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Title: Romney impersonated police officer
Post by: Martinus on June 11, 2012, 12:49:52 AM
QuoteClassmates: Mitt Romney Impersonated Police Officer In High School And College

GOP presidential candidate Mitt Romney has long contended that he's a good-humored practical jokester who is only misunderstood as stiff and over-programmed.

As a high school student, Romney's mischievous disposition was frequently on display. Classmates told the Washington Post in a piece published last month that this sometimes led him into unpleasant territory, such as the time he and a group of friends pinned down a screaming boy -- who was presumed to be gay -- and gave him a "hack job" haircut with a pair of scissors.

In another questionable display of his inner prankster, it now appears that Romney was also reportedly fascinated with police uniforms, which he sometimes put on to carry out elaborate practical jokes.

According to a report from National Memo, Romney was open about this practice, telling fellow students at Stanford University, where he studied for two years, that he "sometimes disguised himself as a police officer."

According to classmate Robin Madden, Romney once brought a group of classmates up to his dorm room where he showed them his Michigan State Trooper's uniform.

From the National Memo report:

Said Madden in a recent interview, "He told us that he had gotten the uniform from his father," George Romney, then the Governor of Michigan, whose security detail was staffed by uniformed troopers. "He told us that he was using it to pull over drivers on the road. He also had a red flashing light that he would attach to the top of his white Rambler."

In Madden's recollection, confirmed by his wife Susan, who also attended Stanford during those years, "we thought it was all pretty weird. We all thought, 'Wow, that's pretty creepy.' And after that, we didn't have much interaction with him," although both Madden and Romney were prep school boys living in the same dorm, called Rinconada.


Madden's account of a young Romney who excitedly spoke of his habit of impersonating a police officer, which is illegal in many states, has been corroborated in the past by other acquaintances from the GOP presidential candidate's youth.

A magistrate at Cranbrook, Romney's boarding school, recounted a famous prank in which Romney dressed up in full uniform and a badge, and placed a police light on top of his vehicle in order to pull over a car full of friends on a double date.

The story has also been told in the book The Real Romney as well as by fellow students of the future Massachusetts governor.

Graham McDonald, a friend of Romney's at the time who'd helped him plan the joke, explained the high jinks in an interview with the Philadelphia Inquirer:

As planned, Romney pulled their car over, demanded the vehicle registration, and asked for the keys to the trunk - where he "found" the bottle of bourbon McDonald had taken from his dad and planted as part of the ruse.
"He told me and my friend to get out with him, and that he was taking us in," McDonald remembered. The idea was to spook the girls.

One of the young women involved told the Washington Post that she was "terrified" at the time, but that they'd all shared in the laugh after they realized what was really happening.

While the treatment of such behavior has no doubt become more severe in the period between Romney's antics and the present, National Memo points out that impersonating a police officer is a crime -- and a fairly serious one at that -- in the states of California, where Stanford is located, and Michigan, where Cranbrook is located. While some may be concerned about the legal implications of the decades-old acts, the episodes appear more indicative of a Romney who, from a young age, displayed a comfort with power and privilege that his peers have suggested he used to act out in his quest for social acceptance.

LOL this guy is getting weirder and weirder. And not in a good crazy way but in a creepy way.
Title: Re: Romney impersonated police officer
Post by: Habbaku on June 11, 2012, 12:52:21 AM
 :lol:
Title: Re: Romney impersonated police officer
Post by: Eddie Teach on June 11, 2012, 12:54:05 AM
Mitt Romney has a sense of entitlement he doesn't want to share with the public. :(
Title: Re: Romney impersonated police officer
Post by: Barrister on June 11, 2012, 12:58:56 AM
FFS when deciding who should be president who the fuck cares about shit that happened 40 years ago?
Title: Re: Romney impersonated police officer
Post by: Martinus on June 11, 2012, 01:02:03 AM
Quote from: Barrister on June 11, 2012, 12:58:56 AM
FFS when deciding who should be president who the fuck cares about shit that happened 40 years ago?

Well, it doesn't per se but the stories that keep surfacing about him, like this one, or the bullying or the stuff about him transporting his dog in an open cage on the roof of his car, give an insight into his character that is quite consistent - and not at all pretty. And sociopaths do not "get better".

Anyway, considering your usual stance, Mr. Square, I'm surprised you would take to a crime so lightly.
Title: Re: Romney impersonated police officer
Post by: DGuller on June 11, 2012, 01:22:47 AM
What's the statute of limitations on impersonating of police officer?  :hmm: 
Title: Re: Romney impersonated police officer
Post by: Berkut on June 11, 2012, 01:26:54 AM
Sociopath?
Title: Re: Romney impersonated police officer
Post by: Habbaku on June 11, 2012, 01:31:05 AM
Quote from: Berkut on June 11, 2012, 01:26:54 AM
Sociopath?

You know. Like Martinus.
Title: Re: Romney impersonated police officer
Post by: Eddie Teach on June 11, 2012, 01:34:18 AM
Quote from: Berkut on June 11, 2012, 01:26:54 AM
Sociopath?

The dog thing and the dye job thing can both be read that way. This one, not so much.
Title: Re: Romney impersonated police officer
Post by: Martinus on June 11, 2012, 01:35:47 AM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on June 11, 2012, 01:34:18 AM
Quote from: Berkut on June 11, 2012, 01:26:54 AM
Sociopath?

The dog thing and the dye job thing can both be read that way. This one, not so much.

This one involves (i) doing something wrong (which is also a crime), (ii) abusing privilege and (iii) causing distress to random people for kicks. I'd say this can be read as sociopathic too.
Title: Re: Romney impersonated police officer
Post by: 11B4V on June 11, 2012, 01:39:10 AM
Perhaps he's impersonating a Republican.  :yeahright:
Title: Re: Romney impersonated police officer
Post by: Eddie Teach on June 11, 2012, 01:41:21 AM
I'm sure there's plenty of actual police officers who also enjoy handing out tickets.
Title: Re: Romney impersonated police officer
Post by: Tamas on June 11, 2012, 01:47:29 AM
 :huh: Srsly guys? The dude impersonated an officer of the law, and you go all "well, hey, it ain't a big deal. he was young"

WTF
Title: Re: Romney impersonated police officer
Post by: Berkut on June 11, 2012, 01:49:24 AM
Quote from: Tamas on June 11, 2012, 01:47:29 AM
:huh: Srsly guys? The dude impersonated an officer of the law, and you go all "well, hey, it ain't a big deal. he was young"

WTF

Yeah, exactly.

Obama smoked dope and did some blow. Who cares.
Title: Re: Romney impersonated police officer
Post by: katmai on June 11, 2012, 01:49:34 AM
Who besides Beeb is saying that?
Who knows where Habbu is on subject as he actually hasn't commented on the report just Marti's comments.
Title: Re: Romney impersonated police officer
Post by: Habbaku on June 11, 2012, 01:54:03 AM
I think there are far better ways to criticize Romney than to cite his idiotic pranksterism from 40 years ago.
Title: Re: Romney impersonated police officer
Post by: Tamas on June 11, 2012, 01:54:18 AM
Quote from: Berkut on June 11, 2012, 01:49:24 AM
Quote from: Tamas on June 11, 2012, 01:47:29 AM
:huh: Srsly guys? The dude impersonated an officer of the law, and you go all "well, hey, it ain't a big deal. he was young"

WTF

Yeah, exactly.

Obama smoked dope and did some blow. Who cares.

The two are entirely different matters, and you know it.
Title: Re: Romney impersonated police officer
Post by: Tamas on June 11, 2012, 01:55:33 AM
Quote from: Habbaku on June 11, 2012, 01:54:03 AM
I think there are far better ways to criticize Romney than to cite his idiotic pranksterism from 40 years ago.

Pretending you are a police officer is not a prank, it's a crime. And not a crime like smoking pot which doesn't affect anybody else, but a crime crime.
Title: Re: Romney impersonated police officer
Post by: Berkut on June 11, 2012, 02:02:44 AM
Quote from: Tamas on June 11, 2012, 01:55:33 AM
Quote from: Habbaku on June 11, 2012, 01:54:03 AM
I think there are far better ways to criticize Romney than to cite his idiotic pranksterism from 40 years ago.

