say they will carefully review the Boy Scouts of America's new proposal on the organization's long-standing ban on gays before it takes a position.
The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints spokesman Michael Purdy said Friday they are looking closely at the language in the proposal and studying the implications.
The Scouts announced Friday that the proposal would be submitted at its national meeting in Texas the week of May 20.
Figures from the Boy Scouts of America show there are more Mormon Boy Scouts nationally than any other religious denomination. In the Boy Scouts' Great Salt Lake Council, 99 percent of the troops are sponsored by the Mormon church.
The LDS church teaches its members that marriage is only between a man and a woman and that same-sex relationships are sinful.
Sounds awfully Mormon to me.
Btw, I did read that the LDS was one of the few church groups not present during supreme court sessions. All the other groups were out in defense of keeping marriage between a man and a woman.
@Meri I don't think we are disagreeing with each other on that. :sleep:
But the BSA definitely is not controlled by the LDS Church in any formal sense and you certainly don't have to be a Mormon to belong. My troop was sponsored by the United Methodist Church, for example, and there was a synagogue near me that sponsored a Jewish troop.
Quote from: merithyn on April 19, 2013, 03:55:48 PM
Sounds awfully Mormon to me.
You didn't read the links I posted at all, did you? (https://languish.org/forums/Smileys/langsmiley/dry.gif)
Quote from: citizen k on April 19, 2013, 05:32:27 PM
Quote from: merithyn on April 19, 2013, 03:55:48 PM
Sounds awfully Mormon to me.
You didn't read the links I posted at all, did you? (https://languish.org/forums/Smileys/langsmiley/dry.gif)
Yes, I did. :)
But just because they have all of these other lovely badges, if the rules are de facto Mormon (because they run the damn organization), they don't really mean much, do they? I mean, based on Cal's answer, any religion is fine so long as the boy is faithful. Except that I'm fairly sure they don't mean that because there are a number of those churches that have no problem with homosexuality and gay marriage, ie Episcopalian.
Quote from: Caliga on April 19, 2013, 02:27:29 PM
in that pretty much all Mormon boys are expected to be in the Scouts
No shit. Did not know that.
Why do you think Mormons are so good at tying knots? :)
Didn't know that either.
Quote from: Caliga on April 19, 2013, 07:04:22 PM
Why do you think Mormons are so good at tying knots? :)
kinky motherfuckers
Quote from: merithyn on April 19, 2013, 05:40:08 PM
But just because they have all of these other lovely badges, if the rules are de facto Mormon (because they run the damn organization), they don't really mean much, do they? I mean, based on Cal's answer, any religion is fine so long as the boy is faithful. Except that I'm fairly sure they don't mean that because there are a number of those churches that have no problem with homosexuality and gay marriage, ie Episcopalian.
The Mormons do NOT run the Boy Scouts. :frusty:
Let me put it this way: until I went to Philmont, I didn't realize there were
any Mormons in scouting and barely knew what the LDS Church even was.
Saying that the Mormons run the Boy Scouts is like saying the NRA runs the Republican Party. Sure, the NRA wields a lot of infuence over the GOP but it does not actually control it. :sleep:
Lies!
Quote from: katmai on April 19, 2013, 07:20:44 PM
Lies!
I knew that analogy would work some people up. :)
WTF is "Philmont," Calbert?
Philmont National Boy Scout Ranch, located in Cimarron, New Mexico. I did a two week trek there. Hiked 126 miles. :cool:
Quote from: Caliga on April 19, 2013, 08:54:04 PM
Philmont National Boy Scout Ranch, located in Cimarron, New Mexico. I did a two week trek there. Hiked 126 miles. :cool:
Right on. :cool:
Last September or October, my aging mother was taking a brisk walk for her health along a path in a big woodsy park nearby, and came upon a troop of younger Scouts blocking up the trail with their slow-poking. Being an impatient New Yorker, tried to overtake them rapidly, and in doing so, slipped on a rock and broke her wrist real bad, with the bone coming out of the skin.
And then the Scouts rushed into action to make sure she was okay, and the leader put on a very good splint thing with a t-shirt, and they escorted her the half hour trek back to the parking lot, all 25 of them or whatever.
