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Title: Person of the Year? Who Should It Be
Post by: jimmy olsen on December 03, 2012, 12:39:05 AM
Here are the candidates time is looking at.


People I thought should be actually considered I bolded. Feel free to throw in your own candidates.
http://www.time.com/time/person-of-the-year/2012/

QuoteKim Jong Un
Mohamed Morsi

Malala Yousafzai
Psy
The Mars Rover
Stephen Colbert
Bashar Assad
Undocumented Immigrants
Barack Obama
The Higgs Boson Particle
Felix Baumgartner
Jon Stewart
Pussy Riot
Hillary Clinton
Aung San Suu Kyi and Thein Sein

Bill Clinton
Michael Phelps
Gabby Douglas
Sandra Fluke
Ai Weiwei
Joe Biden
Chris Christie
John Roberts
Mitt Romney
Marissa Mayer
Mo Farah
Benjamin Netanyahu
Michael Bloomberg
Paul Ryan
Jay-Z
Tim Cook
Mario Draghi
Xi Jinping
Bo Xilai

Sheldon Adelson
E.L. James
Karl Rove
Roger Goodell
Title: Re: Person of the Year? Who Should It Be
Post by: garbon on December 03, 2012, 12:39:37 AM
Susan Rice
Title: Re: Person of the Year? Who Should It Be
Post by: DGuller on December 03, 2012, 01:32:35 AM
Nate Silver.
Title: Re: Person of the Year? Who Should It Be
Post by: Habbaku on December 03, 2012, 01:35:30 AM
You.
Title: Re: Person of the Year? Who Should It Be
Post by: DGuller on December 03, 2012, 01:50:07 AM
Quote from: Habbaku on December 03, 2012, 01:35:30 AM
You.
Thanks, but I already was Person of the Year once.  Let's give someone else a chance.
Title: Re: Person of the Year? Who Should It Be
Post by: DGuller on December 03, 2012, 01:52:20 AM
I think Putin should be up there.  This is the year when he finally dispensed with the pretense of democracy with a strong leader, and made a play to be a full out autocrat.
Title: Re: Person of the Year? Who Should It Be
Post by: Valmy on December 03, 2012, 02:04:43 AM
I guess Xi Jinping, though with how the CPC transfer of power goes that was hardly a shocking turn of events.  Oh for the days when things would be going along boringly then Mao would do something crazy out of the blue and fuck the place up for a few years.  Sure there were millions of dead but it sure made it more entertainig.
Title: Re: Person of the Year? Who Should It Be
Post by: Josquius on December 03, 2012, 03:22:37 AM
I guess Asaad seems the logical one considering Syria has been ever-present in the news.

As has Elizabeth II, should be her.  :bowler:
Title: Re: Person of the Year? Who Should It Be
Post by: jimmy olsen on December 03, 2012, 03:29:25 AM
Quote from: garbon on December 03, 2012, 12:39:37 AM
Susan Rice
You can't possibly be serious.
Title: Re: Person of the Year? Who Should It Be
Post by: Tamas on December 03, 2012, 03:30:59 AM
the Mars Rover!
Title: Re: Person of the Year? Who Should It Be
Post by: Admiral Yi on December 03, 2012, 04:03:07 AM
Quote from: Valmy on December 03, 2012, 02:04:43 AM
I guess Xi Jinping

It would really help those Chinese dude's chances if they didn't look like they came off an assembly line.  I haven't been able to tell one Chinese bigwig from another since Deng Xiaping.
Title: Re: Person of the Year? Who Should It Be
Post by: DGuller on December 03, 2012, 04:08:43 AM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on December 03, 2012, 04:03:07 AM
Quote from: Valmy on December 03, 2012, 02:04:43 AM
I guess Xi Jinping

It would really help those Chinese dude's chances if they didn't look like they came off an assembly line.  I haven't been able to tell one Chinese bigwig from another since Deng Xiaping.
That's raciss!
Title: Re: Person of the Year? Who Should It Be
Post by: dps on December 03, 2012, 07:35:23 AM
Quote from: DGuller on December 03, 2012, 04:08:43 AM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on December 03, 2012, 04:03:07 AM
Quote from: Valmy on December 03, 2012, 02:04:43 AM
I guess Xi Jinping

It would really help those Chinese dude's chances if they didn't look like they came off an assembly line.  I haven't been able to tell one Chinese bigwig from another since Deng Xiaping.
That's raciss!

Nah, it's agist.  Once you're about 800 years old, you look pretty much like any other 800 year-old, regardless of race.
Title: Re: Person of the Year? Who Should It Be
Post by: Grey Fox on December 03, 2012, 07:46:24 AM
Joe Biden, dude is awesome.
Title: Re: Person of the Year? Who Should It Be
Post by: Richard Hakluyt on December 03, 2012, 07:49:27 AM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on December 03, 2012, 04:03:07 AM
Quote from: Valmy on December 03, 2012, 02:04:43 AM
I guess Xi Jinping

It would really help those Chinese dude's chances if they didn't look like they came off an assembly line.  I haven't been able to tell one Chinese bigwig from another since Deng Xiaping.

Yes. They are simply not memorable.
Title: Re: Person of the Year? Who Should It Be
Post by: garbon on December 03, 2012, 08:19:46 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on December 03, 2012, 03:29:25 AM
Quote from: garbon on December 03, 2012, 12:39:37 AM
Susan Rice
You can't possibly be serious.

Why not? It would be keeping in line with honoring black people simply for showing up. :)
Title: Re: Person of the Year? Who Should It Be
Post by: Darth Wagtaros on December 03, 2012, 08:44:20 AM
Lindsey Lohan
Title: Re: Person of the Year? Who Should It Be
Post by: Martinus on December 03, 2012, 08:55:34 AM
Me. I don't mind getting the award again.
Title: Re: Person of the Year? Who Should It Be
Post by: Martinus on December 03, 2012, 08:56:49 AM
QuoteBenjamin Netanyahu

:lmfao:
Title: Re: Person of the Year? Who Should It Be
Post by: Liep on December 03, 2012, 09:11:25 AM
Only two contenders according to the website poll, and Kim Jung Un is beating that beat up Afghani girl by a small margin.
Title: Re: Person of the Year? Who Should It Be
Post by: Ed Anger on December 03, 2012, 09:32:49 AM
QuoteSandra Fluke

Ugly cunt who couldn't get more than a dozen people to see she campaign stops. Plus, WHORE PILLS.
Title: Re: Person of the Year? Who Should It Be
Post by: Caliga on December 03, 2012, 09:54:30 AM
Quote from: Liep on December 03, 2012, 09:11:25 AM
Kim Jung Un
OPEN CONDOM STORE  :cool:
Title: Re: Person of the Year? Who Should It Be
Post by: Tonitrus on December 03, 2012, 10:08:51 AM
If a mere particle can be Person of the Year...would that mean Time is taking a bold anti-abortion stance?  :P
Title: Re: Person of the Year? Who Should It Be
Post by: Valmy on December 03, 2012, 10:12:30 AM
Quote from: Martinus on December 03, 2012, 08:56:49 AM
QuoteBenjamin Netanyahu

:lmfao:

And that is more laughable than 80% of that list?  I mean Roger Goodell?  Paul Ryan?
Title: Re: Person of the Year? Who Should It Be
Post by: derspiess on December 03, 2012, 07:23:15 PM
Quote from: garbon on December 03, 2012, 08:19:46 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on December 03, 2012, 03:29:25 AM
Quote from: garbon on December 03, 2012, 12:39:37 AM
Susan Rice
You can't possibly be serious.

Why not? It would be keeping in line with honoring black people simply for showing up. :)

Well, she did accomplish the unthinkable:  making me feel relieved at hearing John Kerry's name mentioned as a possible Secretary of State.
Title: Re: Person of the Year? Who Should It Be
Post by: 11B4V on December 03, 2012, 08:35:06 PM
Quote from: DGuller on December 03, 2012, 01:32:35 AM
Nate Silver.

+1
Title: Re: Person of the Year? Who Should It Be
Post by: garbon on December 19, 2012, 10:31:59 AM
It's Obama.
Title: Re: Person of the Year? Who Should It Be
Post by: merithyn on December 19, 2012, 10:33:53 AM
Quote from: garbon on December 19, 2012, 10:31:59 AM
It's Obama.

Not sure I agree with that. To be perfectly honest, I'd pick Nate Silver over Obama this year.
Title: Re: Person of the Year? Who Should It Be
Post by: PDH on December 19, 2012, 10:38:07 AM
Quote from: merithyn on December 19, 2012, 10:33:53 AM
Not sure I agree with that. To be perfectly honest, I'd pick Nate Silver over Obama this year.

:rolleyes:  Just because he is gay.  Marti-lover
Title: Re: Person of the Year? Who Should It Be
Post by: merithyn on December 19, 2012, 10:57:18 AM
Quote from: PDH on December 19, 2012, 10:38:07 AM
Quote from: merithyn on December 19, 2012, 10:33:53 AM
Not sure I agree with that. To be perfectly honest, I'd pick Nate Silver over Obama this year.

:rolleyes:  Just because he is gay.  Marti-lover

Actually, no. It's because he's managed to show the value in information organization, data programming, and the overall value in mixed polls over individual polls. And he's not your typical hero. He's a little, gay, geeky guy who would have been spit on in my high school.

I admire him a great deal, and I feel like this year, he really earned Person of the Year.
Title: Re: Person of the Year? Who Should It Be
Post by: alfred russel on December 19, 2012, 11:04:08 AM
Quote from: merithyn on December 19, 2012, 10:57:18 AM
Actually, no. It's because he's managed to show the value in information organization, data programming, and the overall value in mixed polls over individual polls. And he's not your typical hero. He's a little, gay, geeky guy who would have been spit on in my high school.

I admire him a great deal, and I feel like this year, he really earned Person of the Year.

And until this point we didn't realize there was value in organization and data programming?

Substantively, he isn't anything more than the political version of Jimmy the Greek.
Title: Re: Person of the Year? Who Should It Be
Post by: merithyn on December 19, 2012, 11:07:48 AM
I don't expect everyone to agree with me. The question was who I thought should be the Person of the Year, not who would get everyone's approval. :mellow:
Title: Re: Person of the Year? Who Should It Be
Post by: alfred russel on December 19, 2012, 11:14:44 AM
Quote from: merithyn on December 19, 2012, 11:07:48 AM
I don't expect everyone to agree with me. The question was who I thought should be the Person of the Year, not who would get everyone's approval. :mellow:

:P
Title: Re: Person of the Year? Who Should It Be
Post by: DGuller on December 19, 2012, 12:28:56 PM
Quote from: merithyn on December 19, 2012, 11:07:48 AM
I don't expect everyone to agree with me. The question was who I thought should be the Person of the Year, not who would get everyone's approval. :mellow:
I would agree with you.  :)
Title: Re: Person of the Year? Who Should It Be
Post by: Phillip V on December 19, 2012, 12:33:48 PM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/603279_10151316680916749_2134471056_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Person of the Year? Who Should It Be
Post by: Admiral Yi on December 19, 2012, 12:36:27 PM
His impact on the world has been essentially zip.
Title: Re: Person of the Year? Who Should It Be
Post by: Ed Anger on December 19, 2012, 12:36:34 PM
Quote from: DGuller on December 19, 2012, 12:28:56 PM
Quote from: merithyn on December 19, 2012, 11:07:48 AM
I don't expect everyone to agree with me. The question was who I thought should be the Person of the Year, not who would get everyone's approval. :mellow:
I would agree with you.  :)

Everybody knows you've had your blueberries removed.
Title: Re: Person of the Year? Who Should It Be
Post by: Zanza on December 19, 2012, 12:45:04 PM
What did Obama achieve this year except for reelection?
Title: Re: Person of the Year? Who Should It Be
Post by: Valmy on December 19, 2012, 12:46:52 PM
Quote from: Zanza on December 19, 2012, 12:45:04 PM
What did Obama achieve this year except for reelection?

His drones achieved alot.
Title: Re: Person of the Year? Who Should It Be
Post by: derspiess on December 19, 2012, 12:55:55 PM
I have a fixation on that guy.
Title: Re: Person of the Year? Who Should It Be
Post by: PDH on December 19, 2012, 01:07:23 PM
Quote from: derspiess on December 19, 2012, 12:55:55 PM
I have a fixation on that guy.

Spiderman?
Title: Re: Person of the Year? Who Should It Be
Post by: derspiess on December 19, 2012, 01:13:58 PM
Quote from: PDH on December 19, 2012, 01:07:23 PM
Quote from: derspiess on December 19, 2012, 12:55:55 PM
I have a fixation on that guy.

Spiderman?

No.  Obama's mirror image.
Title: Re: Person of the Year? Who Should It Be
Post by: mongers on December 19, 2012, 01:16:24 PM
Where do I go to pick up the award ?
Title: Re: Person of the Year? Who Should It Be
Post by: Phillip V on December 19, 2012, 01:20:23 PM
Yeah, the TIME article mentions almost nothing about Obama's first term; just how impressed they are with how he won female, minority, and young voters (again). (https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fforum.paradoxplaza.com%2Fforum%2Fimages%2Fsmilies%2Frofl2.gif&hash=dcd4b9bc4776e21885226ef96c7f3f68daf36e00)
Title: Re: Person of the Year? Who Should It Be
Post by: Valmy on December 19, 2012, 01:23:37 PM
Pretty lame.  Time might as well make the Presidential election winner the Person of the Year every four years.
Title: Re: Person of the Year? Who Should It Be
Post by: merithyn on December 19, 2012, 01:26:11 PM
Quote from: Valmy on December 19, 2012, 01:23:37 PM
Pretty lame.  Time might as well make the Presidential election winner the Person of the Year every four years.

I have a feeling that this will only work if every four years Obama wins. Time seems to have quite the hard-on for him.
Title: Re: Person of the Year? Who Should It Be
Post by: Admiral Yi on December 19, 2012, 01:31:56 PM
He deserves another Peace Prize too.  It's been a while since the last one.
Title: Re: Person of the Year? Who Should It Be
Post by: Caliga on December 19, 2012, 01:33:31 PM
I agree.  We are at peace with a lot of countries right now, after all. :)
Title: Re: Person of the Year? Who Should It Be
Post by: Habbaku on December 19, 2012, 01:36:15 PM
With the ashes of Newsweek still smoldering, I guess Time has to try to make themselves look even sillier.
Title: Re: Person of the Year? Who Should It Be
Post by: CountDeMoney on December 19, 2012, 01:52:40 PM
Lulz, haters.

You're all just pissed that Time didn't pick "You" again.  :P
Title: Re: Person of the Year? Who Should It Be
Post by: 11B4V on December 19, 2012, 03:23:34 PM
Quote from: Zanza on December 19, 2012, 12:45:04 PM
What did Obama achieve this year except for reelection?

The near destruction of the GOP tards?
Title: Re: Person of the Year? Who Should It Be
Post by: garbon on December 19, 2012, 04:53:22 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on December 19, 2012, 03:23:34 PM
Quote from: Zanza on December 19, 2012, 12:45:04 PM
What did Obama achieve this year except for reelection?

The near destruction of the GOP tards?

:blink:
Title: Re: Person of the Year? Who Should It Be
Post by: Valmy on December 19, 2012, 04:54:44 PM
Quote from: garbon on December 19, 2012, 04:53:22 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on December 19, 2012, 03:23:34 PM
Quote from: Zanza on December 19, 2012, 12:45:04 PM
What did Obama achieve this year except for reelection?

The near destruction of the GOP tards?

:blink:

Obama's drones took out Hansmeister.
Title: Re: Person of the Year? Who Should It Be
Post by: derspiess on December 19, 2012, 04:58:31 PM
Upon some reflection I really don't have a problem with Obama being selected.  He had a pretty good year for himself and won a spectacular victory in November.
Title: Re: Person of the Year? Who Should It Be
Post by: Admiral Yi on December 19, 2012, 05:06:19 PM
IT'S A TRAP
Title: Re: Person of the Year? Who Should It Be
Post by: Phillip V on December 19, 2012, 05:09:22 PM
If Obama does well this term as promised, then he should justifiably be selected again in 2016.
Title: Re: Person of the Year? Who Should It Be
Post by: Eddie Teach on December 19, 2012, 08:21:06 PM
'Twas a pretty dull year. I nominate the Mayans, for their little prank.
Title: Re: Person of the Year? Who Should It Be
Post by: derspiess on December 19, 2012, 08:27:09 PM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on December 19, 2012, 08:21:06 PM
'Twas a pretty dull year. I nominate the Mayans, for their little prank.

Ooh, good one.  Can anyone explain to me why people seem to be taking it so seriously?  Even most people I hear joke about it seem a slight bit nervous.
Title: Re: Person of the Year? Who Should It Be
Post by: Razgovory on December 19, 2012, 08:31:32 PM
I'm not sure exactly how Mayan calender resets got translated in to "End of the World".
Title: Re: Person of the Year? Who Should It Be
Post by: Liep on December 19, 2012, 08:45:12 PM
Quote from: derspiess on December 19, 2012, 08:27:09 PM
Ooh, good one.  Can anyone explain to me why people seem to be taking it so seriously?  Even most people I hear joke about it seem a slight bit nervous.
I think it's the build up; the date has been mentioned for years and now it's finally here.
Title: Re: Person of the Year? Who Should It Be
Post by: alfred russel on December 19, 2012, 08:52:06 PM
Quote from: Valmy on December 19, 2012, 01:23:37 PM
Pretty lame.  Time might as well make the Presidential election winner the Person of the Year every four years.

Time is boxed into a corner. They practically can't chose someone with a great impact on the world that is considered by Americans to be a bad guy (such as when they picked Hitler), because that would be too controversial. They probably don't want to pick someone that most Americans haven't heard of, so that handicaps a lot of foreigners. They probably don't want to pick someone from a special interest or advocacy group, for fear of appearing to partisan.

You run the candidates through those filters, and you get a very short list, and the president is always on there.
Title: Re: Person of the Year? Who Should It Be
Post by: The Minsky Moment on December 19, 2012, 09:36:30 PM
Doesn't seem like anyone on Tim's list would be a more obvious choice.
Maybe the Burmese odd couple, but that is a bit exotic for an American middlebrow audience.
Same problem with Draghi, plus it's a little odd to name the world's second most important central banker as Top Guy for the year.
Title: Re: Person of the Year? Who Should It Be
Post by: Admiral Yi on December 19, 2012, 09:39:30 PM
How about Teh Syrian People?
Title: Re: Person of the Year? Who Should It Be
Post by: Razgovory on December 19, 2012, 09:45:11 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on December 19, 2012, 09:39:30 PM
How about Teh Syrian People?

They haven't won yet.
Title: Re: Person of the Year? Who Should It Be
Post by: Razgovory on December 19, 2012, 09:48:11 PM
Quote from: alfred russel on December 19, 2012, 08:52:06 PM
Quote from: Valmy on December 19, 2012, 01:23:37 PM
Pretty lame.  Time might as well make the Presidential election winner the Person of the Year every four years.

Time is boxed into a corner. They practically can't chose someone with a great impact on the world that is considered by Americans to be a bad guy (such as when they picked Hitler), because that would be too controversial. They probably don't want to pick someone that most Americans haven't heard of, so that handicaps a lot of foreigners. They probably don't want to pick someone from a special interest or advocacy group, for fear of appearing to partisan.

You run the candidates through those filters, and you get a very short list, and the president is always on there.

I believe one of their worst selling issues was the Man of the Year 1979.  People took it as an endorsement of Ayatollah Khomeini.
Title: Re: Person of the Year? Who Should It Be
Post by: Sheilbh on December 19, 2012, 10:06:42 PM
Only other individual candidate I can think of is Draghi. Which would be an esoteric choice.

And far better this than 'you' or 'the protester'.
Title: Re: Person of the Year? Who Should It Be
Post by: garbon on December 19, 2012, 10:10:30 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on December 19, 2012, 09:39:30 PM
How about Teh Syrian People?

They were on The Atlantic's list.

http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2012/12/judgment-5-better-choices-for-person-of-the-year-than-barack-obama/266472/
Title: Re: Person of the Year? Who Should It Be
Post by: DGuller on December 19, 2012, 10:12:49 PM
Quote from: Sheilbh on December 19, 2012, 10:06:42 PM
And far better this than 'you'
HEY!  :mad:
Title: Re: Person of the Year? Who Should It Be
Post by: Eddie Teach on December 19, 2012, 10:25:36 PM
Quote from: DGuller on December 19, 2012, 10:12:49 PM
Quote from: Sheilbh on December 19, 2012, 10:06:42 PM
And far better this than 'you'
HEY!  :mad:

Eh, you really didn't do a whole lot this year.
Title: Re: Person of the Year? Who Should It Be
Post by: The Minsky Moment on December 19, 2012, 10:44:48 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on December 19, 2012, 09:39:30 PM
How about Teh Syrian People?

They won in 2011.

B.C.
Title: Re: Person of the Year? Who Should It Be
Post by: alfred russel on December 19, 2012, 11:00:14 PM
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on December 19, 2012, 10:44:48 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on December 19, 2012, 09:39:30 PM
How about Teh Syrian People?

They won in 2011.

B.C.

Back then the literary readers were predominately middle eastern, aka a unibrow audience.
Title: Re: Person of the Year? Who Should It Be
Post by: CountDeMoney on December 20, 2012, 01:48:48 AM
Quote from: garbon on December 19, 2012, 10:10:30 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on December 19, 2012, 09:39:30 PM
How about Teh Syrian People?

They were on The Atlantic's list.

That'll only last until they kill our ambassador and somebody finds a black woman to blame for it.
Title: Re: Person of the Year? Who Should It Be
Post by: Admiral Yi on December 25, 2012, 06:37:09 PM
They went with Barry.
Title: Re: Person of the Year? Who Should It Be
Post by: garbon on December 25, 2012, 07:27:08 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on December 25, 2012, 06:37:09 PM
They went with Barry.

Umm...that's.why I revived the thread on the 19th. :unsure:
Title: Re: Person of the Year? Who Should It Be
Post by: DGuller on December 25, 2012, 07:49:26 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on December 25, 2012, 06:37:09 PM
They went with Barry.
I Googled it for more information, and it turns out that he beat Mitt Romney.  :huh:  Did anyone else hear about this? :o
Title: Re: Person of the Year? Who Should It Be
Post by: Razgovory on December 25, 2012, 07:51:09 PM
Quote from: DGuller on December 25, 2012, 07:49:26 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on December 25, 2012, 06:37:09 PM
They went with Barry.
I Googled it for more information, and it turns out that he beat Mitt Romney.  :huh:  Did anyone else hear about this? :o

All the polls that Phil posted suggested otherwise.  What could have possibly happened?
Title: Re: Person of the Year? Who Should It Be
Post by: Phillip V on December 25, 2012, 11:55:36 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on December 25, 2012, 07:51:09 PM
Quote from: DGuller on December 25, 2012, 07:49:26 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on December 25, 2012, 06:37:09 PM
They went with Barry.
I Googled it for more information, and it turns out that he beat Mitt Romney.  :huh:  Did anyone else hear about this? :o

All the polls that Phil posted suggested otherwise.  What could have possibly happened?

I predicted that Obama would win. :wacko: