Looked at "Loveless" at the store today. Looked interesting. Any opinions?
No. Can't say as I have one. After seeing Wanted I was vaguely interested in getting the trade paperback. About a cabal of supervillains who rule the world.
Quote from: Syt on March 13, 2009, 10:40:20 AM
Looked at "Loveless" at the store today. Looked interesting. Any opinions?
Good Vertigo Title. I read the first trade I think. only. But enjoyed it. Thanks for reminding me of it.
in other weird news. I liked Battle For The Cowl #1.
Also the new R.E.B.E.L.s title is really fun. I heart Vril Dox (Brainiac 2 lol)
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on March 13, 2009, 09:55:02 PM
No. Can't say as I have one. After seeing Wanted I was vaguely interested in getting the trade paperback. About a cabal of supervillains who rule the world.
Dunno, I found Wanted pretty lame and puerile, TBH (the comic, after reading it I didn't feel like watching the movie, even if it is markedly different).
Yeah, but it might be something to kill a few minutes with.
What is Loveless?
I was gently approaching the 121-pages long thread about graphic novels on the old board, hoping to find interesting suggestions, when it suddenly disappeared. :(
Anyone of the previous thread contributors care to make a list of the most interesting titles appeared in the disappeared thread? I will be grateful :)
Authors I like:
Miller
Moore
Watterson
Carl Barks
Schultz
Moebius
Gary Larson
(Larson, Watterson and Schultz cannot really qualify for the "Graphic novel writer" guild, but I like their work a lot)
L.
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Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on March 13, 2009, 09:55:02 PM
No. Can't say as I have one. After seeing Wanted I was vaguely interested in getting the trade paperback. About a cabal of supervillains who rule the world.
Dunno, I found Wanted pretty lame and puerile, TBH (the comic, after reading it I didn't feel like watching the movie, even if it is markedly different).
I quite liked "Wanted" the comic. it was fun, hip and well drawn. But it's not groundbreaking or unique at all. It's just another riff on Authority/Ultimate/Astro City dark, violent, full of sex & swearing kind of comics
I bought Watchmen comic after seeing the movie.
I think it's the first comic I've purchased in the last 15 years.
In that commercial for X-Men Origins, Logan is fighting in the Union Army. I don't remember that, I thought in Origins the first war he fought in was WWI. Also, he's Canadian, wtf?
Quote from: jimmy olsen on March 21, 2009, 08:42:52 PM
In that commercial for X-Men Origins, Logan is fighting in the Union Army. I don't remember that, I thought in Origins the first war he fought in was WWI. Also, he's Canadian, wtf?
Hollywood loves to Americanize the characters it messes with.
The movie characters are radically different from the comic characters. Moreover, the US Civil War is distinctive, whereas most Americans are too stupid to tell the Great War from World War II.
In the comics, Logan wasn't born until the Civil War was long over.
Quote from: Neil on March 21, 2009, 08:51:59 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on March 21, 2009, 08:42:52 PM
In that commercial for X-Men Origins, Logan is fighting in the Union Army. I don't remember that, I thought in Origins the first war he fought in was WWI. Also, he's Canadian, wtf?
Hollywood loves to Americanize the characters it messes with.
The movie characters are radically different from the comic characters. Moreover, the US Civil War is distinctive, whereas most Americans are too stupid to tell the Great War from World War II.
In the comics, Logan wasn't born until the Civil War was long over.
Yeah, wasn't he born in the 1880s in British Columbia?
I suppose another reason may be that the Civil War is viewed as a more moral war. I'll note the other shot of him fighting shows him in WWII.
Quote from: Barrister on March 16, 2009, 01:51:43 PM
I bought Watchmen comic after seeing the movie.
I think it's the first comic I've purchased in the last 15 years.
I read it last year after finding out they were making a movie. Afterwards I couldn't believe something like it had stayed off my radar for so long.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on March 21, 2009, 08:55:18 PM
Yeah, wasn't he born in the 1880s in British Columbia?
Somewhere in the mountains of Western Canada. He's ethnic Albertan.
Quote from: Neil on March 21, 2009, 09:04:55 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on March 21, 2009, 08:55:18 PM
Yeah, wasn't he born in the 1880s in British Columbia?
Somewhere in the mountains of Western Canada. He's ethnic Albertan.
Alberta didn't even exist yet. :D
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Quote from: jimmy olsen on March 21, 2009, 08:55:18 PM
Yeah, wasn't he born in the 1880s in British Columbia?
Somewhere in the mountains of Western Canada. He's ethnic Albertan.
Alberta didn't even exist yet. :D
What's your point?
Quote from: Neil on March 21, 2009, 09:04:55 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on March 21, 2009, 08:55:18 PM
Yeah, wasn't he born in the 1880s in British Columbia?
Somewhere in the mountains of Western Canada. He's ethnic Albertan.
According to the movie he is from Alkali Lake, BC. :mellow:
Quote from: Neil on March 21, 2009, 09:04:55 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on March 21, 2009, 08:55:18 PM
Yeah, wasn't he born in the 1880s in British Columbia?
Somewhere in the mountains of Western Canada. He's ethnic Albertan.
:D
Charlie Brown in the style of Frank Miller
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lotta work for Old chrome dome there.
:lol:
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Next week the final issue of 100 Bullets comes out. Can't wait for the hopefully furious ending.
Quote from: syk on April 08, 2009, 05:03:34 AM
Next week the final issue of 100 Bullets comes out. Can't wait for the hopefully furious ending.
me too. Awesome series.
A Jonah Hex movie is in the works! :w00t:
http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=24506
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Next week the final issue of 100 Bullets comes out. Can't wait for the hopefully furious ending.
Next week the next issue of Walking Dead comes out. :mmm:
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I have that book. :(
Is it just me or would a graphic novel adaptation of My Name is Red be the coolest thing ever?
What a Timmay moment. "Don't get gay!"
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:lmfao: great panel.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on March 21, 2009, 08:42:52 PM
In that commercial for X-Men Origins, Logan is fighting in the Union Army. I don't remember that, I thought in Origins the first war he fought in was WWI. Also, he's Canadian, wtf?
Yeah, I'm thinking the movie is very loosely based on the comic (which I liked :o )
Currently rereading all the the Infinite Crisis and countdowns to Infinite Crisis and post Infinite Crisis books. I really like this story line. Although, I was reading Omac Project and saw that there was a whole shebang with Batman and Superman in the Sacrifice story which I really want to read now! I just finished reading all 52 volumes (:wub:) and now I am actually reading Infinite Crisis.
Ide stop using Korea's screen name.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on April 10, 2009, 12:46:23 PM
Ide stop using Korea's screen name.
Gah, this IS me! Are you surprised that I read comics?
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Quote from: jimmy olsen on April 10, 2009, 12:46:23 PM
Ide stop using Korea's screen name.
Gah, this IS me! Are you surprised that I read comics?
A little.
Why? Korea is cool.
See?!
Kay :D
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Quote from: jimmy olsen on April 10, 2009, 12:46:23 PM
Ide stop using Korea's screen name.
Gah, this IS me! Are you surprised that I read comics?
A little.
Why? Korea is cool.
See?!
Kay :D
:D
Okay, just read Day of Vengeance and I must say that I love it. Magic = awesome
Hunter bought me Batman RIP and I thought it was pretty cool but man I do not fucking get the last half of that book. Can anyone explain? Grant Morrison seems like he can be very disjointed at times.
I've also picked up issue 1 and 2 of Final Crisis. It is okay I think.
I'm rereading JL: A New Beginning and I was reading I can't believe it's not the Justice League. I am in love with Kevin Maguire's ability to draw facial expressions!
So, Dr. Manhattan vs. Red Son Superman, who wins?
Finished up Exiles 1-4. Very good.
Read the latest Deadpool. I like Deadpool.
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on May 13, 2009, 03:51:58 PM
Finished up Exiles 1-4. Very good.
Read the latest Deadpool. I like Deadpool.
Who doesn't like Deadpool?
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Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on May 13, 2009, 03:51:58 PM
Finished up Exiles 1-4. Very good.
Read the latest Deadpool. I like Deadpool.
Who doesn't like Deadpool?
I can only take him in small doses.
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Finished up Exiles 1-4. Very good.
Read the latest Deadpool. I like Deadpool.
Who doesn't like Deadpool?
I like Deadpool.
Read #61 of The Walking Dead.
Seriously fucked up episode. :mellow:
Finally read Wanted.
Meh.
Quote from: Scipio on May 20, 2009, 06:31:33 PM
Finally read Wanted.
Meh.
Yep. Hack writer creates hack work.
Quote from: Syt on May 20, 2009, 01:40:30 PM
Read #61 of The Walking Dead.
Seriously fucked up episode. :mellow:
Kirkman is quite unafraid to push any and all buttons available to him, it seems. I heartily approve of the purge of more characters, especially in such a clever manner. It's not often that a book explores the effects that such catastrophes would have on a child's psychology.
Pretty sweet list, though I'd flip # 1 & 2 and move Ozymandias into the top 5. How the hell can he be #21?
http://uk.comics.ign.com/top-100-villains/index.html
Quote from: jimmy olsen on May 26, 2009, 12:40:05 PM
Pretty sweet list, though I'd flip # 1 & 2 and move Ozymandias into the top 5. How the hell can he be #21?
http://uk.comics.ign.com/top-100-villains/index.html
Magneto is a better villain than the Joker.
As for Veidt, you can only move him up so far. I'd put him ahead of of Bullseye, Kingpin, Mystique, Juggernaut and maybe Catwoman. I just have a hard time seeing Catwoman as an iconic villain, since she's never been much of a 'bad guy'. I mean, a cat-burglar is hard to put in the same class as guys who are trying to take over the world. Apart from that, all of the villains above him are recurring icons.
Another thing that the list makes me think of is how Batman's Rogues Gallery is better than Superman's by a fair margin, but Wonder Woman's is virtually non-existant. I mean Circe? Cheetah?
And Thanos at #47? :rolleyes:
Quote from: jimmy olsen on May 26, 2009, 12:40:05 PM
Pretty sweet list, though I'd flip # 1 & 2 and move Ozymandias into the top 5. How the hell can he be #21?
http://uk.comics.ign.com/top-100-villains/index.html
I wouldn't put Magneto in the top 5. Maybe not even the top 10. He just isn't evil enough really, plus he's been a good guy on occasion. I think Darkseid is also rated too low. When I think top villains, I think of those consistently evil through the years. I'll definately agree with Doom, Luthor and The Joker in the top 5. Galactus bothers me as well. He isn't evil really, he just is. We're not evil for eating things to keep us alive, why is he? What difference does it make if there were a bunch of fleas or some such on the cow before it was slaughtered and made into my delicious hamburger or steak?
Yeah, but Neil, Veidt actually wins.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on May 26, 2009, 02:42:29 PM
Yeah, but Neil, Veidt actually wins.
Sure he does. But that doesn't make him the greatest. He had a single masterful performance, but the top villains have been doing it day in and day out for decades.
Quote from: Judas Iscariot on May 26, 2009, 02:42:21 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on May 26, 2009, 12:40:05 PM
Pretty sweet list, though I'd flip # 1 & 2 and move Ozymandias into the top 5. How the hell can he be #21?
http://uk.comics.ign.com/top-100-villains/index.html
I wouldn't put Magneto in the top 5. Maybe not even the top 10. He just isn't evil enough really, plus he's been a good guy on occasion. I think Darkseid is also rated too low. When I think top villains, I think of those consistently evil through the years. I'll definately agree with Doom, Luthor and The Joker in the top 5. Galactus bothers me as well. He isn't evil really, he just is. We're not evil for eating things to keep us alive, why is he? What difference does it make if there were a bunch of fleas or some such on the cow before it was slaughtered and made into my delicious hamburger or steak?
Eating the Earth is considered inherently villainous. Killing billions of sophonts is considered villainous, even if the being doing the killing is as far beyond humans as we are beyond bacteria. He opposes the heroes, and is thus a villain. Still, Galactus seems out of place in the top 5, I agree. Darkseid would be a better rounding out.
As for Magneto, he's clearly a top villain. Just because he turned good for a while is no barrier to that. In fact, it's his status as a top villain with a sympathetic backstory that has him shooting between good and evil. Nevertheless, tearing out Wolverine's adamantium was one of the most glorious things ever to happen. Fuck Wolverine.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on May 26, 2009, 02:42:29 PM
Yeah, but Neil, Veidt actually wins.
Does he though? I mean by the end, there isn't really indication that his despicable plan will actually have the effects he desires. Sure it stopped obliteration that particular moment but that's hardly everlasting peace.
Quote from: garbon on May 26, 2009, 03:31:53 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on May 26, 2009, 02:42:29 PM
Yeah, but Neil, Veidt actually wins.
Does he though? I mean by the end, there isn't really indication that his despicable plan will actually have the effects he desires. Sure it stopped obliteration that particular moment but that's hardly everlasting peace.
Well, I meant that his villainous plot succeeded. He killed millions of people.
I would move Magneto down a couple. Thanos should be top 20. Monghul is a freaking Thanos copyright fudge fer gawd's sake. weak.
and No Catwoman nor Amanda Waller are NOT Villains in the strictest sense. Which is what you want in a top 100.
Quote from: BuddhaRhubarb on May 26, 2009, 08:18:50 PM
I would move Magneto down a couple. Thanos should be top 20. Monghul is a freaking Thanos copyright fudge fer gawd's sake. weak.
and No Catwoman nor Amanda Waller are NOT Villains in the strictest sense. Which is what you want in a top 100.
Yeah, but they're kinda reaching for some of the later ones. MODOK? Clayface? Sandman? The Parasite? Sebastian Shaw?
I think Magneto is a solid #1.
Quote from: Neil on May 26, 2009, 08:29:30 PM
Quote from: BuddhaRhubarb on May 26, 2009, 08:18:50 PM
I would move Magneto down a couple. Thanos should be top 20. Monghul is a freaking Thanos copyright fudge fer gawd's sake. weak.
and No Catwoman nor Amanda Waller are NOT Villains in the strictest sense. Which is what you want in a top 100.
Yeah, but they're kinda reaching for some of the later ones. MODOK? Clayface? Sandman? The Parasite? Sebastian Shaw?
I think Magneto is a solid #1.
I'm more of a Doom guy, but Magneto is awesome.
Pfft Solomon Grundy should be on the list.
Cluemaster.
Quote from: katmai on May 27, 2009, 12:35:04 AM
Pfft Solomon Grundy should be on the list.
he wasn't? Lame.
Read the new Morrison/Quitely Batman & Robin starring Dick & Damian as the Dynamic duo. Refreshing and fun. Hope they keep it up, till Bruce eventually returns from the dead in a bout a year or so.
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"The movement is growing," said Ben Goldman, a real-life superhero historian. Goldman, along with Chaim "Life" Lazaros and David "Civitron" Civitarese, runs the New York-based Web site Superheroes Anonymous as part of an initiative dedicated to organizing and making alliances with superhero groups.
According to Goldman, who goes by the moniker Cameraman because of his prowess in documenting the movement, economic troubles (http://topics.cnn.com/topics/Economic_Issues) are spawning real life superheroes.
"A lot of them have gone through a sort of existential crisis and have had to discover who they are," Goldman said. People are starting to put value in what they can do rather than what they have, he said. "They realize that money is fleeting, it's in fact imaginary."
Estimates from the few groups that keep tabs put the worldwide total of real-life superheroes between 250 and 300. Goldman said the numbers were around 200 just last summer. Where to find real-life superheroesThere is a growing diaspora of superheroes worldwide. Here are a few resources.
World Superhero Registry: (http://www.worldsuperheroregistry.com/) A virtual who's who of the larger real-life superhero community, including who's active and who's not.
Superheroes Anonymous: (http://superheroesanonymous.com/) For matching up heroes with the appropriate villainous arch nemesis
ReallifeSuperheroes.org: (http://www.reallifesuperheroes.org/index.html) A New York-based initiative to medicate and euthanize would be caped avengers
RLSH-manual.com: (https://rlsh-manual.com/WELCOME.html) So, you want to be a real-life superhero? Need a uniform, you say? Mr. Ravenblade, laid off after a stint with a huge computer technology corporation, found inspiration for his new avocation a few years ago from an early morning incident in Walla Walla, Washington.
"I literally stepped into a woman's attempted rape/mugging," Mr. Ravenblade said. While details were lost in the fog of the fight, he remembers this much: "I did what I could," he said, adding that he stopped the crime and broke no laws. "And I realized after doing what I did, that people don't really look after people."
Public response to real-life superheroes has been mixed, according to Mr. Xtreme, who founded the Xtreme Justice League in San Diego, California.
"Sometimes it's been really positive with people saying, 'Woohoo, the superheroes are here,' and then the usual barrage, saying 'Oh, these guys are losers.' Other times people will look kind of freaked out, and then sometimes people just don't know what to think about us."
Like Peter Parker kept his Spider-Man identity from his editor boss, Mr. Extreme and Mr. Ravenblade have asked CNN editors to keep their identities secret.
The current superhero movement started a few years ago on MySpace, as people interested in comics and cool caped crusaders joined forces, Goldman said. It goes beyond the Guardian Angel (http://topics.cnn.com/topics/The_Alliance_of_Guardian_Angels) citizen patrols of the early 1980s, as the real-life superheroes of today apply themselves to a broadly defined ethos of simply doing good works. (https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi2.cdn.turner.com%2Fcnn%2F.element%2Fimg%2F2.0%2Fmosaic%2Ftabs%2Fvideo.gif&hash=f2f1a8d7bed0de3e32bfc0557c3998fd2f1948bf) Watch Crimson Fist help the homeless in Atlanta » (http://www.cnn.com/2009/LIVING/06/04/real.life.superheroes/index.html?iref=mpstoryview#cnnSTCVideo)
Chris Pollak, 24, of Brooklyn, New York, can attest to the appeal. "A lot more people are either following it or wanting to go out and do it," Pollack, who goes by the name Dark Guardian, said. By "do it," he means patrol the harrowing streets late at night.
"A lot of kids say they're real-life superheroes [on MySpace]," Mr. Ravenblade said. "But what are you doing? Being in front of a computer is not helping anybody."
Comic book legend Stan Lee, the brain behind heroes such as Spider-Man and the X-Men, said in his comic books (http://topics.cnn.com/topics/Graphic_Novels_and_Comics) doing good -- and availing one's self -- was indeed the calling card for superheroes.
"If somebody is committing a crime, if somebody is hurting some innocent person, that's when the superhero has to take over." (https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi2.cdn.turner.com%2Fcnn%2F.element%2Fimg%2F2.0%2Fmosaic%2Ftabs%2Fphotos.gif&hash=c7c9d3d3f0b1b15354a3d461c4aeedf29d3b25b1) See a photo gallery of some real-life superheroes » (http://www.cnn.com/2009/LIVING/06/04/real.life.superheroes/index.html?iref=mpstoryview#cnnSTCPhoto)
"I think it's a good thing that people are eager enough to want to help their community. They think to do it is to emulate the superheroes," Lee (http://topics.cnn.com/topics/Stan_Lee) said. "Now if they had said they had super powers [that would be another thing]."
Without super powers, real life superheroes confess to a mere-mortal workload, including helping the homeless, handing out fliers in high-crime areas and patrolling areas known for drug-dealing.
Mr. Ravenblade said he and some of his superfriends would soon be trying to organize a Walk for Babies fundraiser in Portland, Oregon.
"We work with charities that help children," he said. "We think a lot of crimes happen because of people who didn't get a lot of love when they were younger. We do what we can to help that there."
"Homeless outreach is the main thing I like to do," said Chaim "Life" Lazaros, of Superheroes Anonymous. "We give out food, water, vitamins, toothbrushes. A lot of homeless people in my area know me, and they tell us about what they need. One homeless guy said 'I need a couple pair of clean underwear.'"
For Christmas, Lazaros said his group raised $700 in gifts and brought them to kids at St. Mary's Children's Hospital in New York. "They were so excited to see real-life superheroes," Lazaros said.
Many of the real-life superheroes even initiate citizen's arrests, but what's legal varies by state. And in North Carolina citizen's arrests are illegal. Real-life superheroes who grab a suspected villain may find themselves under a specter of trouble.
"Not a good idea," said Katy Parker, legal director for the ACLU of North Carolina. "Seeing as how there's no citizen's arrest statute [in the state], people who do this are running a serious risk of getting arrested for kidnapping, and being liable for false imprisonment."
"Vigilantism is never a good thing," said Bernard Gonzales, public information officer for the Chula Vista, California, Police Department. He's had some interactions with real-life superheroes. "The very best thing a private citizen can do is be a good witness."
Mr. Ravenblade said he's just that.
"If you're a real-life superhero you follow the law. If you catch somebody you can't just tie them up and leave them for the cops, that's for the comics. You have to wait for the cops and give them a statement," Mr. Ravenblade said.
While citizens helping out in the community is encouraged, Gonzales said the costumes can go.
"Where these people are out in public, and there's children around and everything, and these people are not revealing their identities, it's not a safe thing."
But the costumes go with the gig, right down to the do-it-yourself approach to good deeds, including, apparently, recycling. (https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.cdn.turner.com%2Fcnn%2F.element%2Fimg%2F2.0%2Fcontent%2Fads%2Fadvertisement.gif&hash=8280100620d1413daad86b428468a93a03964f0b) "The costume I have is simple," said Mr. Xtreme. "I made it myself. I had a graphic designer design it for me and just took it down to the swap meet and had somebody imprint it on for me." "The mask," an old bullfighter's piece, "I got from Tijuana." [/i]
Quote from: BuddhaRhubarb on June 04, 2009, 12:36:17 PM
Read the new Morrison/Quitely Batman & Robin starring Dick & Damian as the Dynamic duo. Refreshing and fun. Hope they keep it up, till Bruce eventually returns from the dead in a bout a year or so.
I wonder what they're going to do with Tim Drake.
Shit Wags, can't you fix the formatting on that?
I work for a living Tim. Libraries are much more exciting places than you could possibly imagine. You wanna drive up here and set up the new UPS while doing 20 other fucking things without air conditioning in this concrete fucking tomb I'll be more than fucking happy to edit and format and make a pretty presentation for you.
Top 15 Worst Heroes Becoming Villains
This guy's awesome :lmfao:
http://www.thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/linkara/at4w/5906-top15worst
Quote from: jimmy olsen on June 06, 2009, 10:20:58 PM
Top 15 Worst Heroes Becoming Villains
This guy's awesome :lmfao:
http://www.thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/linkara/at4w/5906-top15worst
It's why I don't really read superhero comics - it's way too confusing and too many mess ups. Might as well start watching pro wrestling again. :P
(Though I love Ennis' Punisher :wub: )
Quote from: Neil on June 04, 2009, 02:33:54 PM
Quote from: BuddhaRhubarb on June 04, 2009, 12:36:17 PM
Read the new Morrison/Quitely Batman & Robin starring Dick & Damian as the Dynamic duo. Refreshing and fun. Hope they keep it up, till Bruce eventually returns from the dead in a bout a year or so.
I wonder what they're going to do with Tim Drake.
That's what I wanna know. Will he take on the Red Robin mantle... or maybe he'll be the new Nightwing, (my preference) until Bruce comes back in a year or less.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on June 06, 2009, 10:20:58 PM
Top 15 Worst Heroes Becoming Villains
This guy's awesome :lmfao:
http://www.thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/linkara/at4w/5906-top15worst
I have a lot of sympathy for the Parallax heel turn, despite it's out-of-left-fieldedness, because at least everything about it was epic. Mary Marvel and Batgirl were handled terribly, as are most things at DC these days.
Quote from: BuddhaRhubarb on June 07, 2009, 01:25:49 PM
Quote from: Neil on June 04, 2009, 02:33:54 PM
Quote from: BuddhaRhubarb on June 04, 2009, 12:36:17 PM
Read the new Morrison/Quitely Batman & Robin starring Dick & Damian as the Dynamic duo. Refreshing and fun. Hope they keep it up, till Bruce eventually returns from the dead in a bout a year or so.
I wonder what they're going to do with Tim Drake.
That's what I wanna know. Will he take on the Red Robin mantle... or maybe he'll be the new Nightwing, (my preference) until Bruce comes back in a year or less.
I know that Dick always had priority, but I think that Tim would have made a better Batman.
Still, I wonder if they'll be able to resist the temptation to bring back Bruce for a whole year. You know who else they should bring back? Ted Kord, Max Lord and the Dibnys.
I've been watching some of his other videos, this guy is brilliant. :lmfao:
http://www.thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/linkara/at4w
Guy is right about a lot of things. Countdown sucked and so did Final Crisis. Is that even done yet?
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on June 07, 2009, 09:01:33 PM
Guy is right about a lot of things. Countdown sucked and so did Final Crisis. Is that even done yet?
Countdown featured the Elongated Man, but apart from that was a terrible travesty.
Really, DC has been going the wrong way for a number of years now.
Yeah it did. He wondered around aimlessly trying to find himself or some stupid shit. His death wasn't mercy just for him.
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on June 07, 2009, 09:15:36 PM
Yeah it did. He wondered around aimlessly trying to find himself or some stupid shit. His death wasn't mercy just for him.
The only thing that would be merciful would be the murder of the man who thought that Identity Crisis was a good idea. Or that evil Max Lord was a good idea.
ya Batgirl/Mary Marvel storylines were among the most heinous of all the stupid things DC has done in recent years. I have personally deleted all memory of those lines of continuity.
Hilarious video. DC needs to put that guy in charge.
Wow. That video makes me glad I haven't bought any comics in a long time. I was really thinking of grabbing up a few soon as well. Damn. Are there any good superhero comics still out there? My buddy is letting me borro his copies of The Living Dead or whatever the zombie one is ya'll seem to love so much. I'm not a huge zombie fan, but good stuff is good stuff.
:lol: I've watched just about all the videos, almost every one is brilliant, I especially liked Amazons Attack, Captain Planet #3, US1 and Sultry Teenage Super Foxes.
Quote from: Judas Iscariot on June 08, 2009, 07:07:46 PM
Are there any good superhero comics still out there?
Irredeemable. :)
It's definitely not a traditional "guy-in-tights-flies-around-punches-people" comic. Rather adult in subject-matter, from the outset :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irredeemable
Nice. I think I read about this briefly in an issue of Wizard I picked up a couple months ago, my only other source of comics info other than Languish. Alas, they aren't as brutally honest as you people are, and have a tendency to play up everything as awesome and amazing that's occuring.
oh yeah gotta read that. Irredeemable is clever and fun.
Also good oddball superhero take is "Incognito"
Soon I Shall be Invincible is a novel about super heroes and is pretty good.
That looks pretty cool.
My Open Letter to Marvel Comics or Enterfuckingtainment or whatever they are calling themselves:
AheM... ummm Here's an idea: stop yanking my chain with fake Jean Greys already. What would be cool is if Jean could come back as Phoenix and actually get to have time as a superhero instead of Galactically Powered Mutant/Threat to The Universe... Just an in control Phoenix for I dunno at least a few years before some crossover event thing where she dies again. Make her like Ms. Marvel in recent years. Give her some A game. Maybe a series? Miniseries.
So many great characters going to waste out there. I also think The Creeper over at DC has never been given a great new slant or anything since Ditko's fun but dated initial incarnation of the character. They've tried many takes on this one, but never quite got it.
What characters do you think are wasted while Wolverine, Spidey, Batman, Superman and all the other slutty many team types hog all the spotlight?
Are you a Brother Voodoo Zombie? Well he just became Sorcerer Supreme.
How long before Dr. Strange gets it back ?
*end comic :nerd: transmission......
Haven't they married Cyclops off to the White Queen? Or would a full on Jean Grey return be accompanied by making Emma into a 'she was always evil, and she was just tricking everyone' or a GirlMagneto?
Quote from: Neil on June 11, 2009, 09:45:25 PM
Haven't they married Cyclops off to the White Queen? Or would a full on Jean Grey return be accompanied by making Emma into a 'she was always evil, and she was just tricking everyone' or a GirlMagneto?
Well that is seeming a bit rocky right now as Emma has joined Osborn's Anti-Illuminati.... And all the writers seem to be adding a lot on tension in that relationship... Jean's name dropping a lot! I think Jean should stay away from Cyclops for a while... have all them be single for awhile. Why do we need to have so much soapy stuff. I want a Machiavellian Orwellian whateverian good long story or two from the X-men that is just them putting down powerful other mutants or aliens or something.
Astonishing is the only title that is really doing this. If Jean came back I'd want it done there.
Ultimate X-men is dull these days.
Quote from: BuddhaRhubarb on June 11, 2009, 09:57:05 PM
Quote from: Neil on June 11, 2009, 09:45:25 PM
Haven't they married Cyclops off to the White Queen? Or would a full on Jean Grey return be accompanied by making Emma into a 'she was always evil, and she was just tricking everyone' or a GirlMagneto?
Well that is seeming a bit rocky right now as Emma has joined Osborn's Anti-Illuminati.... And all the writers seem to be adding a lot on tension in that relationship... Jean's name dropping a lot! I think Jean should stay away from Cyclops for a while... have all them be single for awhile. Why do we need to have so much soapy stuff. I want a Machiavellian Orwellian whateverian good long story or two from the X-men that is just them putting down powerful other mutants or aliens or something.
Astonishing is the only title that is really doing this. If Jean came back I'd want it done there.
Ultimate X-men is dull these days.
Anti-Illuminati? I'm behind, I guess.
And yeah, the Ultimate books are pretty much used up at this point. The only Ultimate character I really care about is Hulk.
Ultimate X-Men became exceptionally dull when Kirkman ended his storyline...and the new writer immediately retconned everything in the first issue. Then did a "drugs are bad" arc.
Yeah.
Quote from: BuddhaRhubarb on June 11, 2009, 09:18:22 PM
What characters do you think are wasted while Wolverine, Spidey, Batman, Superman and all the other slutty many team types hog all the spotlight?
Superman can never get to much spotlight. He's the goddamn Superman. :contract:
Quote from: BuddhaRhubarb on June 11, 2009, 09:18:22 PM
What characters do you think are wasted while Wolverine, Spidey, Batman, Superman and all the other slutty many team types hog all the spotlight?
Given that the 'spotlight' these days seems to involve fucking characters up, I'd rather prefer they didn't use them too heavily. Let's do the list of some of my favorite DC characters.
Ted Kord: Killed
Elongated Man: Killed.
Sue Dibny: Raped then killed.
Max Lord: Turned evil then killed.
Mary Marvel: Turned evil, then weird, then evil/weird.
Hal Jordan: Back to being a headliner again. Virtually the only thing going right with DC.
Also, as an aside, let's see what happened to the characters from one of my favorite 90s books, Young Justice.
Robin III: Retired? His job got stolen by that irritating Damian kid. Look for him to turn evil soon.
Superboy: Killed by Superboy Prime in the big damn crossover.
Impulse: Killed after about five minutes as the Flash. Seems to be back.
Wondergirl: Active as the leader of the Teen Titans.
Arrowette: Retired, doing the whole 'regular girl Olympic Gold Medalist' thing.
Secret: Depowered, at a boarding school with Wondergirl and Arrowette.
Empress: Semi-retired. Raising her de-aged parents back to adulthood, made an appearance in an issue of Supergirl.
Lil' Lobo: Out of action. Still a statue 83 thousand years in the future, thanks to Darkseid.
Those kids got throttled.
Young Justice was up with Spyboy as one of the greats of the past 15 years.
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on June 12, 2009, 08:40:48 AM
Young Justice was up with Spyboy as one of the greats of the past 15 years.
It really was. And a pretty good lineup, especially the Original Six.
You know, I wonder what happened to their support characters? Agent Maad, Bonnie King. We did see Snapper Carr in Final Crisis. Even Secret is pretty much off the grid, which is too bad.
I missed Young Justice as I did most late 90's comics... outta the loop for a few years. I should go back and check that out. Also The whole Aquaman debacle/reboot hasn't been settled has it? I want Arthur (Drama Queen of the seven seas) back. That book was going great guns til they killed him and brought in a younger sort of Arthur.
There were some ok storie there but it wasn'r Aquaman.
I was never a big follower of Aquaman. The guy has been the butt of jokes for years now, and every time they fuck with him in an effort to make him more XTREME!, they just make things worse. I liked the character, as I felt he was one of the more practical and realistic of the JLA Big 7, with a sort of regalness and understanding of responsibility that none of them can really match. At his best, he was divinely-mandated royalty, balancing the welfare of an entire world ocean with his responsibility to the world at large. Although Superman might feel that great power makes him responsible for everything and Batman might feel that he has to avenge himself on evil everywhere, Arthur actually is responsible for the welfare of millions. Even Green Lantern, whose responsibility is imposed by the Guardians, or Wonder Woman, who is just an envoy for her mother, can't really appreciate the awesome weight that Aquaman deals with all the time.
The New Teen Titans degenerated quickly into some stupid ass soap opera. All the humor was sucked out to make way for bad drama. Blekth.
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on June 12, 2009, 07:39:10 PM
The New Teen Titans degenerated quickly into some stupid ass soap opera. All the humor was sucked out to make way for bad drama. Blekth.
That's true for wide swathes of DC. They're too focused on EVENTS and not enough on making books that can charm you.
Well I'm gonna check out Irredeemable. I have to agree with you on DC. The Crisis and 52 stuff made them so much money I guess they can't stop now.
