History questions:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/blog/quiz/2012/jul/05/uk-citizenship-test?fb=native
I got 12 right so passed. :lol:
1 - the English Law in Wales question was actually hard.
2 - The Great Britain question was misleading
3 - The Walpole question was wrong. Walpole was never Prime Minister, he acted like later people who called themselves Prime Minster, but he did not hold that title and never considered himself one. It was particularly annoying since the first man to call himself Prime Minister was included as an option in the poll.
Quote from: Viking on July 05, 2012, 07:13:55 AM
2 - The Great Britain question was misleading
No it isn't.
Got 11 right. :yeah:
I failed the Great Britain one, the carpenters one (idiotic question for that kind of test btw), and the English law in Wales one.
Quote from: Martinus on July 05, 2012, 07:30:17 AM
I failed the Great Britain one, the carpenters one (idiotic question for that kind of test btw), and the English law in Wales one.
I'm sad to say the same.
Quote from: Martinus on July 05, 2012, 06:43:02 AM
History questions:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/blog/quiz/2012/jul/05/uk-citizenship-test?fb=native
I got 12 right so passed. :lol:
to which the obvious question is.. how do you justify your google search?
V
Quote from: Valdemar on July 05, 2012, 07:39:51 AM
Quote from: Martinus on July 05, 2012, 06:43:02 AM
History questions:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/blog/quiz/2012/jul/05/uk-citizenship-test?fb=native
I got 12 right so passed. :lol:
to which the obvious question is.. how do you justify your google search?
V
What's obvious about that question?
Quote from: garbon on July 05, 2012, 07:42:03 AM
Quote from: Valdemar on July 05, 2012, 07:39:51 AM
Quote from: Martinus on July 05, 2012, 06:43:02 AM
History questions:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/blog/quiz/2012/jul/05/uk-citizenship-test?fb=native
I got 12 right so passed. :lol:
to which the obvious question is.. how do you justify your google search?
V
What's obvious about that question?
The poles aren't bright enough to know it, hence he googled, hence he needs to
justify it - obviously :P
nah, I'll stop.. one poluted thread must be enough.. I briefly considered going rounds making remarks on his intelligence in all the threads.. but really I do not have THAT much free time on my hands... nor the patience, it would be the works of sisyphos..
V
Quote from: Valdemar on July 05, 2012, 07:39:51 AM
Quote from: Martinus on July 05, 2012, 06:43:02 AM
History questions:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/blog/quiz/2012/jul/05/uk-citizenship-test?fb=native
I got 12 right so passed. :lol:
to which the obvious question is.. how do you justify your google search?
V
What google search?
Quote from: Valdemar on July 05, 2012, 07:55:21 AM
Quote from: garbon on July 05, 2012, 07:42:03 AM
Quote from: Valdemar on July 05, 2012, 07:39:51 AM
Quote from: Martinus on July 05, 2012, 06:43:02 AM
History questions:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/blog/quiz/2012/jul/05/uk-citizenship-test?fb=native
I got 12 right so passed. :lol:
to which the obvious question is.. how do you justify your google search?
V
What's obvious about that question?
The poles aren't bright enough to know it, hence he googled, hence he needs to justify it - obviously :P
nah, I'll stop.. one poluted thread must be enough.. I briefly considered going rounds making remarks on his intelligence in all the threads.. but really I do not have THAT much free time on my hands... nor the patience, it would be the works of sisyphos..
V
Pro tip: if you want to make someone look stupid, it's not a good idea to attempt doing it by making incoherent posts. Or perhaps it's your multiple sclerosis acting up or something?
Quote from: Martinus on July 05, 2012, 07:57:54 AM
What google search?
Are you really
that dense? :unsure:
read my reply to Garbon
V
14 Correct!
Got the Welsh question as wrong as possible.
13 out of 15 with some calculated guesses and a wrong where I actually knew the answer.
Quote from: Valdemar on July 05, 2012, 08:01:41 AM
Quote from: Martinus on July 05, 2012, 07:57:54 AM
What google search?
Are you really that dense? :unsure:
read my reply to Garbon
V
I guess I am - I have no idea what you are talking about in both of these posts.
Quote from: Valdemar on July 05, 2012, 07:55:21 AM
The poles aren't bright enough to know it, hence he googled, hence he needs to justify it - obviously :P
nah, I'll stop.. one poluted thread must be enough.. I briefly considered going rounds making remarks on his intelligence in all the threads.. but really I do not have THAT much free time on my hands... nor the patience, it would be the works of sisyphos..
V
Leave insults to the professionals.
7.
:(
I made stupid errors. Also, what the hell North Ireland isn't part of Great Britain? That's fucking misleading for a country that has a billion different name.
Next they are going to tell me Zeland isn't part of Holland.
Quote from: garbon on July 05, 2012, 08:14:51 AM
Leave insults to the professionals.
I thought it was if not obvious, then at least logical, that he could/would have used google to get the answers...
But I bow to the master..
teach me sensei V
Quote from: Valdemar on July 05, 2012, 08:20:17 AM
Quote from: garbon on July 05, 2012, 08:14:51 AM
Leave insults to the professionals.
I thought it was if not obvious, then at least logical, that he could/would have used google to get the answers...
But I bow to the master..
teach me sensei
V
We're mainly a board of history geeks - so doesn't really seem applicable even with your target.
I really need to brush up on my Prime Ministers. :blush:
11/15, not bad since I'm a self-confessed ignoramus.
Quote from: Brazen on July 05, 2012, 08:32:16 AM
11/15, not bad since I'm a self-confessed ignoramus.
That's bad, girl...I got a 10, and I don't even fucking live there.
I got 13, but I missed the ones about bad teeth and soccer hooligans.
Quote from: Grey Fox on July 05, 2012, 08:18:25 AM
Next they are going to tell me Zeland isn't part of Holland.
:lol:
13 out of 15 here. The Northern Ireland thing got me as well.
Personally, I think the test was culturally biased against Languishites, as it didn't have any cool stuff about the English, like Wellington, WW2 or the history of 18th century Royal Navy bureaucracy.
I got 11/15.
I got the Walpole question right. Thanks Simon Schama! :showoff:
It helps to remember that United Kingdom is short for "The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland".
I got 12--there were a few that seemed questionable to be in the test. I got the one about the black plague correct, but given the range of estimates and the inaccuracy involved in the demography of the era, 25% and 33% seem to be within the margin of error of each other.
I missed the GB one, the first prime minister one (was this also iffy--that isn't a formal office, right?), and the carpenter question (which I'm not sure about, either).
In the US for this sort of test, we give the test takers the pool of questions and the answers. I think there are only about 100 in the pool, so you have to be really special to speak english and not pass. Obviously you can just memorize answers without any understanding of government and history. Do they do the same thing in the UK, or is this a real test?
Quote from: alfred russel on July 05, 2012, 08:51:04 AM
and the carpenter question (which I'm not sure about, either).
I just remember watching all those shitty reenactments from the History Channel with the mud huts and thatched roofs, so that's why I got it correct.
13/15. I dinged the welsh law question and the carpenter question.
I got the carpenter question because people keep calling it the carpenter question.
I also got 11 besides that one.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on July 05, 2012, 08:27:04 AM
I really need to brush up on my Prime Ministers. :blush:
Is brushing up on your Prime Ministers an euphemism?
Quote from: CountDeMoney on July 05, 2012, 08:52:55 AM
Quote from: alfred russel on July 05, 2012, 08:51:04 AM
and the carpenter question (which I'm not sure about, either).
I just remember watching all those shitty reenactments from the History Channel with the mud huts and thatched roofs, so that's why I got it correct.
Game of Thrones is not reenactment. :rolleyes:
Quote from: Martinus on July 05, 2012, 08:58:05 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on July 05, 2012, 08:27:04 AM
I really need to brush up on my Prime Ministers. :blush:
Is brushing up on your Prime Ministers an euphemism?
Get your mind out of the gutter. I'm not talking about lovingly stroking Lord Salisbury's puckernut with a camelhair brush, you fag.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on July 05, 2012, 09:00:17 AM
Quote from: Martinus on July 05, 2012, 08:58:05 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on July 05, 2012, 08:27:04 AM
I really need to brush up on my Prime Ministers. :blush:
Is brushing up on your Prime Ministers an euphemism?
Get your mind out of the gutter. I'm not talking about lovingly stroking Lord Salisbury's puckernut with a camelhair brush, you fag.
Seriously Marti needs to start behaving better.
Quote from: garbon on July 05, 2012, 09:18:16 AM
Seriously Marti needs to start behaving better.
I'm being inspired by my avatar. :blush:
Quote from: Martinus on July 05, 2012, 09:34:44 AM
Quote from: garbon on July 05, 2012, 09:18:16 AM
Seriously Marti needs to start behaving better.
I'm being inspired by my avatar. :blush:
Even your avatar wouldn't act like a deranged chimp in heat out in public.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on July 05, 2012, 09:37:49 AM
Quote from: Martinus on July 05, 2012, 09:34:44 AM
Quote from: garbon on July 05, 2012, 09:18:16 AM
Seriously Marti needs to start behaving better.
I'm being inspired by my avatar. :blush:
Even your avatar wouldn't act like a deranged chimp in heat out in public.
I'm not in public.
Quote from: Martinus on July 05, 2012, 09:38:55 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on July 05, 2012, 09:37:49 AM
Quote from: Martinus on July 05, 2012, 09:34:44 AM
Quote from: garbon on July 05, 2012, 09:18:16 AM
Seriously Marti needs to start behaving better.
I'm being inspired by my avatar. :blush:
Even your avatar wouldn't act like a deranged chimp in heat out in public.
I'm not in public.
In any case, stop being a deranged chimp in heat. Assclown.
13/15
Didn't both Yeomen and serfs work the land?
Quote from: chipwich on July 05, 2012, 09:57:36 AM
Didn't both Yeomen and serfs work the land?
Yes but one would argue that's a Renaissance interpretation of the title.
I got more than half of those right. :smarty:
Quote from: Brazen on July 05, 2012, 08:43:59 AM
It helps to remember that United Kingdom is short for "The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland".
:contract: Which is why the question isn't misleading in the least.
So you guys qualify as Brits but half the people in Britain probably don't :hmm:
Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on July 05, 2012, 12:32:15 PM
So you guys qualify as Brits but half the people in Britain probably don't :hmm:
Your history is our history too (at least for the Americans).
One of my favorite stories in this regard is that after the american revolution, John Adams and Thomas Jefferson toured the battlefield of Worcester.
Quote from: wikipediaJohn Adams wrote that he was "deeply moved" but disappointed at the locals' lack of knowledge of the battle, and gave the townspeople an "impromptu lecture":
" The people in the neighborhood appeared so ignorant and careless at Worcester that I was provoked and asked 'And do Englishmen so soon forget the ground where liberty was fought for? Tell your neighbors and your children that this is holy ground, much holier than that on which your churches stand. All England should come in pilgrimage to this hill, once a year. "
11 of 15.
Quote from: alfred russel on July 05, 2012, 12:39:20 PM
Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on July 05, 2012, 12:32:15 PM
So you guys qualify as Brits but half the people in Britain probably don't :hmm:
Your history is our history too (at least for the Americans).
One of my favorite stories in this regard is that after the american revolution, John Adams and Thomas Jefferson toured the battlefield of Worcester.
Quote from: wikipediaJohn Adams wrote that he was "deeply moved" but disappointed at the locals' lack of knowledge of the battle, and gave the townspeople an "impromptu lecture":
" The people in the neighborhood appeared so ignorant and careless at Worcester that I was provoked and asked 'And do Englishmen so soon forget the ground where liberty was fought for? Tell your neighbors and your children that this is holy ground, much holier than that on which your churches stand. All England should come in pilgrimage to this hill, once a year. "
Someone should have pointed out to Mr. Adams that, in spite of losing the battle and having to go into exile, Charles II eventually came back and reigned as king ... so the local indifference to the significance of this battle makes a certain degree of sense. :D
Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on July 05, 2012, 12:32:15 PM
So you guys qualify as Brits but half the people in Britain probably don't :hmm:
I am sure if most Americans were given the American citizenship test cold they would not pass it either.
Quote from: alfred russel on July 05, 2012, 08:51:04 AM
I got 12--there were a few that seemed questionable to be in the test. I got the one about the black plague correct, but given the range of estimates and the inaccuracy involved in the demography of the era, 25% and 33% seem to be within the margin of error of each other.
I missed the GB one, the first prime minister one (was this also iffy--that isn't a formal office, right?), and the carpenter question (which I'm not sure about, either).
In the US for this sort of test, we give the test takers the pool of questions and the answers. I think there are only about 100 in the pool, so you have to be really special to speak english and not pass. Obviously you can just memorize answers without any understanding of government and history. Do they do the same thing in the UK, or is this a real test?
Yeah, crappy test. I did get 12 though. I missed 1, 8, and 10 (cause I always mix up James and Charles). I would have missed 11 had it not been for Viking. Several others are iffy.
14 of 15 (though guessed on the law in Wales one). The one I got wrong was the one that laughably asserts that engineers are "skilled workers."
I hope these aren't really British citizenship questions, because they are really bad questions and, often, worse answer choices.
It is a silly test, more like a British history pop quiz than anything else. Any money spent on it is wasted money IMO.
A better test would be to get applicants to drink several pints of bitter whilst watching a footie match that England lost on penalties, that would prevent at least some of the riff-raff from becoming Britons.
Quote from: grumbler on July 05, 2012, 01:36:48 PM
laughably asserts that engineers are "skilled workers."
I YAM ESSENTIAL VERKER
LULZ A ONE ARMED ENGINEER TWICE AS USELESS
9/15. :lol:
Quote from: Habbaku on July 05, 2012, 12:24:27 PM
Quote from: Brazen on July 05, 2012, 08:43:59 AM
It helps to remember that United Kingdom is short for "The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland".
:contract: Which is why the question isn't misleading in the least.
Just to make this clear to Grey Fox, Great Britian is an island. England, Wales, and Scotland are located on that island (and a few much snaller nearby islands). Northern Ireland, however, is located on a different, fairly good-sized island.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on July 05, 2012, 02:02:27 PM
9/15. :lol:
Same
I wouldn't want to live in your stupid country anyways!
:cry:
The test called me Adolf Hitler.
13 out of 15, I don't know which I got wrong as my browser didn't display the answers.
edit:
Didn't get the Welsh question, I know it was late, just not that late.
Oh and got the working the land one wrong, though I think it's somewhat vague as yeoman, as in farmers might be another option.
Yeoman wasn't the right answer, was it? I thought a yeoman was a free smallholder.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on July 05, 2012, 05:28:56 PM
Yeoman wasn't the right answer, was it? I thought a yeoman was a free smallholder.
It wasn't a good question.
Quote from: Martinus on July 05, 2012, 06:43:02 AM
History questions:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/blog/quiz/2012/jul/05/uk-citizenship-test?fb=native
I got 12 right so passed. :lol:
Probably not, so not even taking it. All I know is we beat the snot out of them in the Revolutionary and War "O" 1812, bailed them out of WW1 and WW2, have bad teeth and eat meat pies. They had cool Kaniggets, though.
Quote from: 11B4V on July 05, 2012, 06:26:56 PM
Quote from: Martinus on July 05, 2012, 06:43:02 AM
History questions:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/blog/quiz/2012/jul/05/uk-citizenship-test?fb=native
I got 12 right so passed. :lol:
Probably not, so not even taking it. All I know is we beat the snot out of them in the Revolutionary and War "O" 1812, bailed them out of WW1 and WW2, have bad teeth and eat meat pies. They had cool Kaniggets, though.
We have a rather large moat, we didn't need you help, we just 'persuaded' you twice to help the empire 'save' Europe. :bowler:
edit:
oh and the Atlee government conned you into staying on in Europe. :P
It was a mistake for the UK to get involved in 1914, should have let the Europeans stew in their own juices.
Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on July 05, 2012, 06:42:29 PM
It was a mistake for the UK to get involved in 1914, should have let the Europeans stew in their own juices.
:yes:
Quote from: Admiral Yi on July 05, 2012, 05:28:56 PM
Yeoman wasn't the right answer, was it? I thought a yeoman was a free smallholder.
Correct. A yeoman technically wasn't under the feudal system (nor were artisans, churchmen, and merchants, amongst others).
Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on July 05, 2012, 06:42:29 PM
It was a mistake for the UK to get involved in 1914, should have let the Europeans stew in their own juices.
"Dense fog in the Channel; Europe is cut off."
Half arsed dash through gave me 11.
Wrong I got-
1 is a bit of a trick question. It doesn't say the island of Great Britain, and GB is a standard short name for the UK.
I was actually expecting a different trick there though, I thought they'd pull the whole Wales isn't actually a reall country deely.
4 I did not know. I assumed it was a gradual thing beginning with the complete take over of Wales
7. Meh. Hair splitting.
8. Canal builders came from Europe in the middle ages? Didn:t know that...huh....
and I have to object to 3. Wasn't it not until Alfred's descendants that the vikings were beat?
11 I guessed right but wasn't the first PM not actually until the early 20th century?
It really doesn't matter Tyr, the test they want to give would only have one question, namely........."Are you a wog?".
This bs test is window-dressing for that truth.
Now maybe we do or do not want lots of people from different backgrounds coming to our country. But it seems criminally obtuse to babble on about multiculturalism year after year and then start bitching that our immigrants are not British enough.
Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on July 05, 2012, 12:32:15 PM
So you guys qualify as Brits but half the people in Britain probably don't :hmm:
I think that's overestimating the Brits.
I got 13.
QuoteA better test would be to get applicants to drink several pints of bitter whilst watching a footie match that England lost on penalties, that would prevent at least some of the riff-raff from becoming Britons.
The old test got pilloried by the likes of the Daily Mail for questioning people about how to claim benefits. But actually the questions were about how to get by in Britain. So it included things about meter readings, paying the gas bill, applying for jobs, signing up for a doctor and, yes, benefits. I think it's probably closer to your idea than this weird Govey stuff about national anthems and Magna Carta :mellow:
Not that this is necessarily bad, I'm just not sure it should really matter.
QuoteIt was a mistake for the UK to get involved in 1914, should have let the Europeans stew in their own juices.
No. Plucky little Belgium needed saving and the Entente Cordiale :wub: :bowler: :frog:
I got 13.
What was with the carpenter question, though, as it seemed ridiculously obscure. Is that some important part of the national identity unknown to foreigners or something?
Only 9 correct. Fuck if I know the British PM stuff.