Pretending you are a police officer is not a prank, it's a crime. And not a crime like smoking pot which doesn't affect anybody else, but a crime crime.

Doing coke is a crime. And not a crime like pretending like you are a cop as a prank, but a crime crime that people go to prison for a long time for.
Title: Re: Romney impersonated police officer
Post by: 11B4V on June 11, 2012, 02:07:01 AM
No such thing as a crime crime.  :lol:
Title: Re: Romney impersonated police officer
Post by: Tamas on June 11, 2012, 02:07:50 AM
This is going to be the downfall of your country.

Politics have become a no-compromise tribal contest between the two halves of the citizens. Right? Wrong? Acceptable? Not? All are a matter of tribal affiliation.
Title: Re: Romney impersonated police officer
Post by: Martinus on June 11, 2012, 02:09:03 AM
Quote from: Berkut on June 11, 2012, 02:02:44 AM
Quote from: Tamas on June 11, 2012, 01:55:33 AM
Quote from: Habbaku on June 11, 2012, 01:54:03 AM
I think there are far better ways to criticize Romney than to cite his idiotic pranksterism from 40 years ago.

Pretending you are a police officer is not a prank, it's a crime. And not a crime like smoking pot which doesn't affect anybody else, but a crime crime.

Doing coke is a crime. And not a crime like pretending like you are a cop as a prank, but a crime crime that people go to prison for a long time for.

To me, using drugs is certainly less of a crime than impersonating a police officer. At least in a normal world without the stupid war on drugs. The former is victimless crime, the latter is usurpation of the authority of the state.
Title: Re: Romney impersonated police officer
Post by: Tamas on June 11, 2012, 02:09:50 AM
Quote from: Martinus on June 11, 2012, 02:09:03 AM
Quote from: Berkut on June 11, 2012, 02:02:44 AM
Quote from: Tamas on June 11, 2012, 01:55:33 AM
Quote from: Habbaku on June 11, 2012, 01:54:03 AM
I think there are far better ways to criticize Romney than to cite his idiotic pranksterism from 40 years ago.

Pretending you are a police officer is not a prank, it's a crime. And not a crime like smoking pot which doesn't affect anybody else, but a crime crime.

Doing coke is a crime. And not a crime like pretending like you are a cop as a prank, but a crime crime that people go to prison for a long time for.

To me, using drugs is certainly less of a crime than impersonating a police officer. At least in a normal world without the stupid war on drugs. The former is victimless crime, the latter is usurpation of the authority of the state.

but it was done by the current REPUBLICAN CANDIDATE. so STFU it was nothing.
Title: Re: Romney impersonated police officer
Post by: Martinus on June 11, 2012, 02:12:40 AM
Quote from: Berkut on June 11, 2012, 02:02:44 AM
Quote from: Tamas on June 11, 2012, 01:55:33 AM
Quote from: Habbaku on June 11, 2012, 01:54:03 AM
I think there are far better ways to criticize Romney than to cite his idiotic pranksterism from 40 years ago.

Pretending you are a police officer is not a prank, it's a crime. And not a crime like smoking pot which doesn't affect anybody else, but a crime crime.

Doing coke is a crime. And not a crime like pretending like you are a cop as a prank, but a crime crime that people go to prison for a long time for.

But that's because your legal system is fucked up when it comes to drug-related crimes. Sure, you could adopt laws where jaywalking would be punishable by death and murder would involve community service, but that does not make jaywalking, objectively, a more serious crime than murder.
Title: Re: Romney impersonated police officer
Post by: Berkut on June 11, 2012, 02:13:54 AM
Quote from: Martinus on June 11, 2012, 02:09:03 AM
Quote from: Berkut on June 11, 2012, 02:02:44 AM
Quote from: Tamas on June 11, 2012, 01:55:33 AM
Quote from: Habbaku on June 11, 2012, 01:54:03 AM
I think there are far better ways to criticize Romney than to cite his idiotic pranksterism from 40 years ago.

Pretending you are a police officer is not a prank, it's a crime. And not a crime like smoking pot which doesn't affect anybody else, but a crime crime.

Doing coke is a crime. And not a crime like pretending like you are a cop as a prank, but a crime crime that people go to prison for a long time for.

To me, using drugs is certainly less of a crime than impersonating a police officer. At least in a normal world without the stupid war on drugs. The former is victimless crime, the latter is usurpation of the authority of the state.

I don't think either is a big deal, under the context the "crimes" were committed in.

Impersonating a cop in order to actually usurp the authority of the state is a big deal. If he did it so he could engage in some other criminal activity, that would be a big deal.

But he did it is a prank. Stupid, but hardly anything to get all worked up about.

Just like smoking some pot, or even doing a "little blow".
Title: Re: Romney impersonated police officer
Post by: Berkut on June 11, 2012, 02:14:59 AM
Quote from: Tamas on June 11, 2012, 02:09:50 AM
Quote from: Martinus on June 11, 2012, 02:09:03 AM
Quote from: Berkut on June 11, 2012, 02:02:44 AM
Quote from: Tamas on June 11, 2012, 01:55:33 AM
Quote from: Habbaku on June 11, 2012, 01:54:03 AM
I think there are far better ways to criticize Romney than to cite his idiotic pranksterism from 40 years ago.

Pretending you are a police officer is not a prank, it's a crime. And not a crime like smoking pot which doesn't affect anybody else, but a crime crime.

Doing coke is a crime. And not a crime like pretending like you are a cop as a prank, but a crime crime that people go to prison for a long time for.

To me, using drugs is certainly less of a crime than impersonating a police officer. At least in a normal world without the stupid war on drugs. The former is victimless crime, the latter is usurpation of the authority of the state.

but it was done by the current REPUBLICAN CANDIDATE. so STFU it was nothing.

Funny, I am pretty sure the only reason this is something is it was done by the REPUBLICAN CANDIDATE.

When the DEMOCRAT CANDIDATE was found to have been engaging in the use of felony narcotics, that was STFU is was nothing.
Title: Re: Romney impersonated police officer
Post by: 11B4V on June 11, 2012, 02:15:46 AM
The dog on the roof was the kicker for me. Dudes a nutjob.
Title: Re: Romney impersonated police officer
Post by: Berkut on June 11, 2012, 02:15:58 AM
Quote from: Tamas on June 11, 2012, 02:07:50 AM
This is going to be the downfall of your country.

Politics have become a no-compromise tribal contest between the two halves of the citizens. Right? Wrong? Acceptable? Not? All are a matter of tribal affiliation.

So me saying neither of them is anything to get worked up about is a "matter of tribal affiliation" while YOU insisting that only the member of the one tribe is somehow to be held accountable for their actions is...what?
Title: Re: Romney impersonated police officer
Post by: Tamas on June 11, 2012, 02:16:16 AM
Quote from: Berkut on June 11, 2012, 02:13:54 AM
Quote from: Martinus on June 11, 2012, 02:09:03 AM
Quote from: Berkut on June 11, 2012, 02:02:44 AM
Quote from: Tamas on June 11, 2012, 01:55:33 AM
Quote from: Habbaku on June 11, 2012, 01:54:03 AM
I think there are far better ways to criticize Romney than to cite his idiotic pranksterism from 40 years ago.

Pretending you are a police officer is not a prank, it's a crime. And not a crime like smoking pot which doesn't affect anybody else, but a crime crime.

Doing coke is a crime. And not a crime like pretending like you are a cop as a prank, but a crime crime that people go to prison for a long time for.

To me, using drugs is certainly less of a crime than impersonating a police officer. At least in a normal world without the stupid war on drugs. The former is victimless crime, the latter is usurpation of the authority of the state.

I don't think either is a big deal, under the context the "crimes" were committed in.

Impersonating a cop in order to actually usurp the authority of the state is a big deal. If he did it so he could engage in some other criminal activity, that would be a big deal.

But he did it is a prank. Stupid, but hardly anything to get all worked up about.

Just like smoking some pot, or even doing a "little blow".

Quote"He told us that he was using it to pull over drivers on the road.

Prank?
Title: Re: Romney impersonated police officer
Post by: Ideologue on June 11, 2012, 02:17:02 AM
Quote from: Berkut on June 11, 2012, 02:02:44 AM
Quote from: Tamas on June 11, 2012, 01:55:33 AM
Quote from: Habbaku on June 11, 2012, 01:54:03 AM
I think there are far better ways to criticize Romney than to cite his idiotic pranksterism from 40 years ago.

Pretending you are a police officer is not a prank, it's a crime. And not a crime like smoking pot which doesn't affect anybody else, but a crime crime.

Doing coke is a crime. And not a crime like pretending like you are a cop as a prank, but a crime crime that people go to prison for a long time for.

You may want to reanalyze your position.

For one thing, yeah, impersonating a police officer is very much a "crime crime," dude, and, yes, you can go to prison for a year in this state if you do it.  (And TBH, I'm shocked and appalled it's only a misdemeanor, given the tremendous danger someone impersonating a police officer can pose.  I'd be willing to bet it's a felony in at least some states.)
Title: Re: Romney impersonated police officer
Post by: Tamas on June 11, 2012, 02:17:14 AM
Quote from: Berkut on June 11, 2012, 02:15:58 AM
Quote from: Tamas on June 11, 2012, 02:07:50 AM
This is going to be the downfall of your country.

Politics have become a no-compromise tribal contest between the two halves of the citizens. Right? Wrong? Acceptable? Not? All are a matter of tribal affiliation.

So me saying neither of them is anything to get worked up about is a "matter of tribal affiliation" while YOU insisting that only the member of the one tribe is somehow to be held accountable for their actions is...what?

I am along the line Marty said. Doing drugs is by default victimless. Dressing up as a police officer and stopping cars is not.
Title: Re: Romney impersonated police officer
Post by: Berkut on June 11, 2012, 02:17:14 AM
Quote from: 11B4V on June 11, 2012, 02:15:46 AM
The dog on the roof was the kicker for me. Dudes a nutjob.

Yeah, that is a lot more "WTF?" than pranks as a kid.

Hell, I did some pretty stupid shit in high school, but I don't think I would strap my dog to the roof of my car - that is just plain mean.
Title: Re: Romney impersonated police officer
Post by: Berkut on June 11, 2012, 02:18:56 AM
Quote from: Tamas on June 11, 2012, 02:17:14 AM
Quote from: Berkut on June 11, 2012, 02:15:58 AM
Quote from: Tamas on June 11, 2012, 02:07:50 AM
This is going to be the downfall of your country.

Politics have become a no-compromise tribal contest between the two halves of the citizens. Right? Wrong? Acceptable? Not? All are a matter of tribal affiliation.

So me saying neither of them is anything to get worked up about is a "matter of tribal affiliation" while YOU insisting that only the member of the one tribe is somehow to be held accountable for their actions is...what?

I am along the line Marty said. Doing drugs is by default victimless. Dressing up as a police officer and stopping cars is not.

Right, so as long as your favorite politician engages in "victimless" crime, he is all good.

If some politician you don't like engages in a prank, then that is not "victimless" (since by definition a joke always has a victim) and therefore he should hang until dead.

Gotcha.

Democrats who break the law are cool, Republicans who break the law should probably be shot.
Title: Re: Romney impersonated police officer
Post by: Eddie Teach on June 11, 2012, 02:19:48 AM
IMO, impersonating a police officer is a more serious crime than doing drugs, whether it's Obama, Dubya or Bubba doing them. YMMV.
Title: Re: Romney impersonated police officer
Post by: katmai on June 11, 2012, 02:20:48 AM
Quote from: Berkut on June 11, 2012, 02:17:14 AM

Hell, I did some pretty stupid shit in high school,

And i wouldn't vote your ass for president either.
Title: Re: Romney impersonated police officer
Post by: Ideologue on June 11, 2012, 02:21:00 AM
Quote from: Tamas on June 11, 2012, 02:07:50 AM
This is going to be the downfall of your country.

Politics have become a no-compromise tribal contest between the two halves of the citizens. Right? Wrong? Acceptable? Not? All are a matter of tribal affiliation.

Hard to say.  If someone told me Obama was impersonating police officers and nearly killing dogs, and those reports were substantiated, I'd think that'd be pretty fucked up, too, and I doubt I could vote for him, despite the need for party discipline in these dark times.
Title: Re: Romney impersonated police officer
Post by: Tamas on June 11, 2012, 02:22:15 AM
WTF Berkut I don't like Obama at all.
He looks to be a decent prez in terms of not doing any major fuckups, but he sure as hell didn't even try to become that "change" person he pretended to be.
Title: Re: Romney impersonated police officer
Post by: Berkut on June 11, 2012, 02:22:24 AM
Quote from: Ideologue on June 11, 2012, 02:17:02 AM
Quote from: Berkut on June 11, 2012, 02:02:44 AM
Quote from: Tamas on June 11, 2012, 01:55:33 AM
Quote from: Habbaku on June 11, 2012, 01:54:03 AM
I think there are far better ways to criticize Romney than to cite his idiotic pranksterism from 40 years ago.

Pretending you are a police officer is not a prank, it's a crime. And not a crime like smoking pot which doesn't affect anybody else, but a crime crime.

Doing coke is a crime. And not a crime like pretending like you are a cop as a prank, but a crime crime that people go to prison for a long time for.

You may want to reanalyze your position.

No, I think I am all good, thanks.

Quote

For one thing, yeah, impersonating a police officer is very much a "crime crime," dude,

If he had been caught, he would not have gone to jail. Because he was playing a prank. Context.

And if Obama had been caught, he WOULD have gone to jail. Because doing coke is generally kind of frowned upon, "victimless" or not.

Quote
and, yes, you can go to prison for a year in this state if you do it.  (And TBH, I'm shocked and appalled it's only a misdemeanor, given the tremendous danger someone impersonating a police officer can pose.  I'd be willing to bet it's a felony in at least some states.)

I don't doubt that it is, and if you impersonated a police officer for the purpose of getting away with something beyond fucking with your buddy, I am sure bad things could happen to you.

You guys are hilarious. The difference between Obama and Romney is what party they are in, nothing more. Both did dumb shit when they were young that means exactly fuckall in regards to whether they should be president.
Title: Re: Romney impersonated police officer
Post by: Ideologue on June 11, 2012, 02:40:28 AM
Quote from: Berkut on June 11, 2012, 02:22:24 AM
Quote from: Ideologue on June 11, 2012, 02:17:02 AM
Quote from: Berkut on June 11, 2012, 02:02:44 AM
Quote from: Tamas on June 11, 2012, 01:55:33 AM
Quote from: Habbaku on June 11, 2012, 01:54:03 AM
I think there are far better ways to criticize Romney than to cite his idiotic pranksterism from 40 years ago.

Pretending you are a police officer is not a prank, it's a crime. And not a crime like smoking pot which doesn't affect anybody else, but a crime crime.

Doing coke is a crime. And not a crime like pretending like you are a cop as a prank, but a crime crime that people go to prison for a long time for.

You may want to reanalyze your position.

No, I think I am all good, thanks.

Quote

For one thing, yeah, impersonating a police officer is very much a "crime crime," dude,

If he had been caught, he would not have gone to jail. Because he was playing a prank. Context.

Nah, he would not have gone to jail because he was playing a prank and his father was the governor.  I'm pretty sure if I'd dressed like a cop when I was a kid in order to pull over some of my pals, and I'd been intercepted by a real cop, I'd have gone to jail.  (Especially if I was also a minor in possession of alcohol, like in the story.)

QuoteAnd if Obama had been caught, he WOULD have gone to jail. Because doing coke is generally kind of frowned upon, "victimless" or not.

No doubt about it.  That said, the jailability of an offense is not a very good metric to determine how immoral it is.  The reasons behind turning coke possession into a felony do not necessarily have anything to do with the harm of the offense, but instead serve a deterrent purpose; the higher sentence for snorting coke is equally plausibly (and in fact is) the result not of the act being morally worse than impersonating a police officer but rather a result of snorting coke being something normal people would more often do if they were not dissuaded by its illegality.

So your logic of "misdemeanor vs. felony" suffers from two problems: 1)a reliance on the patchwork legislation of a criminal code as a stand-in for morality and ignoring its use by legislatures as a policy tool; 2)an assumption that the same people with the same beliefs wrote those two separate criminal laws for the same constituents and for the same reasons, which, as you know, they did not.

QuoteI don't doubt that it is, and if you impersonated a police officer for the purpose of getting away with something beyond fucking with your buddy, I am sure bad things could happen to you.

Fwiw, the guy in the article also states that Romney was using the stolen uniform to pull people over, suggesting it was more than just one prank on a couple of pals (and two unsuspecting, "terrified" young women, lest we forget about them).

QuoteYou guys are hilarious. The difference between Obama and Romney is what party they are in, nothing more. Both did dumb shit when they were young that means exactly fuckall in regards to whether they should be president.

I'll concede that if this were the only negative thing Romney ever did when he was a kid, I wouldn't give a shit.  However, while it's probably the closest thing to an actual practical joke Young Romney pulled that's made the news (sorry, I don't consider hate-inspired aggravated battery all that funny), it fits into a pattern of behavior of a serial criminal and, separately and more disturbingly, a complete asshole.

Anyway, I hope when I run for office you'll be at the forefront saying that that time I got a DUI shouldn't be held against me because I was just a dumb kid. :)
Title: Re: Romney impersonated police officer
Post by: Martinus on June 11, 2012, 04:46:57 AM
The bottom line is that we all do stupid shit as kids/young adults but the kind of stupid shit we have done speaks something about our character, especially if a pattern can be discerned.

One kid may be smoking pot, another may be setting cats on fire, and yet another may be leaving bags with burning shit on someone else's porch - while each of these is "bad", each tells us something different about the person.
Title: Re: Romney impersonated police officer
Post by: Tamas on June 11, 2012, 04:48:53 AM
Yes Marty.

Altough I wouldn't worry about Romney that much. Everything about his campaign screams "status quo puppet" to me.

Obama is also that, but he campaigned as a peaceful revolution, and was everything but.
Title: Re: Romney impersonated police officer
Post by: Martinus on June 11, 2012, 04:57:09 AM
True. But I find it hypocritical for BB (of all people) to say this is "not a big deal", considering the borderline-insane take he usually has on following the law.
Title: Re: Romney impersonated police officer
Post by: CountDeMoney on June 11, 2012, 06:28:51 AM
Actually, the legal term is personating a police officer, not impersonating.  And, yeah, it's a serious crime.

But it's par for the course for a country club goof that would gang attack homosexuals and cut their hair, abuse the family dog, call the San Diego police on his neighbors for drinking beer on the beach, and saying he "longed" to serve in Vietnam while at the same time accepting 4 deferments as a "Mormon missionary" and going to France to recruit for his cult. 

The guy's a complete caricature.  A cardboard cut-out of the Monopoly Guy would have a more compelling personality.
Title: Re: Romney impersonated police officer
Post by: DGuller on June 11, 2012, 06:58:13 AM
Was it a one-time prank to fuck with buddies, or was it a regular pattern of behavior, of which the prank was only one instance?  I think Berkut has danced around this issue a bit.

I think the second interpretation is much more damning, and gives insight into the immutable personal trait.  Someone who impersonates a cop on a regular basis because he gets his jollies from pulling people over is a pretty unique kind of a creep.  Not as big of a creep as someone practicing his surgical skills on shelter cats, granted, but still a pretty eye-popping creep.
Title: Re: Romney impersonated police officer
Post by: mongers on June 11, 2012, 07:05:58 AM
Quote from: 11B4V on June 11, 2012, 02:15:46 AM
The dog on the roof was the kicker for me. Dudes a nutjob.

Yeah, I can see your point, but I wouldn't call him a nutjob, just indicates someone who doesn't have a lot of common sense and doesn't think through the immediate consequences of their actions. 

Which is quite a disadvantage for the most powerful country in the world, that he's hoping to lead. 
Title: Re: Romney impersonated police officer
Post by: CountDeMoney on June 11, 2012, 07:07:07 AM
Quote from: DGuller on June 11, 2012, 06:58:13 AM
Was it a one-time prank to fuck with buddies, or was it a regular pattern of behavior, of which the prank was only one instance?  I think Berkut has danced around this issue a bit.

Apparently it was something he liked to do more than once, with multiple references from classmates and acquaintances.  His father had scored him a Michigan State Trooper's uniform from his personal security detail as governor.  Too funny.

QuoteI think the second interpretation is much more damning, and gives insight into the immutable personal trait.  Someone who impersonates a cop on a regular basis because he gets his jollies from pulling people over is a pretty unique kind of a creep.  Not as big of a creep as someone practicing his surgical skills on shelter cats, granted, but still a pretty eye-popping creep.

lol, yes I would agree that Trent Lott's youthful escapades was substantially more sociopathic than Romney.  :lol:

The Vice squad guys used to arrest people personating officers all the time.  You know why?  They'd use fake badges to shake down prostitutes for free blow jobs.

Then again, we'd lock people up trying to sneak into the hospital pretending to be doctors, too.
Title: Re: Romney impersonated police officer
Post by: Darth Wagtaros on June 11, 2012, 07:08:25 AM
Quote from: Martinus on June 11, 2012, 01:35:47 AM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on June 11, 2012, 01:34:18 AM
Quote from: Berkut on June 11, 2012, 01:26:54 AM
Sociopath?

The dog thing and the dye job thing can both be read that way. This one, not so much.

This one involves (i) doing something wrong (which is also a crime), (ii) abusing privilege and (iii) causing distress to random people for kicks. I'd say this can be read as sociopathic too.
So "some guy" and "some guy"'s wife said he did something, and suddenly he is a sociopathic monster?
Title: Re: Romney impersonated police officer
Post by: DGuller on June 11, 2012, 07:09:11 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 11, 2012, 07:07:07 AM
Quote from: DGuller on June 11, 2012, 06:58:13 AM
Was it a one-time prank to fuck with buddies, or was it a regular pattern of behavior, of which the prank was only one instance?  I think Berkut has danced around this issue a bit.

Apparently it was something he liked to do more than once, with multiple references from classmates and acquaintances.  His father had scored him a Michigan State Trooper's uniform from his personal security detail as governor.  Too funny.

QuoteI think the second interpretation is much more damning, and gives insight into the immutable personal trait.  Someone who impersonates a cop on a regular basis because he gets his jollies from pulling people over is a pretty unique kind of a creep.  Not as big of a creep as someone practicing his surgical skills on shelter cats, granted, but still a pretty eye-popping creep.

lol, yes I would agree that Trent Lott's youthful escapades was substantially more sociopathic than Romney.  :lol:

The Vice squad guys used to arrest people personating officers all the time.  You know why?  They'd use fake badges to shake down prostitutes for free blow jobs.

Then again, we'd lock people up trying to sneak into the hospital pretending to be doctors, too.
WTF, Seedy?  You can't even keep the offenders of the crimes against felinity straight?
Title: Re: Romney impersonated police officer
Post by: CountDeMoney on June 11, 2012, 07:10:16 AM
Quote from: mongers on June 11, 2012, 07:05:58 AM
Quote from: 11B4V on June 11, 2012, 02:15:46 AM
The dog on the roof was the kicker for me. Dudes a nutjob.

Yeah, I can see your point, but I wouldn't call him a nutjob, just indicates someone who doesn't have a lot of common sense and doesn't think through the immediate consequences of their actions. 

Which is quite a disadvantage for most powerful country in the world, that he's hoping to lead.

Actually, it's indictment of his moral compass more than anything.  Common sense, sure;  but more indicative of common morality.
Title: Re: Romney impersonated police officer
Post by: CountDeMoney on June 11, 2012, 07:11:30 AM
Quote from: DGuller on June 11, 2012, 07:09:11 AM
WTF, Seedy?  You can't even keep the offenders of the crimes against felinity straight?

:lol:  Oops.  Sorry, Trent.

I'm still on my first cup of coffee, man.  It's all fuzzy until 10 am.
Title: Re: Romney impersonated police officer
Post by: Neil on June 11, 2012, 07:32:46 AM
See, these sorts of stories and reactions by stupid people (Martinus) are why you guys can never have anyone interesting as President anymore.  Still, the reactions here are a good indication why negative campaigning is so successful.
Title: Re: Romney impersonated police officer
Post by: jimmy olsen on June 11, 2012, 07:36:25 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 11, 2012, 06:28:51 AM
Actually, the legal term is personating a police officer, not impersonating.  And, yeah, it's a serious crime.
What's the difference? :unsure:
Title: Re: Romney impersonated police officer
Post by: CountDeMoney on June 11, 2012, 07:36:56 AM
Quote from: Neil on June 11, 2012, 07:32:46 AM
See, these sorts of stories and reactions by stupid people (Martinus) are why you guys can never have anyone interesting as President anymore.  Still, the reactions here are a good indication why negative campaigning is so successful.

:lol:

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Title: Re: Romney impersonated police officer
Post by: CountDeMoney on June 11, 2012, 07:40:03 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on June 11, 2012, 07:36:25 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 11, 2012, 06:28:51 AM
Actually, the legal term is personating a police officer, not impersonating.  And, yeah, it's a serious crime.
What's the difference? :unsure:

Fuck if I know.  We were just taught the charge was "personate", and it's in the Code as such. Probably because it was written in the 19th century. 
Title: Re: Romney impersonated police officer
Post by: garbon on June 11, 2012, 08:16:46 AM
This thread is funny.
Title: Re: Romney impersonated police officer
Post by: DontSayBanana on June 11, 2012, 08:17:50 AM
Quote from: Ideologue on June 11, 2012, 02:17:02 AM
You may want to reanalyze your position.

For one thing, yeah, impersonating a police officer is very much a "crime crime," dude, and, yes, you can go to prison for a year in this state if you do it.  (And TBH, I'm shocked and appalled it's only a misdemeanor, given the tremendous danger someone impersonating a police officer can pose.  I'd be willing to bet it's a felony in at least some states.)

:yes: In NJ, it's a misdemeanor if you simply impersonate an official, once you add law enforcement into the equation, it becomes a felony.
Title: Re: Romney impersonated police officer
Post by: garbon on June 11, 2012, 08:20:54 AM
Quote from: Ideologue on June 11, 2012, 02:40:28 AM
I'm pretty sure if I'd dressed like a cop when I was a kid in order to pull over some of my pals, and I'd been intercepted by a real cop, I'd have gone to jail.  (Especially if I was also a minor in possession of alcohol, like in the story.)

You also have something that Romney doesn't have.
Title: Re: Romney impersonated police officer
Post by: PDH on June 11, 2012, 08:27:13 AM
Quote from: garbon on June 11, 2012, 08:20:54 AM
Quote from: Ideologue on June 11, 2012, 02:40:28 AM
I'm pretty sure if I'd dressed like a cop when I was a kid in order to pull over some of my pals, and I'd been intercepted by a real cop, I'd have gone to jail.  (Especially if I was also a minor in possession of alcohol, like in the story.)

You also have something that Romney doesn't have.

Sex with gentiles?
Title: Re: Romney impersonated police officer
Post by: Sheilbh on June 11, 2012, 08:34:52 AM
I thought this might be a story that would make me like Romney more.  Maybe it would show his human side through youthful indiscretions.  No.  Just creepy.
Title: Re: Romney impersonated police officer
Post by: garbon on June 11, 2012, 08:49:45 AM
Quote from: Sheilbh on June 11, 2012, 08:34:52 AM
I thought this might be a story that would make me like Romney more.  Maybe it would show his human side through youthful indiscretions.  No.  Just creepy.

Yeah right. Let's be honest on the chances that you were going to like Romney more after this story. :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Romney impersonated police officer
Post by: garbon on June 11, 2012, 08:50:41 AM
Also Rinconada : :x
Title: Re: Romney impersonated police officer
Post by: Barrister on June 11, 2012, 08:50:53 AM
Quote from: Martinus on June 11, 2012, 04:57:09 AM
True. But I find it hypocritical for BB (of all people) to say this is "not a big deal", considering the borderline-insane take he usually has on following the law.

I'd like to think I'm pretty consistent on not deciding who I support based on stuff that happened 20+ years ago.  Call me crazy, but I like to support someone based on their policies.
Title: Re: Romney impersonated police officer
Post by: PDH on June 11, 2012, 08:56:54 AM
Quote from: Barrister on June 11, 2012, 08:50:53 AM
I'd like to think I'm pretty consistent on not deciding who I support based on stuff that happened 20+ years ago.  Call me crazy, but I like to support someone based on their policies.

You say that now, but had he mocked and derided curling 20 years ago you would be screaming for blood.
Title: Re: Romney impersonated police officer
Post by: CountDeMoney on June 11, 2012, 09:00:52 AM
Quote from: PDH on June 11, 2012, 08:56:54 AM
Quote from: Barrister on June 11, 2012, 08:50:53 AM
I'd like to think I'm pretty consistent on not deciding who I support based on stuff that happened 20+ years ago.  Call me crazy, but I like to support someone based on their policies.

You say that now, but had he mocked and derided curling 20 years ago you would be screaming for blood.

Maybe Romney wasn't into sport back then. "Sport".  Who even talks like that?*







*Aside from Lettow, that is.
Title: Re: Romney impersonated police officer
Post by: 11B4V on June 11, 2012, 09:29:09 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 11, 2012, 09:00:52 AM
Quote from: PDH on June 11, 2012, 08:56:54 AM
Quote from: Barrister on June 11, 2012, 08:50:53 AM
I'd like to think I'm pretty consistent on not deciding who I support based on stuff that happened 20+ years ago.  Call me crazy, but I like to support someone based on their policies.

You say that now, but had he mocked and derided curling 20 years ago you would be screaming for blood.

Maybe Romney wasn't into sport back then. "Sport".  Who even talks like that?*







*Aside from Lettow, that is.

His "sport" was bullying and fucking with people back then, because he/daddy was privileged. I remember "seeing" and "dealing" with punks like him back in grade school through HS.

His popularity back then was linked to daddy and privilege.
Title: Re: Romney impersonated police officer
Post by: Scipio on June 11, 2012, 09:53:57 AM
Impersonating a police officer is something most cops do on a daily basis.
Title: Re: Romney impersonated police officer
Post by: 11B4V on June 11, 2012, 09:55:53 AM
Quote from: Scipio on June 11, 2012, 09:53:57 AM
Impersonating a police officer is something most a few cops do on a daily basis.
Title: Re: Romney impersonated police officer
Post by: grumbler on June 11, 2012, 09:58:30 AM
This thread is almost, but not quite, as amusing as the "dog-gate" thread.

Yeah, it sounds like Mitt was a tool when he was in high school and college, but we knew that from the bullying bit already.  That he and some friends pranked those friends' girlfriends by him dressing as a state trooper and pretending to arrest his friends isn't anything that I would consider when deciding whether or not to vote for him, not least because it was more than 40 years ago.
Title: Re: Romney impersonated police officer
Post by: Darth Wagtaros on June 11, 2012, 10:00:21 AM
Quote from: grumbler on June 11, 2012, 09:58:30 AM
This thread is almost, but not quite, as amusing as the "dog-gate" thread.

Yeah, it sounds like Mitt was a tool when he was in high school and college, but we knew that from the bullying bit already.  That he and some friends pranked those friends' girlfriends by him dressing as a state trooper and pretending to arrest his friends isn't anything that I would consider when deciding whether or not to vote for him, not least because it was more than 40 years ago.
At the time it could have been funny.  I might have found it so in any case.
Title: Re: Romney impersonated police officer
Post by: CountDeMoney on June 11, 2012, 10:00:42 AM
Quote from: Scipio on June 11, 2012, 09:53:57 AM
Impersonating a police officer is something most cops do on a daily basis.

Nyuk, nyuk, nyuk.
Title: Re: Romney impersonated police officer
Post by: CountDeMoney on June 11, 2012, 10:03:55 AM
Quote from: grumbler on June 11, 2012, 09:58:30 AM
This thread is almost, but not quite, as amusing as the "dog-gate" thread.

Yeah, it sounds like Mitt was a tool when he was in high school and college, but we knew that from the bullying bit already.  That he and some friends pranked those friends' girlfriends by him dressing as a state trooper and pretending to arrest his friends isn't anything that I would consider when deciding whether or not to vote for him, not least because it was more than 40 years ago.

But see, we can't talk about his goofy ass faith, his vulture capitalism, Massachusetts, his income taxes, his unemployed wife or his begging the Federal government to bail out the Olympics budget he managed to blow.  So we have to talk about something else.
Title: Re: Romney impersonated police officer
Post by: grumbler on June 11, 2012, 10:08:25 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 11, 2012, 10:03:55 AM
But see, we can't talk about his goofy ass faith...

What is this, the Department of Redundancy Department?
Title: Re: Romney impersonated police officer
Post by: Ideologue on June 11, 2012, 11:16:22 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 11, 2012, 06:28:51 AM
Actually, the legal term is personating a police officer, not impersonating.  And, yeah, it's a serious crime.

Maybe in Maryland, but not in S.C. Code 16-17-720.
Title: Re: Romney impersonated police officer
Post by: Ideologue on June 11, 2012, 11:19:25 AM
Quote from: garbon on June 11, 2012, 08:20:54 AM
Quote from: Ideologue on June 11, 2012, 02:40:28 AM
I'm pretty sure if I'd dressed like a cop when I was a kid in order to pull over some of my pals, and I'd been intercepted by a real cop, I'd have gone to jail.  (Especially if I was also a minor in possession of alcohol, like in the story.)

You also have something that Romney doesn't have.

Human body language?
Title: Re: Romney impersonated police officer
Post by: derspiess on June 11, 2012, 11:20:18 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 11, 2012, 06:28:51 AM
Actually, the legal term is personating a police officer, not impersonating.  And, yeah, it's a serious crime.

Do strippers get some sort of exemption?
Title: Re: Romney impersonated police officer
Post by: garbon on June 11, 2012, 11:41:48 AM
Quote from: Ideologue on June 11, 2012, 11:19:25 AM
Quote from: garbon on June 11, 2012, 08:20:54 AM
Quote from: Ideologue on June 11, 2012, 02:40:28 AM
I'm pretty sure if I'd dressed like a cop when I was a kid in order to pull over some of my pals, and I'd been intercepted by a real cop, I'd have gone to jail.  (Especially if I was also a minor in possession of alcohol, like in the story.)

You also have something that Romney doesn't have.

Human body language?

Let's think about something that might make a cop more likely to punish you.
Title: Re: Romney impersonated police officer
Post by: Ideologue on June 11, 2012, 12:10:21 PM
Quote from: garbon on June 11, 2012, 11:41:48 AM
Quote from: Ideologue on June 11, 2012, 11:19:25 AM
Quote from: garbon on June 11, 2012, 08:20:54 AM
Quote from: Ideologue on June 11, 2012, 02:40:28 AM
I'm pretty sure if I'd dressed like a cop when I was a kid in order to pull over some of my pals, and I'd been intercepted by a real cop, I'd have gone to jail.  (Especially if I was also a minor in possession of alcohol, like in the story.)

You also have something that Romney doesn't have.

Human body language?

Let's think about something that might make a cop more likely to punish you.

I dunno.  Mitt Romney has a formal education instead of a degree in criminal justice from ITT Tech.  And he probably understands his legal rights, too.  So I'm out of ideas.
Title: Re: Romney impersonated police officer
Post by: Sheilbh on June 11, 2012, 12:20:49 PM
Quote from: garbon on June 11, 2012, 08:49:45 AM
Quote from: Sheilbh on June 11, 2012, 08:34:52 AM
I thought this might be a story that would make me like Romney more.  Maybe it would show his human side through youthful indiscretions.  No.  Just creepy.

Yeah right. Let's be honest on the chances that you were going to like Romney more after this story. :rolleyes:
There have been stories posted on Languish that made me like him more, or pseudo-controversies that made me think more of him.  I'm not so fixed as you :P
Title: Re: Romney impersonated police officer
Post by: stjaba on June 11, 2012, 01:00:02 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 11, 2012, 06:28:51 AM

The guy's a complete caricature.  A cardboard cut-out of the Monopoly Guy would have a more compelling personality.

The sad thing is that he was the best Republican candidate.
Title: Re: Romney impersonated police officer
Post by: garbon on June 11, 2012, 01:01:48 PM
Quote from: Sheilbh on June 11, 2012, 12:20:49 PM
Quote from: garbon on June 11, 2012, 08:49:45 AM
Quote from: Sheilbh on June 11, 2012, 08:34:52 AM
I thought this might be a story that would make me like Romney more.  Maybe it would show his human side through youthful indiscretions.  No.  Just creepy.

Yeah right. Let's be honest on the chances that you were going to like Romney more after this story. :rolleyes:
There have been stories posted on Languish that made me like him more, or pseudo-controversies that made me think more of him.  I'm not so fixed as you :P

Well it is true that I dislike him. :P
Title: Re: Romney impersonated police officer
Post by: garbon on June 11, 2012, 01:02:16 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on June 11, 2012, 12:10:21 PM
Quote from: garbon on June 11, 2012, 11:41:48 AM
Quote from: Ideologue on June 11, 2012, 11:19:25 AM
Quote from: garbon on June 11, 2012, 08:20:54 AM
Quote from: Ideologue on June 11, 2012, 02:40:28 AM
I'm pretty sure if I'd dressed like a cop when I was a kid in order to pull over some of my pals, and I'd been intercepted by a real cop, I'd have gone to jail.  (Especially if I was also a minor in possession of alcohol, like in the story.)

You also have something that Romney doesn't have.

Human body language?

Let's think about something that might make a cop more likely to punish you.

I dunno.  Mitt Romney has a formal education instead of a degree in criminal justice from ITT Tech.  And he probably understands his legal rights, too.  So I'm out of ideas.

Rap sheet.
Title: Re: Romney impersonated police officer
Post by: alfred russel on June 11, 2012, 01:45:22 PM
It may be worth mentioning that law enforcement in the 1960s wasn't the same as today. A cop finding a clean cut college student pranking people in a police uniform might not think the same thing as the would today. His father the governor did get him the uniform, presumably knowing what it might be used for (though maybe thinking it would just be for a costume party).
Title: Re: Romney impersonated police officer
Post by: Berkut on June 11, 2012, 02:39:27 PM
Quote from: alfred russel on June 11, 2012, 01:45:22 PM
It may be worth mentioning that law enforcement in the 1960s wasn't the same as today. A cop finding a clean cut college student pranking people in a police uniform might not think the same thing as the would today. His father the governor did get him the uniform, presumably knowing what it might be used for (though maybe thinking it would just be for a costume party).

No, even today any cop finding some college student with no record playing a prank might arrest him - but no charges would ever be filed, because the justice system has better things to do. He would give up the uniform, spend a night in jail at the most (and almost certainly not that since his dad is governor) and that would be that.

Now if he is impersonating a police officer to try to get something from such impersonation, that is another thing entirely of course.

This is such a minor issue, when there are so many very good reasons to not like Mitt Romney.
Title: Re: Romney impersonated police officer
Post by: mongers on June 11, 2012, 02:50:28 PM
Quote from: Berkut on June 11, 2012, 02:39:27 PM
Quote from: alfred russel on June 11, 2012, 01:45:22 PM
It may be worth mentioning that law enforcement in the 1960s wasn't the same as today. A cop finding a clean cut college student pranking people in a police uniform might not think the same thing as the would today. His father the governor did get him the uniform, presumably knowing what it might be used for (though maybe thinking it would just be for a costume party).

No, even today any cop finding some college student with no record playing a prank might arrest him - but no charges would ever be filed, because the justice system has better things to do. He would give up the uniform, spend a night in jail at the most (and almost certainly not that since his dad is governor) and that would be that.

Now if he is impersonating a police officer to try to get something from such impersonation, that is another thing entirely of course.

This is such a minor issue, when there are so many very good reasons to not like Mitt Romney.

Really, maybe we should ask any current or former law officers what there attitude would be.

Was this just a prank ?

http://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/2012/05/metairie_man_booked_with_imper_1.html (http://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/2012/05/metairie_man_booked_with_imper_1.html)



I wonder what will happen to this Romneyesque 17 year old prankster ?

http://news92fm.com/253249/teen-accused-of-impersonating-a-police-officer-pulled-other-drivers-over/ (http://news92fm.com/253249/teen-accused-of-impersonating-a-police-officer-pulled-other-drivers-over/)

edit:
he's been charge with a third degree felony offense, is that serious or little more than a stern telling off ?
http://www.yourhoustonnews.com/tomball/news/tomball-teen-arrested-for-impersonating-a-police-officer/article_7197ffca-7454-5355-a1f5-b81cb51d2ca3.html (http://www.yourhoustonnews.com/tomball/news/tomball-teen-arrested-for-impersonating-a-police-officer/article_7197ffca-7454-5355-a1f5-b81cb51d2ca3.html)
Title: Re: Romney impersonated police officer
Post by: CountDeMoney on June 11, 2012, 03:01:57 PM
Quote from: mongers on June 11, 2012, 02:50:28 PMReally, maybe we should ask any current or former law officers what there attitude would be.

You're not gonna get any mileage out of that debate around here, Mongers.  That's why I'm not even bothering.  HES THE GOP ROMINEE.
Title: Re: Romney impersonated police officer
Post by: Berkut on June 11, 2012, 03:03:15 PM
I imagine it depends on what the investigation turns up, doesn't it?

Should I go and find 485,000 examples of people who are doing prison time for using cocaine, and we can all discuss what a criminal the President is?
Title: Re: Romney impersonated police officer
Post by: Jacob on June 11, 2012, 03:08:25 PM
I don't like Romney at all, but dressing up as a police officer to prank somebody is not that big a deal to me. I mean, yeah, maybe it's part of a larger picture that Romney is an overprivileged twat who likes to be mean to other people because he thinks that's funny. Sure.

But the whole "serious crime" and "felony" bit? Really doesn't matter.
Title: Re: Romney impersonated police officer
Post by: CountDeMoney on June 11, 2012, 03:11:05 PM
Quote from: Jacob on June 11, 2012, 03:08:25 PM
I mean, yeah, maybe it's part of a larger picture that Romney is an overprivileged twat who likes to be mean to other people because he thinks that's funny. Sure.

This. 

Simply Exhibit #263 of Why He's An Entitled Douche.
Title: Re: Romney impersonated police officer
Post by: Barrister on June 11, 2012, 03:24:58 PM
Quote from: Berkut on June 11, 2012, 02:39:27 PM
Quote from: alfred russel on June 11, 2012, 01:45:22 PM
It may be worth mentioning that law enforcement in the 1960s wasn't the same as today. A cop finding a clean cut college student pranking people in a police uniform might not think the same thing as the would today. His father the governor did get him the uniform, presumably knowing what it might be used for (though maybe thinking it would just be for a costume party).

No, even today any cop finding some college student with no record playing a prank might arrest him - but no charges would ever be filed, because the justice system has better things to do. He would give up the uniform, spend a night in jail at the most (and almost certainly not that since his dad is governor) and that would be that.

Now if he is impersonating a police officer to try to get something from such impersonation, that is another thing entirely of course.

This is such a minor issue, when there are so many very good reasons to not like Mitt Romney.

Putting aside the fact his dad was governor (though of Michigan, not California, where this happened)...

If this happened today I doubt very much it'd be treated that lightly.  I can tell you that impersonating a peace officer is not an offence that would be diverted out of the court stream in Canada.  I very much doubt someone would go to jail, and they might wind up avoiding a criminal record, but it wouldn't be "the justice system has better things to do".

40 years ago, though...
Title: Re: Romney impersonated police officer
Post by: CountDeMoney on June 11, 2012, 03:27:27 PM
I think Berkut should test his theory, and try to impersonate a New York State Trooper and attempt to pull over a car full of college girls.  I really do.
Title: Re: Romney impersonated police officer
Post by: CountDeMoney on June 11, 2012, 03:29:03 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on June 11, 2012, 11:16:22 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 11, 2012, 06:28:51 AM
Actually, the legal term is personating a police officer, not impersonating.  And, yeah, it's a serious crime.

Maybe in Maryland, but not in S.C. Code 16-17-720.

Fuck your redneck state.

What's S.C. Code 16-17-721?  No more than 3 negroes can legally assemble in public?
Title: Re: Romney impersonated police officer
Post by: DGuller on June 11, 2012, 03:33:15 PM
Again, everyone seems to ignore this question, but how regular was this behavior?  Was this a one-time prank, like many replying here assume, or did Mitt reguarly like to play cop, as seems to be alluded to in the original article?  Impersonating a cop regularly seems like an entirely different malfunction compared to doing it once as a prank.
Title: Re: Romney impersonated police officer
Post by: Berkut on June 11, 2012, 03:36:58 PM
Quote from: DGuller on June 11, 2012, 03:33:15 PM
Again, everyone seems to ignore this question, but how regular was this behavior?  Was this a one-time prank, like many replying here assume, or did Mitt reguarly like to play cop, as seems to be alluded to in the original article?  Impersonating a cop regularly seems like an entirely different malfunction compared to doing it once as a prank.
This is a good point, actually.

If this was something he did regularly, that would be kind of bizarre.

And dragging my other analogy in, same thing with Obama and his cocaine use. Once in a while, fucking around in college? Probably no big deal.

Regular user? Yeah...that is a bit different.

From all information I've heard about Obama, it was the former rather than the latter.
Title: Re: Romney impersonated police officer
Post by: CountDeMoney on June 11, 2012, 03:39:51 PM
Quote from: DGuller on June 11, 2012, 03:33:15 PM
Again, everyone seems to ignore this question, but how regular was this behavior?  Was this a one-time prank, like many replying here assume, or did Mitt reguarly like to play cop, as seems to be alluded to in the original article?  Impersonating a cop regularly seems like an entirely different malfunction compared to doing it once as a prank.

Apparently, he had quite the penchant for it.  Multiple times.  Multiple statements from multiple witnesses.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/07/classmates-mitt-romney-im_n_1575680.html
Title: Re: Romney impersonated police officer
Post by: derspiess on June 11, 2012, 03:41:25 PM
Quote from: Berkut on June 11, 2012, 03:36:58 PM
And dragging my other analogy in, same thing with Obama and his cocaine use. Once in a while, fucking around in college? Probably no big deal.

Regular user? Yeah...that is a bit different.

From all information I've heard about Obama, it was the former rather than the latter.

If a politician says he never did any drugs, that means he did a little.  If a politician says he did a little drugs, that means he did a lot.

Or something.
Title: Re: Romney impersonated police officer
Post by: derspiess on June 11, 2012, 03:42:54 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 11, 2012, 03:39:51 PM
Quote from: DGuller on June 11, 2012, 03:33:15 PM
Again, everyone seems to ignore this question, but how regular was this behavior?  Was this a one-time prank, like many replying here assume, or did Mitt reguarly like to play cop, as seems to be alluded to in the original article?  Impersonating a cop regularly seems like an entirely different malfunction compared to doing it once as a prank.

Apparently, he had quite the penchant for it.  Multiple times.  Multiple statements from multiple witnesses.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/07/classmates-mitt-romney-im_n_1575680.html

:o That's it, I'm changing my vote.  To the Choom Wagon!!
Title: Re: Romney impersonated police officer
Post by: CountDeMoney on June 11, 2012, 03:45:07 PM
Quote from: derspiess on June 11, 2012, 03:42:54 PM
:o That's it, I'm changing my vote.  To the Choom Wagon!!

Fuck it, I'm still voting for the black dude that was fun at parties.
Title: Re: Romney impersonated police officer
Post by: grumbler on June 11, 2012, 06:41:22 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 11, 2012, 03:39:51 PM
Quote from: DGuller on June 11, 2012, 03:33:15 PM
Again, everyone seems to ignore this question, but how regular was this behavior?  Was this a one-time prank, like many replying here assume, or did Mitt reguarly like to play cop, as seems to be alluded to in the original article?  Impersonating a cop regularly seems like an entirely different malfunction compared to doing it once as a prank.

Apparently, he had quite the penchant for it.  Multiple times.  Multiple statements from multiple witnesses.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/07/classmates-mitt-romney-im_n_1575680.html

Actually, the story says that he bragged to his friends that he did it.  That's not the same as actually doing it.  There's just the one case where he actually is known to have done it.

As said earlier, this is about a man who has serious issues in other arenas.  Bragging to his college friends isn't a crime, and doesn't even factor on the scale of douchiness that he has set already.

That doesn't mean I won't vote for him, douchiness and all.  It is a factor, though - but a factor based on real issues, not 40-year-old pranks or using a dog carrier to transport a dog.
Title: Re: Romney impersonated police officer
Post by: Kleves on June 11, 2012, 08:13:47 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 11, 2012, 03:39:51 PM
Apparently, he had quite the penchant for it.  Multiple times.  Multiple statements from multiple witnesses.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/07/classmates-mitt-romney-im_n_1575680.html
You didn't even read your own link, did you? It's essentially the same story from the OP. The "evidence" that he had done it multiple times is from a husband and wife who say Romney told them 40 years ago that he liked dressing up as a cop and pulling people over. That's hardly conclusive.

That said, if it turns out that Romney did have a habit of playing dress up and pulling people over, that's pretty damn nutty.
Title: Re: Romney impersonated police officer
Post by: Jaron on June 11, 2012, 08:35:33 PM
Welp, Romney just lost my vote.
Title: Re: Romney impersonated police officer
Post by: Scipio on June 11, 2012, 08:37:15 PM
Quote from: Jaron on June 11, 2012, 08:35:33 PM
Welp, Romney just lost my vote.
Doesn't your being a crypto-Mason wannabe require you to vote for His Mittness?
Title: Re: Romney impersonated police officer
Post by: Neil on June 11, 2012, 08:37:40 PM
Quote from: Jaron on June 11, 2012, 08:35:33 PM
Welp, Romney just lost my vote.
Now those Mormon girls will never sex you up.
Title: Re: Romney impersonated police officer
Post by: Jaron on June 11, 2012, 08:38:14 PM
If President Monson receives a revelation and instructs us to maybe, but he is unlikely to do that.
Title: Re: Romney impersonated police officer
Post by: Eddie Teach on June 11, 2012, 08:46:13 PM
Quote from: Jaron on June 11, 2012, 08:35:33 PM
Welp, Romney just lost my vote.

Good. Now move to a state where he's not going to get 2/3 of the votes anyway.
Title: Re: Romney impersonated police officer
Post by: jimmy olsen on June 11, 2012, 08:49:48 PM
Quote from: derspiess on June 11, 2012, 03:42:54 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 11, 2012, 03:39:51 PM
Quote from: DGuller on June 11, 2012, 03:33:15 PM
Again, everyone seems to ignore this question, but how regular was this behavior?  Was this a one-time prank, like many replying here assume, or did Mitt reguarly like to play cop, as seems to be alluded to in the original article?  Impersonating a cop regularly seems like an entirely different malfunction compared to doing it once as a prank.

Apparently, he had quite the penchant for it.  Multiple times.  Multiple statements from multiple witnesses.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/07/classmates-mitt-romney-im_n_1575680.html

:o That's it, I'm changing my vote.  To the Choom Wagon!!
Choom?
Title: Re: Romney impersonated police officer
Post by: derspiess on June 11, 2012, 09:00:38 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on June 11, 2012, 08:49:48 PM
Choom?

Yeah, choom.

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/05/obama-and-his-pot-smoking-choom-gang/
Title: Re: Romney impersonated police officer
Post by: CountDeMoney on June 11, 2012, 09:34:44 PM
Quote from: Kleves on June 11, 2012, 08:13:47 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 11, 2012, 03:39:51 PM
Apparently, he had quite the penchant for it.  Multiple times.  Multiple statements from multiple witnesses.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/07/classmates-mitt-romney-im_n_1575680.html
You didn't even read your own link, did you? It's essentially the same story from the OP.

Meh, after 7 pages, I really can't be bothered. 

But like grumbler and Berkie say, there's plenty of real reasons to dislike the guy.
Title: Re: Romney impersonated police officer
Post by: garbon on June 11, 2012, 10:11:37 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 11, 2012, 09:34:44 PM
But like grumbler and Berkie say, there's plenty of real reasons to dislike the guy.

That's what you are falling back on? :D
Title: Re: Romney impersonated police officer
Post by: Jaron on June 11, 2012, 10:24:09 PM
CHOOT HIM, TIM!
Title: Re: Romney impersonated police officer
Post by: CountDeMoney on June 11, 2012, 10:42:34 PM
Quote from: garbon on June 11, 2012, 10:11:37 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 11, 2012, 09:34:44 PM
But like grumbler and Berkie say, there's plenty of real reasons to dislike the guy.

That's what you are falling back on? :D

Like I said before, I think his anti-protester protesting and "longing" to serve in Vietnam, while still accepting 4 deferments and hiding in France, is a lot more insightful of the guy's character than being a dickhead with a red light on his Rambler.  Oh, and physically assaulting somebody and cutting his hair says something, too.  As does animal abuse.
Title: Re: Romney impersonated police officer
Post by: 11B4V on June 11, 2012, 10:44:50 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 11, 2012, 10:42:34 PM
Quote from: garbon on June 11, 2012, 10:11:37 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 11, 2012, 09:34:44 PM
But like grumbler and Berkie say, there's plenty of real reasons to dislike the guy.

That's what you are falling back on? :D

Like I said before, I think his anti-protester protesting and "longing" to serve in Vietnam, while still accepting 4 deferments and hiding in France, is a lot more insightful of the guy's character than being a dickhead with a red light on his Rambler.  Oh, and physically assaulting somebody and cutting his hair says something, too.  As does animal abuse.

Agree
Title: Re: Romney impersonated police officer
Post by: Neil on June 11, 2012, 10:49:57 PM
Animal abuse?

Being anti-protester is  a good thing.  I'll give you the Vietnam thing, but why is it that all your complaints are 40 years out of date?
Title: Re: Romney impersonated police officer
Post by: CountDeMoney on June 11, 2012, 10:54:28 PM
Quote from: Neil on June 11, 2012, 10:49:57 PM
Animal abuse?

Being anti-protester is  a good thing.  I'll give you the Vietnam thing, but why is it that all your complaints are 40 years out of date?

Because Bain Capital Gordon Gekkoism, Massachusetts, Romneycare, Teabagger economic suicide, and padding around in white robes like an extra from Defending Your Life baptizing dead Jews has been boring of late.
Title: Re: Romney impersonated police officer
Post by: Jaron on June 11, 2012, 10:57:38 PM
Hey now, leave the Church out of this.
Title: Re: Romney impersonated police officer
Post by: sbr on June 11, 2012, 11:03:01 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 11, 2012, 10:54:28 PM
Quote from: Neil on June 11, 2012, 10:49:57 PM
Animal abuse?

Being anti-protester is  a good thing.  I'll give you the Vietnam thing, but why is it that all your complaints are 40 years out of date?

...padding around in white robes like an extra from Defending Your Life ....

:lol: 
Title: Re: Romney impersonated police officer
Post by: Ideologue on June 11, 2012, 11:45:37 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 11, 2012, 03:29:03 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on June 11, 2012, 11:16:22 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 11, 2012, 06:28:51 AM
Actually, the legal term is personating a police officer, not impersonating.  And, yeah, it's a serious crime.

Maybe in Maryland, but not in S.C. Code 16-17-720.

Fuck your redneck state.

What's S.C. Code 16-17-721?  No more than 3 negroes can legally assemble in public?

If it were, wouldn't you have already moved here? :P