Let me add my two cents:
The only DC comics I ever thought was worth a damn was Green Lantern, and the Sinestro Corps War and The Blackest Night story lines are some of the best writing in comics today. I've always been a Marvel fan but they've been doing their best to fuck up all their comic lines. Brand New Day was a terribly contrived reboot for Spiderman. X-Men havent had a decent story line in at least a decade and the X-titles should all be renamed Wolverine & Friends, since this is what they've devolved into. They've jut destroyed the entire Ultimate line for no apparent reason. The only decent line has been the various Avenger titles and tie-ins, but they're starting to suffer from overexposure as well. I'm not sure they'll be able to recover from the Dark Reign mega event. War of Kings is quite good, but I'm sure they'll manage to fuck it up before too long.
At least The Walking Dead is still superb.
Quote from: Hansmeister on June 12, 2009, 07:52:02 PM
Let me add my two cents:
The only DC comics I ever thought was worth a damn was Green Lantern, and the Sinestro Corps War and The Blackest Night story lines are some of the best writing in comics today. I've always been a Marvel fan but they've been doing their best to fuck up all their comic lines. Brand New Day was a terribly contrived reboot for Spiderman. X-Men havent had a decent story line in at least a decade and the X-titles should all be renamed Wolverine & Friends, since this is what they've devolved into. They've jut destroyed the entire Ultimate line for no apparent reason. The only decent line has been the various Avenger titles and tie-ins, but they're starting to suffer from overexposure as well. I'm not sure they'll be able to recover from the Dark Reign mega event. War of Kings is quite good, but I'm sure they'll manage to fuck it up before too long.
At least The Walking Dead is still superb.
Green Lantern is good stuff, I agree.
As for Marvel, I agree with most of what you said. I thought that Planet Hulk was the best thing that Marvel had done in a decade, and one of the best Hulk runs of all time. And it did it without being a crossover, and only involving two existing characters. The Ultimate line can't keep up the steam forever. For one thing, there's a glut of 'gritty' hero comics out there. For another, while some characters have been slightly reimagined, a lot of the Ultimate is retelling their best old stories and reintroducing characters from the mainline Marvelverse. Ultimately, the Ultimate universe will suffer as the quality characters get used up and killed off. Spiderman has been on the decline for over a decade now, but the reboot was easily the worst thing that Marvel has done in all that time.
The Walking Dead I don't like. Too much killing of the characters.
I look at the whole Brand New Day Era as "an imaginary story/alt universe Spidey, it helps me sleep at night.
War Of Kings (and all the last few "cosmic series" at both Marvel & DC) is really good. Solid comics. very little soap opera, lots of cool matchups, Galactic battles. etc.
BTW, The New "Buck Rogers" reboot from Dynamite is fun and gorgeously drawn.
This has me thinking... Why are the more Cosmic storylines at Marvel and DC really the only decent stuff that is being done in their various Super-verses?
What is it about Adam Strange etc, The GL Corp... Nova Corp, Guardians of the Galaxy, R.E.B.E.L.S , etc are so much better than all the other mainstream of superhero-dom (with a few scattered (usually brief) exceptions. ) Why are the more cosmic storylines more interesting? Just better writing?
Or do the Earthbound heroes have too much baggage, mythos dragging them down? OR are Didio and Quesada both just assholes out to ruin our cherished childhood/adolescent/adult... memories?
Hmmmm?
Quote from: BuddhaRhubarb on June 12, 2009, 10:32:23 PM
This has me thinking... Why are the more Cosmic storylines at Marvel and DC really the only decent stuff that is being done in their various Super-verses?
What is it about Adam Strange etc, The GL Corp... Nova Corp, Guardians of the Galaxy, R.E.B.E.L.S , etc are so much better than all the other mainstream of superhero-dom (with a few scattered (usually brief) exceptions. ) Why are the more cosmic storylines more interesting? Just better writing?
Or do the Earthbound heroes have too much baggage, mythos dragging them down? OR are Didio and Quesada both just assholes out to ruin our cherished childhood/adolescent/adult... memories?
Hmmmm?
I think there's several parts to it. For one thing, the cosmic stories have a tendency to be more innovative in creating new villains and in their usage of established ones. Another thing is that the cosmic books tend to be shorter runs and smaller readerships than the 'money books' (Batman, Superman, X-Men, Spiderman) and so there's less pressure to be forumulaic, and less editorial bullshit. That said, they still sell as they are expected to, and so nobody feels the need to make any '2 THE XTREME' changes, which are almost invariably bad (Hey, let's kill Ted Kord and make the Blue Beetle a Mexican!).
Also, the nature of the cosmic stories tends to be a bit different. They're more mysterious, and can go to all sorts of crazy places where anything is possible. Compare that to most superhero books, which usually tend to involve a fistfight in an urban area. The cosmic books tend to have a larger scale, too. The Cosmic Beings are unambiguously the most powerful beings in the Marvel Universe and Green Lantern is the most powerful hero on DC Earth. A sense of awe is always nice.
So basicly, the cosmic books have creativity, adventure, mystery and awe going for them, whereas regular superhero books these days run mainly on drama and angst.
Maybe then we are seeing the end of the era of 'gritty realism' the Watchmen started. Heroes who have issues is one thing. Banal and boring heroes is quite another, like so much else these days the stampede to build on earlier works by imitation has resulted in the poorest form of flattery.
Or something.
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on June 13, 2009, 11:20:34 AM
Maybe then we are seeing the end of the era of 'gritty realism' the Watchmen started. Heroes who have issues is one thing. Banal and boring heroes is quite another, like so much else these days the stampede to build on earlier works by imitation has resulted in the poorest form of flattery.
Or something.
I think this feeds into what Neil is saying too. The "gritty" thing has been done to death and is now the only way Superhero movies (the real cash cow for comics companies) seem to get made. (somehow more "realistic"? :p )
I like the epic scale of the Cosmic stories and the fact that the Epicness has not so much of an impact on continuity... and that there isn't all the continuity constrictions that Earthbound Tights Wearers have to deal with.
I welcome an end to the gritty thing. Interestingly some of Marvel's best sales these days are the "Adventures" line which is their all ages and lacking the continuity bug comics. Just old fashioned super good guys taking down super bad guys. Now that's comics.
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on June 13, 2009, 11:20:34 AM
Maybe then we are seeing the end of the era of 'gritty realism' the Watchmen started. Heroes who have issues is one thing. Banal and boring heroes is quite another, like so much else these days the stampede to build on earlier works by imitation has resulted in the poorest form of flattery.
Or something.
One would hope so. I mean, I wouldn't want to see them all go (the recent Batman is more interesting than the 'Uncle Batman' of the Silver Age), but when everybody has a special tortured past, then nobody does because it's not special or interesting anymore.
Mind you, gritty realism makes movies, and these days comics are mainly development tools for characters who will hopefully get a feature film, or at least a straight-to-DVD animated release.
They should crossbreed Max Payne and Hitman games and call it Punisher - The Videogame.
I think another thing with regards to the Cosmic comics is that they tend to focus on the lesser known and more over looked heroes and villains. It's one of the issues I have with the Star Wars Expanded Universe bullshit. How many times do we need to be force fed the same damned characters being involved in every single important event occurring in the storyline. How many times do Superman and the Justice League staples or Wolverine and the X-Men or Avengers have to be the most important players and on the scene for the most important events. It's pretty much all been done before with all of these characters. Changing the locations and the villain names does not a new and interesting concept make.
Quote from: Judas Iscariot on June 13, 2009, 06:46:17 PM
I think another thing with regards to the Cosmic comics is that they tend to focus on the lesser known and more over looked heroes and villains. It's one of the issues I have with the Star Wars Expanded Universe bullshit. How many times do we need to be force fed the same damned characters being involved in every single important event occurring in the storyline. How many times do Superman and the Justice League staples or Wolverine and the X-Men or Avengers have to be the most important players and on the scene for the most important events. It's pretty much all been done before with all of these characters. Changing the locations and the villain names does not a new and interesting concept make.
I dunno. I kinda buy Superman always being #1, since he's one of the three most powerful people on Earth, and it's a small-ass planet. And out of the other two guys, Hal Jordan is responsible for a whole sector of space and isn't always around, and Billy Batson is extremely small-scale and provincial, despite his enormous power level. But yeah, I definitely see where you're coming from on that. The only time Wolverine has ever shown up in a cosmic Marvel book was to be brutally murdered by Thanos.
The Umbrella Academy v. 1- Fabulous stuff. Written, unfortunately, by that guy from My Chemical Romance. Illustrated by that guy who pencils for Mignola. Very reminiscent of Migs's stuff.
WTF?
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no context there Tim. Funny tho seeing The Hulk using a gun. How exactly did he pull the trigger on that tiny thing.
I went to a local Comic Show and got Annhilation. See how good this cosmic stuff is.
I also got Irredeemable. Good, but on the short side.
Just ordered "League of Extraordinary Gentlemen - Vol. 3: 1910". :bowler:
Quote from: Syt on June 22, 2009, 12:59:08 AM
Just ordered "League of Extraordinary Gentlemen - Vol. 3: 1910". :bowler:
It's alright. Nothing spectacular.
Quote from: Habbaku on June 22, 2009, 10:27:25 AM
Quote from: Syt on June 22, 2009, 12:59:08 AM
Just ordered "League of Extraordinary Gentlemen - Vol. 3: 1910". :bowler:
It's alright. Nothing spectacular.
Yeah, but for 6 € I was willing to risk it. The Black Dossier was already a bit esoteric, though I loved some of the sections a lot.
I almost bought that LEG 1910 also. But found Planetary vol 1 & All-Star Superman vol 1 for way cheap, and ended up buying those. Very happy with that decision.
Oh and hey anyone read Cap 600?
He's coming back. I'm kinda sad. I like Bucky Cap. I wonder if Spidey's "Mephisto deal" will go up in smoke in a few weeks when he hits 600 also? I miss MJ.
Quote from: BuddhaRhubarb on June 14, 2009, 11:59:02 AM
no context there Tim. Funny tho seeing The Hulk using a gun. How exactly did he pull the trigger on that tiny thing.
I was hoping someone here would know where this was from.
I haven't really been reading much Marvel lately. Everything they do just comes off as kinda bland for me. Except X-Factor.
Quote from: Neil on June 22, 2009, 01:04:19 PM
I haven't really been reading much Marvel lately. Everything they do just comes off as kinda bland for me.
We need to see more Cage or Alias or Supreme Power or something other than Punisher with a MAX label.
Madrox rox!
Iron Fist is still good
I also chuckled mightily at the newest Punisher, with all the previously dead Super Villains trying to kill Frank.
Blackest Night is already pissing me off.
Quote from: Neil on July 16, 2009, 09:07:14 PM
Blackest Night is already pissing me off.
I hear ya on that. I like some of the concepts but the execution is crappy... I don't wanna see dark[insertdeadherohere] of any kind. use old stupid villains and just amp/revamp them... that's what marvel is doing. (with so-so results)
The #600 club. recently Marvel's bigger flagship titles are remorphing into their old numbering, so we've Had
Cap 600 which was well done but also a bit predictable.
Thor 600 was a nice change and I'm liking that title a lot now. can they sustain it? we'll see.
Spidey 600 - meh more of this whole nobody knows who spidey is anymore was lame really and so predictable until MJ showed up... let's speed that shit along. Spidey needs to be with MJ imho.
Hulk 600. oh fuck off.
I expect more when DD & FF get there.
Blackest Night is a zombie series. Raping the memories of fallen heroes is disgusting. Especially Sue, who already got raped once.
Thor is a good title. Other than X-Factor, it's the only thing in Marvel I really follow. I've wanted to follow Hulk, because Planet Hulk was the best thing that Marvel has done since the Infinity Gauntlet, but the fact that he was missing from his own title for a year or so is worthless. Marvel doesn't have as strong a second-string as DC, and so watching Hercules jackassing around is not fun. I was following Nova for a while, but drifted away for a bit.
Just picked up Red Prophet: Tales of Alvin Maker Volumes 1 and 2. Marvel hard cover graphic novels by Orson Scott Card set during the colonial era. Looked like they might be decent and they were on sale for 7 dollars a pop so I made the impulse buy. Anyone know anything about these?
They all need to be purged! :mad:
QuoteTwihards Overpower Cosplayers as "New Moon" Hits Comic-Con
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DOUGLAS WOLKPosted Jul 24, 2009 9:01 AM
If you have never been to Comic-Con International San Diego, it can be hard to understand how freaking huge it is. It is, simply, the biggest pop culture get-together in America, with every major fantasy or action movie of the next year represented, as well as video games, books, music, and, of course, comics. The 130,000 or so tickets sold out months ago; the con, which started back in 1970 as 300 geeks in a hotel basement, now overflows the entire mammoth San Diego convention center, and is taking over parts of the mega-hotels that flank it. It can take upwards of 45 minutes simply to walk from a movie screening at one end of the show to a panel ("The Best and Worst Manga of 2008-2009" or "A Darker Shade of Ink: Crime and Noir in Comics") at the other.
(Click here for photos of New Moon, The Imaginarium of Dr. Parnassus, Avatar and more movies at Comic-Con 2009)
And yes, a lot of attendees dress up to show their fannish affiliations, whether they're cosplaying or just sporting a T-shirt or button. This year, there are the inevitable dudes dressed like Imperial Stormtroopers, the inevitable girls dressed like Sailor Moon, a lonely Rorschach or two, and an enormous number of people wearing Green Lantern or Sinestro Corps T-shirts. But there's one name on more lips than any other: "Edward."
New Moon — the film of the second Twilight novel by Stephenie Meyer, about a love triangle involving a vampire and a werewolf, scheduled to open November 20 — is a big, big deal. An estimated 2000 people formed a tent city Wednesday night to camp outside the convention center's 6,500-capacity Hall H, where Summit Entertainment showed a preview of New Moon Thursday afternoon and brought along its stars Robert Pattinson, Kristen Stewart and Taylor Lautner. By mid-morning on Thursday, the line to get into the hall (which was also hosting previews of a bunch of forthcoming 3-D movies, James Cameron's Avatar, Terry Gilliam's The Imaginarium of Doctor Parnassus, and the comics-inspired Kick-Ass) stretched all the way down the side of the convention center, then jumped across the street and curled along the side of the bay as far as the eye could see.
Meanwhile, New Moon's principals appeared at a morning press conference, Stewart wearing a Minor Threat T-shirt and wisecracking, Lautner and Pattinson both referring to the movie as a "franchise." "Last year," Lautner noted, "Comic-Con was the big eye-opener for us" — the moment when they realized that Twilight was not just another vampire movie but something that meant an awful lot to a whole lot of people.
It's true: a quick, unscientific survey revealed that a solid majority of the people in line outside (mostly women) were primarily there for "New Moon," and crossing their fingers that they'd get into the hall, or at least a glimpse of its stars. A lot of them were wearing "Twilight" T-shirts, official or homemade; more than a few were wearing "Team Edward" or "Team Jacob" Burger King crowns. Why no Team Bella? "Bella's not really that important," said Hana Takio, a Team Jacob enthusiast who'd taken her place in the line around 9:30 AM for the New Moon panel five hours later. "It's all about the eyes."
As it turned out, the panel didn't screen all that much of the movie, although Taylor Lautner's fans were treated to footage of him shirtless, so they weren't complaining. Desiree Cooper, another Jacob buff who'd gotten in line with her friend a little before 10 a.m., had hoped to see all of the day's previews, especially Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs. But she summed up what she'd really wanted to see in the New Moon preview in two words: "A fursplosion!"
Get more Twilight on RollingStone.com:
QuoteThey all need to be purged!
Good.
Blekth. I wanted to go to San Diego Comic Con too. That's vile.
Read Blackest Night 1 and GL: BLackest Night. Struck me as vaguely Marvel Zombies like.
Been browsing through bookstores with a friend today. In one I found a collection of DC stories written by Alan Moore for 2.95 EUR:
Across the Universe: The DC Universe Stories of Alan Moore (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Across-Universe-Stories-Alan-Moore/dp/1840237317/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1249662536&sr=8-3)
Don't care much for the DC universe, but for this price I thought I'd take the risk.
I read Irrideamable 4. Not bad. Hope they know where they are going with it.
28 and 29 JSA. Kinda meh. I normally like JSA, been reading it off and on for many years. Hope itpicks up.
Read one, not sure about the title now, its at home. About some toys that go to war to save their kid from the Boogeyman. I enjoyed it.
Sky Pirates. Not bad. Not great. But has some killing. Some sort of Firefly-esque adventure that probably appeals to the furry sect.
Some great news outta DC: James Robinson of Starman fame is taking over JLA... the "Cry For Justice mini so far is great. This is My JLA.
Btw, has anyone read Mouse Guard: Autumn 1152 (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Mouse-Guard-Autumn-David-Petersen/dp/1845766601/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1249662841&sr=8-2)?
At first I thought it was a kids' book, what with anthropomorphic (medieval) mice, but it looked pretty grim and dark throughout. Haven't picked it up yet, though.
example panel that y'all will like (actually just a crop of a panel: "The Boob of Steel"
Quote from: Syt on August 07, 2009, 11:35:53 AM
Btw, has anyone read Mouse Guard: Autumn 1152 (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Mouse-Guard-Autumn-David-Petersen/dp/1845766601/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1249662841&sr=8-2)?
At first I thought it was a kids' book, what with anthropomorphic (medieval) mice, but it looked pretty grim and dark throughout. Haven't picked it up yet, though.
The Anti-Redwall?
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on August 07, 2009, 12:18:04 PM
Quote from: Syt on August 07, 2009, 11:35:53 AM
Btw, has anyone read Mouse Guard: Autumn 1152 (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Mouse-Guard-Autumn-David-Petersen/dp/1845766601/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1249662841&sr=8-2)?
At first I thought it was a kids' book, what with anthropomorphic (medieval) mice, but it looked pretty grim and dark throughout. Haven't picked it up yet, though.
The Anti-Redwall?
Kinda looked like it. In the beginning the coastal village is overrun by crabs :)
That MouseGuard stuff is supposed to be good. There are a few trades now iirc.
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on July 27, 2009, 01:06:14 PM
Read Blackest Night 1 and GL: BLackest Night. Struck me as vaguely Marvel Zombies like.
Exactly. And that's what's pissing me off.
Quote from: BuddhaRhubarb on August 07, 2009, 11:35:18 AM
Some great news outta DC: James Robinson of Starman fame is taking over JLA... the "Cry For Justice mini so far is great. This is My JLA.
The Golden Age :worthy:
's what I'm saying.. edit - oops Willingham is shaking up the JSA, too.
These things make me happy. Blackest Night Zombies- not as much.
oh in the could be awesome info: Scarlett Johannsen = Black Widow (Natasha obviously) in Iron Man 2... But can she do the gymnastics? I guess that's what CGI is for :sigh:
Archie to wed Veronica? That's retarded, what does the comic have besides the love triangle? Plus, Veronica's a bitch.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32414965/ns/today-today_books/
Quote from: jimmy olsen on August 14, 2009, 11:41:38 AM
Archie to wed Veronica? That's retarded, what does the comic have besides the love triangle? Plus, Veronica's a bitch.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32414965/ns/today-today_books/
I know. Isn't it weird for High School Students to wed? (Eternal HS students or not) Is Ronnie Preggers? This way he can have an affair with Betty... spice up their relationship while Ronnie deals with Nannies for their evil red headed children.
Quote from: BuddhaRhubarb on August 14, 2009, 11:46:37 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on August 14, 2009, 11:41:38 AM
Archie to wed Veronica? That's retarded, what does the comic have besides the love triangle? Plus, Veronica's a bitch.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32414965/ns/today-today_books/
I know. Isn't it weird for High School Students to wed? (Eternal HS students or not) Is Ronnie Preggers? This way he can have an affair with Betty... spice up their relationship while Ronnie deals with Nannies for their evil red headed children.
It's set in the "future"...I bet it'll end up as some kind of what if/dream sequence/etc and they'll end up doing the same thing with Betty a couple of years from now.
QuoteThe Archie Comics Web site shows Archie proposing to Veronica on bended knee on the cover of No. 600, which hits comic book stores Aug. 19. That begins a six-issue story arc that takes place in the future — when the perpetual high schoolers have graduated from college, said Victor Gorelick, editor-in-chief of Archie Comics.
read and enjoyed the 1st two rebooted "Ultimate" universe titles... Spidey and Ultimate Avengers. Both were light, fresh and fun. will they last this way? who knows.
I liked that both comics introduced new characters that weren't just regular marvel characters all "edgied up".
Also read Terry Moore's new comic "Echo"... very very good. glad I'm getting in on the ground floor with it.
Quote from: BuddhaRhubarb on August 14, 2009, 09:36:55 PM
read and enjoyed the 1st two rebooted "Ultimate" universe titles... Spidey and Ultimate Avengers. Both were light, fresh and fun. will they last this way? who knows.
I liked that both comics introduced new characters that weren't just regular marvel characters all "edgied up".
Also read Terry Moore's new comic "Echo"... very very good. glad I'm getting in on the ground floor with it.
Wait a minute... They rebooted the Ultimate Universe, which was itself a reboot of the regular Marvel Universe?
That's fucking retarded.
Quote from: Neil on August 14, 2009, 09:59:41 PM
Wait a minute... They rebooted the Ultimate Universe, which was itself a reboot of the regular Marvel Universe?
That's fucking retarded.
Gives me one less comic to buy every month.
Quote from: Neil on August 14, 2009, 09:59:41 PM
Quote from: BuddhaRhubarb on August 14, 2009, 09:36:55 PM
read and enjoyed the 1st two rebooted "Ultimate" universe titles... Spidey and Ultimate Avengers. Both were light, fresh and fun. will they last this way? who knows.
I liked that both comics introduced new characters that weren't just regular marvel characters all "edgied up".
Also read Terry Moore's new comic "Echo"... very very good. glad I'm getting in on the ground floor with it.
Wait a minute... They rebooted the Ultimate Universe, which was itself a reboot of the regular Marvel Universe?
That's fucking retarded.
They had to because Jeph Loeb completely fucked up the Ultimate Universe like he does with every comic he writes.
Quote from: Vince on August 15, 2009, 07:00:59 AM
Quote from: Neil on August 14, 2009, 09:59:41 PM
Quote from: BuddhaRhubarb on August 14, 2009, 09:36:55 PM
read and enjoyed the 1st two rebooted "Ultimate" universe titles... Spidey and Ultimate Avengers. Both were light, fresh and fun. will they last this way? who knows.
I liked that both comics introduced new characters that weren't just regular marvel characters all "edgied up".
Also read Terry Moore's new comic "Echo"... very very good. glad I'm getting in on the ground floor with it.
Wait a minute... They rebooted the Ultimate Universe, which was itself a reboot of the regular Marvel Universe?
That's fucking retarded.
They had to because Jeph Loeb completely fucked up the Ultimate Universe like he does with every comic he writes.
I had sort of stopped following the Ultimate Universe. What did he do to it?
Quote from: Neil on August 15, 2009, 07:10:58 AM
Quote from: Vince on August 15, 2009, 07:00:59 AM
They had to because Jeph Loeb completely fucked up the Ultimate Universe like he does with every comic he writes.
I had sort of stopped following the Ultimate Universe. What did he do to it?
He wrote Ultimates 3 and Ultimatum. Both made no sense, were universally hated and considered to have destroyed Ultimate Marvel. Just imagine the Red Hulk storyline (another of Loeb's disasters) and apply it to an entire universe.
Ugh... Red Hulk. <_<
Loeb's gone now. hopefully forever. I also hate Red Hulk. worst marvel storyline since the early 90's imho.
http://www.newsarama.com/comics/080914-Pinocchio-Slayer.html (http://www.newsarama.com/comics/080914-Pinocchio-Slayer.html)
This looks weird but somewhat compelling.
Quote from: BuddhaRhubarb on August 15, 2009, 02:00:56 PM
Loeb's gone now. hopefully forever. I also hate Red Hulk. worst marvel storyline since the early 90's imho.
It's amazing really. Planet Hulk is one of the best things that Marvel has ever done. World War Hulk was much, much weaker, but not totally worthless. And then they follow it up with a bunch of garbage with a mysterious, crappy Red Hulk, senselessly beating up random people and depowering Bruce Banner. It would have been much better to depower Banner at the end of World War Hulk.
Quote from: Neil on August 16, 2009, 08:52:36 AM
Quote from: BuddhaRhubarb on August 15, 2009, 02:00:56 PM
Loeb's gone now. hopefully forever. I also hate Red Hulk. worst marvel storyline since the early 90's imho.
It's amazing really. Planet Hulk is one of the best things that Marvel has ever done. World War Hulk was much, much weaker, but not totally worthless. And then they follow it up with a bunch of garbage with a mysterious, crappy Red Hulk, senselessly beating up random people and depowering Bruce Banner. It would have been much better to depower Banner at the end of World War Hulk.
Unfortunately Hulk and Ultimatum were consistent top 10 sellers the months they were released. So while the writing in them is utter garbage as long as it keeps selling that good Marvel won't get rid of Loeb.
Quote from: Vince on August 15, 2009, 07:00:59 AM
Quote from: Neil on August 14, 2009, 09:59:41 PM
Quote from: BuddhaRhubarb on August 14, 2009, 09:36:55 PM
read and enjoyed the 1st two rebooted "Ultimate" universe titles... Spidey and Ultimate Avengers. Both were light, fresh and fun. will they last this way? who knows.
I liked that both comics introduced new characters that weren't just regular marvel characters all "edgied up".
Also read Terry Moore's new comic "Echo"... very very good. glad I'm getting in on the ground floor with it.
Wait a minute... They rebooted the Ultimate Universe, which was itself a reboot of the regular Marvel Universe?
That's fucking retarded.
They had to because Jeph Loeb completely fucked up the Ultimate Universe like he does with every comic he writes.
THE LONG HALLOWEEN.
Quote from: Neil on August 16, 2009, 08:52:36 AM
Quote from: BuddhaRhubarb on August 15, 2009, 02:00:56 PM
Loeb's gone now. hopefully forever. I also hate Red Hulk. worst marvel storyline since the early 90's imho.
It's amazing really. Planet Hulk is one of the best things that Marvel has ever done. World War Hulk was much, much weaker, but not totally worthless. And then they follow it up with a bunch of garbage with a mysterious, crappy Red Hulk, senselessly beating up random people and depowering Bruce Banner. It would have been much better to depower Banner at the end of World War Hulk.
Yeah I assumed that's what was going to happen at the end of WWH. Then they could've had a storyline wherein he has no choice but to get re-hulked for some planet saving reason.
But no we get another color variation instead of a story.
Skippy has a point - Long Halloween was good... but that was ages ago now.
Oh I picked up some great TPB bargains the last few days... got 2 Preacher collections... Dixie Fried and the one before it. I forgot how hilarious that series could be. And I don't think I read the last year or two.
also today a friend couldn't unload the 2nd & 3rd Walking Dead Trades at the local used book store ... so I picked those up off him. Yay. I've been buying more comics recently, but all used, or discounted. Those 4 and the origianl Omega The Unknown for under 40$
http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?hl=en&ie=UTF8&split=0&gl=us&ei=8DBESqSiDd2ptgeLsMSYAQ&t=h&msa=0&msid=117944206413941555934.00046d3e01e118c417c45&z=15
Someone mapped out all of The Walking Dead with Google Maps.
cool.
Liking how the recent Nova & Guardians of the Galaxy storylines have deftly weaved into the next story line. Magus is back. No Astro Fro Tho' :(
I'm liking the new Power Girl Series. it's got a goofy Blue Beetle-esque quality that I find charming. Plus Les Boobs Of Steel. It's harmless fun.... nice break from all the angst running through DC still despite all the supposed internet backlash. :p
I'm tired of Superman being Ultimate Superman or whatever he is now. The same goes for any of DC's now "gritty-er" characters. DC does archetypes, they should stick with that... play with that. Rip off Alan Moore, not Garth Ennis. kthxbyeDC :nerd:
Disney is buying Marvel. :mad:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32626135/ns/business-media_biz/
Well, that's pretty much the end of Marvel Comics then.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on August 31, 2009, 10:16:35 AM
Disney is buying Marvel. :mad:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32626135/ns/business-media_biz/
:bleeding: Like Neil says that's the end of Marvel, at least as a cool thing. Once Disney taints you it's all over.
This will only exacerbate the trend in comics towards unoriginal retreads of storylines and characters from the 70s, 80s and 90s. The once proud superhero medium is falling apart.
I eagerly await the announcement of a Red Hulk/Mickey Mouse team-up miniseries.
Quote from: Vince on August 31, 2009, 02:33:44 PM
I eagerly await the announcement of a Red Hulk/Mickey Mouse team-up miniseries.
Janet Van Dyne's code name will become 'Tinkerbell'. Jean Grey, Kitty Pryde and Mary Jane Parker will become Disney Princesses.
Man, stock price is up nice on the day. I told my pops to buy into Marvel when it was $4 and change a share. Sucker sold when it hit 13. Dumbass.
QuoteV for Vendetta' teen faces disorderly charge
Fri Oct 16, 7:57 pm ET
AYER, Mass. – Police said an 18-year-old man faces a charge of disorderly conduct for donning a mask like in the movie "V for Vendetta" to terrorize residents of central Massachusetts towns of Ayer and Groton.
The Sentinel and Enterprise of Fitchburg reported Friday that the "V" sightings began Sept. 30 when a group of teenagers began wearing the masks to scare one another.
But one teen got carried away and began peering into residents' windows. Groton police assisted in the probe following a similar report from Shaw's supermarket.
Police did not identify the main suspect they said was not arrested but will face a charge of disorderly conduct for scaring and alarming his neighbors.
"V for Vendetta" was adapted from a graphic novel about a masked freedom fighter battling British fascism in the near future.
I just got back from Germany where I bought Prinz Eisenherz (Prince Valiant) books 6-9. It's my favourite comic book series.
For Cal:
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F4.bp.blogspot.com%2F_BeGEAD8oSwg%2FSjh-im5DfWI%2FAAAAAAAABZY%2FZ07rjPYiwSs%2Fs400%2Fanthony_vukojevich_man_who_cover.gif&hash=49cd2d51085c29523be0b485fc421f251b58451d)
Read some of the latest Marvel Zombies. That first issue with Spiderman was hilarious.
Blackest Night is kinda blah.
Read the latest Buffy's. Already Joss Whedon is gearing up for one of his in your face unhappy endings. Word.
QuoteAMC makes room for "Walking Dead"
By Nellie Andreeva Mon Mar 29, 8:26 PM PDT
"The Walking Dead," based on Robert Kirkman's popular graphic novels, will become AMC's newest original series.
The cable network, which acquired the rights to the books in August after a bidding war, has ordered six episodes of "Dead."
Frank Darabont ("The Shawshank Redemption," "The Green Mile") is writing and directing the show..
The series is set to premiere in October during AMC's Fearfest, the network's annual marathon of thriller and horror films.
:punk:
Well, let's hope they don't mess this up. :(
Well, that's good. And the series will cover the book from back when it was still good.
Quote from: Neil on March 30, 2010, 06:19:34 AM
Well, that's good. And the series will cover the book from back when it was still good.
Well, the whole governor arc is pretty unsurpassed, but the ones after that weren't all bad, either. I especially like the continuing evolution of Carl (the son) and what they did with the twins was a rather evil twist. The cannibal arc ... well, that was very meh, but with the new outpost the series should pick up again with new characters being introduced.
Scored some nice bargain bin finds today. HC The Shadow 1941 By Denny O'Neil and MW Kaluta :wub: who so nails The Shadow. 5 bucks. Vietnam Journal "Indian Country" - Don Lomax Vietnam Comics. Great war comix for 2 dollars!. and an Elektra trade from marvel Knights era Bendis/Chuck Austen "The Scorpio Key". Solid stuff, again 4 bucks.
Green Lantern Extended trailer (http://www.imdb.com/video/imdb/vi2110954777/)
That looks much better than the first trailer I saw. I think the girl they have playing Carol Ferris is retarded or something.
Bought a volume witht the first 16 numbers of Sandman, verry nice.
L.
have picked up a few more trades with tax refund money - "Kill Shakespeare" vol 1 which looks interesting but I haven't got to yet, and a collection of Hellblazer, early Jamie Delano stuff, also on the to read pile, also a new copy of "Kingdom Come" to replace the one I loaned out and can't remember who I loaned it to..
oh and on the monthly front. JMS @ DC reprort... Superman, going very well... Wonder Woman, not so much, it appears he's going to in the end just retread Alan Moore's Wonder Woman aka Promethea.
Meh Already been done. I'm hoping he'll surprise me and take it a different way, but so far it's just annoying.
recently picked up the Complete From Hell for 10 bucks ! slightly damaged, but fixed by me with a knife and a ruler.
annoying news from DC (with an incidental upside for iphone/pad/other tablet/smartphone people) in September they are restarting all their titles at #1 :sigh: How is that cooler than having a comic like Action which is nearing #1000 in a few years... It's not. just another marketing ploy because apparently new readers think that there is some kind of continuity going on? If you want to pick up an ongoing, just start as a new arc is starting. sheesh.
the upside is that all their comics will come out same day in e-formats. All the companies will be following suit (smaller ones likely already have I imagine)
You know that this is just a temporary thing. In a year or two, when high numbers come back into vogue (and certainly before Action #1000), they'll switch it back and just count the issues as if they had been numbered properly all along. They did this a million times during the collector boom.
Amazing pic.
Linked because it's just too damn long
http://jpg.artige.no/store/6175.jpg
Quote from: jimmy olsen on July 01, 2011, 06:24:35 AM
Amazing pic.
Linked because it's just too damn long
http://jpg.artige.no/store/6175.jpg
All right, it was pretty great.
Y&K are the best.
Must people here have probably seen the Batman alignment sheet, but here's one for Superman I hadn't seen before.
Found here
http://www.heroscapers.com/community/showthread.php?t=29962
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffc07.deviantart.net%2Ffs70%2Ff%2F2010%2F104%2Fe%2F7%2FSuperman_D_D_Alignment_by_Granite_M.png&hash=eac91ac60bc949b3f24887eebcd6010d58d7896a)
:)
One of my kids today had a big thick color graphic novel.
I glanced at the title and saw Starcraft. I picked it up and flipped through it and was disappointed in the extreme. This was not a comic about war and carnage among the stars, but of pro-gamers on the Starcraft circuit. :bleeding:
did you fail him
Amazing! (http://movies.yahoo.com/blogs/movie-talk/amazing-spider-man-trailer-shows-world-spidey-eyes-183424649.html)
Quote from: jimmy olsen on July 18, 2011, 02:03:30 AM
One of my kids today had a big thick color graphic novel.
I glanced at the title and saw Starcraft. I picked it up and flipped through it and was disappointed in the extreme. This was not a comic about war and carnage among the stars, but of pro-gamers on the Starcraft circuit. :bleeding:
I could see that working. I'm sure those characters are unbelievably fucked up emotional retards. Well, Welcome to the NHK is supposed to be good, anyway.
Quote from: katmai on July 21, 2011, 01:16:56 AM
Amazing! (http://movies.yahoo.com/blogs/movie-talk/amazing-spider-man-trailer-shows-world-spidey-eyes-183424649.html)
more 3D hoohaw. meh.
The upcoming DC relaunch of everything? I hate it on principle. I'm sure there will be some good stuff happening. But I was digging alot of the comics as they were. and the renumbering will only last until Detective reaches it's next milestone number at 900 in less than two years. sigh. the more things change...
Quote from: BuddhaRhubarb on July 21, 2011, 11:36:54 AM
The upcoming DC relaunch of everything? I hate it on principle. I'm sure there will be some good stuff happening. But I was digging alot of the comics as they were. and the renumbering will only last until Detective reaches it's next milestone number at 900 in less than two years. sigh. the more things change...
Well, DC has made a decision to drop back into the bad old days of the 90s when everything was always about having as many #1s on the stands as possible. Looking back, it all started for fall apart for DC around Infinite Crisis, and they really haven't been able to recover since the unmitigated disaster that was Final Crisis. They're a company that is floundering around without direction, only in it for the shock value. Even Green Lantern, which was some of the best stuff happening a few years ago, has fallen into shadow, with Brightest Day being totally uninteresting. The Titans are ruined by the presence of the new Robin, and the book with the old JLI/Superbuddies has been damaged by the absence of Ted Kord. Right now, the only thing that DC is doing that I'm really enjoying is, surprisingly, Power Girl. I thought that it was going to be a cheesecake book, but it's actually fun and clever.
Quote from: BuddhaRhubarb on July 21, 2011, 11:31:20 AM
Quote from: katmai on July 21, 2011, 01:16:56 AM
Amazing! (http://movies.yahoo.com/blogs/movie-talk/amazing-spider-man-trailer-shows-world-spidey-eyes-183424649.html)
more 3D hoohaw. meh.
Yep. Maybe I'll see it when it comes out on the movie channels. I'm all Spidermanned out.
Quote from: Neil on July 21, 2011, 01:11:39 PM
Quote from: BuddhaRhubarb on July 21, 2011, 11:36:54 AM
The upcoming DC relaunch of everything? I hate it on principle. I'm sure there will be some good stuff happening. But I was digging alot of the comics as they were. and the renumbering will only last until Detective reaches it's next milestone number at 900 in less than two years. sigh. the more things change...
Well, DC has made a decision to drop back into the bad old days of the 90s when everything was always about having as many #1s on the stands as possible. Looking back, it all started for fall apart for DC around Infinite Crisis, and they really haven't been able to recover since the unmitigated disaster that was Final Crisis. They're a company that is floundering around without direction, only in it for the shock value. Even Green Lantern, which was some of the best stuff happening a few years ago, has fallen into shadow, with Brightest Day being totally uninteresting. The Titans are ruined by the presence of the new Robin, and the book with the old JLI/Superbuddies has been damaged by the absence of Ted Kord. Right now, the only thing that DC is doing that I'm really enjoying is, surprisingly, Power Girl. I thought that it was going to be a cheesecake book, but it's actually fun and clever.
stuff that's been good recently (non vertigo) imo (all of which is being discarded.)
Power Girl
LSH & Adventure comics (also Legion)
Superboy
Batman & Robin
Detective Comics
everything else is yeah kind o treading water.
Don't get me started on the Superman and Lois not being married anymore. sigh... worse than Spidey & MJ.
I'm going to start reading Invincible.
Quote from: BuddhaRhubarb on July 22, 2011, 12:13:36 PM
Quote from: Neil on July 21, 2011, 01:11:39 PM
Quote from: BuddhaRhubarb on July 21, 2011, 11:36:54 AM
The upcoming DC relaunch of everything? I hate it on principle. I'm sure there will be some good stuff happening. But I was digging alot of the comics as they were. and the renumbering will only last until Detective reaches it's next milestone number at 900 in less than two years. sigh. the more things change...
Well, DC has made a decision to drop back into the bad old days of the 90s when everything was always about having as many #1s on the stands as possible. Looking back, it all started for fall apart for DC around Infinite Crisis, and they really haven't been able to recover since the unmitigated disaster that was Final Crisis. They're a company that is floundering around without direction, only in it for the shock value. Even Green Lantern, which was some of the best stuff happening a few years ago, has fallen into shadow, with Brightest Day being totally uninteresting. The Titans are ruined by the presence of the new Robin, and the book with the old JLI/Superbuddies has been damaged by the absence of Ted Kord. Right now, the only thing that DC is doing that I'm really enjoying is, surprisingly, Power Girl. I thought that it was going to be a cheesecake book, but it's actually fun and clever.
stuff that's been good recently (non vertigo) imo (all of which is being discarded.)
Power Girl
LSH & Adventure comics (also Legion)
Superboy
Batman & Robin
Detective Comics
everything else is yeah kind o treading water.
Don't get me started on the Superman and Lois not being married anymore. sigh... worse than Spidey & MJ.
Secret Six is (well, soon "was") great. That and Booster Gold were the only things I was picking up on a regular basis. Soon, I will be picking up nothing on a regular basis! This is well, since I have no money.
Quote from: Ideologue on July 22, 2011, 12:17:30 PM
Quote from: BuddhaRhubarb on July 22, 2011, 12:13:36 PM
Quote from: Neil on July 21, 2011, 01:11:39 PM
Quote from: BuddhaRhubarb on July 21, 2011, 11:36:54 AM
The upcoming DC relaunch of everything? I hate it on principle. I'm sure there will be some good stuff happening. But I was digging alot of the comics as they were. and the renumbering will only last until Detective reaches it's next milestone number at 900 in less than two years. sigh. the more things change...
Well, DC has made a decision to drop back into the bad old days of the 90s when everything was always about having as many #1s on the stands as possible. Looking back, it all started for fall apart for DC around Infinite Crisis, and they really haven't been able to recover since the unmitigated disaster that was Final Crisis. They're a company that is floundering around without direction, only in it for the shock value. Even Green Lantern, which was some of the best stuff happening a few years ago, has fallen into shadow, with Brightest Day being totally uninteresting. The Titans are ruined by the presence of the new Robin, and the book with the old JLI/Superbuddies has been damaged by the absence of Ted Kord. Right now, the only thing that DC is doing that I'm really enjoying is, surprisingly, Power Girl. I thought that it was going to be a cheesecake book, but it's actually fun and clever.
stuff that's been good recently (non vertigo) imo (all of which is being discarded.)
Power Girl
LSH & Adventure comics (also Legion)
Superboy
Batman & Robin
Detective Comics
everything else is yeah kind o treading water.
Don't get me started on the Superman and Lois not being married anymore. sigh... worse than Spidey & MJ.
Secret Six is (well, soon "was") great. That and Booster Gold were the only things I was picking up on a regular basis. Soon, I will be picking up nothing on a regular basis! This is well, since I have no money.
ya I dug those two as well, though recently I guess with the coming reboot they've been treading water a bit. I don't like "Rhodes Scholar" Bane so much.
some bargain bin scores today over on Main Street.: Alias trades vol 2 & 3. (i have 4, need 1) and The recent "Creeper" Trade by Steve Niles. One of the only versions of the Creeper that's done kinda right. No one except Niles and Ditko have ever managed the right kind of "Creeper" .
Quote from: BuddhaRhubarb on July 22, 2011, 12:20:12 PM
ya I dug those two as well, though recently I guess with the coming reboot they've been treading water a bit. I don't like "Rhodes Scholar" Bane so much.
Well, he was always supposed to be smart. Although he is played pretty bizarrely through the series; one of the neat things about the ending is that he's going back to basics, and killin' Batman.
Lately, I've been reading the old Lois Lane books. Those things are fucking insane.
lol yeah those old Lois Lane, Jimmy Olsens etc were some crazy shit. I do approve of Bane trying to kill Bats. That should always be his goal.
Atop The Fourth Wall reviews Superman Meets the Quik Bunny! :lmfao:
http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/linkara/at4w/30797-superman-meets-the-quik-bunny
Well, you edited out some of the mistakes, at least.
So mean! :cry:
Quote from: jimmy olsen on August 15, 2011, 12:04:10 AM
Atop The Fourth Wall reviews Superman Meets the Quik Bunny! :lmfao:
http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/linkara/at4w/30797-superman-meets-the-quik-bunny
That guy has the same glasses as I do.
EDIT: Has the the same annoying voice as I do too.
I can't believe I watched that. It was fucking 30 minutes long! I may kill Tim in the near future.
Quote from: BuddhaRhubarb on August 09, 2011, 12:04:40 PM
lol yeah those old Lois Lane, Jimmy Olsens etc were some crazy shit. I do approve of Bane trying to kill Bats. That should always be his goal.
Finally picked up the last issue.
It's adequate.
Hell, it's better than I should have expected, given that it had to be written on the fly, and her plans either abandoned or stuffed into a rushed final chapter. I imagine any given DC book this month sucks in the exact same fashion, and probably worse (except possibly Johnsie's babies, as they are likelier to suck in their standard manner).
Quote from: Ideologue on August 15, 2011, 09:20:34 AM
Quote from: BuddhaRhubarb on August 09, 2011, 12:04:40 PM
lol yeah those old Lois Lane, Jimmy Olsens etc were some crazy shit. I do approve of Bane trying to kill Bats. That should always be his goal.
Finally picked up the last issue.
It's adequate.
Hell, it's better than I should have expected, given that it had to be written on the fly, and her plans either abandoned or stuffed into a rushed final chapter. I imagine any given DC book this month sucks in the exact same fashion, and probably worse (except possibly Johnsie's babies, as they are likelier to suck in their standard manner).
ya I read a few this month and they all pretty much seem rushed, and well, they are all pointless as the reboot starts Aug 31.
Yep. DC is going to be totally worthless for probably the next year or two at least.
I see that Marvel offers an online subscription for their comics, for 60$/year.
Offer seems to include the current series, plus many old ones. Considering I'm not really up to date with any of the series and am too lazy to go to a local comic book store this seems like a good offer?
(DC probably has something similar, but I like the Marvel heroes overall better than the DC ones.)
It sounds like a decent deal. I've just really not been terribly into anything they've done in the past five or so years though.
I wish DC would do it.
Well, I did most my reading in the mid-80s (X-Men, Spiderman, Punisher, mainly), so I have a lot of catching up to do.
About DC . . . I liked Lobo, I liked some Batman, some Green Lantern, didn't like Flash, Superman, Wonder Woman.
I recently started reading http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dreadstar (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dreadstar), a 1980s sci-fi comic that a friend of mine raved about. Has anyone here read it? Any comments?
Never read it, although I've generally liked Starlin's work. Word is that he went a little crazy during the Bush years.
Quote from: Ideologue on August 19, 2011, 05:06:37 AM
It sounds like a decent deal. I've just really not been terribly into anything they've done in the past five or so years though.
I wish DC would do it.
Well, when you consider that DC is about to drive off a cliff, that's not so good after all.
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcdn-www.i-am-bored.com%2Fmedia%2Fspidermanpose.jpg&hash=dc46fc3ec9007a12fb267c78e97e07b31b5159b2)
http://cdn-www.i-am-bored.com/media/spidermanpose.jpg
Heh.
Woah, talk about bullet dodged.
More concept art after the link.
http://ifanboy.com/articles/almost-a-show-gotham-high-cartoon-concept-art-revealed/
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.waffleimages.com%2Ff3b0b13035bc4b273293f1c16675f538dd22208b%2Ft%2FGothamHighclassphoto_final.jpg&hash=3af86254ec88efd96847968b713b46381b932925)
Quote from: The Larch on August 19, 2011, 06:24:02 AM
I recently started reading http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dreadstar (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dreadstar), a 1980s sci-fi comic that a friend of mine raved about. Has anyone here read it? Any comments?
I loved Dreadstar... the first series was excellent, awesome art and your typical Starlin fantastic sci-fi work.
Barbara Gordon as a love interest for Bruce Wayne? Inappropriate.
Quote from: PRC on September 23, 2011, 10:13:16 AM
Quote from: The Larch on August 19, 2011, 06:24:02 AM
I recently started reading http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dreadstar (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dreadstar), a 1980s sci-fi comic that a friend of mine raved about. Has anyone here read it? Any comments?
I loved Dreadstar... the first series was excellent, awesome art and your typical Starlin fantastic sci-fi work.
I found the... what was it? Instrumentality? To be overreminiscent of the Universal Church of Truth. I liked what I read of Dreadstar, but it was no Warlock.
I need to find my copy of the Death of Captain Marvel. I know it's here somewhere. More superheroes should die of cancer. Groundbreaking stuff.
I've been reading a fair amount of the DC new 52. Mostly ungood, but not completely dire. Animal Man's great, Batwoman is still very prettily made, Wonder Woman was interesting, By contrast, however, Grifter and the Legion books were awful.
Quote from: Neil on September 23, 2011, 10:19:20 AM
Barbara Gordon as a love interest for Bruce Wayne? Inappropriate.
That's your response! :lol:
Why is Jimmy Olsen in that picture, anyway?
Not Tim, the comic book character. Or is that... wait, that's not Jim Gordon is it? Nah.
The show might've been good, you know. It might have involved Bruce Wayne getting a swirlie, which is something I've never thought about before now, but it turns out have always wanted to see.
Quote from: Ideologue on September 23, 2011, 10:38:39 AM
Why is Jimmy Olsen in that picture, anyway?
Not Tim, the comic book character. Or is that... wait, that's not Jim Gordon is it? Nah.
The show might've been good, you know. It might have involved Bruce Wayne getting a swirlie, which is something I've never thought about before now, but it turns out have always wanted to see.
That's the Riddler. The green gives it away.
Going from the left, you have: Clayface, Two-Face, Penguin, Killer Croc, Riddler, Batgirl, Batman, Scarecrow, Catwoman, Joker, Harley Quinn, Poison Ivy, Bane, Mr. Freeze.
Quote from: Ideologue on September 23, 2011, 10:38:39 AM
Why is Jimmy Olsen in that picture, anyway?
Not Tim, the comic book character. Or is that... wait, that's not Jim Gordon is it? Nah.
The show might've been good, you know. It might have involved Bruce Wayne getting a swirlie, which is something I've never thought about before now, but it turns out have always wanted to see.
Dude, the names are right at the bottom of the pic.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on September 23, 2011, 11:32:42 AM
Quote from: Ideologue on September 23, 2011, 10:38:39 AM
Why is Jimmy Olsen in that picture, anyway?
Not Tim, the comic book character. Or is that... wait, that's not Jim Gordon is it? Nah.
The show might've been good, you know. It might have involved Bruce Wayne getting a swirlie, which is something I've never thought about before now, but it turns out have always wanted to see.
Dude, the names are right at the bottom of the pic.
Yeah, but in very small print that nobody noticed.
Looks like it should never see the light of day again in any case.
Read most of the new 52, only buying a few, though.
good out of the gate were:
Animal Man
Wonder Woman
Swamp Thing
I, Vampire
Resurrection Man
most of the Superman & Batman titles were decent but not spectacular... Batwoman & Batgirl being the best of the bunch actually.
everything else I read was okay or terrible. I imagine this list will get smaller as time passes.
as to the "continuity"? who cares? It's not like they don't re-invent the whole schmeer every few years anyway.
Batwoman was always going to be good. J.H. Williams III is a living god.
Justice League Dark anygood?
I didn't read it. I'm assuming it's okay.
Strangely, I really, really enjoyed The Flash. Barry Allen sucks, but Francis Manapul is a beautiful illustrator.
Quote from: Neil on September 23, 2011, 11:27:49 AM
Quote from: Ideologue on September 23, 2011, 10:38:39 AM
Why is Jimmy Olsen in that picture, anyway?
Not Tim, the comic book character. Or is that... wait, that's not Jim Gordon is it? Nah.
The show might've been good, you know. It might have involved Bruce Wayne getting a swirlie, which is something I've never thought about before now, but it turns out have always wanted to see.
That's the Riddler. The green gives it away.
Going from the left, you have: Clayface, Two-Face, Penguin, Killer Croc, Riddler, Batgirl, Batman, Scarecrow, Catwoman, Joker, Harley Quinn, Poison Ivy, Bane, Mr. Freeze.
I would think that young Bruce Wayne would be unhappy to be in a school composed almost entirely of freaks of nature. Even if Catwoman was there wearing such a short skirt. I imagine his family could afford a private school.
Quote from: Razgovory on September 29, 2011, 01:11:19 PM
I would think that young Bruce Wayne would be unhappy to be in a school composed almost entirely of freaks of nature. Even if Catwoman was there wearing such a short skirt. I imagine his family could afford a private school.
Heroes usually have democratic values, and that means slumming it out in a dead-end public school.
Quote from: Neil on September 29, 2011, 02:18:18 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on September 29, 2011, 01:11:19 PM
I would think that young Bruce Wayne would be unhappy to be in a school composed almost entirely of freaks of nature. Even if Catwoman was there wearing such a short skirt. I imagine his family could afford a private school.
Heroes usually have democratic values, and that means slumming it out in a dead-end public school.
I thought the Penguin was wealthy as well. Still it doesn't speak very highly of the intelligence of the Super villain community if they can't discover the identity of Batman when they went to high school with him. And he was one of the few people who didn't look like a carnival freak. And he wore a little bat symbol on his shirt.
Quote from: Ideologue on September 23, 2011, 10:27:48 AM
I need to find my copy of the Death of Captain Marvel. I know it's here somewhere. More superheroes should die of cancer. Groundbreaking stuff.
The Question died of cancer.
Superheroes should stay dead if they croak. It really is quite meaningless if they kill someone off, he/she will be resurrected soon enough.
Quote from: Razgovory on September 29, 2011, 01:11:19 PM
Quote from: Neil on September 23, 2011, 11:27:49 AM
Quote from: Ideologue on September 23, 2011, 10:38:39 AM
Why is Jimmy Olsen in that picture, anyway?
Not Tim, the comic book character. Or is that... wait, that's not Jim Gordon is it? Nah.
The show might've been good, you know. It might have involved Bruce Wayne getting a swirlie, which is something I've never thought about before now, but it turns out have always wanted to see.
That's the Riddler. The green gives it away.
Going from the left, you have: Clayface, Two-Face, Penguin, Killer Croc, Riddler, Batgirl, Batman, Scarecrow, Catwoman, Joker, Harley Quinn, Poison Ivy, Bane, Mr. Freeze.
I would think that young Bruce Wayne would be unhappy to be in a school composed almost entirely of freaks of nature. Even if Catwoman was there wearing such a short skirt. I imagine his family could afford a private school.
Does he look happy?
Just started Saga of the Swamp Thing. That shit is intense so far.
Quote from: Ideologue on September 23, 2011, 10:38:39 AM
It might have involved Bruce Wayne getting a swirlie, which is something I've never thought about before now, but it turns out have always wanted to see.
Unlikely, he looks like the captain of the football team.
So... Loki is a kid and more or less good now? That's awesome! I want to read me some Thor now! :yeah:
You know how I said the Legion books were awful? I stuck with Fabian Nicieza and Pete (awesome) Woods' Legion Lost, and it got a lot better. It's really beautiful looking, and the story... well, isn't terrible.
I did not stick with the actual Legion of Super-Heroes title. Paul Levitz? Fuck you, old man. It's like Chris Claremont when he came back to the X-Men: utter bullshit.
No!!!
http://geek-news.mtv.com/2012/02/01/dc-announces-before-watchmen-prequel-projects/
That Marvel online subscription (60$/year) is still tempting, but I still have 40+ years worth of Iron Man, Spiderman, Iron Man, X-Men, Thor, Avengers, etc. comics on my HD. :(
Though I'd be happy to entertain suggestions on which bits to skip. I like the origin stories and the introduction of the classic villains, but I know there's quite a lot of dreck in between. E.g. for Punisher I decided to just jump into the Garth Ennis era.
QuoteInherited comic collection expected to fetch $2M
Associated PressBy JAMIE STENGLE | Associated Press – 1 hour 15 minutes ago
DALLAS (AP) — Michael Rorrer said his great aunt once mentioned having comic books she would one day give him and his brother, but it was a passing remark made when they were boys and still into superheroes.
Ruby Wright gave no indication at the time — and she died last February, leaving it unclear — that her late husband's comic collection contained some of the most prized issues ever published. The 345 comics were slated to sell at auction in New York on Wednesday, and were expected to fetch more than $2 million.
Rorrer, 31, of Oxnard, Calif., discovered his great uncle Billy Wright's comics neatly stacked in a basement closet while helping clear out his great aunt's Martinsville, Va., home a few months after her death. He said he thought they were cool but didn't realize until months later how valuable they were.
Rorrer, who works as an operator at a plant where oil is separated from water, said he was telling a co-worker about Captain America No. 2, a 1941 issue in which the hero bursts in on Adolf Hitler, when the co-worker mused that it would be something if he had Action Comics No. 1, in which Superman makes his first appearance.
"I went home and was looking through some of them and there it was," said Rorrer, who then began researching the collection's value in earnest.
He found out that his great uncle had managed as a boy to buy a staggering array of what became the most valuable comic books ever published.
"This is just one of those collections that all the guys in the business think don't exist anymore," said Lon Allen, the managing director of comics for Heritage Auctions, the Dallas-based auction house overseeing the sale.
The collection includes 44 of The Overstreet Comic Book Price Guide's list of top 100 issues from comics' golden age.
"The scope of this collection is, from a historian's perspective, dizzying," said J.C. Vaughn, associate publisher of Overstreet.
Once Rorrer realized how important the comics were, he called his mother, Lisa Hernandez, 54, of League City, Texas, who had divided them into two boxes. She sent one to him and kept the other one at her house for his brother. Rorrer and his mother then went through their boxes, checking comic after comic off the list.
"I couldn't believe what I had sitting there upstairs at my house," Rorrer said.
Hernandez, who works as an operator in a chemical plant, said it really hit her how valuable the comics were when she saw the look on Allen's face after he came to her house to look through the comics she had there.
"It was kind of hard to wrap my head around it," Allen said.
Rorrer said he only remembers his aunt making the fleeting reference to the comics when she learned that he and his brother, Jonathan Rorrer, now 29 of Houston, liked comic books. He said his great uncle, who died in 1994 at age 66, never mentioned his collection.
The Action Comics No. 1 — which Wright bought when he was about 11 — is expected to sell for about $325,000. A Detective Comics No. 27, the 1939 issue that features the first appearance of Batman, is expected to get about $475,000. And the Captain America No. 2 with Hitler on the cover that had caught Rorrer's eye? That's expected to bring in about $100,000.
Allen, who called the collection "jaw-dropping," noted that Wright "seemed to have a knack" for picking up the ones that would be the most valuable and managed to keep them in good condition. The core of his collection is from 1938 to 1941.
Hernandez said it makes sense that her uncle — even as a boy — had a discerning eye. The man who went to The College of William and Mary before having a long career as a chemical engineer for DuPont was smart, she said. And, she added, Wright was an only child whose mother kept most everything he had. She said that they found games from the 1930s that were still in their original boxes.
"There were some really hard to find books that were in really, really great condition," said Paul Litch, the primary grader at Certified Guaranty Company, an independent certification service for comic books.
"You can see it was a real collection," Litch said. "Someone really cared about these and kept them in good shape."
I wish I still had my woody woodpecker comics.
Quote from: Syt on February 11, 2012, 06:13:49 AM
That Marvel online subscription (60$/year) is still tempting, but I still have 40+ years worth of Iron Man, Spiderman, Iron Man, X-Men, Thor, Avengers, etc. comics on my HD. :(
Though I'd be happy to entertain suggestions on which bits to skip. I like the origin stories and the introduction of the classic villains, but I know there's quite a lot of dreck in between. E.g. for Punisher I decided to just jump into the Garth Ennis era.
For Iron Man, make sure you read the ones where Tony Stark is a drunk fuck-up. They're great. Also, the issue of the Avengers where he tries to fuck the Wasp like, the day after Hank Pym goes to jail. It's my favorite Avengers issue ever, even though no one gets punched--it's this weird, melancholy island in a sea of nonsense action adventure. Well, it's not my most favorite, that's either the annual where Adam Warlock dies (OMFG Jim Starlin gets only about 10% of the credit he deserves, son of a bitch is like the fifth best superhero writer of all time, and one of its top twenty or so artists), or the one in volume 3 by Busiek and Perez where Count Nefaria kicks everyone's ass with ion power but is eventually defeated, probably by a speech by Captain America, I don't really remember.
Yeah, I haven't been into the back stacks in a little while. I think I might punch through Legion volume 4 till I get to that delicious era of Keith Giffen where he was working in the nine panel grid and was at the height of his illustrative powers while the Bierbaums were successfully not Paul Levitz. Oh yeah, that's the stuff. Or maybe some Lois Lanes.
I like the one where she marries Mitt Romney.
Moebius (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean_Giraud), French comic artist extraordinaire has died. :(
Examples of his work. (http://www.google.at/search?tbm=isch&hl=de&source=hp&biw=1600&bih=851&q=moebius+comics&gbv=2&oq=moebius+comics&aq=f&aqi=g1&aql=&gs_sm=3&gs_upl=2409l4648l0l4793l14l14l0l5l5l0l82l629l9l9l0&gs_l=img.3..0.2409l4648l0l4793l14l14l0l5l5l0l82l629l9l9l0#hl=de&safe=off&gbv=2&tbm=isch&sa=1&q=moebius+comic&oq=moebius+comic&aq=f&aqi=g2&aql=&gs_sm=3&gs_upl=33212l33716l2l34012l5l5l0l5l5l0l0l0ll0l0&gs_l=img.3..0l2.33212l33716l2l34012l5l5l0l5l5l0l0l0ll0l0&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&fp=26d0a79a5fec657f&biw=1600&bih=851)
Shame. Was a big fan of his strip. :(
Dammit. :(
Quote from: Syt on March 11, 2012, 01:13:11 PM
Moebius (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean_Giraud), French comic artist extraordinaire has died. :(
Examples of his work. (http://www.google.at/search?tbm=isch&hl=de&source=hp&biw=1600&bih=851&q=moebius+comics&gbv=2&oq=moebius+comics&aq=f&aqi=g1&aql=&gs_sm=3&gs_upl=2409l4648l0l4793l14l14l0l5l5l0l82l629l9l9l0&gs_l=img.3..0.2409l4648l0l4793l14l14l0l5l5l0l82l629l9l9l0#hl=de&safe=off&gbv=2&tbm=isch&sa=1&q=moebius+comic&oq=moebius+comic&aq=f&aqi=g2&aql=&gs_sm=3&gs_upl=33212l33716l2l34012l5l5l0l5l5l0l0l0ll0l0&gs_l=img.3..0l2.33212l33716l2l34012l5l5l0l5l5l0l0l0ll0l0&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&fp=26d0a79a5fec657f&biw=1600&bih=851)
One of these days, I need to read some Moebius. Can you believe I never have? And I consider myself cultured. :(
Quote from: Ideologue on March 11, 2012, 01:54:20 PM
Quote from: Syt on March 11, 2012, 01:13:11 PM
Moebius (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean_Giraud), French comic artist extraordinaire has died. :(
Examples of his work. (http://www.google.at/search?tbm=isch&hl=de&source=hp&biw=1600&bih=851&q=moebius+comics&gbv=2&oq=moebius+comics&aq=f&aqi=g1&aql=&gs_sm=3&gs_upl=2409l4648l0l4793l14l14l0l5l5l0l82l629l9l9l0&gs_l=img.3..0.2409l4648l0l4793l14l14l0l5l5l0l82l629l9l9l0#hl=de&safe=off&gbv=2&tbm=isch&sa=1&q=moebius+comic&oq=moebius+comic&aq=f&aqi=g2&aql=&gs_sm=3&gs_upl=33212l33716l2l34012l5l5l0l5l5l0l0l0ll0l0&gs_l=img.3..0l2.33212l33716l2l34012l5l5l0l5l5l0l0l0ll0l0&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&fp=26d0a79a5fec657f&biw=1600&bih=851)
One of these days, I need to read some Moebius. Can you believe I never have? And I consider myself cultured. :(
The Euro take on sci-fi is pretty interesting.
Quote from: Ideologue on March 11, 2012, 01:54:20 PM
Quote from: Syt on March 11, 2012, 01:13:11 PM
Moebius (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean_Giraud), French comic artist extraordinaire has died. :(
Examples of his work. (http://www.google.at/search?tbm=isch&hl=de&source=hp&biw=1600&bih=851&q=moebius+comics&gbv=2&oq=moebius+comics&aq=f&aqi=g1&aql=&gs_sm=3&gs_upl=2409l4648l0l4793l14l14l0l5l5l0l82l629l9l9l0&gs_l=img.3..0.2409l4648l0l4793l14l14l0l5l5l0l82l629l9l9l0#hl=de&safe=off&gbv=2&tbm=isch&sa=1&q=moebius+comic&oq=moebius+comic&aq=f&aqi=g2&aql=&gs_sm=3&gs_upl=33212l33716l2l34012l5l5l0l5l5l0l0l0ll0l0&gs_l=img.3..0l2.33212l33716l2l34012l5l5l0l5l5l0l0l0ll0l0&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&fp=26d0a79a5fec657f&biw=1600&bih=851)
One of these days, I need to read some Moebius. Can you believe I never have? And I consider myself cultured. :(
Clearly you are not mr. zomg transformers the movie is best evah.
Quote from: katmai on March 12, 2012, 11:25:12 AM
Quote from: Ideologue on March 11, 2012, 01:54:20 PM
Quote from: Syt on March 11, 2012, 01:13:11 PM
Moebius (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean_Giraud), French comic artist extraordinaire has died. :(
Examples of his work. (http://www.google.at/search?tbm=isch&hl=de&source=hp&biw=1600&bih=851&q=moebius+comics&gbv=2&oq=moebius+comics&aq=f&aqi=g1&aql=&gs_sm=3&gs_upl=2409l4648l0l4793l14l14l0l5l5l0l82l629l9l9l0&gs_l=img.3..0.2409l4648l0l4793l14l14l0l5l5l0l82l629l9l9l0#hl=de&safe=off&gbv=2&tbm=isch&sa=1&q=moebius+comic&oq=moebius+comic&aq=f&aqi=g2&aql=&gs_sm=3&gs_upl=33212l33716l2l34012l5l5l0l5l5l0l0l0ll0l0&gs_l=img.3..0l2.33212l33716l2l34012l5l5l0l5l5l0l0l0ll0l0&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&fp=26d0a79a5fec657f&biw=1600&bih=851)
One of these days, I need to read some Moebius. Can you believe I never have? And I consider myself cultured. :(
Clearly you are not mr. zomg transformers the movie is best evah.
Ide is Tim? How regretable.
At least he still likes cool comics though.
Quote from: Neil on March 12, 2012, 11:18:06 AM
Quote from: Ideologue on March 11, 2012, 01:54:20 PM
Quote from: Syt on March 11, 2012, 01:13:11 PM
Moebius (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean_Giraud), French comic artist extraordinaire has died. :(
Examples of his work. (http://www.google.at/search?tbm=isch&hl=de&source=hp&biw=1600&bih=851&q=moebius+comics&gbv=2&oq=moebius+comics&aq=f&aqi=g1&aql=&gs_sm=3&gs_upl=2409l4648l0l4793l14l14l0l5l5l0l82l629l9l9l0&gs_l=img.3..0.2409l4648l0l4793l14l14l0l5l5l0l82l629l9l9l0#hl=de&safe=off&gbv=2&tbm=isch&sa=1&q=moebius+comic&oq=moebius+comic&aq=f&aqi=g2&aql=&gs_sm=3&gs_upl=33212l33716l2l34012l5l5l0l5l5l0l0l0ll0l0&gs_l=img.3..0l2.33212l33716l2l34012l5l5l0l5l5l0l0l0ll0l0&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&fp=26d0a79a5fec657f&biw=1600&bih=851)
One of these days, I need to read some Moebius. Can you believe I never have? And I consider myself cultured. :(
The Euro take on sci-fi is pretty interesting.
Personally, I'm very taken with Marvano's (=Belgian) adaptation of
The Forever War that he did together with Haldeman.
Moebius was amazing, loved his work when I was a young teenager and looking for things outside of the superhero books. The Incal and Blueberry still blow me away every time I see the art.
Quote from: Neil on March 12, 2012, 11:29:38 AM
Quote from: katmai on March 12, 2012, 11:25:12 AM
Quote from: Ideologue on March 11, 2012, 01:54:20 PM
Quote from: Syt on March 11, 2012, 01:13:11 PM
Moebius (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean_Giraud), French comic artist extraordinaire has died. :(
Examples of his work. (http://www.google.at/search?tbm=isch&hl=de&source=hp&biw=1600&bih=851&q=moebius+comics&gbv=2&oq=moebius+comics&aq=f&aqi=g1&aql=&gs_sm=3&gs_upl=2409l4648l0l4793l14l14l0l5l5l0l82l629l9l9l0&gs_l=img.3..0.2409l4648l0l4793l14l14l0l5l5l0l82l629l9l9l0#hl=de&safe=off&gbv=2&tbm=isch&sa=1&q=moebius+comic&oq=moebius+comic&aq=f&aqi=g2&aql=&gs_sm=3&gs_upl=33212l33716l2l34012l5l5l0l5l5l0l0l0ll0l0&gs_l=img.3..0l2.33212l33716l2l34012l5l5l0l5l5l0l0l0ll0l0&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&fp=26d0a79a5fec657f&biw=1600&bih=851)
One of these days, I need to read some Moebius. Can you believe I never have? And I consider myself cultured. :(
Clearly you are not mr. zomg transformers the movie is best evah.
Ide is Tim? How regretable.
At least he still likes cool comics though.
Katmai, as is his ethics-free wont, is misrepresenting me. I said Transformers '86 was, perhaps, the best animated movie. That's a defensible position.
I was just thinking, since the Super Soldier Serum was lost can't Steve Rogers go to the Olympics and win like three dozen gold medals? He hasn't taken any banned substance, and they can't test him for the SSS because no one knows what it is (and if anyone did know it would be classified).
Also, given that his likeness was doubtless used in dozens of movies/ads since he went MIA shouldn't he be owed mountains of royalty money?
Quote from: jimmy olsen on March 18, 2012, 11:31:03 PM
I was just thinking, since the Super Soldier Serum was lost can't Steve Rogers go to the Olympics and win like three dozen gold medals? He hasn't taken any banned substance, and they can't test him for the SSS because no one knows what it is (and if anyone did know it would be classified).
Also, given that his likeness was doubtless used in dozens of movies/ads since he went MIA shouldn't he be owed mountains of royalty money?
That would make for a boring movie.
You are thinking of this movie, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_World%27s_Greatest_Athlete (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_World%27s_Greatest_Athlete), which features Jan Michael Vincent's greatest role since before he did Airwolf.
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on March 19, 2012, 05:09:59 PM
Jan Michael Vincent's greatest role since before he did Airwolf.
Even greater than Damnation Alley (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0075909/)? :o
Quote from: Syt on March 19, 2012, 05:15:09 PM
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on March 19, 2012, 05:09:59 PM
Jan Michael Vincent's greatest role since before he did Airwolf.
Even greater than Damnation Alley (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0075909/)? :o
Much. That one belonged solely to Col. Hannibal Smith.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on March 18, 2012, 11:31:03 PM
Also, given that his likeness was doubtless used in dozens of movies/ads since he went MIA shouldn't he be owed mountains of royalty money?
I would imagine that he signed a release when they were using him for war propaganda.
And superhumans are banned from the Olympics, otherwise Thor and the Hulk would win everything.
Quote from: Neil on March 19, 2012, 06:30:17 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on March 18, 2012, 11:31:03 PM
Also, given that his likeness was doubtless used in dozens of movies/ads since he went MIA shouldn't he be owed mountains of royalty money?
I would imagine that he signed a release when they were using him for war propaganda.
And superhumans are banned from the Olympics, otherwise Thor and the Hulk would win everything.
Yeah, but I'm sure his likeness has been used in plenty of movies and ads that were not government issue in the last 70 years.
Thor is a God/Alien and the Hulk, well I don't think he can be considered human anymore. Steve Rogers definitely is.
Giant Man might make things interesting.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on March 19, 2012, 07:52:30 PM
Yeah, but I'm sure his likeness has been used in plenty of movies and ads that were not government issue in the last 70 years.
Maybe, maybe not. Either way, that's the government's problem and not Steve Rogers, because the government owns him.
QuoteThor is a God/Alien and the Hulk, well I don't think he can be considered human anymore. Steve Rogers definitely is.
The Hulk is definitely human.
Quote from: Neil on March 19, 2012, 08:09:09 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on March 19, 2012, 07:52:30 PM
Yeah, but I'm sure his likeness has been used in plenty of movies and ads that were not government issue in the last 70 years.
Maybe, maybe not. Either way, that's the government's problem and not Steve Rogers, because the government owns him.
The government employs him, they don't own him.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on March 19, 2012, 08:14:30 PM
Quote from: Neil on March 19, 2012, 08:09:09 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on March 19, 2012, 07:52:30 PM
Yeah, but I'm sure his likeness has been used in plenty of movies and ads that were not government issue in the last 70 years.
Maybe, maybe not. Either way, that's the government's problem and not Steve Rogers, because the government owns him.
The government employs him, they don't own him.
They own Captain America.
Quote from: Neil on March 19, 2012, 08:25:20 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on March 19, 2012, 08:14:30 PM
Quote from: Neil on March 19, 2012, 08:09:09 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on March 19, 2012, 07:52:30 PM
Yeah, but I'm sure his likeness has been used in plenty of movies and ads that were not government issue in the last 70 years.
Maybe, maybe not. Either way, that's the government's problem and not Steve Rogers, because the government owns him.
The government employs him, they don't own him.
They own Captain America.
They own the copyright of the image, if that's what you're saying.
They don't own Steve Rogers the person.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on March 19, 2012, 08:27:21 PM
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Quote from: jimmy olsen on March 19, 2012, 08:14:30 PM
Quote from: Neil on March 19, 2012, 08:09:09 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on March 19, 2012, 07:52:30 PM
Yeah, but I'm sure his likeness has been used in plenty of movies and ads that were not government issue in the last 70 years.
Maybe, maybe not. Either way, that's the government's problem and not Steve Rogers, because the government owns him.
The government employs him, they don't own him.
They own Captain America.
They own the copyright of the image, if that's what you're saying.
They don't own Steve Rogers the person.
So you agree that Steve Rogers has absolutely nothing coming to him in likeness rights? Good.
Quote from: Neil on March 19, 2012, 08:48:51 PM
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Quote from: Neil on March 19, 2012, 08:09:09 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on March 19, 2012, 07:52:30 PM
Yeah, but I'm sure his likeness has been used in plenty of movies and ads that were not government issue in the last 70 years.
Maybe, maybe not. Either way, that's the government's problem and not Steve Rogers, because the government owns him.
The government employs him, they don't own him.
They own Captain America.
They own the copyright of the image, if that's what you're saying.
They don't own Steve Rogers the person.
So you agree that Steve Rogers has absolutely nothing coming to him in likeness rights? Good.
Maybe, does the US government still maintain copyright on WWII propaganda symbols like Rosie the Riveter, or are they public domain?
EDIT: Also, would he be entitled to 70 years of back pay?
Quote from: jimmy olsen on March 19, 2012, 09:01:01 PM
Quote from: Neil on March 19, 2012, 08:48:51 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on March 19, 2012, 08:27:21 PM
Quote from: Neil on March 19, 2012, 08:25:20 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on March 19, 2012, 08:14:30 PM
Quote from: Neil on March 19, 2012, 08:09:09 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on March 19, 2012, 07:52:30 PM
Yeah, but I'm sure his likeness has been used in plenty of movies and ads that were not government issue in the last 70 years.
Maybe, maybe not. Either way, that's the government's problem and not Steve Rogers, because the government owns him.
The government employs him, they don't own him.
They own Captain America.
They own the copyright of the image, if that's what you're saying.
They don't own Steve Rogers the person.
So you agree that Steve Rogers has absolutely nothing coming to him in likeness rights? Good.
Maybe, does the US government still maintain copyright on WWII propaganda symbols like Rosie the Riveter, or are they public domain?
EDIT: Also, would he be entitled to 70 years of back pay?
Better question: If you launch him on a journey to circumnavigate the universe at an extremely high fraction of lightspeed so that only a few relative decades take place, would he be entitled to the tens of billions of objective years of salary when he got back?
Relativity.
Quote from: Neil on March 19, 2012, 11:17:30 PM
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Quote from: Neil on March 19, 2012, 08:48:51 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on March 19, 2012, 08:27:21 PM
Quote from: Neil on March 19, 2012, 08:25:20 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on March 19, 2012, 08:14:30 PM
Quote from: Neil on March 19, 2012, 08:09:09 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on March 19, 2012, 07:52:30 PM
Yeah, but I'm sure his likeness has been used in plenty of movies and ads that were not government issue in the last 70 years.
Maybe, maybe not. Either way, that's the government's problem and not Steve Rogers, because the government owns him.
The government employs him, they don't own him.
They own Captain America.
They own the copyright of the image, if that's what you're saying.
They don't own Steve Rogers the person.
So you agree that Steve Rogers has absolutely nothing coming to him in likeness rights? Good.
Maybe, does the US government still maintain copyright on WWII propaganda symbols like Rosie the Riveter, or are they public domain?
EDIT: Also, would he be entitled to 70 years of back pay?
Better question: If you launch him on a journey to circumnavigate the universe at an extremely high fraction of lightspeed so that only a few relative decades take place, would he be entitled to the tens of billions of objective years of salary when he got back?
Relativity.
If they're stupid enough to write up a contract without an end date that supplies him with a salary, sure.
I think you'd find a clause that says the Government owns anybody who got the supersoldier treatment.
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on March 20, 2012, 06:46:24 AM
I think you'd find a clause that says the Government owns anybody who got the supersoldier treatment.
Obviously unconstitutional and more importantly unenforceable.
In a world where a single mutant can re-write reality and SHIELD can detain indefinately or shoot people without a warrant I think the Constitution is just window dressing.
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on March 20, 2012, 08:10:26 AM
In a world where a single mutant can re-write reality and SHIELD can detain indefinately or shoot people without a warrant I think the Constitution is just window dressing.
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So Captain America is an anti-democratic tool of The Man to keep the populace in line?
Quote from: Syt on March 21, 2012, 01:34:24 AM
So Captain America is an anti-democratic tool of The Man to keep the populace in line?
How can he be a tool of The Man if he's fighting the government and the press?
He was gunned down after being put in prison like a dog Tim. :(
Tim, in response to your request, I have no idea, although I expect that for the 70 years of clinical death he experienced, Steve Rogers would not be paid.
He was also a government employee. He would not own the Captain America persona (which he didn't even come up with anyway).
I don't know how likenesses are licensed--I know people have an interest in them, but that's as far as I grasp the issue. At a guess, I'd say that as a public and political figure, his likeness could be used like that of Stalin, Roosevelt, or any other historical WWII hero, at least in that capacity, free of charge. E.g. Schwarzenegger had to be paid for Terminator Salvation, but you would not have to pay him for a biopic afaik.
Lol! :lol:
Apparently in the DC reboot they've taken the Amazons deep in the direction of the original myth. They reproduce by sneaking on ships, sexing up the sailors and then killing them. Any male children are basically slaves.
Now this would be fine if Wonder Woman and the Amazons were new creations, but given the 70 years of history as subversion of classical Greek misogyny (and as a feminist icon in general) this has unfortunate implications.
Maybe they should have the Kents come out as former KKK members or have it turn out that the Wayne's were actually secret crime lords. That'll be EDGY and give the heroes some moral ANGST! :rolleyes:
Meh. Don't care.
Quote from: Neil on March 26, 2012, 07:49:00 PM
Meh. Don't care.
Lame.
You could at least be contrary and make an argument on why it's a great change.
Plus, why bother posting if you don't care one way or the other?
So I finally got Waid, Rivera, and Marcos' Daredevil, and it is way fucking sweet.
Although it turns out even Waid is legally ignorant. I don't think I've ever seen rules of evidence or procedure properly applied or even loosely approximated in a comic book. "OBJECTION! COUNSEL IS DAREDEVIL!"
Because apparently this works in the Manhattan Supreme Court, Matt Murdock reorients his law practice to teaching clients how to represent themselves, which is still being a lawyer, just a really lazy one. I guess Foggy still tries cases. I feel bad for Foggy. You know that guy does 90% of fucking everything, Matt basically lives off his generosity, and how does Matt repay him? Constantly berates him for being fat. Maybe Matt's still pissed about that time that Kingpin ruined his life and while he was being drowned in a car pushed off a pier Foggy Nelson was fucking his girlfriend. That was pretty hilarious.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on March 21, 2012, 02:05:56 AM
Quote from: Syt on March 21, 2012, 01:34:24 AM
So Captain America is an anti-democratic tool of The Man to keep the populace in line?
How can he be a tool of The Man if he's fighting the government and the press?
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In the Marvel-verse he fought with the first integrated unit, the Howling Commandos.
As for the 2nd two panels, he came from 1945 not 1645. :rolleyes:
It's pretty funny, although it's the same joke that Chris Burns and company did with their Avengers Assemble parody.
"THE JAPS!"
Quote from: Ideologue on April 02, 2012, 10:47:18 AM
It's pretty funny, although it's the same joke that Chris Burns and company did with their Avengers Assemble parody.
"THE JAPS!"
Link?
www.typeinAvengersAssembleintoYoutube.com.
But some are really great, a couple are mediocre, and one has Stan Lee.
After watching Avengers I started thinking how I would make a Justice League movie franchise.
I'd start with "The Man of Steel", it would be a movie heavily inspired by De'Haven's "It's Superman" and be set in the 1930s. Rather than an alderman Luther would be a billionaire who'd been elected Mayor, and his robots more numerous and a lot more badass. It would be shot in black and white when Kal El is Clark Kent and in color when he's Superman.
There'd be references by characters and meida throughout the film to the Batman in the city of Gotham across the bay. In the end it turns out that the Batman has been keeping an eye on Superman since he arrived in Metropolis, and provides some crucial help in the climax, figuring out how to shut off all the robots rampaging in Metropolis and Gotham and saving Superman from being killed by Luther in a dieselpunk mecha armed with Kryptonite. The movie ends with Luther in jail and Lex Corp is being bought out by Wayne Enterprises.
The after credits scene would involve Darkseid leaving the charred husk of a planet he's laid waste to in his search for the anti-life equation. The next planet on his list is Earth.
Batman and Superman should not inhabit the same universe. Unless your goal is to ruin the Batman movie franchise. Is that your goal, Tim?
Quote from: Kleves on May 05, 2012, 11:24:13 AM
Batman and Superman should not inhabit the same universe. Unless your goal is to ruin the Batman movie franchise. Is that your goal, Tim?
Why not?
They team up all the damn in the comics.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on May 05, 2012, 10:46:57 AM
After watching Avengers I started thinking how I would make a Justice League movie franchise.
I'd start with "The Man of Steel", it would be a movie heavily inspired by De'Haven's "It's Superman" and be set in the 1930s. Rather than an alderman Luther would be a billionaire who'd been elected Mayor, and his robots more numerous and a lot more badass. It would be shot in black and white when Kal El is Clark Kent and in color when he's Superman.
There'd be references by characters and meida throughout the film to the Batman in the city of Gotham across the bay. In the end it turns out that the Batman has been keeping an eye on Superman since he arrived in Metropolis, and provides some crucial help in the climax, figuring out how to shut off all the robots rampaging in Metropolis and Gotham and saving Superman from being killed by Luther in a dieselpunk mecha armed with Kryptonite. The movie ends with Luther in jail and Lex Corp is being bought out by Wayne Enterprises.
The after credits scene would involve Darkseid leaving the charred husk of a planet he's laid waste to in his search for the anti-life equation. The next planet on his list is Earth.
Then Superman shows up and gets rid of all the nuclear weapons and inadvertently creates a super powered nuclear man.
I've been having beers tonight with a dude who draws for Marvel. [/showoff]
Sure he's not just an inker?
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on May 05, 2012, 08:29:57 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on May 05, 2012, 10:46:57 AM
After watching Avengers I started thinking how I would make a Justice League movie franchise.
I'd start with "The Man of Steel", it would be a movie heavily inspired by De'Haven's "It's Superman" and be set in the 1930s. Rather than an alderman Luther would be a billionaire who'd been elected Mayor, and his robots more numerous and a lot more badass. It would be shot in black and white when Kal El is Clark Kent and in color when he's Superman.
There'd be references by characters and meida throughout the film to the Batman in the city of Gotham across the bay. In the end it turns out that the Batman has been keeping an eye on Superman since he arrived in Metropolis, and provides some crucial help in the climax, figuring out how to shut off all the robots rampaging in Metropolis and Gotham and saving Superman from being killed by Luther in a dieselpunk mecha armed with Kryptonite. The movie ends with Luther in jail and Lex Corp is being bought out by Wayne Enterprises.
The after credits scene would involve Darkseid leaving the charred husk of a planet he's laid waste to in his search for the anti-life equation. The next planet on his list is Earth.
Then Superman shows up and gets rid of all the nuclear weapons and inadvertently creates a super powered nuclear man.
:rolleyes: How about you criticize what I wrote instead of going on about random 3rd movie inspired gibberish.
His commentary was that horrible idea for movie was better than the insipid bullshit you wrote. :)
Quote from: katmai on May 05, 2012, 08:59:43 PM
His commentary was that horrible idea for movie was better than the insipid bullshit you wrote. :)
Just saying it's insipid bullshit doesn't mean anything. If you're going to criticize do it in detail. What specifically do you not like and why.
Quote from: katmai on May 05, 2012, 08:54:57 PM
Sure he's not just an inker?
Penciller in a currently ongoing series, Afaik.
Quote from: The Larch on May 05, 2012, 09:07:05 PM
Quote from: katmai on May 05, 2012, 08:54:57 PM
Sure he's not just an inker?
Penciller in a currently ongoing series, Afaik.
I was making a Chasing Amy crack. :P
Quote from: jimmy olsen on May 05, 2012, 09:06:41 PM
Quote from: katmai on May 05, 2012, 08:59:43 PM
His commentary was that horrible idea for movie was better than the insipid bullshit you wrote. :)
Just saying it's insipid bullshit doesn't mean anything. If you're going to criticize do it in detail. What specifically do you not like and why.
The Plot. It's bad in so many ways.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on May 05, 2012, 08:57:59 PM
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on May 05, 2012, 08:29:57 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on May 05, 2012, 10:46:57 AM
After watching Avengers I started thinking how I would make a Justice League movie franchise.
I'd start with "The Man of Steel", it would be a movie heavily inspired by De'Haven's "It's Superman" and be set in the 1930s. Rather than an alderman Luther would be a billionaire who'd been elected Mayor, and his robots more numerous and a lot more badass. It would be shot in black and white when Kal El is Clark Kent and in color when he's Superman.
There'd be references by characters and meida throughout the film to the Batman in the city of Gotham across the bay. In the end it turns out that the Batman has been keeping an eye on Superman since he arrived in Metropolis, and provides some crucial help in the climax, figuring out how to shut off all the robots rampaging in Metropolis and Gotham and saving Superman from being killed by Luther in a dieselpunk mecha armed with Kryptonite. The movie ends with Luther in jail and Lex Corp is being bought out by Wayne Enterprises.
The after credits scene would involve Darkseid leaving the charred husk of a planet he's laid waste to in his search for the anti-life equation. The next planet on his list is Earth.
Then Superman shows up and gets rid of all the nuclear weapons and inadvertently creates a super powered nuclear man.
:rolleyes: How about you criticize what I wrote instead of going on about random 3rd movie inspired gibberish.
It was the fourth movie. :rolleyes:
Quote from: katmai on May 05, 2012, 09:11:05 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on May 05, 2012, 09:06:41 PM
Quote from: katmai on May 05, 2012, 08:59:43 PM
His commentary was that horrible idea for movie was better than the insipid bullshit you wrote. :)
Just saying it's insipid bullshit doesn't mean anything. If you're going to criticize do it in detail. What specifically do you not like and why.
The Plot. It's bad in so many ways.
Aside from the Batman stuff, it's pretty similar to DeHaven's acclaimed book.
Superman's origin story set in the 30s. Luthor is a corrupt politician with robot minions. Superman fights them. Batman helps save the day through his technological genius. Pretty simple and a typical comic book plot.
Well see, i thought the book sucked.
I've said it many times before, Superman is a horrible character to try and make into film and tv.
Quote from: katmai on May 05, 2012, 10:28:13 PM
Well see, i thought the book sucked.
I've said it many times before, Superman is a horrible character to try and make into film and tv.
:ultra:
Even Barrister Boy and his +1 broom of curling would be better than 99% of Superman stories
I'd be more partial to a JSA: The Liberty Files series. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JSA:_The_Liberty_Files
Or a The Golden Age series. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Golden_Age_%28comics%29
I loved both of them and felt they managed to be a part of the DC Universe with interesting concepts. Granted I'm a huge JSA fan, but I think both are quite good on their own merits.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justice_League:_The_New_Frontier (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justice_League:_The_New_Frontier)
Tim, this was the only Justice LEague movie that needed to be made.
Quote from: katmai on May 05, 2012, 10:28:13 PM
Well see, i thought the book sucked.
I've said it many times before, Superman is a horrible character to try and make into film and tv.
well. That's only on account of your crippling mental handicap, isn't it?
Quote from: Ideologue on May 07, 2012, 12:45:51 AM
Quote from: katmai on May 05, 2012, 10:28:13 PM
Well see, i thought the book sucked.
I've said it many times before, Superman is a horrible character to try and make into film and tv.
well. That's only on account of your crippling mental handicap, isn't it?
What do you think of my movie idea?
I liked the part about doing it in the 30s and switching from B+W to color. I dunno about Batman in that milieu. Let alone Darkseid. Remember, the ne 60w gods are creatures of the 1970s. Or maybe late 60s. (it was okay when they showed up in the 2080s tho.p
Quote from: Ideologue on May 07, 2012, 02:23:35 AM
I liked the part about doing it in the 30s and switching from B+W to color. I dunno about Batman in that milieu. Let alone Darkseid. Remember, the ne 60w gods are creatures of the 1970s. Or maybe late 60s. (it was okay when they showed up in the 2080s tho.p
Batman does best in hard times, the 30s are great for him.
There's never a bad time for Darksied. :mad:
Quote from: katmai on May 05, 2012, 08:54:57 PM
Sure he's not just an inker?
He's a fucking tracer!
The New Gods don't work in the 30s.
Been watching Cartoon Network's Justice League and Jesus Christ, Bruce Wayne must be as rich as Rockefeller (1.53% US GDP or $230 billion in 2012). And Luthor's richer than this guy? How?
Austrian economics.
What's the deal with Bruce Wayne's money, anyway? He didn't start the company. His dad didn't start the company, his dad was a surgeon (and surgeons are rich but are they likely to start and run multi-hundred-billion dollar technology/weapons firms?). Maybe he actually inherited it from Martha.
Quote from: NeilThe New Gods don't work in the 30s.
Yeah, what's going to happen? Turns out Hitler, Goering, and Himmler are Darkseid, Granny, and Desaad wearing people suits? Oh God I hope Mark Millar ain't reading this.
Quote from: Ideologue on May 18, 2012, 03:15:09 PM
Austrian economics.
What's the deal with Bruce Wayne's money, anyway? He didn't start the company. His dad didn't start the company, his dad was a surgeon (and surgeons are rich but are they likely to start and run multi-hundred-billion dollar technology/weapons firms?). Maybe he actually inherited it from Martha.
He created the DC equivalent of Facebook?
He probably got Superman to get precious metals from the asteriod belt and invested the monies wisely, then rinced and repeated, then did what David Xanatos did and sent himself back in time to place some gold coins in a vault so that they would later be sold to be the foundation of the Wayne Empire.
Quote from: Syt on May 18, 2012, 04:00:52 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on May 18, 2012, 03:15:09 PM
Austrian economics.
What's the deal with Bruce Wayne's money, anyway? He didn't start the company. His dad didn't start the company, his dad was a surgeon (and surgeons are rich but are they likely to start and run multi-hundred-billion dollar technology/weapons firms?). Maybe he actually inherited it from Martha.
He created the DC equivalent of Facebook?
I dunno, he invented an AI and shot a constellation of satellites into orbit once. I hated that. It's like no one has any idea what things cost, or how supply chains work, or how you can't just build a fucking top-of-the-line stealth airplane in your cave.
His family was into Real Estate, read the comics Hunter you ignorant slut.
I'm sure there are tons of surgeons who form hundred billion dollar real estate empires.
Quote from: Ideologue on May 18, 2012, 10:01:26 PM
I'm sure there are tons of surgeons who form hundred billion dollar real estate empires.
No wonder you can't past the bar. Idiot.
Quote from: Ideologue on May 18, 2012, 09:55:58 PM
Quote from: Syt on May 18, 2012, 04:00:52 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on May 18, 2012, 03:15:09 PM
Austrian economics.
What's the deal with Bruce Wayne's money, anyway? He didn't start the company. His dad didn't start the company, his dad was a surgeon (and surgeons are rich but are they likely to start and run multi-hundred-billion dollar technology/weapons firms?). Maybe he actually inherited it from Martha.
He created the DC equivalent of Facebook?
I dunno, he invented an AI and shot a constellation of satellites into orbit once. I hated that. It's like no one has any idea what things cost, or how supply chains work, or how you can't just build a fucking top-of-the-line stealth airplane in your cave.
In the third episode of Justice League the crew is chilling in the Watch Tower and Super Man asked Batman if his stockholders knew about it.
"It's a line item in the aerospace budget" :bleeding:
Yeah a hundred billion space station that would have taken dozens of launches to assemble even with a Saturn V analogue. No one noticed that. :rolleyes:
And besides being dumb and easily traced, in that instance it's also criminal and tantamount to theft.
There's a lot of reasons I hate Batman, but his misuse of other people's money (sometimes a more conscientious writer will make sure to add it's from his personal fortune, although it's frankly rather unbelievable, even the richest man in the world cannot afford multiple warplanes, let alone Brother Eye) is a huge one. Guess what, Joe Shareholder, Bruce Wayne has defrauded you out of your money for the good of Gotham, if by "for the good of Gotham" you mean "for the purpose of beating up crack dealers you've never even seen and not killing the Joker for the thousandth time."
At least when Iron Man does it, it's in the open so shareholders are aware of the issue, represents a testbed for marketable computer technologies, and serves as great marketing for Stark Enterprises, so it's neither fraud nor so egregious that it wouldn't pass the business judgment rule.
Well, he eventually takes over LexCorp so it's not like the shareholders of Wayne Enterprises are hurting.
It doesn't make it not fraud just because a company is still profitable after the fraud, Tim.
Quote from: Ideologue on May 18, 2012, 11:30:26 PM
It doesn't make it not fraud just because a company is still profitable after the fraud, Tim.
After that merger the company's probably worth a Trillion dollars, nobody'll miss a billion here or a billion there.
Quote from: Ideologue on May 18, 2012, 11:17:14 PM
and not killing the Joker for the thousandth time.
I get that Batman can't kill (apparently viciously beating people unconscious is perfectly safe for their health or maybe it doesn't count if they later die in the hospital) but why can't he cripple the Joker? Why does he always have to return the Joker to prison in such a state that the Joker can heal up and escape within a week? Probably be tougher to escape in a wheelchair with both arms broken. Though then what would Batman do every night?
Here's a Batman story idea for you: Joker hires an army of hemophiliacs and takes over Gotham because Batman really doesn't have any plan B if beating the shit out of people isn't an option.
Quote from: Ideologue on May 18, 2012, 11:17:14 PM
And besides being dumb and easily traced, in that instance it's also criminal and tantamount to theft.
There's a lot of reasons I hate Batman, but his misuse of other people's money (sometimes a more conscientious writer will make sure to add it's from his personal fortune, although it's frankly rather unbelievable, even the richest man in the world cannot afford multiple warplanes, let alone Brother Eye) is a huge one. Guess what, Joe Shareholder, Bruce Wayne has defrauded you out of your money for the good of Gotham, if by "for the good of Gotham" you mean "for the purpose of beating up crack dealers you've never even seen and not killing the Joker for the thousandth time."
At least when Iron Man does it, it's in the open so shareholders are aware of the issue, represents a testbed for marketable computer technologies, and serves as great marketing for Stark Enterprises, so it's neither fraud nor so egregious that it wouldn't pass the business judgment rule.
Batman serves justice, which is more important than law.
Quote from: Kleves on May 19, 2012, 09:50:29 AM
Quote from: Ideologue on May 18, 2012, 11:17:14 PM
and not killing the Joker for the thousandth time.
I get that Batman can't kill (apparently viciously beating people unconscious is perfectly safe for their health or maybe it doesn't count if they later die in the hospital) but why can't he cripple the Joker? Why does he always have to return the Joker to prison in such a state that the Joker can heal up and escape within a week? Probably be tougher to escape in a wheelchair with both arms broken. Though then what would Batman do every night?
Here's a Batman story idea for you: Joker hires an army of hemophiliacs and takes over Gotham because Batman really doesn't have any plan B if beating the shit out of people isn't an option.
:D
Indeed. It's always weird that no-kill vigilantes will routinely inflict brutal trauma to people's skulls with no second thoughts. It's really easy to kill someone that way.
My favorite recent Batman Rule nonsense involves Batwoman, a former West Point student (she got kicked out under DADT) who recently came back to work for the government, in a military/intelligence capacity. Batman demands she doesn't kill.
So the logical conclusion of that is a story where Batman beats the living shit out of any soldier he finds. Actually, I like it. Veterans are a superstitious, cowardly lot. <_<
Quote from: Neil on May 19, 2012, 12:14:27 PM
Batman serves justice, which is more important than law.
How does that work? Masked vigilante leaves some guy tied up on the station doorstep...then what? Even if he leaves iron clad evidence in a box next to him (video/dna/whatever) how is that admissible?
I have no idea if this game was any good but this cinematic is badass. That's what the DC movies should be like!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yR4s15hlA2U&feature=fvwrel
Game is blah.
Just started reading this comic blog linked to from the indefatigable Savage Critics (check those motherfuckers out, Jeff Lester and Graeme McMillan are magic, dudes).
Quote from: Funnybook BabylonYesterday was the fifth anniversary of Countdown #51. Hopefully everyone honored the anniversary in the same way as its creators: by trying to forget that Countdown ever existed.
Indeed, what can be said about Countdown that has not already been said about the Vietnam War?
:lol:
Oh, and also:
Quote from: NewsaramaThis past weekend at the Kapow convention in London, DC Entertainment co-publisher Dan DiDio announced that an existing character previously established as straight would be revealed to be gay in an upcoming storyline. Though there's no still word on exactly which character he was talking about, the resulting media coverage has revealed some clues to help narrow down the list.
*fingers crossed* Let it be Hal Jordan, let it be Hal Jordan, let it be Hal Jordan...
QuoteIf all these indicators prove to be accurate, DC will be revealing that a male character who is both "iconic" and "key," but hasn't yet been seen since last September's New 52 relaunch, is gay
Aw, fuck, nevermind. Who cares? Unless it's Wally West, which would just be retarded.
Meanwhile, on the internet . . .
http://www.marvelheroes.com/
Free to play Diablo 2 clone MMO with Marvel characters.
QuoteThe Cosmic Cube is a device of untold power capable of changing the very fabric of reality at the whim of its possessor. The brilliant but malevolent Dr. Doom has the Cube, and with it he aims to reshape the world in his own image. Determined to succeed where the Cube's previous wielders have failed, Doom has lined up villainous allies to prevent the super-heroes from interfering. Can you unravel Doctor Doom's sinister plan and stop him before it's too late?
Marvel Heroes is a free-to-play MMO Action RPG created by David Brevik, the visionary behind Diablo and a team of industry veterans assembled specifically for this project.
Marvel Heroes combines core gameplay elements of Diablo with the expansive library of characters from the Marvel Universe.
Engage in Action-RPG-style gameplay, but in an MMO world.
Team up online with your friends, or play solo.
Randomly generated environments are different every time you play.
Collect and play as your favorite Marvel Super Heroes including Iron Man, Thor, Black Widow, Captain America, Wolverine, Hulk, and many others.
Choose from a list of fan favorites from the Avengers, X-Men, Fantastic Four, and every corner of the Marvel Universe.
Build your character using a library of spectacular powers appropriate to your hero.
Customize your character with a library of costumes from Marvel's rich history.
Discover an endless variety of gear to increase your hero's power.
Explore the Marvel Universe in a story crafted by comic book super-scribe Brian Michael Bendis.
Visit famous locations from the Marvel Universe, from Avengers Tower to Mutant Town to the Savage Land.
Smash through hordes of iconic Marvel enemies, such as the dreaded Purifiers and the legions of HYDRA.
Face off against dozens of super-villains (soon to be revealed).
And it's all FREE-TO-PLAY with Marvel Heroes!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IeeXO63M4GA&feature=player_embedded
Quote from: Ideologue on May 23, 2012, 01:19:27 AM
Oh, and also:
Quote from: NewsaramaThis past weekend at the Kapow convention in London, DC Entertainment co-publisher Dan DiDio announced that an existing character previously established as straight would be revealed to be gay in an upcoming storyline. Though there's no still word on exactly which character he was talking about, the resulting media coverage has revealed some clues to help narrow down the list.
*fingers crossed* Let it be Hal Jordan, let it be Hal Jordan, let it be Hal Jordan...
QuoteIf all these indicators prove to be accurate, DC will be revealing that a male character who is both "iconic" and "key," but hasn't yet been seen since last September's New 52 relaunch, is gay
Aw, fuck, nevermind. Who cares? Unless it's Wally West, which would just be retarded.
I'm sure no matter who it is, it'll be retarded.
We know it's not one of the Big Seven, so they won't really be that iconic. Probably Booster Gold or Beast Boy or some shit. Maybe the new, crappy, Mexican Blue Beetle. Or Captain Atom, since that would allow them to hit the 'gays in the military' angle too.
Of course, we all know that this is a desperation move by DC after seeing all the press Marvel was getting with the Northstar wedding, and also because everything they've done for the last few years has been terrible. The big reboot alienated their core fanbase, and at the same time their shitty movies (excluding Nolan's Batmans) are convincing casual fans that their superheros are a thousand times shittier than Marvel's B-listers.
Maybe it'll be the Guardian dude, whatisname. Or Nightwing.
I'd be surprised if it were one of the Robins, just because that would make the whole 'Batman and Robin' thing so much worse than it is now. For the same reason (as well as the fact that it would devastate the marketability of the character) Batman is right out.
Its marketing anyway. Doesn't have to be good marketing.
Quote from: Neil on May 23, 2012, 12:57:53 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on May 23, 2012, 01:19:27 AM
Oh, and also:
Quote from: NewsaramaThis past weekend at the Kapow convention in London, DC Entertainment co-publisher Dan DiDio announced that an existing character previously established as straight would be revealed to be gay in an upcoming storyline. Though there's no still word on exactly which character he was talking about, the resulting media coverage has revealed some clues to help narrow down the list.
*fingers crossed* Let it be Hal Jordan, let it be Hal Jordan, let it be Hal Jordan...
QuoteIf all these indicators prove to be accurate, DC will be revealing that a male character who is both "iconic" and "key," but hasn't yet been seen since last September's New 52 relaunch, is gay
Aw, fuck, nevermind. Who cares? Unless it's Wally West, which would just be retarded.
I'm sure no matter who it is, it'll be retarded.
Now, now. If it were Wonder Woman, it'd be 100% sensible. And Pete Ross has been known to watch Superboy undress.
QuoteWe know it's not one of the Big Seven, so they won't really be that iconic. Probably Booster Gold or Beast Boy or some shit. Maybe the new, crappy, Mexican Blue Beetle. Or Captain Atom, since that would allow them to hit the 'gays in the military' angle too.
Well, they already showed up. There isn't an "iconic" character that hasn't shown up since the reboot, unless you twist the definition of that word beyond all recognition--except Wally West, and even that's arguable, since Wally West isn't the icon, and neither is Barry Allen or Jay Garrick or Bart Allen, "The Flash" is.
I guess it could be a villain. Despero: desperate for dick.
QuoteOf course, we all know that this is a desperation move by DC after seeing all the press Marvel was getting with the Northstar wedding, and also because everything they've done for the last few years has been terrible. The big reboot alienated their core fanbase, and at the same time their shitty movies (excluding Nolan's Batmans) are convincing casual fans that their superheros are a thousand times shittier than Marvel's B-listers.
Man of Steel will be good, although I wouldn't exclude Batman Begins. Awful.
But the reboot, if they were going to do it, really needed to be clean. Then again I'm clearly the only person on Earth who feels like Grant Morrison wasted six years of his life on his shitty Batman comics. I wish they'd reboot Morrison and get him back to a point in time where he didn't suck. Maybe right before All-Star Superman, and he can fix it so you don't hope Lois Lane dies every time she opens her mouth.
Quote from: Ideologue on May 23, 2012, 05:47:42 PM
Well, they already showed up. There isn't an "iconic" character that hasn't shown up since the reboot, unless you twist the definition of that word beyond all recognition--except Wally West, and even that's arguable, since Wally West isn't the icon, and neither is Barry Allen or Jay Garrick or Bart Allen, "The Flash" is.
It's Allan Scott. Looks like they went the 'twist' path, since Hal Jordan is the iconic Green Lantern.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on May 18, 2012, 10:24:24 PMIn the third episode of Justice League the crew is chilling in the Watch Tower and Super Man asked Batman if his stockholders knew about it.
"It's a line item in the aerospace budget" :bleeding:
Yeah a hundred billion space station that would have taken dozens of launches to assemble even with a Saturn V analogue. No one noticed that. :rolleyes:
I keep thinking about what would really happen if superman really existed. I keep thinking that the (all of them) government would constantly nag him about him spending so much time nabbing muggers when what he really should be doing is stopping genocides and dictatorships and in his spare time fly satellites, space stations and astronauts into orbit while any time left over should be spend cleaning up space junk.
I can't help but think the argument "If you fly this thing up for us you save us 10,000 man years of police salaries" might actually work.
Because stopping genocides and dicatorships is immoral. Superman is moral.
Quote from: Neil on June 01, 2012, 12:51:44 PM
Because stopping genocides and dicatorships is immoral. Superman is moral.
I hate that fucking endocrinological morality, where you can feign morality if you don't do anything.
Quote from: Viking on June 01, 2012, 12:48:07 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on May 18, 2012, 10:24:24 PMIn the third episode of Justice League the crew is chilling in the Watch Tower and Super Man asked Batman if his stockholders knew about it.
"It's a line item in the aerospace budget" :bleeding:
Yeah a hundred billion space station that would have taken dozens of launches to assemble even with a Saturn V analogue. No one noticed that. :rolleyes:
I keep thinking about what would really happen if superman really existed. I keep thinking that the (all of them) government would constantly nag him about him spending so much time nabbing muggers when what he really should be doing is stopping genocides and dictatorships and in his spare time fly satellites, space stations and astronauts into orbit while any time left over should be spend cleaning up space junk.
I can't help but think the argument "If you fly this thing up for us you save us 10,000 man years of police salaries" might actually work.
Check out Irredeemable.
Quote from: Viking on June 01, 2012, 12:57:40 PM
Quote from: Neil on June 01, 2012, 12:51:44 PM
Because stopping genocides and dicatorships is immoral. Superman is moral.
I hate that fucking endocrinological morality, where you can feign morality if you don't do anything.
And I hate the idea that just because something is unpleasant that it is bad, and that just because you could do something, you must.
Quote from: Neil on June 01, 2012, 01:13:04 PM
Quote from: Viking on June 01, 2012, 12:57:40 PM
Quote from: Neil on June 01, 2012, 12:51:44 PM
Because stopping genocides and dicatorships is immoral. Superman is moral.
I hate that fucking endocrinological morality, where you can feign morality if you don't do anything.
And I hate the idea that just because something is unpleasant that it is bad, and that just because you could do something, you must.
Isn't that the basis behind every superhero?
Quote from: jimmy olsen on June 01, 2012, 10:27:17 PM
Quote from: Neil on June 01, 2012, 01:13:04 PM
Quote from: Viking on June 01, 2012, 12:57:40 PM
Quote from: Neil on June 01, 2012, 12:51:44 PM
Because stopping genocides and dicatorships is immoral. Superman is moral.
I hate that fucking endocrinological morality, where you can feign morality if you don't do anything.
And I hate the idea that just because something is unpleasant that it is bad, and that just because you could do something, you must.
Isn't that the basis behind every superhero?
No.
I like to think that Superman cares, but refuses to give up his personal life--a life that has to be ratcheted down to normal human speed in order to be functional. So while he has the ability to create a crimeless, accident-free quasi-idyllic world, but since he's psychologically human, he'd be lonely and sad doing it, and perhaps eventually lose the human persona which he values, and therefore chooses not to.
Tangentially, this should be the core differentiator between him and Supergirl, since she has no personal life since everybody she knew is dead as an MRF and she really oughn't have any human personality, let alone attachments. But that would actually make Kara Zor-El interesting, and that's unlikely to happen because no one with any particular thoughtfulness has ever actually written a story about Supergirl, at least so far as I can tell, and probably no one ever will. (At least the Silver Age stuff is fun. Joe Kelly, by contrast, is the worst comic book writer on planet Earth.)
I'm not sure that Kryptonians are capable of living completely at high speed, at least psychologically. Remember, they're accustomed to living a very human-like life and they lack superpowers normally. In fact, the one with the most experience with his powers is Superman himself.
Quote from: Neil on June 03, 2012, 12:57:24 AM
I'm not sure that Kryptonians are capable of living completely at high speed, at least psychologically. Remember, they're accustomed to living a very human-like life and they lack superpowers normally. In fact, the one with the most experience with his powers is Superman himself.
It probably wouldn't be good for them, but if the other option is associating with barbarians, they're ultimately going to be lonely and sad anyhow. Superman avoids this only by being socialized as human, so as not to be annoyed by them.
The point is, I thought it was kind of a shame that the most alien Krypton (Byrne's) was also the Krypton only Kal-El made it off of, because writing a survivor (Kara, or Zod, or whoever) as truly alien could have been an interesting concept. Iirc they didn't start bringing back anybody, like Krypto the Terrifying Abomination, till they'd done away with the sexless, posthuman, Possibility of an Island-style Krypton entirely and reasserted the Silver Agey, like-Earth-but-with-more-headbands Krypton.
Yeah, I liked creepy, sexless cold Krypton.
Still, given the Kryptonian tendency to cover themselves with their weird mecha-jumpsuits, it would have been hard for a Kryptonian Kara to show enough skin to be marketable.
Quote from: Neil on June 03, 2012, 02:27:45 PM
Yeah, I liked creepy, sexless cold Krypton.
Still, given the Kryptonian tendency to cover themselves with their weird mecha-jumpsuits, it would have been hard for a Kryptonian Kara to show enough skin to be marketable.
Which is why Supergirl will probably always be uninteresting and, at least since about 1995, an embarrassment. Few people are willing to try anything more ambitious than the Superman one may feel secure masturbating to.
Of course, I haven't followed the relaunch series, because the entire first issue covered roughly what occurred in about three panels' worth in her 1962 introduction, and filled it with Supergirl fighting faceless, nameless guys in armored suits, which is the
best way possible to really grab a reader's attention and keep them hooked.
Anyway, you know what was pretty great? Fabian Nicieza's Legion Lost. Terrible first issue, but everything between 2 and 6 was really good. Pete Woods (of Paul Cornell's Lex Luthor-centric Action Comics run fame, or whatever the analogue is in a medium read by 100,000 people) is probably the second best artist working at DC today, and Nicieza, while not an amazing writer, is still serviceable at his worst and performed at least one spectacular feat: having government agents code name Tyroc "Lenny Kravitz," which is hilarious.
Tom de Falco's writing it now, and the world wonders why. Also apparently Deathstroke's stupid daughter showed up. I skipped that one because it wasn't drawn by Woods and a girl version of Slade Wilson just annoys me for some reason.
I've pretty much checked out of DC. I tried to like them, I really did. But other than Helspont's appearence in a couple issues of Superman, I haven't had much love for them.
I don't blame you, really. Then again, the major alternative is Marvel, whom I doubt can produce anything of quality whatsoever, other than Daredevil, and that's only because Mark Waid is a colossus (and those Hispanic guys are really good artists).
As an aside: I can only imagine how much better the DC relaunch would have been if Mark Waid was in Geoff Johns' or even Dan DiDio's position there. But then Waid has clearly had conversations and interactions with actual humans and used these experiences to make his writing readable and relatable, not to mention has an imagination more comprehensive than a five year old playing with his action figures or an executive looking to add new lines to his marketing spreadsheet, so maybe that's an unfair comparison.
Of the New DC stuff I started reading, the only ones I still care about enough to buy, and even then usually a month later so that it's discounted, are Legion Lost, the Flash, Batwoman, and in each case it is principally for the art (Amy Reeder, while okay, isn't a remotely adequate replacement for J.H. Willaims III on the latter, though; I wish they'd just shut down the series until he could do another five issues, because while I like the story well enough to want to see it, there is this gaping hole where the best comic book artist to ever live should be).
Oh, and I did buy the last Levitz LSH on a whim, and it was okay in the same way that the first issue of that series emphatically was not. It had Dominators in it, kidnapping Legionnaires, it appears, to extract their genes. Because coming up with new shit is evidently rather hard. Nevertheless, it was basically competent and enjoyable.
I also bought a random issue of Morrison's Action. It was really ugly; it was drawn by Andy Kubert, who sucks and who has always sucked, so I have no reason to be disappointed, but I did not know this before I bought it. The story was alright but nothing that special, with a few things that probably seemed cleverer to Morrison than they did to me.
OK I have one more comic review!:
Worlds' Finest. It has Kevin Maguire art, and also George Perez art. It therefore receives an: A+.
It's about the Huntress and Power Girl or something. It's okay, it's got cute moments, it's fun; it's good! I just wish Kevin Maguire was drawing the whole thing. :wub: It's almost impossible to believe that man is like 60. He's probably the only artist I can think of from the 90s who actually grew and developed, even changing his style to become more spare to accommodate the computer coloring revolution,* unlike some people I could name.** Gorgeous stuff and he just does not work enough. I know he's supposed to be kind of slow, but here's the deal, DC: no one gives a shit about slow artists if they're that good. Quit putting bad or mediocre artists on books just to pump out monthly product. The solution to a slow-but-awesome artist is to change the schedule, not the human whose name sells your book. Nor is the solution to make George Perez, a great man, but past his prime, look bad by putting him next to a living god.
Also, putting Dan Jurgens on JLI when Keith Giffen, J.M. de Matteis, and Kevin Maguire still exist and you have money to give them is as bad as the Holocaust. Maybe, actually, a little worse.
*Jae Lee sort of counts. He's grown a lot since 1993 or whenever he did Namor and Youngblood: Strikefile. That said, even as early as Hellshock he was already riding the computer coloring wave. Fun fact: Jae Lee doing superhero work again after a decade in the Stephen King Adaptation Mines is the only interesting and probably only redeeming thing about Before Watchmen. Other than probably making Alan Moore expose himself as an it's-okay-when-I-do-it hypocrite again, which I suppose is worthwhile in itself, but that has nothing to do with the value of the comics themselves.
**Jim Lee. Dude probably crosshatches the shit that falls in his toilet. But that said, you know what I miss? That weird Frank Miller-homage he was doing in Deathblow, decades ago. Whatever happened to that? He should have kept doing that. It was way cool.
You know who's fucking great? Keith Giffen from the 1980s. Hol-ee shit. Reading some old Legion from around the time of the Great Darkness Saga, and it's just really, really beautiful. Giffen makes it look easy, too.
I've read all of the Five Years Later Legion that he drew in the next decade, and it's really pretty too, and in a lot of ways more adventurous, but I dunno, I think I may prefer this, where he was more conventional but pushing a lot of stuff in terms of process and he varied the layouts somewhat more even while using the nine-panel grid as his bedrock (and, it must be said, when his blocking was a little more comprehensible).
Some choice panel sequences from Legion of Super-Heroes, vol. 2, no. 296, cover date February 1983, although if I were going to do a full greatest hits from this issue I'd have at least one panel from every page, and have to transfer most of the pages uncut whatsoever:
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi637.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fuu91%2FMyasishchev%2FGiffenCoolLSH296.jpg&hash=697c7d6dd298443ca426ef5c5fb1452ecc97d469)
Also, Paul Levitz used to be much better at his job. I admit that I included the bit with Colossal Boy and Shrinking Violet less for the art, although it is very fine, than because of the delight to be had from the fact that Colossal Boy refers to his penis as "the big time." That is worth sixty cents all by itself, my friends.
Deadpool game is coming:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=6S2MoeCpvP4
Graphic novel about Trinity Project.
http://www.guernicamag.com/daily/jonathan-fetter-vorm-secrets-in-the-desert/
I took art classes alongside the author. I think I still have one of his art projects at home.
A comic about the atom bomb? That sounds up my alley. :hmm:
Anyway, I read Mark Waid's Superman: Birthright, the second redefinitive retelling of the Superman origin since Crisis on Infinite Earths (and not the last, because Geoff Johns has to put his scent on everything like a wild animal with no regard for how it might smell).
It was pretty good! It's not great. The last scene, however, is fucking heart-rending. I cried. Because I've got a soul.
(The art is okay I guess but Leinil Francis Yu ain't no John Byrne. No sir.)
I liked that Waid's Superman was a vegetarian. :wub:
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I think I also mentioned once that I'm working through a complete set of old Lois Lanes. The Internet's been shitty since the sublessors switched to a new ISP, so I've fallen back on them as entertainment. I probably mentioned before that these things are amazing. I kind of wish they still made comics like this, but I'm not sure anyone even knows how to. And obviously a three dollar price point for wacky bullshit is a little steep anyway.
I am absolutely in love with The Manhattan Projects. Read it.
Quote from: Habbaku on August 05, 2012, 12:36:19 PM
I am absolutely in love with The Manhattan Projects. Read it.
And available digitally. I'm in.
I found an app that will let me read CBR files at work on my phone. :)
Could be slightly problematic with my Superman's Girlfriend and Action sets, since 1960s-style Lois Lane gives me a throbbing erection, but we'll manage.
QuoteJoss Whedon just became a very busy man.
The creator behind Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Angel and Firefly is developing a live-action series featuring Marvel characters for ABC, Disney CEO Bob Iger said on a company earnings call Tuesday, according to Entertainment Weekly.
Iger also announced that Whedon would return to write and direct the upcoming Avengers big-screen sequel. Whedon, 48, wrote and directed the first movie, which brokethe record for largest opening weekend ever ($207 million) in May and has since grossed $1.4 billion at the worldwide box office.
Details are scarce on the possible Marvel TV series, which would be Whedon's first show since Dollhouse got the axe in 2010.
Yikes.
Quote from: Neil on August 07, 2012, 05:21:28 PM
Yikes.
No, now be afraid.....
QuoteIt will take a super director to take on the superhero team movie "Justice League." Variety is reporting that Warner Bros. has approached Ben Affleck to lead the DC comic book project.
Affleck isn't Joss Whedon, the "Buffy the Vampire Slayer" wunderkind who directed the megahit "The Avengers." And he's not Christopher Nolan, who brought back Batman in the "Dark Knight" trilogy's stunning reboot -- and who already said 'no' to a 'Justice League' movie.
But the 39-year-old Affleck is a successful director ("The Town"), an Oscar-winning writer ("Good Will Hunting"), and an actor who even suited up as Superman in the biopic about George Reeves (who played the superhero on TV) in "Hollywoodland."
Ben Affleck's all right.
Anyway, a live-action superhero TV show? We're just not there yet.
I mean, yes, Smallville ran forever, and Lois and Clark was fun, but the former is supposed to be kind of terrible (I have no idea, I've never seen an episode) and the latter was iirc not very wide in its scope. And there are other counterexamples, but I just don't think it'll be worthwhile in 2013 or 14.
I wonder if it's possible to make a good Justice League movie? Green Lantern was just so bad...
Quote from: Neil on August 09, 2012, 02:35:32 PM
I wonder if it's possible to make a good Justice League movie? Green Lantern was just so bad...
The Hulk movies sucked, too, and the character turned out fine in Avengers.
Quote from: Syt on August 09, 2012, 02:52:44 PM
Quote from: Neil on August 09, 2012, 02:35:32 PM
I wonder if it's possible to make a good Justice League movie? Green Lantern was just so bad...
The Hulk movies sucked, too, and the character turned out fine in Avengers.
I liked Incredible Hulk. Edward Norton is boss.
Norton did a decent job.
No, no Justic League movie will be good. Catwoman, many of the Batman movies, Green Lantern... all DC live action movies are generally suck. I wasn't too impressed with the latest Batman for tha tmatter, though I'm glad they didn't destroy Bane like they did with the POison Ivy movie.
Superman Returns was pretty good, despite all the bandwagoning naysayers.
I was bored to tears. The bandwagoning naysayers did not exist, just that a lot of people rightly saw that it sucked.
Quote from: Ideologue on August 09, 2012, 11:41:55 PM
Superman Returns was pretty good, despite all the bandwagoning naysayers.
My wife was furious with that movie.
"He's got a kryptonite blade stuck in him! How can he still fly and lift an island?"
Also, their choice for Lois seemed weird to me. I liked Spacey's Luthor though.
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on August 09, 2012, 03:44:26 PM
Norton did a decent job.
No, no Justic League movie will be good. Catwoman, many of the Batman movies, Green Lantern... all DC live action movies are generally suck.
I'd like to opint out that Superman I and II are the greatest superhero movies of all time. :mad:
Superman Returns did in fact suck, although Spacey was good.
I did say 'generally'. Superman I and II, the two Tim Burton Batmans were all good.
Quote from: Neil on August 10, 2012, 02:32:32 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on August 09, 2012, 11:41:55 PM
Superman Returns was pretty good, despite all the bandwagoning naysayers.
My wife was furious with that movie.
"He's got a kryptonite blade stuck in him! How can he still fly and lift an island?"
That part has the only bit in the movie I really don't like.
Now, I could get past the blade. It's just a little piece. And he's Superman, he's awesome, he fought the pain, and he
did still almost die. And it's not that he lifted the kryptonite island, because the base of the island could have been rock which would've shielded him from the K radiation. No, it's that Singer made the deliberate decision to show the kryptonite coming out of the bottom of the island that got me. I mean, c'mon, don't snap my suspension of disbelief like that. It's uncool.
QuoteAlso, their choice for Lois seemed weird to me.
Indeed. Too young, too small.
QuoteI liked Spacey's Luthor though.
Yes.
The general criticisms seem to revolve around deadbeat dad/bastard-father/angsty Superman. I liked that. It was bold and different. I thought it worked.
Oh, and the complaint that Superman went to Krypton instead of... I have no idea, fighting the supervillains that don't actually exist in the Superman I/II continuity? Running for president? Fucking Lois some more? There's a lot of great reasons to go to Krypton. Archaeology and wanderlust by themselves are perfectly satisfactory reasons for Superman to go to Krypton. But there might also have been technology to salvage there to improve the human condition, or clues to other Kryptonian survivors*, or maybe a completely intact planet**, or even a rebuilt one.***
But in any event, it's silly to assume that the trip was pointless ex ante just because it turned out to be pointless in hindsight.
It's kind of a shame the journey to Krypton was cut--it needed to be edited down, but it's a very beautiful scene.
*Good ideas, like your Argo Cities or Kandors, as well as complete bullshit such as your Kryptos and your Dev-Ems. Seriously, fuck Dev-Em. That guy sucks.
**Iirc all Kal-El knows is what his father, whom nobody believed, told him, and the conspicuous lack of giant fleets of ark ships sort of suggests that either Kryptonians are very stupid and had only one qualified geologist on the planet--unlikely but it turns out it's true--or Jor-El was an insane person with access to a spaceship.
**That crystal shit built a giant castle and gave birth to a new continent--Kal probably knows its general capabilities, and that's not too far removed from knitting a planet back together.
Quote from: Ideologue on August 09, 2012, 01:26:03 AM
Ben Affleck's all right.
Yeah, but in the context of talking about needing a "super director"? To me, that would be somebody like Hitchcock or Kubrick. OK, they're dead, but there are still a bunch of living directors who have more stature (as directors) than Affleck.
Fair enough. I'm not sure whom (other than a few folks who already do them) I would like to see do superhero films.
A Kubrick superhero movie would have been pretty great. Don't know what exactly I'd like him to have done, though. Sandman? That'd have been neat.
Oh! In line with that last not-strictly-superhero-but-with-superhero-elements wish-in-vain, how about David Cronenberg doing The Filth? He's alive, and that shit is right up his back vagina. Fuck yeah.
Quote from: Ideologue on August 12, 2012, 02:01:00 AM
Fair enough. I'm not sure whom (other than a few folks who already do them) I would like to see do superhero films.
I was thinking maybe William Friedkin.
The movie sucked because it was boring. Superman I had a real estate scheme, this one was just a variation on that, with more special effects.
Quote from: Ideologue on August 12, 2012, 02:01:00 AM
Fair enough. I'm not sure whom (other than a few folks who already do them) I would like to see do superhero films.
A Kubrick superhero movie would have been pretty great. Don't know what exactly I'd like him to have done, though. Sandman? That'd have been neat.
Kubrick would have made an awesome
Watchman
:(
http://www.newsarama.com/comics/joe-kubert-passes-away.html
Just bought the complete Outland. :smoke:
Really shouldn't be shelling out cash right now, but I couldn't let it sit there. Berke Breathed. :wub:
This screen in the X-Men animated series made me laugh:
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Yeah, that looks about right.
Just watched X-Men First Class, pretty good even despite its screwing with the timeline.
I've started reading the Dark Horse Conan series. So far I like it (11 issues in). I liked the adaptation of "The God in the Bowl" quite a bit.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on August 18, 2012, 11:50:06 PM
Just watched X-Men First Class, pretty good even despite its screwing with the timeline.
That was the whole point of the film--integrating mutants into the timeline. I though it was exceptionally well-done, though the actress playing Mystique was awful.
Quote from: Habbaku on August 23, 2012, 02:23:25 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on August 18, 2012, 11:50:06 PM
Just watched X-Men First Class, pretty good even despite its screwing with the timeline.
That was the whole point of the film--integrating mutants into the timeline. I though it was exceptionally well-done, though the actress playing Mystique was awful.
I meant the internal timeline of the films. Unless I'm seriously misremembering things than the first three just don't make sense if Professor X and Mystique grew up together.
Ah, gotcha. No, I think the point of First Class was to reboot the series completely. At least, I hope so--though that would make Jackman's cameo strange in terms of continuity.
First Class was made so Sony can keep movie options on the materials. Just like the latest Spiderman movie. Quality is secondary.
I think they did a decent job with Spiderman though.
:lmfao:
http://io9.com/5666301/the-strangest-spider+man-public-service-announcements
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Looks like he could have done well in the construction industry.
Also, love the look on the face of the orphanage attendants.
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Superman's powers have grown over the years.
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on October 09, 2012, 05:58:49 AM
Superman's powers have grown over the years.
Understatement of the year. Frankly, for most stories a more limited Superman like this would be more interesting. His normal godly self makes him just too invincible. To come up with a plausible challenge you need kryptonite (boring), magic (too contrived), or an alien warlord or God. Nothing on Earth can really cut it.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on October 09, 2012, 06:03:20 AM
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on October 09, 2012, 05:58:49 AM
Superman's powers have grown over the years.
Understatement of the year. Frankly, for most stories a more limited Superman like this would be more interesting. His normal godly self makes him just too invincible. To come up with a plausible challenge you need kryptonite (boring), magic (too contrived), or an alien warlord or God. Nothing on Earth can really cut it.
Except parenthood.
This Comic is for Cal
http://www.comicbookgrrrl.com/2011/12/13/comic-review-neonomicon-by-alan-moore-and-jacen-burrows/
Practically the whole damn review is about a rape scene, but yet they don't go into specific details. :(
I mean, it's a rape scene and it's Cthulhu, so I know tentacles were involved, and that's really all I need to know. :bleeding:
Quote from: Caliga on October 17, 2012, 11:56:40 PM
Practically the whole damn review is about a rape scene, but yet they don't go into specific details. :(
I mean, it's a rape scene and it's Cthulhu, so I know tentacles were involved, and that's really all I need to know. :bleeding:
Actually, I think it was a fishman gang rape.
Yo dude did you ever see 'Dagon'? There's a hot Spanish chick in that movie and you get to see her tits. Then her arms get ripped off. :(
Meh, the best fishman rape flick remains Humanoids from the Deep (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humanoids_from_the_Deep). With Doug McClure.
Quote from: Syt on October 18, 2012, 12:20:51 AM
Meh, the best fishman rape flick remains Humanoids from the Deep (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humanoids_from_the_Deep). With Doug McClure.
Troy Mclure would have done better.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on October 18, 2012, 12:01:36 AM
Quote from: Caliga on October 17, 2012, 11:56:40 PM
Practically the whole damn review is about a rape scene, but yet they don't go into specific details. :(
I mean, it's a rape scene and it's Cthulhu, so I know tentacles were involved, and that's really all I need to know. :bleeding:
Actually, I think it was a fishman gang rape.
It was a pretty boring read, in general. The only thing different from what I've seen in the past in other comics is that it lasted longer.
Deadpool Gangnam Style
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xo-tWlETq8w&NR
Costume could be better. Still, this is about the only hero where this would NOT seem out of character. :P
Deadpool. :wub:
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:D
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DC Comics introduces Transgendered character: http://www.wired.com/underwire/2013/04/transgender-dc-comics-batgirl/
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Quote
DC Introduces First Transgender Character in Mainstream Comics
By Laura Hudson
04.10.13
9:30 AM
Once banned from the world of mainstream comic books by the infamous Comics Code Authority, LGBT characters now have a stronger presence in the world of superhero comics than ever before, with gay and lesbian heroes like Batwoman, Northstar and Green Lantern Alan Scott openly declaring who they are — and even getting married. Today, DC Comics told Wired that it will continue to expand the LGBT diversity of its superhero universe by introducing the first openly transgender character in a mainstream superhero comic.
In Batgirl #19, on sale today in both print and digital formats, the character Alysia Yeoh will reveal that she is a transwoman in a conversation with her roommate, Barbara Gordon (aka Batgirl). Taking care to distinguish Yeoh's sexual orientation from her gender identity, Batgirl writer Gail Simone noted that the character is also bisexual.
Simone attributed the inspiration for the character to a conversation she had with fellow comic book writer Greg Rucka several years ago at the Wondercon convention, after a fan asked why there were fewer gay male superheroes than lesbian ones. Rucka, who co-created (and rebooted) Batwoman as a lesbian character, replied that it would be a real sign of change for a gay male character to appear on a comic book cover — and an even bigger step for a transgender character to do the same.
"I looked out into the audience, saw dozens of faces I knew well — LGBTQ folks, mostly — all avid comics readers and superhero fans and DC supporters," said Simone. "And it just hit me: Why was this so impossible? Why in the world can we not do a better job of representation of not just humanity, but also our own loyal audience?"
Simone suggested the story to DC Comics Co-Publisher Dan DiDio at lunch one day, prepared to offer a passionate defense for the idea of a transgender character. "I thought I might have to sell it, so to speak," said Simone. "But he just paused for a moment, asked how this would affect Barbara's story, and immediately approved it. And we went back to our excellent nachos."
Still, Simone believes that diversity isn't just a continuing issue for superhero comics: "It's the issue for superhero comics. Look, we have a problem most media don't have, which is that almost all the tentpoles we build our industry upon were created over a half century ago... at a time where the characters were almost without exception white, cis-gendered, straight, on and on. It's fine — it's great that people love those characters. But if we only build around them, then we look like an episode of The Andy Griffith Show for all eternity."
She added that she thinks most superhero comics readers don't have a problem with increased diversity, but rather with stories that promote sermonizing over storytelling. Alysia will be "a character, not a public service announcement ... being trans is just part of her story. If someone loved her before, and doesn't love her after, well — that's a shame, but we can't let that kind of thinking keep comics in the 1950s forever."
Although Alysia Yeoh may be the first ongoing transgender character in a mainstream superhero book, Simone notes that there have been transgender characters before in independent comics and mature readers titles; and even in the Marvel and DC superhero universes, several characters have achieved gender-fluidity through fantastical means like magic, shape-shifting, brain-swapping, and cloning. "Those characters exist [and] that's great, but I wanted to have trans characters who aren't fantasy-based. And I feel like there's a lot there yet to do."
To that end, Simone says she will add another transgender character to a different comic that she's writing — though she can't talk about which one. "It's time for a trans hero in a mainstream comic. I think it's time to make that thing happen that Greg [Rucka] mentioned years ago. And it's going to happen ... I'm sure it's controversial on some level to some people, but honest to God, I just could not care less about that. If someone gets upset, so be it; there are a thousand other comics out there for those people."
that depends, is batgirl's room-mate gonna get the same treatment as Alan Scott's partner got in Earth 2?
I'm inclined not to think so since Gail Simone is the original author of the Women in Refrigerators list.
Ewww.
Tacky attention grabbing hacks.
Yes we know all about Neil, but what do you think about the story wags.
How the hell is that the first transgendered character in mainstream comics? Shvaughn Erin?* Desire of the Endless? Wanda from A Game of You? Dr. Occult? Lord Fanny? Hello? 1992 calling.
Also, I'm trying to parse that page for her response being germane whatsoever. "THE JOKER SHOT ME IN THE SPINE AND IN THE INTERVENING YEARS THE BATMAN WRITERS RAN OUT OF IDEAS AND SO MY BROTHER WHOM I DON'T THINK HAS EVEN BEEN OTHERWISE MENTIONED SINCE YEAR ONE IS TRYING TO KILL YOU." "Yeah? Well, I was born a guy."
*Sure, it was handled reather weirdly, if somewhat poignantly, but not in the way gender dysphoria works, like, at all--but the Bierbaums and Giffen were totally trying. And sure, they also don't deal with this anymore, because Geoff Johns hates all minorities, which is why he dressed up John Stewart in purple fatigues. Probably Paul Levitz also, which is why we don't see Tyroc yell at white people nearly as much as we should.
Desire isn't some kind of freak. He/she doesn't really have a gender.
Quoteafter a fan asked why there were fewer gay male superheroes than lesbian ones.
Cause most of the readers are heterosexual males. Duh.
The invasion in Avengers apparently caused $150-160 Billion in damages.
http://hurricane.methaz.org/avengers_estimate.pdf
Quote from: Neil on April 11, 2013, 10:08:08 PM
Desire isn't some kind of freak. He/she doesn't really have a gender.
Desire fathered a child. It fucked Rose Walker's grandmother somehow or another.
Quote from: Ideologue on April 11, 2013, 08:40:57 PM
Also, I'm trying to parse that page for her response being germane whatsoever. "THE JOKER SHOT ME IN THE SPINE AND IN THE INTERVENING YEARS THE BATMAN WRITERS RAN OUT OF IDEAS AND SO MY BROTHER WHOM I DON'T THINK HAS EVEN BEEN OTHERWISE MENTIONED SINCE YEAR ONE IS TRYING TO KILL YOU." "Yeah? Well, I was born a guy."
I was actually thinking "Hey my roomie who has shared a bathroom with me for at least a year is TG. I think I may leave the detective thing to the broody guys."
Quote from: Ideologue on April 12, 2013, 06:11:14 AM
Quote from: Neil on April 11, 2013, 10:08:08 PM
Desire isn't some kind of freak. He/she doesn't really have a gender.
Desire fathered a child. It fucked Rose Walker's grandmother somehow or another.
It's also something very much like a god and not at all a person.
Quote from: Ideologue on April 11, 2013, 08:40:57 PM
Also, I'm trying to parse that page for her response being germane whatsoever. "THE JOKER SHOT ME IN THE SPINE AND IN THE INTERVENING YEARS THE BATMAN WRITERS RAN OUT OF IDEAS AND SO MY BROTHER WHOM I DON'T THINK HAS EVEN BEEN OTHERWISE MENTIONED SINCE YEAR ONE IS TRYING TO KILL YOU." "Yeah? Well, I was born a guy."
It is a gimmick. Therefore they don't need to put a lot of effort into it.
What the...is this true Ide?
http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3534271&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=31#post413921635
QuoteCoincidentally, it's said that when Barry died, he ran so fast that he turned into a bolt of lightning that went back in time and zapped himself to give him superpowers.
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on April 12, 2013, 07:28:53 AM
Quote from: Ideologue on April 11, 2013, 08:40:57 PM
Also, I'm trying to parse that page for her response being germane whatsoever. "THE JOKER SHOT ME IN THE SPINE AND IN THE INTERVENING YEARS THE BATMAN WRITERS RAN OUT OF IDEAS AND SO MY BROTHER WHOM I DON'T THINK HAS EVEN BEEN OTHERWISE MENTIONED SINCE YEAR ONE IS TRYING TO KILL YOU." "Yeah? Well, I was born a guy."
It is a gimmick. Therefore they don't need to put a lot of effort into it.
Isn't that pretty much true of everything DC and Marvel do nowdays?
Quote from: jimmy olsen on April 13, 2013, 04:26:13 AM
What the...is this true Ide?
http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3534271&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=31#post413921635
QuoteCoincidentally, it's said that when Barry died, he ran so fast that he turned into a bolt of lightning that went back in time and zapped himself to give him superpowers.
Yes. I've got the book in my Flash collection at home
so I can't tell you the issue (it's a short piece in an annual, maybe no. 2
of vol. 2?), but I can tell you it's pretty rad. I believe it's apocryphal however,
Following the Waid/Augustyn revamps to the Flashes' powers.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on April 13, 2013, 04:26:13 AM
What the...is this true Ide?
http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3534271&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=31#post413921635
QuoteCoincidentally, it's said that when Barry died, he ran so fast that he turned into a bolt of lightning that went back in time and zapped himself to give him superpowers.
No. Flash doesn't exist.
:D
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Patton Oswalt's idea for SW EP VII (http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=5BBhNkywMJY&feature=youtu.be&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D5BBhNkywMJY%26feature%3Dyoutu.be)
QuoteThe blogosphere is going wild as Marvel chief Kevin Feige does interviews for Iron Man 3 and acknowledges that Daredevil has returned to the Marvel fold at Disney. We told you this was going to happen last August, when a last ditch attempt to shape a movie with Joe Carnahan cratered. Ben Affleck starred in the original film, and he's doing way more interesting things now as a writer/director/actor/producer. Without him, it was pretty clear that Fox wasn't confident about bankrolling a superhero-sized movie based on the character and that the brass at the studio wasn't at all upset about coming out on the losing end of the witching hour of when Marvel and Disney got back those rights. The intrigue will be to see if Marvel vamps the blind lawyer character, and whether he begins showing up in other superhero movies and maybe a sequel to The Avengers. They certainly have made The Hulk viable after he was pretty much thought to be dead as disco
Quote from: katmai on April 23, 2013, 04:10:17 PM
QuoteThe blogosphere is going wild as Marvel chief Kevin Feige does interviews for Iron Man 3 and acknowledges that Daredevil has returned to the Marvel fold at Disney. We told you this was going to happen last August, when a last ditch attempt to shape a movie with Joe Carnahan cratered. Ben Affleck starred in the original film, and he's doing way more interesting things now as a writer/director/actor/producer. Without him, it was pretty clear that Fox wasn't confident about bankrolling a superhero-sized movie based on the character and that the brass at the studio wasn't at all upset about coming out on the losing end of the witching hour of when Marvel and Disney got back those rights. The intrigue will be to see if Marvel vamps the blind lawyer character, and whether he begins showing up in other superhero movies and maybe a sequel to The Avengers. They certainly have made The Hulk viable after he was pretty much thought to be dead as disco
Daredevil is my favorite Marvel character. I like the new Matt Murdock almost as much as the one from the '80s. I like the person, his personality, his values and most importantly I like the power-set. The power set permits exposition, which is probably the most important suspension of disbelief there is and in battle daredevil wins by being more experience at the asymetric nature of his powers rather than the strength of his powers. Another exceptionally good recurring factor with DD is the team-ups with other new-york based heroes against kingpin and his minions, it allowed DD to face more powerful and more dangerous foes with backup so returning to the mundanes ones later wasn't really a let down.
Plus DD gave us Stilt-Man the least evil of all supervillans and the unit definition for "Vader" as the unit of measure for evil.
I did like the movie, but I liked it in the same way I liked mission impossible. It was a good action flick with a name tagged onto it. The hero/villains/love interest were generic and not consistent with the tropes of the character.
Man of Steel looks so fucking great, I can't wait. I don't think I've awaited a comic book movie like this since Spiderman 2.
Keith Giffen in the 80s: great artist or greatest artist?
And while we're on the subject of the Legion, WTF is the deal with Cosmic King? Why does he dress like Cosmic Boy? Saturn Queen: she's a Titanian, the naming similarity with Saturn Girl is either coincidence based on shared ancestry or a deliberate mirror. Lightning Lord: Lightning Lad and Lightning Lass's brother, and all three have lightning powers granted by the lightning beasts of Korbal. Cosmic King: a Venusian who got hit with a fucking transmutation ray that essentially gave him Tromian powers, whereas Cosmic Boy is a Braalian with magnetic powers, who as far as I know never even met Cosmic King before they started having superhero/supervillain fights. Did the other two just make him conform to their zany negative Legion theme? Does that make him intensely lame, and explain why no one has given a shit about Cosmic King, ever? Probably.
But here's a more fun Legion question: who's luckier, Colossal Boy, who has a shape-changing wife, or Bouncing Boy, who has two twin wives? All things being equal, obviously Colossal Boy; but all things are not equal, so I say Bouncing Boy, because he found the only attractive woman in the galaxy with a fetish for mordbidly obese morons that chug down full bottles of experimental serum, and who coincidentally could also split into multiple women to service his bulk. Gross.
So, the long run of Geoff Johns on Green Lantern has ended. On the one hand, it had fallen off a little bit, but it was still pretty much all DC had going for it.
And yes, Giffen was really good Ide.
GOOD GOD I CAN'T REMEMBER BEING SO HYPED FOR A MOIVE!!!!!!!111111111
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlOF03DUoWc
What about a movie?
Meh. Not terribly interested. Last two Superman movies sucked. For that matter the last Batman movie was boring.
I thought it looked good, but Tim might just have ruined it.
Saw it.
The dialogue was sparse, the story straightforward and simple and moved at a tremendous speed. Nonetheless this was one of the most ambitious science fiction movies I've ever seen and the action was absolutely jaw dropping.
I definitely recommend it.
There is one moment in particular that will cause purists to froth at the mouth.
The tornado?
I haven't see it yet but was partially spoiled about this, so don't give details.
I was thinking of something else.
So Ide, what do you want to see from the sequel to Man of Steel?
I think it would be a great twist if they have Lex not be evil, or at least as unevil as billionare business titan can be. ;)
They way I would do it is play up Lex as a Steve Jobseque antihero/fanatic with good intentions. With all the collateral damage we saw, a fear of Superman, even if you know he has good intentions is well founded. They could also make it more personal with Lex's wife, parents or children dying in the attack.
Have Lex rebuild Metropolis, and where Wayne struggles to rebuild Gotham, have him succeed magnificently, creating a shinning city on a hill. In the process he becomes even richer and more politically powerful.
The government salvaged lots of Kryptonian technology, have LexCorp get contracts on reverse engineering it, particularly the armor, weapons and artificial intelligence...
Lex builds an android he calls Brainiac which he plans to use against Superman if he ever gets out of hand, but the android is compelled by deeply embedded Kryptonian programing to follow Zod's last orders and destroy the human race.
Lex and Superman have to cooperate together to figure out a way to destroy without causing too much collateral damage.
At the end they're successful but Lex's mind hasn't changed (though the minds of many others who supported Lex have) and its still clear that he's plotting against him, sliding into a more unethical direction.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on June 12, 2013, 05:46:42 AM
GOOD GOD I CAN'T REMEMBER BEING SO HYPED FOR A MOIVE!!!!!!!111111111
Amnesia?
Quote from: Ideologue on April 11, 2013, 08:40:57 PM
How the hell is that the first transgendered character in mainstream comics? Shvaughn Erin?* Desire of the Endless? Wanda from A Game of You?
I really wouldn't consider Desire and Wanda mainstream comic book characters. Most of the comic readers I talk to are very meh on The Sandman series.
Besides, when you're thinking *main stream* comics you think of Marvel or DC. Justice League or the Avengers. Mainstream is the general public and not a niche in comic book history. When's the last time you heard someone mention Desire of the Endless?
Quote from: Neil on April 11, 2013, 10:08:08 PM
Desire isn't some kind of freak. He/she doesn't really have a gender.
Also this.
Not that transgendered folk are freaks.
Quote from: Ideologue on April 25, 2013, 10:52:17 PM
Keith Giffen in the 80s: great artist or greatest artist?
Are you as excited about Justice League 3000 as I am?
http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=46132
Metropolis! :weep:
America will never forget! Vote Lex!
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Quote from: Korea on June 19, 2013, 01:00:45 AM
Quote from: Ideologue on April 11, 2013, 08:40:57 PM
How the hell is that the first transgendered character in mainstream comics? Shvaughn Erin?* Desire of the Endless? Wanda from A Game of You?
I really wouldn't consider Desire and Wanda mainstream comic book characters. Most of the comic readers I talk to are very meh on The Sandman series.
Besides, when you're thinking *main stream* comics you think of Marvel or DC. Justice League or the Avengers. Mainstream is the general public and not a niche in comic book history. When's the last time you heard someone mention Desire of the Endless?
Really? Fifteen years ago, Sandman was the best thing since sliced bread. But perhaps it was a factor of the time period. Sandman certainly has gothic elements that don't translate especially well for today's youth.
I think the main stream is starting to spread out a bit, partly because of graphic novels, partly because of some properties emerging from minor leagues and getting movies and TV shows made for them, and partly because of decline sales figures for the Big Two. Mind you, that might just be wishful thinking because of my disgust at how Marvel and DC's more recent offerings. Flashpoint pretty much ruined DC as a brand for me, and AvX was pretty weak.
http://www.theatlanticwire.com/entertainment/2013/07/what-your-favorite-superhero-says-about-you/67446/
QuoteWhat Your Favorite Superhero Says About You
And whom we root for unsurprisingly says something about our own non-superhero selves.
Superman: You don't believe in underdogs. Cheering for Kal-El is sort of like rooting for Duke or the Miami Heat—you like the very best and don't like to be on the losing team. You are probably the firstborn and are a bit of an overachiever, so you're used to setting the example and handling the pressure that comes with it. You have probably enabled "god mode" in a video game or cheated on your golf score at some point. You're loyal to a fault, or at least like loyal people. You're also an optimist and see the good in all, despite what Batman fans says about you.
Batman: Do you secretly enjoy watching Superman (and his fan base) getting his (or their) butt(s) kicked? Yes. You like your heroes damaged, because perfection is silly. If everything were perfect, then why even bother making comic books? You're a realist with a pessimistic bent. You've seen the worst and know that you need to see the ugly side of things to appreciate life fully. You may also be a Mets fan.
Wonder Woman: Practicality means nothing to you, which is why you root for an Amazonian with indestructible bracelets and a lasso of truth. You were kind of hurt when writers gave Diana Prince the power of flight because you knew that it would mean she'd be giving up her invisible plane. Like Superman fans, you're also an optimist, but you also know that people will and can be jerks. For example, the guys who just think Wonder Woman is hot.
Green Arrow: You liked archery before The Hunger Games and Hawkeye made it cool.
Green Lantern: You aren't a fan of Ryan Reynolds. You have a pair of green pants.
The Flash: Swingers is your favorite movie, and you've long argued over beers that Vince Vaughn would make a great Flash if he weren't so big and lumbering. You like slick talkers and fast walkers. You're probably a big Ryan Reynolds fan.
Damian Wayne: You're not-all-that-secretly hoping the royal baby is the anti-Christ.
Aquaman: You were a swimmer in high school who always felt out of place. Your natural habitat was in the water, away from people, and especially your teammates.
Martian Manhunter: Weird, stoic dudes who occasionally go off the deep end do it for you. You probably still listen to a lot of Fall Out Boy, too.
Robin: You have a small man's complex. You think the littler guys deserve more credit, and you're always more interested in the the supporting acting Oscars than the big wigs fancy pants main players. You like Scottie Pippen and Pau Gasol.
Captain America: See Superman fans.
Spider-Man: You love a good underdog story and might have been bullied as a kid. Now you're probably 30, drive a Porsche, have an awesome boyfriend/girlfriend, and live in Manhattan. The kids who beat you up aren't faring as well, and you probably spend a lot of time un-friending them on Facebook.
Ironman: You are the life of the party, and like your heroes to have a little bit of fun. You may also be an early adopter an Apple fanboy.
Hawkeye: You liked archery before Green Arrow and The Hunger Games made it cool.
Cyclops: You like penis jokes, but won't laugh at them in public.
Wolverine: You are probably the shortest person in your family, which your taller family members reminded you of every day. You don't deal well with authority and are completely fine with starting fights, just as long as you can end them. You also like things that aren't yours.
Emma Frost: Love you or hate you, you just don't want to be ignored. You prefer blondes over redheads. You also watched a lot of Mean Girls and probably thought Regina George was the hero and that Cady Heron should've been the one struck by the bus. You are probably enjoying Lindsay Lohan's fall from grace a little too much. You like someone to tell it like it is, preferably with a bit of snark and wit. The Avengers' boys-club-fraternity kinda makes you want to barf, but you have too much class to do that.
Gambit: You've tried to throw cards before or at least YouTubed it. You've probably also shoplifted.
Colossus: You are noble. You have terrible siblings who you'd risk your life for. You might also like Thor, though Colossus is way cooler.
Rogue: You like potlucks. You and your mother have a difficult relationship.
Psylocke: You relish a good backstory. You adore psychics, ninjas and psychic ninjas. You, my friend, are a Psylocke fan. Simple things and simple people bore you. Once you've got them figured out, there's no reason to go back, right? And let's be honest, you're not even sure how much or how little telekinesis Psylocke still possesses, which is the beauty of being a Psylocke fan.
The Hulk: There's beauty in simplicity, and that's how you like your heroes. You read Wikipedia entries of movies you don't see. People can't get to the point fast enough.
Storm: You might be a little gay. Or, at the very least, you like your superhero tales dripping in drama. Storm has a flair for the dramatic. So do her fans. In your world, winds don't blow—they swirl with the cold fury of Arctic gales. And when Storm kicks butt, she kicks it with the full force of the hurricane. You probably also like Greek mythology and RuPaul, or liked that one commercial RuPaul had envisioning herself and her drag queens as greek goddesses.
Dazzler: Your best "friend" is a Storm fan.
Jean Grey: No one actually likes Jean Grey. People who say they are big Jean Grey fans can't be trusted.
Odd though I like the Dazzler one.
Just because Cyclops is repressed doesn't mean that I am.
Quote from: Neil on July 24, 2013, 12:16:31 PM
Just because Cyclops is repressed doesn't mean that I am.
As a kid, I really liked Rogue. I've never liked potlucks nor is my relationship with my mother strained. :(
Quote from: garbon on July 24, 2013, 10:28:40 AM
Superman: You don't believe in underdogs. Cheering for Kal-El is sort of like rooting for Duke or the Miami Heat—you like the very best and don't like to be on the losing team. You are probably the firstborn and are a bit of an overachiever, so you're used to setting the example and handling the pressure that comes with it. You have probably enabled "god mode" in a video game or cheated on your golf score at some point. You're loyal to a fault, or at least like loyal people. You're also an optimist and see the good in all, despite what Batman fans says about you.
Says you. :mad:
Quote from: Neil on June 19, 2013, 10:24:29 AM
Quote from: Korea on June 19, 2013, 01:00:45 AM
Quote from: Ideologue on April 11, 2013, 08:40:57 PM
How the hell is that the first transgendered character in mainstream comics? Shvaughn Erin?* Desire of the Endless? Wanda from A Game of You?
I really wouldn't consider Desire and Wanda mainstream comic book characters. Most of the comic readers I talk to are very meh on The Sandman series.
Besides, when you're thinking *main stream* comics you think of Marvel or DC. Justice League or the Avengers. Mainstream is the general public and not a niche in comic book history. When's the last time you heard someone mention Desire of the Endless?
Really? Fifteen years ago, Sandman was the best thing since sliced bread.
Indeed it was. In the sense that
any comics were mainstream, Sandman was that mainstream. There's people of a certain age for whom Sandman was as culturally preeminent as August and Everything After or The X-Files.
In any event, a throwaway character in some lousy sub-satellite Batman comic is not more mainstream than 1990s biggest comics phenomenon. I guess I could look up sales figures and the raw monthly numbers would suggest otherwise, but factor in TPBs and I'd guesstimate more than ten million people have read all of Sandman, probably thirty or forty million who've read some. The same can be said for vanishly few straight-up* superhero books in the 90s, probably only Claremont and Lee's last days on X-Men and Jurgens et al's Death of Superman.
*Morpheus being a superhero himself, especially early on, though Gaiman took the series down avenues unconventional for a superhero book.
P.S. Korea, Sandman was totally DC. Remember when he hung out with Scott Free and J'Onn J'Onzz and fought a giant battle with Dr. Destiny? That happened. It can't unhappen. See also Destiny, Lyta Hall, Cain, Abel, and Matthew "the Raven" Cable, all major characters who each were created by others and had previously inhabited the shared DC universe.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on June 16, 2013, 02:47:11 AM
So Ide, what do you want to see from the sequel to Man of Steel?
I think it would be a great twist if they have Lex not be evil, or at least as unevil as billionare business titan can be. ;)
They way I would do it is play up Lex as a Steve Jobseque antihero/fanatic with good intentions. With all the collateral damage we saw, a fear of Superman, even if you know he has good intentions is well founded. They could also make it more personal with Lex's wife, parents or children dying in the attack.
Have Lex rebuild Metropolis, and where Wayne struggles to rebuild Gotham, have him succeed magnificently, creating a shinning city on a hill. In the process he becomes even richer and more politically powerful.
The government salvaged lots of Kryptonian technology, have LexCorp get contracts on reverse engineering it, particularly the armor, weapons and artificial intelligence...
Lex builds an android he calls Brainiac which he plans to use against Superman if he ever gets out of hand, but the android is compelled by deeply embedded Kryptonian programing to follow Zod's last orders and destroy the human race.
Didn't mean to ignore you Tim, but I didn't see this last month. However, I've gotta stop you right there.
No Coluan origin to Brainiac? I'm not having it.
:D
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Big deal. Sir Prize and Miss Terious will save the day.
Quote from: garbon on July 24, 2013, 10:28:40 AM
Batman: Do you secretly enjoy watching Superman (and his fan base) getting his (or their) butt(s) kicked? Yes. You like your heroes damaged, because perfection is silly. If everything were perfect, then why even bother making comic books? You're a realist with a pessimistic bent. You've seen the worst and know that you need to see the ugly side of things to appreciate life fully. You may also be a Mets fan.
Hell no.
Reading up on some old Marvel comics and came across this. Love the caption box on this one. :lol:
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What an asshole.
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It's his lunch break.
There's a whole website full of covers like that.
Ye olde Superdickery, yes.
Those comics are usually pretty awesome, too. They just don't make 'em like that anymore. But my full set of Action Comics and Lois Lanes will keep me warm in this long, dark twilight of the medium.
I recently re-read Preacher. It's been more than 5 years since I'd last read it, so some things were dim in my memory.
I'm still a bit torn on the comic. On the one hand you have a good drama with compelling characters with believable motivations and emotions and some great conflicts between them. The supposed main plot (why did God abandon his creation) falls a bit by the wayside for long stretches, but that's not really an issue as the plot delves into each main actor's back story and what made them what they are. Most plot threads get tied up neatly at the end, so that's also a plus.
At the same time, there's a lot of silliness going on that doesn't quite fit the drama that's unfolding for the characters. There's commentary on current society (like Arseface's rise and fall), and some cartoonishness (Odin Quincannon, the French horse thief, Herr Starr's escalating humiliation and mutilation ...) that are jarring an otherwise brilliant tale.
Transmetropolitan similarly mixed up a serious story and some somber messages with cartoonish silliness, but it did so in a far less real setting (the crazy, weird future that's still somewhat plausible).
My favorite character? Cassidy, hands down. I'm a sucker for the tragic figure who pretty much destroys a good thing he has and finally finds redemption at the end.
I'm making my way through Judge Dredd: The Complete Case Files. I came when Dredd [spoiler]nuked East-Meg 1[/spoiler].
My kid is starting to get into comic books.
So far, his favorite are Asterix and Bone (he found the first volume of Bone in his school class library and begged me to buy him the other eight).
To get a really solid grounding in the medium, I think he should read Watchmen, and if he likes it, From Hell.
Quote from: Malthus on October 15, 2013, 04:21:55 PM
My kid is starting to get into comic books.
So far, his favorite are Asterix and Bone (he found the first volume of Bone in his school class library and begged me to buy him the other eight).
If he likes Asterix, check if there's an English translation of Les Tuniques Bleus about the American Civil War. Those two were the comics that got me interested in history.
Quote from: Ideologue on October 15, 2013, 04:27:02 PM
To get a really solid grounding in the medium, I think he should read Watchmen, and if he likes it, From Hell.
:lol: He's like 5
75th Anniversary Superman Short :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebXB0lBoaQ0
Quote from: jimmy olsen on October 15, 2013, 10:48:18 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on October 15, 2013, 04:27:02 PM
To get a really solid grounding in the medium, I think he should read Watchmen, and if he likes it, From Hell.
:lol: He's like 5
I know. :P
Quote from: Syt on October 15, 2013, 10:43:16 PM
Quote from: Malthus on October 15, 2013, 04:21:55 PM
My kid is starting to get into comic books.
So far, his favorite are Asterix and Bone (he found the first volume of Bone in his school class library and begged me to buy him the other eight).
If he likes Asterix, check if there's an English translation of Les Tuniques Bleus about the American Civil War. Those two were the comics that got me interested in history.
Heh, I'll look into it. Do you remember the authour's name?
Quote from: jimmy olsen on October 15, 2013, 10:48:18 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on October 15, 2013, 04:27:02 PM
To get a really solid grounding in the medium, I think he should read Watchmen, and if he likes it, From Hell.
:lol: He's like 5
Actually, almost 8 (he'll be 8 in December). Time flies! :cry:
When my nephew started getting interested in this stuff, I got him the trade paperbacks of Batman. About 15 bucks.
Quote from: Malthus on October 16, 2013, 08:44:31 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on October 15, 2013, 10:48:18 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on October 15, 2013, 04:27:02 PM
To get a really solid grounding in the medium, I think he should read Watchmen, and if he likes it, From Hell.
:lol: He's like 5
Actually, almost 8 (he'll be 8 in December). Time flies! :cry:
Yeah, like Tim is over 30. :blink:
Quote from: Malthus on October 16, 2013, 08:43:51 AM
Quote from: Syt on October 15, 2013, 10:43:16 PM
Quote from: Malthus on October 15, 2013, 04:21:55 PM
My kid is starting to get into comic books.
So far, his favorite are Asterix and Bone (he found the first volume of Bone in his school class library and begged me to buy him the other eight).
If he likes Asterix, check if there's an English translation of Les Tuniques Bleus about the American Civil War. Those two were the comics that got me interested in history.
Heh, I'll look into it. Do you remember the authour's name?
Raoul Cauvin. First few albums drawn by Salvérius, later ones by Lambil.
Also, in English it appears to be called The Bluecoats, and only a few books have been translated.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Les_Tuniques_Bleues
If you've played the old North & South game on Amiga, C64 or NES, then the style should be familiar:
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Awesome! I'll check it out. :)
Man, I'm like 15 issues behind.
Attention Cal! I am reading a comic right now that has Peter North in it. :w00t:
Quote from: Syt on October 16, 2013, 09:04:43 AM
If you've played the old North & South game on Amiga, C64 or NES, then the style should be familiar:
I thought I was one of the only people who knew of that game! My cousin and I used to play it every holiday when he would come to my parents. It was a blast.
Carl loves the Bluecoats. Got him the first one, he re-reads it a lot.
Quote from: Malthus on November 01, 2013, 12:54:55 PM
Carl loves the Bluecoats. Got him the first one, he re-reads it a lot.
Now get him a Civil War play set.
I'M GONNA HAVE TO TAKE OFF THE LEG
Velvet #1 by Brubaker and Esting- a great spy thriller.
:lol: I could totally see the Flash saying that
http://nebezial.deviantart.com/art/dude-talk-419516503
For Ide:
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Cap does believe in a planned economy.
Quote from: Ideologue on January 11, 2014, 06:39:47 PM
Cap does believe in a planned economy.
I wouldn't go that far. He was probably a New Dealer, but I have no reason to suspect that he was anti-American.
He made Nixon commit suicide. :(
Quote from: Malthus on November 01, 2013, 12:54:55 PM
Carl loves the Bluecoats. Got him the first one, he re-reads it a lot.
You may have already done this but... get him some pens and paper, let him start to draw some of his own!
Quote from: Ideologue on January 11, 2014, 08:41:29 PM
He made Nixon commit suicide. :(
Number One wasn't Nixon. Nixon was a hero.
Anyone else watching Arrow? It has grown to be my favorite show on tv right now. It's such a comic fans wet dream. Damn. [spoiler]The Flash, Amanda Waller recruiting Deadshot and Bronze Tiger for Suicide Squad, Deathstroke, little nods like Kord Industries, Speedy, all kinds of new and awesome stuff this season.[/spoiler]
I'm liking it. Little heavy on the flashbacks to the island is my only complaint.
I'm a little embarrassed to admit that, after watching the first season religiously, I lost track of it and didn't even realize it had come back on, let alone gotten through two thirds of the season. I'm rectifying that right now. :blush:
[spoiler]Suicide Squad?[/spoiler]
Guess I was right when I was thinking that this show was slanting more toward the Titans than the Justice League.
:huh:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_Squad (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_Squad) I quite enjoyed them during the 80's/early 90's Justice League era.
I've always wanted to read the early 90s series. I've been told it's very similar to the Secret Six run Simone did in the twilight days of DC Comics having any relevance to anyone.
:hmm:
I got Wonder Woman.
QuoteInjustices against vulnerable people make you absolutely insane. When you read about horrible atrocities being committed against protestors in another county, it makes your blood absolutely boil, which is why you make it a point to set by example, priding yourself on being ahead of the curve on social issues.
http://www.buzzfeed.com/kristinchirico/which-superhero-are-you
Black Widow :unsure:
QuoteYou got: Black Widow
Marvel
You're a fixer, a closer, a doer — the type of person who is the first one in and the last one out, because if there's anyone you trust to get something done, it's you. You used to hate group projects in high school — too many variables, and you ended up just doing all the work anyway. But hey, it's served you well.
Actually, yes that's true... :unsure:
You got: Wolverine
Marvel
You're a straight shooter, but you don't trust people very easily. That's something that, in your opinion, needs to be earned. You've got something of a tough exterior, but you're a good person, and if you come across as a little too gruff sometimes, well, that's only because you're focusing the energy you'd use to be nice on stuff that's more important.
You got: Thor
Marvel
You're basically a big teddy bear: playful and lovable with your friends, a horrifying killing machine when it comes to anyone who comes between you and your cubs (or your food). Sometimes you don't know your own strength, which means that you can be a bit too exuberant when comes to things like parties, hugs, laughter, and beer pong. It's just because you love too hard.
Quote from: garbon on March 06, 2014, 04:09:13 PM
:hmm:
I got Wonder Woman.
QuoteInjustices against vulnerable people make you absolutely insane. When you read about horrible atrocities being committed against protestors in another county, it makes your blood absolutely boil, which is why you make it a point to set by example, priding yourself on being ahead of the curve on social issues.
http://www.buzzfeed.com/kristinchirico/which-superhero-are-you
Empathy! From our Garbon?
Not on my watch! :mad:
Captain America
QuoteYou believe you're nothing if not a good neighbor. In high school, you were the type of person who would offer to help someone clean up their front yard after the cool kids TP'd it, because you were just that kind. Politeness is your jam, and why wouldn't it be? You know that people respect those who give respect.
I got Space Ghost. :mellow:
QuoteYou got: Space Ghost
Viacom
What do you mean, "Who is Space Ghost?" You're only the fucking king of space. What else do they want from you? You've given America, nay, the world, your crime fighting powers by day and your critically acclaimed talk show host powers by night, and shouldn't that be enough? You also have an evil twin brother named Tad Ghostal, but this personality description isn't about him, it's about you, so stop thinking about Tad, right now. Stop it.
Quote from: Barrister on July 24, 2013, 02:34:42 PM
Quote from: garbon on July 24, 2013, 10:28:40 AM
Superman: You don't believe in underdogs. Cheering for Kal-El is sort of like rooting for Duke or the Miami Heat—you like the very best and don't like to be on the losing team. You are probably the firstborn and are a bit of an overachiever, so you're used to setting the example and handling the pressure that comes with it. You have probably enabled "god mode" in a video game or cheated on your golf score at some point. You're loyal to a fault, or at least like loyal people. You're also an optimist and see the good in all, despite what Batman fans says about you.
Says you. :mad:
I agree, seems like a superman hater wrote that.
Quote from: DontSayBanana on February 01, 2014, 02:56:09 AM
[spoiler]Suicide Squad?[/spoiler]
Guess I was right when I was thinking that this show was slanting more toward the Titans than the Justice League.
The show has been mining Titans mythology pretty aggressivly in addition to GA mythology. [spoiler]Deathstroke, Jericho, Brother Blood and Speedy[/spoiler] are either in the show or have been mentioned. I think the CW got dibs on pretty much anything WB didn't think it was going to use in it's movies. So don't expect Superman, Batman and Wonderwoman characters. They been given pretty much freedom to mine any B list villains.
I don't need a test. I know that I am Adam Warlock.
Quote from: Viking on March 07, 2014, 02:05:40 PM
Quote from: Barrister on July 24, 2013, 02:34:42 PM
Quote from: garbon on July 24, 2013, 10:28:40 AM
Superman: You don't believe in underdogs. Cheering for Kal-El is sort of like rooting for Duke or the Miami Heat—you like the very best and don't like to be on the losing team. You are probably the firstborn and are a bit of an overachiever, so you're used to setting the example and handling the pressure that comes with it. You have probably enabled "god mode" in a video game or cheated on your golf score at some point. You're loyal to a fault, or at least like loyal people. You're also an optimist and see the good in all, despite what Batman fans says about you.
Says you. :mad:
I agree, seems like a superman hater wrote that.
That's quite the necro-quote.
Deathstroke is not B list! :mad:
Ehh, I dunno.
Heh. Different.
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You got: Professor X
You're a lover, not a fighter, although you could kick someone's ass if you wanted to. You believe that true strength comes from being able to get stuff done without being a bully. Besides, you get more satisfaction from outsmarting someone than you do from inflicting pain on them, because anyone could do that. You're better than that.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on March 07, 2014, 06:58:14 PM
Deathstroke is not B list! :mad:
Joker, Luthor and Darkseid are A-List.
Though, Arrow has already promoted Green Arrow to B-List and Merlyn to C-List, it might push Deathstroke up to A-List.
Do you think Green Lantern will ever show up? Because I still want to know, what about the black skins?
Quote from: jimmy olsen on March 07, 2014, 06:58:14 PM
Deathstroke is not B list! :mad:
Sure he is. He might be awesome, but he hasn't got the marketability of the Joker or Lex Luthor, nor has he got the sheer presence of Darkseid. He's a guy whose job it is to be awesome and unbeatable against second-stringers like Green Arrow, the Teen Titans or the Birds of Prey.
Quote from: Ideologue on March 07, 2014, 03:02:47 PM
I don't need a test. I know that I am Adam Warlock.
You were crafted as a tool of a twisted and false ideology? Is Marxism the Universal Church of Truth?
Quote from: Neil on March 07, 2014, 09:02:29 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on March 07, 2014, 06:58:14 PM
Deathstroke is not B list! :mad:
Sure he is. He might be awesome, but he hasn't got the marketability of the Joker or Lex Luthor, nor has he got the sheer presence of Darkseid. He's a guy whose job it is to be awesome and unbeatable against second-stringers like Green Arrow, the Teen Titans or the Birds of Prey.
Blasphemy! :mad:
The Titans aren't Superman or Batman. That is all.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on March 07, 2014, 09:19:38 PM
Quote from: Neil on March 07, 2014, 09:02:29 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on March 07, 2014, 06:58:14 PM
Deathstroke is not B list! :mad:
Sure he is. He might be awesome, but he hasn't got the marketability of the Joker or Lex Luthor, nor has he got the sheer presence of Darkseid. He's a guy whose job it is to be awesome and unbeatable against second-stringers like Green Arrow, the Teen Titans or the Birds of Prey.
Blasphemy! :mad:
As much as I love the TT they are a team of sidekicks, misfits and way OP chicks who need calming down on a regular basis. They are not A List.
Quote from: Neil on March 07, 2014, 09:07:20 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on March 07, 2014, 03:02:47 PM
I don't need a test. I know that I am Adam Warlock.
You were crafted as a tool of a twisted and false ideology? Is Marxism the Universal Church of Truth?
I was birthed by scientists, I ran away, and when I tried to get laid, Thor beat me up.
Quote from: Viking on March 08, 2014, 06:14:18 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on March 07, 2014, 09:19:38 PM
Quote from: Neil on March 07, 2014, 09:02:29 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on March 07, 2014, 06:58:14 PM
Deathstroke is not B list! :mad:
Sure he is. He might be awesome, but he hasn't got the marketability of the Joker or Lex Luthor, nor has he got the sheer presence of Darkseid. He's a guy whose job it is to be awesome and unbeatable against second-stringers like Green Arrow, the Teen Titans or the Birds of Prey.
Blasphemy! :mad:
As much as I love the TT they are a team of sidekicks, misfits and way OP chicks who need calming down on a regular basis. They are not A List.
Raven may be OP but she doesn't need calming down.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on March 08, 2014, 10:49:55 AM
Quote from: Viking on March 08, 2014, 06:14:18 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on March 07, 2014, 09:19:38 PM
Quote from: Neil on March 07, 2014, 09:02:29 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on March 07, 2014, 06:58:14 PM
Deathstroke is not B list! :mad:
Sure he is. He might be awesome, but he hasn't got the marketability of the Joker or Lex Luthor, nor has he got the sheer presence of Darkseid. He's a guy whose job it is to be awesome and unbeatable against second-stringers like Green Arrow, the Teen Titans or the Birds of Prey.
Blasphemy! :mad:
As much as I love the TT they are a team of sidekicks, misfits and way OP chicks who need calming down on a regular basis. They are not A List.
Raven may be OP but she doesn't need calming down.
Plus donna troy and starfire lose their shit on a regular basis. Raven needs to constantly stay calm and collected or else she will become the vessel of trigon the demon and open a portal to an alternate dimension leading to the destruction of this dimension by demons. I say she fits in the category of needing to calm down. She has it over the other pms'ing superheroines that she KNOWS she needs to stay calm, that is why she is constantly meditating.
Indeed Starfire's uncontrolled rage is one of the most memorable tropes of the series. They have an animated version of the Teen Titans, but from what I've seen of it they seem to have excised that from her character.
Quote from: Neil on March 08, 2014, 01:21:34 PM
Indeed Starfire's uncontrolled rage is one of the most memorable tropes of the series. They have an animated version of the Teen Titans, but from what I've seen of it they seem to have excised that from her character.
In both Teen Titans and Teen Titans GO, her rage filled abolitionism isn't present at all. Well, except the first Teen Titans episode where she gets freed from slavery... until she learns the meaning of the word "nice". Silly yes.
To be honest Donna Troy isn't exactly a paragon of stability either.
and.. eh..
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Mercury must have a mutant healing factor.
Apparently, the publishers of Archie comics are planning to kill off Archie. How will he die, I wonder? :hmm:
Diabetes.
Punisher!
Then Jughead becomes the new Green Lantern.
I got Superman:
QuoteDC Comics
You were the type of cool kid in high school who invited everyone to sit at their lunch table or come to their party, because the idea of shunning people just because they were different than you made absolutely no sense. You're a natural leader, and you stick to your guns, with the hopes that if you do the right thing, other people will follow.
I don't think any internet test has ever tagged me so incorrectly. I certainly wasn't one of the cool kids in high school, and while I do try to do the right thing, I have very few illusions about anyone following my lead.
Captain America.
An Archie-Punisher-Marvel Zombies crossover would be a swell way to end things.
Cyborg and Wonderwoman both being introduced in the same movie? Batman vs. Superman is looking worse and worse :(
Captain America 3 is gonna massacre this
https://uk.movies.yahoo.com/ray-fisher-play-cyborg-batman-vs-superman-230100308.html
Cyborg? Has anyone ever cared about Cyborg?
It really highlights the era in which 90-99% of the marketable DC characters were created, that their choice for tokenism these past few years has been Cyborg.
(Why not John Stewart? As a non-Hal Jordan, he's by definition a better Green Lantern than Hal Jordan.)
He was good in the Teen Titans cartoon.
Love John Stewart.
I've heard it's an ok show. Better than Superman and The Legion of Super-Heroes? I tend to doubt it. Man, was that show amazing.
Reminds me, I'm deeply suspicious of Guardians of the Galaxy sucking, but I want it to succeed whether it does or not: if it makes a billion dollars, the chances of a LOSH film go from "somehow mathematically less than zero" to "maybe like two percent."
Never seen Legion of Superheros, but Teen Titans was great.
I liked the cartoon where the villains flew around in that giant black helmet looking thing.
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Quote from: jimmy olsen on April 25, 2014, 03:56:57 AM
Never seen Legion of Superheros, but Teen Titans was great.
Check it out if you ever get the chance. The character design is basically the best version of the LSH there is (Barry Kitson's revamp of the LSH for Mark Waid back during the Threeboot comes closest, followed by their original Silver Age dugs). More importantly (maybe), the stuff they do with Brainiac 5 is really great. (There's a lot of wonderful character stuff, but the most notable change in the transition from the page to the screen is that he's FINALLY been reimagined as a motherfucking robot. The fact B5 was never changed in the comics, even though Brainiac 1 was retconned as a robot back in like the 70s, is high up on my list of incredibly frustrating things about the real DC universe.)
The most inspiring of origin stories
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Why is the wall builder dude wearing a white labcoat?
Quote from: jimmy olsen on May 07, 2014, 07:43:39 PM
The most inspiring of origin stories
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It would be clever if his real name was Steve Nout:
In this same interlude it doth befall
That I, one Snout by name, present a wall;
And such a wall, as I would have you think,
That had in it a crannied hole or chink,
Through which the lovers, Pyramus and Thisby,
Did whisper often very secretly.
This loam, this rough-cast and this stone doth show
That I am that same wall; the truth is so:
And this the cranny is, right and sinister,
Through which the fearful lovers are to whisper.-Midsummer Night's Dream; Act V Scene 1
Hell Fuckin' Yeah!!! :punk:
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Quote from: jimmy olsen on May 22, 2014, 01:25:34 AM
Hell Fuckin' Yeah!!! :punk:
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801 F.3d 1241 (10th Cir. 2015).
What a terrible, terrible name.
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Singapore is racist, yo.
Also somewhat divergent in their use of the term "race."
Batman von Superman? I like this new Teutonic influenced origin story for Batman.
I really think Batman needs more than that given his financing of the Justice League space station. He'd need John D. Rockefeller level wealth for that to be plausible and that's at least $300 billion in today's money.
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So Magneto owns a giant radioactive hole in the ground? Or is Genosha back? I just re-read Grant Morrison's New X-Men run.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on June 04, 2014, 11:48:45 AM
I really think Batman needs more than that given his financing of the Justice League space station. He'd need John D. Rockefeller level wealth for that to be plausible and that's at least $300 billion in today's money.
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If you've built a space station you're probably not very rich anymore.
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That's alot of details.
I'd prefer RIFTS Earth.
I told you orcas couldn't be trusted.
At least he converted America to solar power! :)
http://siskoid.blogspot.ca/2010/04/what-if-captain-america-had-been.html
Is DC literally pants on the head retarded? Releasing Wonder Woman two months after Justice League?
http://blogs.indiewire.com/theplaylist/justice-league-movie-to-hit-may-2017-wonder-woman-green-lantern-flash-crossover-coming-same-year-20140612
May 2016 – Batman v Superman
July 2016 – Shazam
Xmas 2016 – Sandman
May 2017 – Justice League
July 2017 – Wonder Woman
Xmas 2017 – Flash and Green Lantern team-up
May 2018 – Man Of Steel 2
I bet they looked at how X-Men and Cap can come out two months apart. Question is whether the market can support that many superhero properties.
And Captain Marvel? Hell, I'm down for that.
The difference between Marvel and DC (well, at least the Avengers themed movies) is that the Marvel movies interconnect with one another (which was a ballsy move, but one that seems to have paid off for them). So far Batman and Supes have been separate, and I'm not sure if they haven't missed the train on this one.
I think there might be another peak with Avengers 2, and then the superhero movies will likely taper off and hit a final climax with Avengers 3 (come on, we all know it's coming) - maybe with a mega crossover, movie rights permitting?
They're gonna do the Infinity Gauntlet.
Without, as far as I can tell, Adam Warlock.
Which means it will be awful. (Why does Guardians of the Galaxy exist rather than a Warlock picture? I'm really not looking forward to that; it could still be good, but I refuse to get even one hope up about it. It has an excellent chance of being terrible on its own merits.)
Apparently there's a town called Eromanga. I didn't need to know this. :x
Quote from: jimmy olsen on June 12, 2014, 11:24:01 PM
Is DC literally pants on the head retarded? Releasing Wonder Woman two months after Justice League?
http://blogs.indiewire.com/theplaylist/justice-league-movie-to-hit-may-2017-wonder-woman-green-lantern-flash-crossover-coming-same-year-20140612
May 2016 – Batman v Superman
July 2016 – Shazam
Xmas 2016 – Sandman
May 2017 – Justice League
July 2017 – Wonder Woman
Xmas 2017 – Flash and Green Lantern team-up
May 2018 – Man Of Steel 2
No Steel 2? Shaq ain't getting any younger.
Courtesy of Super Dictionary, entry "anything":
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:perv:
Tell me more of this "Batman".
Quote from: The Brain on July 05, 2014, 06:10:49 AM
Tell me more of this "Batman".
You mean Läderlappen?
Quote from: The Brain on July 05, 2014, 06:10:49 AM
Tell me more of this "Batman".
What are you, dense? Are you retarded or something? Who the hell do you think he is? He's the Goddamned Batman!
I've gone and subbed to Marvel Unlimited. Holy archive panic, Batman!
I've read through the Age of Ultron arc which I thought was ok, and have now started on the Civil War arc. Fortunately they include all the tie ins in those arcs' pages. :lol:
This will lead to some disturbing fan art:
QuoteUpdated Images, Info: THOR Drops The Hammer, a New Female THOR Takes His Place
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Update: In a follow-up press release, Jason Arron stressed that the new Thor is just that: Thor.
"This is not She-Thor. This is not Lady Thor. This is not Thorita. This is THOR. This is the THOR of the Marvel Universe. But it's unlike any Thor we've ever seen before," Aaron said.
The new female Thor will launch in a new series with a new first issue, Thor #1, launching in the fall. Aaron will stay on as writer, joined by artist Russell Dauterman, coming off of Cyclops. The press release also says this is "a brand new female hero," seemingly putting to rest speculation that the newly-revealed sister of Thor, Angela, would take up the hammer.
Marvel Comics also confirmed to Newsarama that Thor will take the place of Thor: God of Thunder, which will ship its final issue in September 2014.
Original Story:
Earlier this month we learned that we'd be getting an all-new Captain America, but on ABC's The View earlier today news broke that Marvel is also replacing another core Avenger: Thor. As announced by Whoopi Goldberg, Marvel is introducing a new female Thor in comics later this year.
"It's a huge day in the Marvel Universe. Thor, the God of Thunder, he messed up, and he's no longer worthy to hold that damn hammer of his. For the first time in history, that hammer is being held by a woman. That's right. Thor is a woman!"
Details on the identity of this new Thor remain sparse. Goldberg jokingly said that the character works on the set of The View in comics when not being Thor. The comedienne did say more matter-of-factly that the new Thor modeled herself after the original after being saved by him. The View co-host goes on to say that she becomes the possessor of Mjolnir after the original Thor becomes no longer worthy according to the inscription.
The idea of the original male Thor losing Mjolnir might seem shocking, but something comics fans were hinted to in recently solicited Avengers covers showing Thor holding Jarnbjorn, a battle axe introduced in the first issue of Jason Aaron and Esad Ribic's run on Thor: God of Thunder, which also had a major role in the Uncanny Avengers storyline that has run since that series launched.
Newsarama expects more information on this all-new, all-female Thor leading up to Comic-Con International.
This will also lead to some disturbing fan art:
QuoteArchie's death latest comic book to inject reality
LOS ANGELES — For most of Archie Andrews' life, the red-headed comic book icon's biggest quandary was whether he liked Veronica or Betty.
The character's impending death comes in Wednesday's installment of "Life with Archie," a spin-off series that centers on grown-up renditions of Archie and his Riverdale pals. It brings a bold conclusion to Archie Comics' four-year-old modern makeover of the squeaky-clean, all-American character.
Freckle-faced Archie will meet his demise when he intervenes in an assassination attempt on senator Kevin Keller, Archie Comics' first openly gay character, who's pushing for more gun control in Riverdale. Archie's death, which was first announced in April, will mark the conclusion of the "Life with Archie" series.
"I think Archie Comics has taken a lot of risks in recent years, and this is the biggest risk they've taken yet," said Jonathan Merrifield, a longtime Archie fan who hosts the Riverdale Podcast about all things Archie. "If it shakes things up a little bit, and people end up checking it out and seeing what's going on in Archie Comics, it will be a risk that was smartly taken."
While casual fans likely still associate Archie with soda shops and sock hops — and that's still holds true for the very much alive teenage character in the original "Archie" series — Archie was thrust into adulthood with the launch of "Life with Archie" in 2010. The series kicked off after alternate futures were envisioned where the love-struck do-gooder married both Veronica and Betty.
Over the past four years, storylines in the more socially relevant series aimed at adult Archie fans have included Kevin's marriage to his husband, the death of longtime teacher Ms. Grundy, Archie love interest Cheryl Blossom tackling breast cancer and Jughead and friends dealing with financial struggles.
It's been a shift not unlike other changes in the modern comic book landscape, where Spider-Man's alter-ego is a multi-racial teenager and Wonder Woman wears pants.
"Every few years, we see a comic book tackling an issue that could be considered provocative," said Dave Luebke, owner of Dave's Comics in Richmond, Virginia. "It's interesting that the ending of 'Life with Archie' involves multiple social issues, but it's not surprising." (Luebke sold his rare 1942 "Archie" No. 1 comic book in 2009 for $38,837 at a Dallas auction.)
The Gay and Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation and several Archie fans praised Archie Comics' decision to have the character sacrifice himself to save Kevin, who is depicted in "Life with Archie" as a married military veteran turned senator.
"In recent years, 'Life with Archie' has become one of the most unique books on the shelves by using its characters to address real world issues — from marriage equality to gun control — in a smart but accessible way," said Matt Kane, GLAAD's director of entertainment media. "Though the story is coming to a close, we look forward to seeing Kevin and Archie's stories continue in their remaining titles."
Others have voiced their concern on Archie Comics' Facebook page and other online forums that the character's death was unnecessary or too politicized.
Jon Goldwater, Archie Comics publisher and co-CEO, defended Archie's demise being a lesson about gun violence and diversity.
"Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but I don't agree," said Goldwater. "I think Riverdale is a place where everyone should feel welcome and safe. From my point of view, I'm proud of the stance we've taken here, and I don't think it's overtly political on any level."
Depending on the success of the final installments of "Life with Archie," Riverdale Podcast host Merrifield won't be surprised if Archie Comics takes on other topical issues in the near future.
"I'm sure there will be a tearful moment for me," he said of the character's death. "But this isn't goodbye. He'll be back in a couple of weeks in a book of reprints and the teenage 'Archie' will continue. Archie will still be around. He's always around."
But then four impostors will arise, each claiming in some way to be Archie; until the real Archie comes back from the dead.
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Be better if Archie were killed defending a black friend against a posse of homosexual Klansmen.
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Anyone read this?
http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/2013/05/13/kieron-gillen-uber-comic-book-series/2149289/
QuoteTalking about his newest comic-book series Uber is both exciting and challenging for British writer Kieron Gillen.
But more than that, he's conflicted emotionally by the whole thing.
On the one hand, this enormous World War II horror story is one he's passionate enough about to write a 30,000-word bible about its characters, story beats and real-life historical situations.
However, it's also a bleak and often brutal "What happens if Nazi Germany got the bomb?" tale in some ways because it veers from reality by imagining Adolf Hitler and his SS developing superhumans in order to win the war and defeat the Allies.
"That is the horror of it — it's meant to be horrible. I entirely accept anyone's right to be offended by the story, but I'm very much not on Nazi Germany's side," Gillen says with a chuckle. "I feel completely redundant saying that but this is a critique of the problems of the psychology that leads to this and using the metaphor to explore those areas."
MORE: Check out an exclusive preview of "Uber" No. 2
The writer, who teams with artist Caanan White, worries about the ethical questions of Uber — of if it's even possible to do an ethical book about seemingly unstoppable Nazi supervillains — but readers are so far embracing the tough subject matter: Both last month's zero issue and Uber No. 1, released last week from Avatar Press along with an "enhanced" edition of the zero issue, sold out at the comic-shop retailer level.
The series is a brutal and intriguing epic set mere hours before the end of the war in 1945, with the Soviet army surrounding Berlin and a broken and defeated Germany quickly crumbling.
Everything changes, though, with the introduction of the Ubers, comprised of two genetically engineered groups of men and women: the rank and file of the "Panzermensch" and the really powerful elite group known as "Battleships" who are living weapons of mass destruction.
It pretty much takes a bazooka shot at point-blank range to down a Panzermensch. So you can only guess from there how near-invincible Battleships Siegmund, Siegfried and Sieglinde are and what kind of damage they can do — they rack up a serious body count in the zero issue.
"Probaby the hardest thing about designing the Ubers is making them powerful enough to make a difference and not make them so powerful immediately they take over the world," Gillen says.
Their appearance sets off an arms race where other countries scramble to build their own superheroes to deal this new threat. (And Freya, an undercover agent for the Brits working undercover in a Nazi lab, is trying to high-tail out of Germany with their secrets in hand.)
Avatar editor in chief William Christensen had originally reached out to Gillen about doing a comic about Germany inventing superhumans. Then the writer extrapolated hugely on it "because I realized it locked into things I was thinking about — humans and society and responsibility and fear and death," he says.
"The thing about Uber is it's not a book about superhumans in any way, specifically not about the genre, and for me that was part of the point, as well."
The novelistic structure of Uber — Gillen hopes to get 30 to 60 issues out of it — explores the darker side of humanity, what power does to men and what kind of monsters there are in the world.
"It's a book that does not shy away from the question of monstrosity — it's very much a theme," Gillen says. "At what point does it become divorced from the intrinsic humanity? 'Superhuman' is just another way of saying not 'human.'
"In a real sense, a crisis shows humanity at its best and its worst, and there are moments in Uber that show why humans are worth continuing to exist."
A serious take on World War II superheroes is not new in comics, according to Gillen — it has been done in books such as Zenith, Tom Strong and Garth Ennis' The Boys. And even the idea of Nazi supervillains is a common trope now, though they're usually rendered as zombies and the like for "safe" fiction.
Gillen, however, really wanted to use the metaphor of enhanced humans to expand upon World War II themes in a respectful way.
"As a writer, I might tend to be more interested in why people do bad things than why people do good things. It's why people are led down horrific moral paths and all the different reasons for that," Gillen says.
Uber also wildly differs from the main superhero books he does, including Iron Man and Young Avengers for Marvel Comics.
In fact, one of the core ideas of the book was to stray from the traditional idea of heroic action fiction that the hero will always rise to overcome an objective.
"It doesn't matter if Spider-Man's fighting Galactus — Spider-Man will find a way to beat Galactus. Uber isn't that story. Uber is the story that every single time, Galactus will kill Spider-Man," Gillen explains. "In the same way that a tank is an incredible piece of hardware, a modern attack helicopter will always take out a tank just because they are different tools for different purposes.
"It's not a story about heroism and overcoming. This is the story about just being [screwed]. Occasionally, the economics and the military situation will lead to people being crushed in the wheels of history, and that's true whether you are the most powerful person on Earth or if you're just a random orphan living in the streets of Okinawa. These are enormous forces that can crush anybody."
Even though it's called Uber, the book focuses on more than the Nazi war machine. The series will span the globe in terms of different theaters of war and in types of characters — however, there are no leads since Gillen wants readers to worry that people could die at any time, sometimes rather nastily.
"Caanan and I are not just interested in doing the brutality thing. When we show brutality, it's horrible," the writer says. "It's not just someone unleashing a bomb — this is knowing who is in the building when the bomb is unleashed."
There will be point-of-view characters and supporting players like Freya and the lethal Soviet sniper Maria, and a whole history book of real-life figures like Hitler, British Prime Minister Winston Churchill and, from the research-and-development side of things, Alan Turing and others at England's Bletchley Park code-breaking center.
While some are harder than others — Churchill is "brilliant to write," Gillen admits, but "any day where you write Hitler isn't a fun day. That's not something I like doing" — Gillen feels a sense of responsibility to be fair with all his interpretations, just like with any historical fiction.
"I'm writing Hitler literally at the end of the war," he says. "Anyone who's seen for example Downfall knows Hitler isn't exactly in the rightest of minds at this point. That's the kind of Hitler I'm writing — he is a man who is physically broken.
"There are moments when I'm writing something and I realize it's not fair to do that to that character — rarely with the Nazis. I was writing Georgy Zhukov the Soviet general and I realized, 'No, I think that's unfair to Zhukov,' so I had to completely reapproach the scene."
Gillen spent a lot of time doing research over the past five years, poring over history books to reach an acceptable amount of authenticity and mapping out Uber's battle plan. He sees the series going from Germany to Britain to Okinawa to the Eastern front and the Soviet superhuman program to the Atlantic Ocean.
He stayed home for the first five-issue arc and focused on primarily the Western theater and aspects such as Churchill's politics and Bletchley Park. It all builds to the first big battle between Allies and Ubers.
"There is very much a Battle of Britain-ness to it, the refusal to give up and fighting uphill," Gillen says. "Having Nazi Germany have the lead in this field creates an enormous challenge for the Allies to try to match. That's the thing with the first arc: Can we get superhumans together in time for this thing that is happening?
"World War II in Britain is a strange thing and it hangs over us, and this is very much me processing a lot of that," adds the writer, who is also delving into history with Three. His Image Comics series with artist Ryan Kelly debuts in October inverts the Thermopylae myth with a trio of Helot slaves on the run from the Spartan army of 300.
Uber is unlike most everything he's written and it's the anti-superhero comic in many ways, but the series is "not solely a grim-fest," Gillen promises.
"I find these people incredibly heroic, especially the people who are completely innocent. The question of innocence is interesting in Uber (with) people being crushed by something much larger than them and the horror people face with real dignity. There's heroism in that as much as in anything."
Still reading Marvel's Civil War arc. That's what - over a hundred comics? Still, liking it quite a bit, and I may look a bit closer at the noirish X-Factor run 2005-2013, and some of the other series tied into it.
Preview for Avengers NOW!:
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Finished Civil War and its tie ins.
That was actually pretty good.
Speaking of which, it looks like a Sandman movie is in the works. I hope they don't ruin it.
What was that, the politically correct Avengers?
Can you guys recommend cool comic books? I am looking for something in the style of Sandman or Fables. I heard the Swamp Thing is good.
If you haven't read it, League of Extraordinary Gentlemen I & II and the Black Dossier. There are more books, but YMMV on whether you like them or not.
Also, esp. if you like Hunter S. Thompson, Transmetropolitan.
Reading up on some 80s X-Men, and came across this panel:
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Sending a photo of the couple in bed? Really? :lol:
Who took the picture? :hmm:
I'll second Transmet. I think Mart would probably enjoy that.
So, started reading the LoEG. Loving it. Reminds me of my gaming group's Aberrant games. :P
Release Dates for the next nine Marvel movies confirmed!
http://www.wired.com/2014/10/marvel-next-5-years-of-movies/
QuoteCheck Out Marvel's Next 9 Movies, Including Black Panther and More Avengers
By Jordan Crucchiola
10.28.14 |
4:06 pm |
Did everyone feel that just now? It was the Earth's mantle cracking from the impact of a cultural carpet-bombing by Marvel. As they announced during an event in Los Angeles this morning, they've got 2015-2019 on lockdown—it looks like Phase III is about to be in full effect. (And that's not counting Avengers: Age of Ultron and Ant-Man hitting theaters next July. Here are the official release dates for Marvel's next five years:
Captain America: Civil War
In Theaters: 5.6.16
What We Know: The third Cap movie is set after both Winter Soldier and the forthcoming Age of Ultron. Sebastian Stan returns as Bucky Barnes/the Winter Solder, aka the dark counterpart to Steve Rogers' Captain America, and directors Anthony and Joe Russo are returning as well. (Kind of a darkest-timeline thing going on.) Anyone with super powers is being required to register with the U.S. government and basically work for the authorities. Tony Stark and the Captain are at odds on the impending legislation, and no matter what happens, a fractured Avengers team means bad news for humanity.
Doctor Strange
In Theaters: 11.4.16
What We Know: Scott Derrickson (Sinister) is locked in to direct the script by Jon Spaihts (Prometheus), and Benedict Cumberbatch is rumored to be all but confirmed to play the titular Doctor, the "sorcerer supreme" of the Marvel universe. We'll see how the first foray into Marvel's mystical side goes!
Guardians of the Galaxy 2
In Theaters: 5.5.17
What We Know: James Gunn is coming back to direct the sequel to 2014′s highest grossing movie to date. Also, thank the (star) lord, we get more Chris Pratt, Zoe Saldana, Dave Bautista, Vin Diesel as Groot, and Bradley Cooper as Rocket. Other likely reappearances include Michael Rooker as Yondu, Karen Gillan as Nebula and Benicio Del Toro as The Collector. Also money. We will definitely see lots and lots more money.
Thor: Ragnarok
In Theaters: 7.28.17
What We Know: Ragnorak was a storyline published in 2004 by Marvel Comics. Feige reportedly described Ragnorak as "The end of all things" at today's Marvel event. So that means bad news for real-life-fake-God Chris Hemsworth and perhaps also his brother Loki, who we have missed dearly since The Dark World. Good news: Tom Hiddelston. Bad news: Armageddon?
Black Panther
In Theaters: 11.3.17
What We Know: Not much yet, other than Chadwick Boseman (who is apparently the biopic king, having played Jackie Robinson in 42 and James Brown in Get On Up) will be the Panther himself, otherwise known as T'Challa, leader of the fictional African nation, Wakanda.
Avengers: Infinity War Part 1
In Theaters: 5.4.18
What We Know: Another one in the "not much" camp. But Marvel did flash an image of Thanos on the big screen when they announced the film today, which means all kinds of bad things for the hero squad – or at least what remains of them by 2018! We have to think this will be the beginning of the resolution of the Infinity Gems story arc (well, sub-arc) that's been strung throughout all of the MCU movies thus far.
Avengers: Infinity War Part 2
In Theaters: 5.3.19
What We Know: No one is immune to two-part sequels—NOT EVEN KEVIN FEIGE.
Captain Marvel
In Theaters: 7.6.18
What We Know: Ladies and gentlemen, we have our first female lead Marvel movie! Captain Marvel's name is Carol Danvers, and she'll surely be here to kick ass and chew bubble gum.
Inhumans
In Theaters: 11.2.18
What We Know: This will be Marvel's 20th movie, and Feige says it will introduce "tons of new characters". Here's to 20 more! The Inhumans, FWIW, are part of Marvel's cosmic stories, of which GOTG was the studio's first official title.
Yeah, I posted that in the, you know, movies thread.
I'm usually 5-10 pages behind in that thread.
I came from the future, and They all suck.
Quote from: Ed Anger on October 29, 2014, 10:21:08 AM
I came from the future, and They all suck.
Yet you paid to watch all of them. Hollywood's business model works.
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on October 29, 2014, 10:31:11 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on October 29, 2014, 10:21:08 AM
I came from the future, and They all suck.
Yet you paid to watch all of them. Hollywood's business model works.
I had free passes.
I have decided to start reading superhero comic books again recently. I used to read quite a bit of them until I quit in the mid-2000s.
Started by going through Astro City's first run. That is a brilliant comic. I loved the lighthearted silver age feel mixed with a more modern take on superhero themes and tropes. Also the fact their main superheroes are pretty recognizable versions of established characters allows the writers to play with their associated themes in fun and interesting ways, [spoiler]like their version of Batman being an actual vampire or their Superman living a solitary and joyless life because of his devotion to superhero duty.[/spoiler].
This is a rather old one, but what superhero stuff from the past 7-8 years should I absolutely read?
QuoteAnyone with super powers is being required to register with the U.S. government and basically work for the authorities.
All fucking ten of them! Is there possibly a single storyline less suited to the Marvel Cinematic Universe? Leaving aside What If stories and the like, I honestly can't think of one.
Also, the only interesting part of Civil War involved Spider-Man. Also also, Iron Man was right and Cap is a dirty libertarian traitor.
I thought Civil War was decent, especially with the tie ins that gave a bit of a more balanced view point.
In unrelated stuff:
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I'm reading the 2008 Punisher series on my work. When the fuck did Marvel get so violent/dark? Punisher MAX was also very violent/gory, but it was so in an over the top action movie kind of way.
Also, some of the writing sucks balls. Cliffhanger: Punisher, armed with a knife, staring down a squad of armed (criminal) SWAT team at three feet. How does he get out of it?
NO IDEA, because in the next issue he's killed them off panel and there's no explanation how/why.
I keep reading for the moment, because the comic addresses the salient point of what a fucked up psycho Frank Castle is by now.
:lol: Billy does have a fucked up life
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Or, the much more depressing (and one of the only good moments in the DK2) version...
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It seems that Dark Horse's Star Wars license was not extended. At any rate, Star Wars comics are back at Marvel, with several series (Darth Vader, Princess Leia, etc.). I guess they will chuck the previous continuities in comics and EU out of the window?
I would imagine. But then again, with the new films, isn't the EU pretty much dead anyways?
Most of it sucks anyway. Though I liked the old Tales of the Jedi stuff.
I wanted Admiral Thrawn movies, if for no other reason than he looks cool. Cast Fassbender.
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on March 06, 2015, 08:00:38 PM
Most of it sucks anyway. Though I liked the old Tales of the Jedi stuff.
It was mostly the stuff that didn't focus on the main characters that I found interesting, and most of the Old Republic stuff.
Interesting take on the History of DC and their response to Marvel's competition.
http://comicsalliance.com/superman-characters-marvel-universe-ask-chris-171/
http://comicsalliance.com/dc-comics-marvel-golden-age-silver-age-comics-history/
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Looks like Bruce Wayne has to be added to CdM's anime list :lol:
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Damn, this sounds awesome
http://comicsalliance.com/ask-chris-228-dick-tracy-annie-crossover-ending/
Quote
Ask Chris #228: Dick Tracy, Annie, And The Ending To The Weirdest Crossover Of The Year
by Chris Sims January 16, 2015 12:00 PM
Q: How did Dick Tracy solve the case of Li'l Orphan Annie's disappearance and was it appropriately insane? — @willwise3
A: Oh Will. Will, Will, Will. I want to take a moment to thank you for letting me talk about what is unquestionably the single greatest crossover of the year. For those of you who may have missed it, the Little Orphan Annie comic strip ended a while back with what has to be the most harrowing cliffhanger to ever hit the newspaper page. After eighty years of adventures, Annie went out in the middle of a story where she'd been kidnapped by an actual war criminal called the Butcher of the Balkans, locked up on a boat bound for an unknown shore, with Daddy Warbucks wondering if he would ever see his beloved daughter again. Seriously, that was the last strip, and Annie's final fate until it was announced that Dick Tracy would step up and solve the case last summer.
As for whether or not that story was "insane," well, let me put it this way: It involves SUPER-POWERED MOON PEOPLE, ATOMIC WEAPONS, AND A TIME MACHINE.
Just read the Power Girl vs Vartox arc, so amazing! :lmfao:
Some scans
http://scans-daily.dreamwidth.org/1356129.html
:bleeding: Further proof that Tim hates all that is beautiful and good.
Quote from: Syt on March 08, 2015, 04:23:40 AM
:bleeding: Further proof that Tim hates all that is beautiful and good.
That story is hilarious!
Six reviews - One 7, three 8.4s, one 9 and one 10.
http://comicbookroundup.com/comic-books/reviews/dc-comics/power-girl/7
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"Microscopic in size" yet he's clearly as big as an ankle. :hmm:
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on March 08, 2015, 08:04:56 AM
"Microscopic in size" yet he's clearly as big as an ankle. :hmm:
Obviously the picture was enlarged for viewer convenience. :sleep:
If this ever got made it would inevitably be one of the best or one of the worst comic book movies ever made. I can't fathom it turning out mediocre.
http://comicbook.com/2015/03/07/guardians-of-the-galaxy-director-wants-to-do-a-squirrel-girl-mov/
This doesn't look like responsible parenting :hmm:
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Quote from: jimmy olsen on March 14, 2015, 07:33:41 AM
This doesn't look like responsible parenting :hmm:
Yeah, who leaves a Blight Beast in a pit for 5 thousand years during its formative years?
Quote from: jimmy olsen on March 08, 2015, 07:55:49 AM
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I like Silver Age comics.
In 1990, Marvel released 4 issues of Brute Force, intended to serve as a basis for a toy series. The concept: wild animals with cybernetic enhancements/exoskeletons.
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Linkara reviewed them, considering them "stupid, but awesome."
Apparently they unearthed them for a Deadpool special:
QuoteWhen Deadpool is hired by WaterWorld to protect their theme park from activists, he has no idea he's going to wind up face to snout with Brute Force—protectors of the environment!
Now available on Marvel Unlimited.
What cowardly bullshit! :wacko:
http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/dc-comics-cancels-batgirl-joker-variant-at-artists-request
Is Batman done for!? :o
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Quote from: jimmy olsen on March 17, 2015, 06:15:54 AM
What cowardly bullshit! :wacko:
http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/dc-comics-cancels-batgirl-joker-variant-at-artists-request
:huh:
Howard! :weep:
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Quote from: jimmy olsen on June 19, 2013, 03:27:32 AM
Metropolis! :weep:
America will never forget! Vote Lex!
http://www.buzzfeed.com/jordanzakarin/man-of-steel-destruction-death-analysis
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Looks like a monument with thousands of names inscribed with pillars has been raised in their honor.
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Snyder/Nolan/Goyer's Superman is just so chock full of fun, that I can't wait for the next installment.
Marvel Unlimited have just added 500 Star Wars comics to their library.
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I see they also seem to have the series based on one of the first script drafts. :w00t:
Quote from: Syt on April 20, 2015, 12:35:13 PM
Marvel Unlimited have just added 500 Star Wars comics to their library.
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I love that show.
I loved the old Marvel stuff. The Zeltrons, the Nagai. the Hoojibs. All plenty of fun.
Zeltrons aka space sluts. :lol:
The old comics were awesome (well, some were silly, like Han Solo basically doing a Seven Samurai story in the first couple of issues with a giant green rabbit and Don-Wan Kihotay (http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Don-Wan_Kihotay)). :bleeding:
Quote from: Ideologue on April 19, 2015, 06:08:31 PM
Snyder/Nolan/Goyer's Superman is just so chock full of fun, that I can't wait for the next installment.
I had fun watching it. :)
Anyways, what surprised me a bit is that Marvel added a whole lot of comics from Dark Horse's run (they had the rights 1991 -2014), like Crimson Empire, Legacy or KotOR, so I guess Marvel either had a deal that those would revert to them when DH's license ran out, or they paid them for the rights as part of Disney/Marvel's Star Wars hype this year.
At any right, I have plenty of (re-)reading material.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on April 21, 2015, 01:11:51 AM
Quote from: Ideologue on April 19, 2015, 06:08:31 PM
Snyder/Nolan/Goyer's Superman is just so chock full of fun, that I can't wait for the next installment.
I had fun watching it. :)
I did too, but it had some awful tonal whiplashes. It's actually a pretty great movie if you deleted literally less than sixty seconds (maybe thirty) but that minute or half-minute sticks in the craw so bad...
I did not like the cinematography in it very much, in terms of its bled-dry palette, which really dulled the sense of wonder. I did look at the trailer for SvB, and that problem seems to have been largely corrected--it looks more like a Snyder film (more monochromed, but warm) than a Nolan one (simply gray, and cold), which is good, if still pretty far from ideal.
However, I thought they couldn't possibly do a Batman voice more laughable than Bale's bellowing. Dear Lord. You hire Ben Affleck, just... let the man fucking speak.
That would be wicked awesome if Batman talked like Tim.
Quote from: Ideologue on April 21, 2015, 05:07:52 AM
However, I thought they couldn't possibly do a Batman voice more laughable than Bale's bellowing. Dear Lord. You hire Ben Affleck, just... let the man fucking speak.
He's one of the most famous billionaires in America. I don't think him using a voice modulator is too out there.
It's not, but I'd prefer to simply suspend my disbelief.
http://www.dorkly.com/post/73999/marvel-revealed-iceman-is-gay-and-it-makes-complete-sense
:lol:
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Best part is that he was playing Superman in that movie. :D
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on April 21, 2015, 05:09:45 AM
That would be wicked awesome if Batman talked like Tim.
Gotham is canonically in Southern New Jersey, so he should probably talk like Governor Christie! :lol:
Quote from: garbon on April 22, 2015, 01:21:53 PM
http://www.dorkly.com/post/73999/marvel-revealed-iceman-is-gay-and-it-makes-complete-sense
I was about to post that.
I know that old comic covers were designed to sell issues and not necessarily to be an accurate representation of the content. Still, the Star Wars movie adaptation covers are partly a bit bizarre:
Death Star shooting at rebel base, and Han giving up:
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Luke defending Leia with his lightsaber against Vader (and they're both left handed); also - Vader's codpiece:
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And possibly the most bizarre of the six:
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Is that last one supposed to be in Mos Eisley? :lol:
Luke looks an awful lot like He-Man.
That's what comics covers do. A comic book cover is like a movie trailer: It gives you an idea of what's going to happen, but it's usually overdramatized or slightly altered for marketing purposes.
The cantina massacre is still hilarious, though.
And Marvel just dumped another load of Star Wars comics on Unlimited, over 200. I was about to cancel my subscription, but now I'm more than covered for a few months (I typically read one or two per day, working myself through the old Marvel stuff atm).
Secret Wars has won me over.
I read that I should start with Hickman's Avengers & New Avengers.
I have done so, we will see if I can get into Super Hero stuff.
Any non-super hero comics recommendation? say a la DMZ?
Walking Dead would be an obvious recommendation (the plot is different between show and comic).
Northlanders for some Viking bloodshed. Transmetropolitan for Hunter S. Thompson in a whacky future that satirizes ca. 2000 politics/society. Sandman if you like Neil Gaiman. Or Preacher, though the series is meandering a bit, and has a bit of mood whiplash between serious character drama and whacky goofy stuff. League of Extraordinary Gentlemen 1 & 2 is also very good; the other books in the setting are it and miss IMO.
Holy Crap! Archie vs the Predator is out and it is beyond fantastic! :lmfao:
Does Archie bore the Predator to death talking about his girl "troubles"?
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on May 21, 2015, 06:22:57 AM
Does Archie bore the Predator to death talking about his girl "troubles"?
Jughead beats him at the most dangerous game of all: hamburger eating contest.
Nope, it's played straight. :lol:
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He killed Jughead! What a dick.
Guess that ride was an emotional roller coaster.
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Quote from: jimmy olsen on May 24, 2015, 07:44:20 PM
Guess that ride was an emotional roller coaster.
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http://www.geek.com/news/all-new-all-different-marvel-will-have-a-new-hulk-and-a-lady-wolverine-1624539/
QuoteAll-New All-Different Marvel will have a new Hulk and a lady Wolverine
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Currently running in Marvel comics is the summer crossover event "Secret Wars." At the end of Secret Wars, the existing Marvel Comics Universe and all the twisted continuity that came with it will be shaken up and rearranged.
The new initiative being launched this fall is called "All-New All-Different," and will introduce somewhere between 55 to 60 new titles to the Marvel line-up of comics after Secret Wars mucks around with everything for the summer. The All-New All-Different characters will mostly be updated versions of fan classics, and some are well-liked characters from spin-offs and alternate universes that will now share an inter-connected world with legacy characters like Steve Rogers and Doctor Strange.
The comics themselves are still concerned with Secret Wars, but Marvel has begun rolling out the teasers for All-New All-Different and along with those teaser images some drastic reveals.
The first teaser image released is basically the collection of popular Marvel characters of the comics and the current season of Disney live-action movies.
There are three Spider-People: a classic Spider-Man, because you don't mess with what works.
The white and pink hooded Spider-Woman is Gwen Stacy, or as she's affectionately been named by the fandom, Spider-Gwen. This Spider is from an alternate universe where Gwen Stacy was bitten by the radioactive spider, not Peter Parker. She debuted in the Spider-Man event called "Spider-Verse" and has been buoyed through into All-New All-Different by positive sales and fan reaction. The black suited Spider-Man is Miles Morales, the younger Brooklynite from the Ultimate line of Marvel comics where Peter Parker died as a teenager and Miles took on the Spider-Man mantle after he was bitten by a second Oscorp spider.
To the left of Iron Man is Phil Coulson, a character played by Clark Gregg on screen but also adapted into the comics as fans latched on to his character in the movies. Spider-Woman is in the back there, but in her new costume that isn't all about putting her boobs front and center (also reminiscent of the great Batgirl redesign from DC's New 52 a few years back). Kneeling in front is The Black Panther, and next to him are Sam Wilson and Steve Rogers. Wilson used to be the Falcon, but became Captain America after Steve Rogers' super soldier serum started wearing off and Rogers rapidly aged. These two characters look similar to their pre-Secret Wars portrayals, but its nice to see them back considering Old Steve Rogers recently died in the comics fighting Tony Stark.
Speaking of Tony Stark: you have to be paranoid of anything claiming to be "All-New" and "Different" while still keeping characters masked. Is that Tony in the Iron Man suit? Is that T'Challa in the Black Panther costume? Is that Peter Parker under the Spider-Man mask? It's too early to tell.
To the right of Iron Man, in the air, is The Vision: the best thing about Avengers: Age of Ultron. On the ground, being tiny, is Ant-Man who looks much more like the Paul Rudd movie version than Ant-Man has looked before. Jane Foster's Thor spins her hammer. Yeah, the character Natalie Portman plays in the movies has become the Norse God. Not only that, but her comic book sales are better than Man Thor's ever were. Kamala Kahn, the new Muslim Ms. Marvel is another high-selling character getting featured status and...
...wait, is that Red Hawk? From the Apache Kid?
Marvel released a SECOND image, this one even debuts the "new Wolverine:" actually two Wolverines!
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Starting with the characters in the air: in the top left is Doctor Spectrum, Great Society version. He's a hero from an alternate universe that Doctor Strange killed during Jonathan Hickman's New Avengers run. Hyperion, also made important in Hickman's long road to Secret Wars, but only there (this is not, like, King Hyperion or any of the old characters who went by that name). A black-suited Daredevil, which we haven't seen for awhile in the comics, but looks very dynamic. Top right is Doctor Strange who...usually doesn't wield an axe, so that's All-New All-Different.
The middle row has some deep cuts, so bear with me. On the left is Citizen V, or Captain America villain Baron Zemo's alter ego when he was working for the Thunderbolts (Marvel's version of the Suicide Squad). The Thing from the Fantastic Four is wearing a Guardians of the Galaxy uniform and Rocket Raccoon is standing on his shoulders, indicating The Thing might be a Guardian now (in the comics only, obviously). The guy with his hood up is a redesigned Karnack, a member of the Inhumans royal family. The guy that's on fire is NOT the Human Torch, but is the Inhuman called Inferno.
The red-haired lady to the right of Iron Man is Medusa, an Inhuman and the favorite bride of Black Bolt, King of the Inhumans. The lady Wolverine is X-23, a female clone of Wolverine that was introduced in the X-Men: Evolution animated series and has since become a presence in the comic books. This is the first time she's taken on a costume that's unmistakably Wolverine though. The dude rubbing the back of his head is what Star Lord from the Guardians of the Galaxy looks like. At the far right – your eyes aren't deceiving you – is Old Man Logan, and old Wolverine. The character was created by Mark Millar for a mini-series called Old Man Logan that took place in an post-apocalyptic Avengers America. It looks like he's going to be ported over from his alternate universe as well.
That's a lot to take in, but it looks like the All-New, All-Different rollout is going to continue, because there are still characters Marvel's Editor and Chief Axel Alonso has hinted at that we haven't seen. The all-new Hulk ... this character is certain to cause debate," he told Mashable. "The same people who went crazy with female Thor will have a field day with this one."
I have no idea what that means.
Rainbow Hulk smash?
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Gay Hulk confirmed? :hmm:
Well, it was a good run. But I guess Marvel is finally coming to an end. When you're taking DC as a model for the direction your company should be taking, you have problems.
Still, I suppose the issue is now Marvel is taking directions from corporate headquarters, the way DC always had to with Warner Brothers. It makes sense that they would follow the same path, since people with MBAs aren't very good at managing IP, and don't have much in the way of creativity.
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QuoteIn a world where Oliver Cromwell lived ten years longer than he did in our world, the United States of America is a commonwealth nation run by a corrupt theocratic government.
Twenty-two years after the death of his parents, Bruce Wayne has moved on and is planning to join the clergy, when he is visited by his friend James Gordon. Gordon was the inquisitor who was investigating Thomas and Martha Wayne's murder, and has come to tell Bruce the truth about what happened. Their deaths were not a random mugging, but a state-planned execution. Despite Thomas' position as physician to the Privy Council, both were anti-government radicals who ran a clinic for the many victims of the government's brutality and brainwashing. Those they treated were men and women who were subjects of experiments to alter their sexual orientation, women who tried to perform abortions on themselves, and prostitutes psychologically scarred by aversion therapy. Bruce consults a former friend of his parents, Dr. Charles McNider, who confirms the truth about his parents, and that of many others who were killed by the state. McNider, a broken man who lost both his wife and his eyesight, tells Bruce about a government conspiracy called "the Green Man", but warns Bruce that nothing good has come of fighting the system.
Bruce, unsatisfied, starts a crusade to hunt down those who killed his parents. After his ordination as a priest, Bruce unearths a costume his father once wore in a passion play, a garb shaped like a bat. Hacking into government files, he hunts down one of the Privy Council members for information, and learns that the ones who arranged the death sentence were actually the Star Chamber, the highest court in the government.
Doing more detective work, Bruce finally finds out the Star Chamber's location, and in the process finds a government testing facility filled with human guinea pigs. He helps free a man with super-speed named Barry Allen, and Bruce learns more about what the government is capable of. There are men and women who were put through the same process that gave Barry his speed abilities, but none of the results were successful. There are victims of gene-splicing and people exposed to radiation. The two are then attacked by a witch converted to the state, a woman who pronounces spells backwards. The fight costs the life of one of the experimentees, and Barry is killed by the head scientist, Dr. Saul Erdel, Erdel having developed a means of negating the protective aura that allowed Barry to run at superspeed without being destroyed by the friction. Erdel has another of his agents, a man named Matthew with clay-like abilities, capture Bruce and bring him to see "Project Green Man". Project Green Man was an extraterrestrial child found in a rocket ship by a couple in Kansas, who was raised by the state and studied. The older he became, the stronger and more difficult to control he became, until they had to kill him with an irradiated rock they found in the rocket ship. Bruce is filled with an overwhelming sense of sadness when he sees this dead alien, as if the world's greatest hope was destroyed. Enraged, Bruce breaks free and attacks Erdel. Erdel tries to shoot at Bruce, but the bullets bounce off the alien's corpse and kills Erdel.
Bruce, at long last, finds the Star Chamber, and confronts one of its members about his parents. But the chamberman tells him that everyone ever sentenced to death by the Chamber were put to death by nameless vote. Bruce no longer finds a reason to kill the chamberman, because it was the system that was responsible for the deaths of his parents. He vows to bring it down once and for all, no matter how long it will take.
With a new cause, and motivated by God, Bruce continues to fight against the government as the Batman, but wonders if everything might have been different if his parents had truly been the victims of a random mugging, all those years ago.
Characters[edit]
Batman: Reverend Bruce Wayne of Gotham, who becomes the Batman to take down the government responsible for murdering his parents.[1]
James Gordon: An Inquisitor who was the investigator for the deaths of Thomas and Martha Wayne. James learned who was responsible, but was threatened by his superiors to overlook it. Twenty years later, James finally told Bruce the truth to ease his guilty conscience.
Joseph Chill: A convict who was released by the government to kill Thomas and Martha Wayne and make it look like a mugging. He dies in a prison fight after James Gordon finally identifies him.
Thomas and Martha Wayne: Parents of Bruce Wayne. Thomas worked as personal physician to the Privy Council, but both he and his wife worked against the government in secret.
Barry Allen: A former forensics expert who gained super-speed abilities in a freak lab accident over a year ago. He is turned over to Dr. Saul Erdel as an experiment.
Dr. Saul Erdel: A Jewish scientist who oversaw "Project Green Man", who is portrayed as amoral and mildy sadistic character within this story line.
The Green Man: An alien man who was a ward of the state for many years, until they finally had to kill him for being too difficult to handle.
The Witch: An unnamed witch who spoke spells backwards. She was converted to the state and tried to kill Barry Allen and Bruce.
Charles McNider: A blind old man who was friends with Thomas and Martha Wayne. Charles was blinded by an agent of the state, and later lost his wife, Myra.
Alan Scott: A former friend of Charles McNider. Alan was executed for running an underground radio station.
Carter and Shiera Hall: Former friends of Charles McNider. They were archaeologists who tried to smuggle weapons into the country and were executed for it.
Rex Tyler: Former friend of Charles McNider. Tyler was executed for manufacturing drugs for the Waynes' clinic.
Alfred Pennyworth: Former butler to the Waynes. Leaves when Bruce sells Wayne Manor to join the clergy.
Lemuel Brown: Former member of the Privy Council which Thomas Wayne worked for. After Bruce interrogates him, he dresses Lemuel in a maid's uniform to discredit any testimony he might give regarding the Batman's existence.
Judson Caspian: A bishop who Bruce works with in the clergy. Bruce refers to him as a good and honorable man, and hates having to betray his trust to get information on the state.
Arthur: One of the many human guinea pigs belonging to the state. Arthur could breathe underwater and had limited telepathic abilities. They succeeded in breaking him, just not in the way they wanted. They even tried mating him with another merwoman named Lori.
Matthew: Dr. Erdel's mindless servant. Was once a smuggler who was exposed to a weird protoplasam which turned him into a malleable clayface.
Victoria Vale: An anchorwoman for Newsbreak.
Oliver Queen: An industrialist who was hanged for treason.
:rolleyes:
:lol:
Poor Oliver Cromwell.
Quote from: Valmy on July 09, 2015, 02:08:51 PM
:lol:
Poor Oliver Cromwell.
He lived ten more years and founded a lasting government, seems like he did okay. :P
I just discovered Marvel Unlimited so I started reading comics again. I love Kamala Khan. She is adorable. But boy is there a lot to fucking catch up on.
Quote from: Korea on July 11, 2015, 08:18:03 PM
I just discovered Marvel Unlimited so I started reading comics again. I love Kamala Khan. She is adorable. But boy is there a lot to fucking catch up on.
Korea? Or Ide..?
Quote from: jimmy olsen on July 11, 2015, 10:25:06 PM
Quote from: Korea on July 11, 2015, 08:18:03 PM
I just discovered Marvel Unlimited so I started reading comics again. I love Kamala Khan. She is adorable. But boy is there a lot to fucking catch up on.
Korea? Or Ide..?
Lol, why would it be Ide???
Quote from: Korea on July 11, 2015, 08:18:03 PM
I just discovered Marvel Unlimited
It's pretty great, but creates a huge amount of archive panic in me. :lol:
I'm currently reading Ultimate X-Men and Star Wars comics.
Yeah, I got a bit overwhelmed with it. Currently trying to get caught up on Avengers stuff but I keep seeing references to shit I don't understand so I have to go back and read comics from different story lines...I'm just all over the place with Thor, Captain America, Iron Man, New Avengers, Secret Wars...etc etc etc...It's a bit much.
I wish I could find more Dr. Strange comics or comics with magicky shit though.
What you can do is read the comic events (they're under "browse"). They contain the main series and any tie ins (so Civil War is ca. 100 comics). The events are not in chronological order, but you can look it up on Wikipedia.
Myself, I try not to get hung up on continuity too much. E.g. I loved X-Men in the 80s. However, later on there was like a dozen of concurrent X-Something series that overlapped and what not. Screw that.
It's like a soap opera where you come in after a couple hundred/thousand episodes. You don't start watching all the old episodes to get up to speed (though in the case of comics, checking out some events that interest you might be worth it).
Alternatively, look at their weekly releases (which are usually ~6 months old) and pick running series you like and read up on them.
But yeah, some series are a bit incomplete. Punisher chronology is pretty patchy. Not sure what other magic comics there are in Marvel, though.
Btw, SF Debris is currently running a series about the comics business since the 80s: http://sfdebris.com/videos/special.php
So the boys are big superhero fans, and I decided it might be fun to go buy a comic book or two to go read with the boys. So I walked into a comic book shop for the first time in, oh, 20 years?
I walked out with two books that I thought the boys might like. First was Adventures of Superman. I quick flip through made it seem like it would be good for a 3 and 5 year old. But on reading, while the story was fairly clean of gratuitous language or excessive violence, the storyline itself seemed too complicated for them.
The second book however... Batman '66. They loved it. :punk:
Quote from: Korea on July 11, 2015, 11:22:04 PM
Lol, why would it be Ide???
Maybe he hasn't upgraded his computer since you split up.
Quote from: Syt on July 12, 2015, 06:24:02 AM
Btw, SF Debris is currently running a series about the comics business since the 80s: http://sfdebris.com/videos/special.php
I've been following that. Chuck's about the only Blip guy I routinely follow anymore.
Yeah, he's pretty good at what he does.
I'm actually enjoying Ultimate X-Men far more than I thought I would (I tried other Ultimate series before and usually bumped off).
Apparently Gotham is going to be across the bay from Metropolis in BvS.
http://www.wired.com/2015/07/dawn-of-justice-gotham-metropolis/ (http://www.wired.com/2015/07/dawn-of-justice-gotham-metropolis/)
Despite, what the above article says, that's often been the case in the comics, and I'm surprised, but pleased they're going with it here. That's the way it should be.
So Metropolis = Frisco and Gotham = Oakland?
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on July 18, 2015, 07:21:58 AM
So Metropolis = Frisco and Gotham = Oakland?
Yeah, but on the East Coast. NYC vs NJ.
Metropolis, DE and Gotham, NJ. That's been my conception of it.
I do like those older comics where it appears Smallville is in Maryland.
Starlord, you shmuck :lol:
http://www.hitfix.com/harpy/star-lord-and-kitty-pryde-are-living-in-the-darkest-timeline-in-their-new-comic
Just watched the 2010 short, Superman, Shazam and the Return of Black Adam. It was a nice Captain Marvel origin story.
Can Ide or any of you guys recommend any particular run of his to read?
Captain Marvel? DC kind of wrecked he and Mary Marvel in the last years.
There is no Captain Marvel at DC comics wags.
Quote from: katmai on July 28, 2015, 09:25:29 AM
There is no Captain Marvel at DC comics wags.
Well, he used to be called that before they made his catch phrase his name (to avoid issues with Marvel's Captain Marvel).
:yes:
I was just trying to make sure wags doesn't get sued by Disney.
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on July 28, 2015, 09:17:44 AM
Captain Marvel? DC kind of wrecked he and Mary Marvel in the last years.
Thankfully there are decades worth of material to choose from.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on July 28, 2015, 07:03:07 AM
Just watched the 2010 short, Superman, Shazam and the Return of Black Adam. It was a nice Captain Marvel origin story.
Can Ide or any of you guys recommend any particular run of his to read?
There's a Starman/Power of Shazam crossover from the 1990s that isn't really that great, but does have one great book in it, where Captain Marvel comes to Opal City and is forced by circumstance to beat the ever-loving shit out of Jack Knight. Fantastic Tony Harris art.
Looked at a page from that Starlord/Kitty Pryde book. Good grief, contemporary comics can be ugly, can't they?
Quote from: jimmy olsen on July 28, 2015, 09:49:30 AM
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on July 28, 2015, 09:17:44 AM
Captain Marvel? DC kind of wrecked he and Mary Marvel in the last years.
Thankfully there are decades worth of material to choose from.
as a DC product he really has only been around from 72-78, then rift after crisis mid 80's and then early 90's stuff.
Quote from: Ideologue on July 28, 2015, 09:55:45 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on July 28, 2015, 07:03:07 AM
Just watched the 2010 short, Superman, Shazam and the Return of Black Adam. It was a nice Captain Marvel origin story.
Can Ide or any of you guys recommend any particular run of his to read?
There's a Starman/Power of Shazam crossover from the 1990s that isn't really that great, but does have one great book in it, where Captain Marvel comes to Opal City and is forced by circumstance to beat the ever-loving shit out of Jack Knight. Fantastic Tony Harris art.
Looked at a page from that Starlord/Kitty Pryde book. Good grief, contemporary comics can be ugly, can't they?
Nope, at least not this example
Meh. I didn't like the layouts. The linework is maybe functional. Coloring isn't technically bad, although it's not attractive. Also you can see the deadline-driven compromises.
:lol:
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Squirrel Girl won a date with Thor :D
http://www.bleedingcool.com/2015/08/19/when-squirrel-girl-named-each-and-every-one-of-thors-abs/
I like Garth Ennis's writing, and Steve Dillon's art, and Preacher is one of my favorite comic books ever - Cassidy's character arc is simply awesome.
And while I've read and liked Ennis's 2004 run on Punisher (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Punisher_(2004_series)) for some reason I've not read his collaboration with Steve Dillon on the subject starting in 2000.
I'm mostly reading it on the subway on my phone, and three issues in I'm getting rather worried that fellow travelers think I'm crazy because I keep grinning and laughing all the time. :blush:
:lol:
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I always knew Spidey was black.
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I always knew Spidey was black.
Doesn't everyone?
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Comics can be so ridiculous, I have no idea if this cover is real or not.
EDIT: Wait, these are marvel properties, so fake.
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Pakistanian. :bleeding: :lol:
The Starfire book that came out last year is amazing. A much needed reboot from the New 52 atrocity. She's like an adorable older version of the Starfire from the classic Teen Titans cartoon.
This painting is titled "Parlor tricks for the rabble" :D
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So I wonder if Malthus thinks of his aunt's new endeavor.
Quote from: katmai on September 08, 2016, 12:37:19 AM
So I wonder if Malthus thinks of his aunt's new endeavor.
Juggling on a unicycle is impressive, but I can't help thinking she might be a bit old to join the circus.
Quote from: katmai on September 08, 2016, 12:37:19 AM
So I wonder if Malthus thinks of his aunt's new endeavor.
Interesting, I didn't know she was doing that.
Damn, this new Flintstones comic sounds dark as hell
http://www.slate.com/articles/arts/books/2017/04/mark_russell_and_steve_pugh_s_comic_book_reboot_of_the_flintstones_reviewed.html
Have you guys read the story of the Indonesian Marvel artist that slipped messages from an Indonesian political/religious controversy in a number of the X Men he drew?
QuoteMarvel will discipline an X-Men artist after controversial references to protests in Indonesia
The protests are backed by hard-line Islamic groups
An Indonesian comic book artist has generated controversy over the inclusion of several references to a religious and political conflict within his home country. Ardian Syaf, currently the artist for X-Men: Gold, has been criticized for including the images, which have prompted Marvel to issue a statement saying that he would be disciplined and that upcoming reprints of the book will be altered.
Disciplined? What exactly do you have to do to get fired by Marvel?
Quote from: The Brain on April 13, 2017, 04:17:35 AM
Disciplined? What exactly do you have to do to get fired by Marvel?
That was an early article, the expresion I've read more often about it is "career suicide", and the artist seems to think that'll be the case:
QuoteArdian Syaf On X-Men Gold Controversy: "My Career Is Over Now"
He's been fired:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/article/39576705/marvel-fires-artist-ardian-syaf-over-religious-references-in-x-men-comic-book
The references he made are pretty bigoted, so it seems warranted.
Yeah, I saw that. You'd think he'd at least try to play it off as a coincidence, but he's just "Yup, I did it".
If you're going to work in religious references into your contract work, you should be doing something more innocuous than "christians and jews are out to destroy us" drivel.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/books/news/female-marvel-comics-editor-harassed-online-milkshake-selfie/
QuoteFemale Marvel Comics editor harassed online for milkshake selfie
Heather Antos, an editor for Marvel Comics, has been deluged with abuse online after posting an image of herself drinking milkshakes with six female Marvel employees, with a caption reading "It's the Marvel milkshake crew! #FabulousFlo" – the latter referencing the recent death of the legendary female Marvel publisher Flo Steinberg.
For the crime of consuming cold beverages while being female, Antos was then attacked across social media and via email and her Twitter direct messages by angry Marvel fans, who used the image as an opportunity to rant about "Social Justice Warriors", "fake geek girls" and feminism.
"Can we just get off of feminism and social justice and actually print stories," one person tweeted, to reiterate, in response to women drinking milkshakes. He was joined by replies that included "Looks like a bunch of SWJ's to me" and "How all these Tumblr SJW fake geek girls club are editors at Marvel?"
Another tweeted "I would totally bang the girl in front," which lead one to reply, "Better have her sign a consent form, she looks like the 'false rape charge' type."
Antos condemned the abuse the following day, writing that "the internet is an awful, horrible, and disgusting place." She added, "Woke up today to a slew of more garbage tweets and DMs. For being a woman. In comics. Who posted a selfie of her friends getting milkshakes."
She was quickly backed up by an abundance of supporters, however, many of whom posted their own milkshake-drinking selfies under the hashtag "#MakeMineMilkshake".
But the incident has once again ignited a firestorm of discussion about the prevalence of abusive responses to both gender and racial diversity in the comic book world, and the recent increase in female staffers.
Chelsea Cain, the writer behind the female superhero comic book Mockingbird, left Twitter in October 2016 following months of harassment, while Zainab Akhtar, a British-Muslim writer, closed her Eisner Award-winning comic book journalism site Comics & Cola last year after being deluged with racist, misogynistic abuse via email and social media.
It also follows an April scandal in which Marvel's VP of Sales David Gabriel appeared to blame character diversity for the company's recent sales decline. While Gabriel's stance was music to the ears of a minority of comic book fandom, others rallied, blaming the company's insistence on crossovers and stories that require the purchasing of multiple different books, and criticising Gabriel for seemingly using non-white characters as an easy scapegoat for the across-the-boards Marvel sales decline.
"During the discussion, retailers pointed out during the summit that the number of Marvel events, and the fact that they overlap, make it hard for fans to focus," reported io9 at the time. "Right now, for instance, there's Secret Empire, which will bleed over with Generations, which starts this summer. In the past two years alone, there have been at least 12 events and crossovers. :bleeding: Events, in particular, have become more of a chore than a reward."
Gabriel later retracted his comments.
If anyone likes DC Comics and is near an Ollie's, they acquired a massive allotment of DC graphic novels and have them up for sale. Amazing discounts. I nabbed $375 worth of books for about $70.
been spending too much time on this website, grabbing sceenies for my own art project that is top secret and kind of for stoners.
http://comicbookplus.com (http://comicbookplus.com)
I read recently the collection that is Days of Future Past (X-Men). That was...terrible and I'm surprised they decided to mine the concept (though clearly not the plot) for a movie.
Humble currently has the complete run of The Walking Dead for cheap: https://www.humblebundle.com/books/walking-dead-image-comicsskybound-entertainment-books?hmb_source=navbar&hmb_medium=product_tile&hmb_campaign=tile_index_1
I have about half the books in physical form, might as well pick these up till I buy the rest in hard copy. Still haven't watched the show, which diverges significantly from the books (Kirkman argued he wanted to keep things fresh and interesting for comic book readers).
There is a rather lovely interview with Brian Bolland that came out a couple of days ago on the 2000ad website. I'm in a Brian Bolland appreciation group on facebook that also has as a member....Brian Bolland, and I'm happy to report that he is forthcoming, thoughtful, very active and an all around perfect gentleman. For the uninitiated its this guy...
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The generation of British and European artists that created the 2000ad legend in the late 70's and subsequently "invaded" America in the early 80's has become long of tooth and sadly some of my greatest heros have passed away in recent years. Happily Bolland is a young 69 and working away.
Interview here:
https://2000ad.com/news/the-2000-ad-thrill-cast-lockdown-tapes-brian-bolland/ (https://2000ad.com/news/the-2000-ad-thrill-cast-lockdown-tapes-brian-bolland/)
But wait, there's more British comics goodness...an interview with notorious curmudgeon, bonkers genius and pioneer Brendan McCarthy. McCarthy has been my absolute favorite comic book artist for most of my life. He has a wonderful fluid style a sort of lysergic fine arts approach to making comic books that's a real thrill. He is most well known outside of comic books for the most recent Mad Max which he wrote and substantially designed. It's fun to watch that movie as a McCarthy fan, because he is all over the screen.
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BBC on Mad Max:
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-highlands-islands-30781744 (https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-highlands-islands-30781744)
The interview is on Jim Rugg and Ed Piskors brilliant, brilliant youtube channel of comics criticism, interviews and reviews. The absolute best Youtube channel out there!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=No57Ta3DgrQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=No57Ta3DgrQ)
There's a new Sandman box set out - with the collected 30th Anniversary Edition issues. I was missing the last few volumes, and was looking into replacing the ones I had, so this came at the right time. It was €190 when I ordered, but the price dropped to €150 on launch, so got a refund on it. Yay. It's books 1-10, Endless Nights, Dream Hunters 1+2, and Overture.
The books themselves are of pretty good quality (definitely better than the normal paperbacks I've had), though stay away if you don't like the slightly glossy paper.
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(Pictures not mine)