She was so whacked out from the fall and injury, and grateful to the scouts, that when they got there, she kept trying to show the kids her nasty injury and how the scoutmaster had fixed it, cause she thought it would be a good "learning experience" for them, but the scoutmaster was desperately trying to keep from scaring these little boys with her dangling hand and bone sticking out of the skin. :lol:
She says she doesn't know what she would have done if the Scouts hadn't been there to save her impatient ass, so I salute them. :sleep:
Also, that must have been an awesome scouting experience right out of the textbook -- "An old lady sustains a serious injury in the woods: Scouts in action!" :o :swiss:
I have to know that she's okay first so I know whether or not I can :lmfao: at that awesome story.
Quote from: Caliga on April 19, 2013, 07:15:34 PM
The Mormons do NOT run the Boy Scouts. :frusty:
Let me put it this way: until I went to Philmont, I didn't realize there were any Mormons in scouting and barely knew what the LDS Church even was.
Saying that the Mormons run the Boy Scouts is like saying the NRA runs the Republican Party. Sure, the NRA wields a lot of infuence over the GOP but it does not actually control it. :sleep:
Dude, right now the BSA are waiting to see what the LDS will do regarding allowing gays into their cabal. While the Mormons may not run the BSA, they most definitely drive policy, which means that they, effectively, "run" the BSA.
Quote from: fahdiz on April 19, 2013, 09:37:00 PM
I have to know that she's okay first so I know whether or not I can :lmfao: at that awesome story.
:D Yes, yes, got a plate put in and it healed well (though it naturally still bothers her to a normal degree).
How about you offer up a comment on the article, Garbon? Even I post a sentecne or two .
Quote from: jimmy olsen on April 24, 2013, 06:28:03 AM
How about you offer up a comment on the article, Garbon? Even I post a sentecne or two .
Yeah a sentence that disrespects grammar and spelling conventions.
Besides, why should I? You see to have done a bang up job at adding a useless comment to just about every thread today. :)
If you don't really have anything to add, why not let the author of the article speak for himself.
Well, I imagine they'll get litigated out of existence once the lawsuits start over all the rapes.
Quote from: merithyn on April 19, 2013, 10:35:25 PM
Quote from: Caliga on April 19, 2013, 07:15:34 PM
The Mormons do NOT run the Boy Scouts. :frusty:
Let me put it this way: until I went to Philmont, I didn't realize there were any Mormons in scouting and barely knew what the LDS Church even was.
Saying that the Mormons run the Boy Scouts is like saying the NRA runs the Republican Party. Sure, the NRA wields a lot of infuence over the GOP but it does not actually control it. :sleep:
Dude, right now the BSA are waiting to see what the LDS will do regarding allowing gays into their cabal. While the Mormons may not run the BSA, they most definitely drive policy, which means that they, effectively, "run" the BSA.
:rolleyes:
Quote from: merithyn on April 19, 2013, 10:35:25 PM
Dude, right now the BSA are waiting to see what the LDS will do regarding allowing gays into their cabal. While the Mormons may not run the BSA, they most definitely drive policy, which means that they, effectively, "run" the BSA.
Well I think my analogy re: the NRA and the GOP was a good one, so let me ask you this: do you think that the NRA runs the Republican Party? If so then while I don't agree with you in either the case of the GOP or the BSA, I can understand your point of view, and probably we're saying
almost the same thing except I guess I am more of a literalist than you are. :)
Quote from: Caliga on April 24, 2013, 09:34:34 AM
Well I think my analogy re: the NRA and the GOP was a good one, so let me ask you this: do you think that the NRA runs the Republican Party? If so then while I don't agree with you in either the case of the GOP or the BSA, I can understand your point of view, and probably we're saying almost the same thing except I guess I am more of a literalist than you are. :)
Yes, I do, and yes, I think we are, and yes, I agree. :)
:hug:
Ban lifted :yeah:
Adult gays are still banned though. :hmm:
Quote from: Caliga on May 24, 2013, 06:28:33 AM
Ban lifted :yeah:
Adult gays are still banned though. :hmm:
That's even more offensive, imo.
Previously, the ban could have been justified on "moral"/religious grounds. Now, they are effectively saying that adult gay people are pedophiles.
They want to keep Mart away from impressionable youth. You might turn them gay. :(
Quote from: Capetan Mihali on April 19, 2013, 09:09:06 PM
She was so whacked out from the fall and injury, and grateful to the scouts, that when they got there, she kept trying to show the kids her nasty injury and how the scoutmaster had fixed it, cause she thought it would be a good "learning experience" for them, but the scoutmaster was desperately trying to keep from scaring these little boys with her dangling hand and bone sticking out of the skin. :lol:
That's an awesome story.
Quote from: Martinus on May 24, 2013, 06:51:54 AM
Quote from: Caliga on May 24, 2013, 06:28:33 AM
Ban lifted :yeah:
Adult gays are still banned though. :hmm:
That's even more offensive, imo.
Previously, the ban could have been justified on "moral"/religious grounds. Now, they are effectively saying that adult gay people are pedophiles.
Have you ever known a gay that wasn't a pedophile?
Garbon?
Quote from: Martinus on April 19, 2013, 02:21:19 PM
So gays are already allowed into the army and boyscouts? What's next? The KKK and neonazis?
It's laughable how we want to be a part of those patriarchal (para)military circle-jerks.
What exactly about being gay means you do not like patriarchal (para)military circle-jerks?
Quote from: Martinus on May 24, 2013, 06:51:54 AM
That's even more offensive, imo.
Previously, the ban could have been justified on "moral"/religious grounds. Now, they are effectively saying that adult gay people are pedophiles.
It's a compromise...which of course are usually offensive to everybody.
Quote from: citizen k on April 19, 2013, 01:51:02 PM
http://www.scouting.org/scoutsource/Awards/ReligiousAwards/chart.aspx (http://www.scouting.org/scoutsource/Awards/ReligiousAwards/chart.aspx)[/quote]
Woah even we have one...right above the Zoroastrian scouts.
Quote from: Caliga on May 24, 2013, 06:28:33 AM
Ban lifted :yeah:
Adult gays are still banned though. :hmm:
Don't worry, one day you'll be allowed in. :console:
Quote from: katmai on May 24, 2013, 12:13:46 PM
Quote from: Caliga on May 24, 2013, 06:28:33 AM
Ban lifted :yeah:
Adult gays are still banned though. :hmm:
Don't worry, one day you'll be allowed in. :console:
They will never admit people who work in HR. ;)
Quote from: Malthus on May 24, 2013, 12:18:12 PM
They will never admit people who work in HR. ;)
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Quote from: Caliga on May 24, 2013, 01:04:42 PM
Quote from: Malthus on May 24, 2013, 12:18:12 PM
They will never admit people who work in HR. ;)
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Why are you guys posting pictures of CdM?
No way.
This is the end of the wold as we know it.
A non-fag org should appear soon.
Quote from: Siege on May 27, 2013, 03:43:40 AM
No way.
This is the end of the wold as we know it.
A non-fag org should appear soon.
If the Army can handle them, why can't the BSA?
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on May 27, 2013, 03:45:04 AM
Quote from: Siege on May 27, 2013, 03:43:40 AM
No way.
This is the end of the wold as we know it.
A non-fag org should appear soon.
If the Army can handle them, why can't the BSA?
Children?
If the Boy Scouts start turning kids gay, the others can just have more kids to make up for it.
Quote from: Siege on May 27, 2013, 03:43:40 AM
No way.
This is the end of the wold as we know it.
A non-fag org should appear soon.
Why haven't you been taken out by some stray bullet yet, so you could find for yourself that your shitty Jehovah is some fairy-tale?
Tommy DeVito is dead, and Siege is alive? That's just not fair. :(
Tommy was a little punk with a shinebox.
http://news.yahoo.com/disney-ends-funding-boy-scouts-over-gay-policy-220320665.html
QuoteDisney ends funding to Boy Scouts over gay policy
The Walt Disney Company will cut funding to the Boy Scouts of America beginning in 2015 because of a policy that bans gay adult leaders in the organization.
The Boy Scouts organization is "disappointed" by the decision, which will affect the organization's ability to serve children, Deron Smith, a Boy Scouts spokesman, said in a statement Sunday. Disney does not provide direct funding to the Boy Scouts, but it donates money to some troops in exchange for volunteer hours completed by Disney employees, he said.
"We believe every child deserves the opportunity to be a part of the Scouting experience and we are disappointed in this decision because it will impact our ability to serve kids," he said.
David Jefferson, chief spokesman for The Walt Disney Company, did not respond to calls or emails.
Disney's decision came to light after the president of a local Boy Scout council based in Orlando, Fla., where Disney World is based, sent a memo alerting local troops to the decision.
The memo was posted on the website of Scouts for Equality, an organization that is critical of the Boy Scouts' policy to ban adult gay troop leaders.
The Boy Scouts lifted a ban on gay youth last year.
Is banning gay troup leaders contrary to US human rights laws (Fed or State)?
You can fire people if they are gay in Missouri.
I don't think sexual orientation is a "protected class."
Quote from: Razgovory on March 03, 2014, 03:39:33 PM
You can fire people if they are gay in Missouri.
This, of course, varies wildly. Apparently in MO there is a mix of what you can/can't do.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_employment_discrimination_in_the_United_States
Interesting, my uncle refused to hire a tranny to be a principal in his school district in NJ a while back. Wonder if it was before their discrimination laws, or if he figured out some other way to avoid hiring him?
We had a guy once who showed up one day dressed as a woman. I (and others) suspected he just wanted in the chick restrooms.
The company paid him some money to just move on down the road.
Awesome, 'Ease on Down The Road' from The Wiz is now stuck in my head. :cool:
Quote from: garbon on March 03, 2014, 04:20:00 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on March 03, 2014, 03:39:33 PM
You can fire people if they are gay in Missouri.
This, of course, varies wildly. Apparently in MO there is a mix of what you can/can't do.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_employment_discrimination_in_the_United_States (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_employment_discrimination_in_the_United_States)
Huh, well what do you know. I know you can discriminate in the private sector in Missouri, cause my brother got canned due to it. I guess the private sector once against is leading the way in freedom.
As in he told you that's why he was fired?
Quote from: garbon on March 03, 2014, 08:30:45 PM
As in he told you that's why he was fired?
Actually he quit because they told him they would fire him because he was gay. But it's close enough.
Quote from: Razgovory on March 03, 2014, 08:34:48 PM
Quote from: garbon on March 03, 2014, 08:30:45 PM
As in he told you that's why he was fired?
Actually he quit because they told him they would fire him because he was gay. But it's close enough.
Again, he reported that though? Your brother seems kinda slutty but you haven't made him seem like the most...trustworthy?
Also, why quit? Where's the unemployment in that?
Quote from: garbon on March 03, 2014, 08:39:15 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on March 03, 2014, 08:34:48 PM
Quote from: garbon on March 03, 2014, 08:30:45 PM
As in he told you that's why he was fired?
Actually he quit because they told him they would fire him because he was gay. But it's close enough.
Again, he reported that though? Your brother seems kinda slutty but you haven't made him seem like the most...trustworthy?
Also, why quit? Where's the unemployment in that?
What can I say? He's stupid. I don't think he lied about it though. He's very scrupulous with that kind of thing.
Gotcha.
Quote from: Razgovory on March 03, 2014, 08:34:48 PM
Quote from: garbon on March 03, 2014, 08:30:45 PM
As in he told you that's why he was fired?
Actually he quit because they told him they would fire him because he was gay. But it's close enough.
There was a gay fellow who was terminated from one of the major firms a number of years back. He was convinced it was because he was gay. The truth was he was a terrible lawyer. The other thing he didnt know is the guy who fired him was also gay. At least the terminated fellow sure carried on like he didnt know his boss was gay as he wrote a number of scathing emails accusing his boss of being homophobic.
Self-loathing gays are the worst.
Quote from: Valmy on March 04, 2014, 01:52:56 PM
Self-loathing gays are the worst.
The worst? :yeahright:
Quote from: crazy canuck on March 04, 2014, 01:36:14 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on March 03, 2014, 08:34:48 PM
Quote from: garbon on March 03, 2014, 08:30:45 PM
As in he told you that's why he was fired?
Actually he quit because they told him they would fire him because he was gay. But it's close enough.
There was a gay fellow who was terminated from one of the major firms a number of years back. He was convinced it was because he was gay. The truth was he was a terrible lawyer.
Yeah that's kind of what I was getting at.
In other news, the Boy Scouts announced there will be a special one-time merit badge for any scout who assists in unlocking the world's largest closet.
Quote from: Caliga on March 03, 2014, 07:50:23 PM
Interesting, my uncle refused to hire a tranny to be a principal in his school district in NJ a while back. Wonder if it was before their discrimination laws, or if he figured out some other way to avoid hiring him?
I had to google tranny to see what it means.
Apparently it means transvestite, and it can be homosexual, transsexual, bisexual, and heterosexual.
Now I have to google all those terms.
Quote from: Siege on March 04, 2014, 02:04:32 PM
Quote from: Caliga on March 03, 2014, 07:50:23 PM
Interesting, my uncle refused to hire a tranny to be a principal in his school district in NJ a while back. Wonder if it was before their discrimination laws, or if he figured out some other way to avoid hiring him?
I had to google tranny to see what it means.
Apparently it means transvestite, and it can be homosexual, transsexual, bisexual, and heterosexual.
Now I have to google all those terms.
Use google image search.
Quote from: crazy canuck on March 03, 2014, 03:18:02 PM
Is banning gay troup leaders contrary to US human rights laws (Fed or State)?
Most of the Fed laws are Civil Rights era legislation (some later for crips) back when gays were still considered criminal monsters anyway so they don't cover sexual orientation. Some States are more protective. But without putting myself out as an expert (although the motherfucking 8 hour anti-discrimination training class I have to attend every year as a Federal manager might make me more informed than I want) I think most of these laws, State or Federal, tend to focus on discrimination in employment, public accommodations etc. Being a troop leader is not a job and it's essentially a volunteer position in a private organization. It probably doesn't fall under the purview of these laws which is why even in liberal States that have extended civil rights protections to gays I don't believe there's any cases of the scouts being
forced to accept gay troop leaders.
Quote from: crazy canuck on March 04, 2014, 01:36:14 PMThere was a gay fellow who was terminated from one of the major firms a number of years back. He was convinced it was because he was gay. The truth was he was a terrible lawyer. The other thing he didnt know is the guy who fired him was also gay. At least the terminated fellow sure carried on like he didnt know his boss was gay as he wrote a number of scathing emails accusing his boss of being homophobic.
Friend of mine who is a New Orleans lawyer at one of the top firms down there told me they hired a guy fresh out of Tulane's law school that was basically an ideal candidate, was near the top of his class, etc etc. Interviewed very strongly, as well. His first day on the job (and this was like in 1991, not recently), the fresh-faced, well groomed guy from the interview was gone. Instead a dude (appropriately dressed in a suit, at least) shows up with a green mohawk and 3-4 different piercings visible on his head (ears, lip etc.) I'm not sure anyone truly knew what to do right at first, so he made it to lunch, when he went opened up a thing of raw ground beef, dumped some salt on it and started eating it at his desk.
He was gone before end of business. :D
Quote from: Ed Anger on March 04, 2014, 02:08:12 PM
Quote from: Siege on March 04, 2014, 02:04:32 PM
Quote from: Caliga on March 03, 2014, 07:50:23 PM
Interesting, my uncle refused to hire a tranny to be a principal in his school district in NJ a while back. Wonder if it was before their discrimination laws, or if he figured out some other way to avoid hiring him?
I had to google tranny to see what it means.
Apparently it means transvestite, and it can be homosexual, transsexual, bisexual, and heterosexual.
Now I have to google all those terms.
Use google image search.
I work with a guy who is a bit strange. Very religious; lives up in the hills, almost off the grid;barely literate; the wife home schools his kids; not technology savvy at all. Very nice guy but nearly Amish, or even more out there.
He wanted to buy a post hole digger, so he logged onto his PC and googled it; he entered the wrong thing though and googled post hole pounder. He was rather traumatized by the image results.
Quote from: sbr on March 04, 2014, 02:16:55 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on March 04, 2014, 02:08:12 PM
Quote from: Siege on March 04, 2014, 02:04:32 PM
Quote from: Caliga on March 03, 2014, 07:50:23 PM
Interesting, my uncle refused to hire a tranny to be a principal in his school district in NJ a while back. Wonder if it was before their discrimination laws, or if he figured out some other way to avoid hiring him?
I had to google tranny to see what it means.
Apparently it means transvestite, and it can be homosexual, transsexual, bisexual, and heterosexual.
Now I have to google all those terms.
Use google image search.
I work with a guy who is a bit strange. Very religious; lives up in the hills, almost off the grid;barely literate; the wife home schools his kids; not technology savvy at all. Very nice guy but nearly Amish, or even more out there.
He wanted to buy a post hole digger, so he logged onto his PC and googled it; he entered the wrong thing though and googled post hole pounder. He was rather traumatized by the image results.
Tease. I don't have safe search on and I got nothing but farming equipment and bowling balls...
Quote from: garbon on March 04, 2014, 02:19:28 PM
Tease. I don't have safe search on and I got nothing but farming equipment and bowling balls...
Is that code for something? :hmm:
Quote from: crazy canuck on March 04, 2014, 02:20:26 PM
Quote from: garbon on March 04, 2014, 02:19:28 PM
Tease. I don't have safe search on and I got nothing but farming equipment and bowling balls...
Is that code for something? :hmm:
In this case, code for disappointment. -_-
Quote from: sbr on March 04, 2014, 02:16:55 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on March 04, 2014, 02:08:12 PM
Quote from: Siege on March 04, 2014, 02:04:32 PM
Quote from: Caliga on March 03, 2014, 07:50:23 PM
Interesting, my uncle refused to hire a tranny to be a principal in his school district in NJ a while back. Wonder if it was before their discrimination laws, or if he figured out some other way to avoid hiring him?
I had to google tranny to see what it means.
Apparently it means transvestite, and it can be homosexual, transsexual, bisexual, and heterosexual.
Now I have to google all those terms.
Use google image search.
I work with a guy who is a bit strange. Very religious; lives up in the hills, almost off the grid;barely literate; the wife home schools his kids; not technology savvy at all. Very nice guy but nearly Amish, or even more out there.
He wanted to buy a post hole digger, so he logged onto his PC and googled it; he entered the wrong thing though and googled post hole pounder. He was rather traumatized by the image results.
... and the next day he needed a corn-holer. :D
Quote from: Malthus on March 04, 2014, 02:31:08 PM
Quote from: sbr on March 04, 2014, 02:16:55 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on March 04, 2014, 02:08:12 PM
Quote from: Siege on March 04, 2014, 02:04:32 PM
Quote from: Caliga on March 03, 2014, 07:50:23 PM
Interesting, my uncle refused to hire a tranny to be a principal in his school district in NJ a while back. Wonder if it was before their discrimination laws, or if he figured out some other way to avoid hiring him?
I had to google tranny to see what it means.
Apparently it means transvestite, and it can be homosexual, transsexual, bisexual, and heterosexual.
Now I have to google all those terms.
Use google image search.
I work with a guy who is a bit strange. Very religious; lives up in the hills, almost off the grid;barely literate; the wife home schools his kids; not technology savvy at all. Very nice guy but nearly Amish, or even more out there.
He wanted to buy a post hole digger, so he logged onto his PC and googled it; he entered the wrong thing though and googled post hole pounder. He was rather traumatized by the image results.
... and the next day he needed a corn-holer. :D
Now that one was odd. A man in bunny ears wearing diapers while holding a stuffed bear.
Quote from: garbon on March 04, 2014, 02:19:28 PM
Quote from: sbr on March 04, 2014, 02:16:55 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on March 04, 2014, 02:08:12 PM
Quote from: Siege on March 04, 2014, 02:04:32 PM
Quote from: Caliga on March 03, 2014, 07:50:23 PM
Interesting, my uncle refused to hire a tranny to be a principal in his school district in NJ a while back. Wonder if it was before their discrimination laws, or if he figured out some other way to avoid hiring him?
I had to google tranny to see what it means.
Apparently it means transvestite, and it can be homosexual, transsexual, bisexual, and heterosexual.
Now I have to google all those terms.
Use google image search.
I work with a guy who is a bit strange. Very religious; lives up in the hills, almost off the grid;barely literate; the wife home schools his kids; not technology savvy at all. Very nice guy but nearly Amish, or even more out there.
He wanted to buy a post hole digger, so he logged onto his PC and googled it; he entered the wrong thing though and googled post hole pounder. He was rather traumatized by the image results.
Tease. I don't have safe search on and I got nothing but farming equipment and bowling balls...
The ones I get are all big, long, hard and red.
http://ruralaspirations.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/pounder.jpg
http://news.yahoo.com/boy-scouts-shutdown-troop-for-refusing-to-banish-gay-scoutmaster-171244503.html
QuoteBoy Scouts shutdown troop for refusing to banish gay scoutmaster
Minister of sponsor church says boys will continue meeting regardless
The Boy Scouts of America, one of the country's largest and oldest youth organizations, has shutdown a Seattle troop and pack for refusing to remove an openly homosexual scoutmaster.
In a letter sent last week from BSA attorney Steven P. McGowan to Seattle attorney Peter J. Mullenix, the Scouts fault Rainier Beach United Methodist Church for allowing Geoff McGrath to serve in violation of their policy that "does not allow open or avowed homosexuals to serve as volunteer adult leaders."
The chapter is being closed "as a result of this refusal to comply with the policies, guidelines, rules and regulations of the Boy Scouts of America," according to the letter. It goes on to say Troop 98 may "no longer use the Scouting program or any of its registered marks or brands."
However, Rev. Monica Corsaro, minister of the Seattle troop's host church, told Yahoo News on Monday that the 15 Cub Scouts and Boy Scouts will meet this week as though nothing has changed. But will they wear their uniforms?
"Those boys paid for those uniforms," Corsaro said. "It will not be me telling them to not wear their uniforms."
McGrath, 49, made headlines last month when BSA leadership said they learned through a news story that he was gay. The National Council immediately removed McGrath from its rolls for "deliberately injecting" his sexuality into the job. McGrath maintains the organization had known all along about his open support of gay rights.
Last May, the Scouts broke 103 years of tradition when it decided to allow openly gay members into its ranks. The historic change, however, did not include accepting gay scout leaders. McGrath is believed to be first leader to lose his position since last year's policy change.
Corsaro defied the BSA's request to remove McGrath.
"Based on our religious principles, we will continue to act as an autonomous church that does not discriminate," said Rev. Corsaro, according to a press release from Scouts for Equality, a national advocacy organization.
The church and McGrath are represented by the same Seattle attorney. On Monday, Corsaro told Yahoo News that they are weighing their legal options on how to proceed.
Zach Wahls, executive director of Scouts for Equality, called the move to revoke the troops' charter startling.
"The Boy Scouts' decisions only serve to hurt a group of boys who need the values and leadership of someone like Scoutmaster McGrath," Wahls wrote in a statement. "Unfortunately, the BSA's decision calls into question its commitment to leadership and values by perpetuating an outmoded policy rooted in fear and discrimination. History will show that today's announcement is a self-inflicted wound."
The BSA's letter stated arrangements have been made to allow members of Troop 98 to transfer to another unit.
McGrath, according to Scouts for Equality, was disappointed by the Scouts' action to shutter the troop.
"Pastor Corsaro specifically sought out someone with my Scouting background to help get these units off the ground, and her church is now being told to violate their religious convictions," McGrath said in a statement. "It's unconscionable and irreverent."
Wow what a bunch of d-bags. They cannot just silently wink and nod about that?
Quote from: Valmy on April 21, 2014, 01:49:26 PM
Wow what a bunch of d-bags. They cannot just silently wink and nod about that?
;) :yes:
Will gays banish boy scouts ? :unsure: