Poll
Question:
Have you ever been to a strip club?
Option 1: Yes (USA)
votes: 25
Option 2: Yes (ROTW)
votes: 14
Option 3: No (USA)
votes: 13
Option 4: No (ROTW)
votes: 14
Option 5: I never leave my basement, and I have internet here (worldwide)
votes: 0
The mention in Caliga's AAR to roadside strip clubs with "college nights" decided me to create this thread, as it was something that had crossed my mind a couple of times.
So, my (admitedly incomplete) perception through anecdotes and the media is that strip/gentlemen clubs are way more accepted and/or legit in the States than anywhere else. Over here they're invariably seedy, but in the US you have the "co-ed paying her way through college" trope, for instance, and they're featured in mainstream media with normal middle-class people attending.
Is this perception correct? How frequented are they by forum members?
In my somewhat limited experiences they are less accepted in the US than in Canada(Vegas excepted). Some places here they aren't allowed to actually strip.
I believe in some States you can't mix alcohol with full nudity. So typically strippers were g-strings so the patrons can drink. But otherwise there's nothing illegitimate about them, I don't think.
Quote from: Maximus on May 02, 2012, 01:55:41 PM
In my somewhat limited experiences they are less accepted in the US than in Canada(Vegas excepted). Some places here they aren't allowed to actually strip.
Ok, feel free to lump Canada with the USA for poll purposes.
I live in suburban hell of Montreal. I can walk to 4 strip club.
Way more accepted?
Not really in my experience at least not in regards of the women who work there and how they are viewed.
Quote from: katmai on May 02, 2012, 02:10:03 PM
Way more accepted?
Not really in my experience at least not in regards of the women who work there and how they are viewed.
But what about the patrons? Is it entertainment for lowlife scum or acceptable for middle class peeps?
Quote from: Josephus on May 02, 2012, 01:59:00 PM
I believe in some States you can't mix alcohol with full nudity. So typically strippers were g-strings so the patrons can drink. But otherwise there's nothing illegitimate about them, I don't think.
You're right; for instance, in Ohio IIRC, they're juice bars. No alcohol permitted. But I'm not sure if that's a county-by-county thing, Monkey Anger can answer that.
Some ordinances vary from jurisdiction regarding the type of nudity permitted; for instance, Baltimore City allows nipplage, but not Baltimore County.
And some jurisdictions don't allow women to enter as patrons, period.
I don't think it's lowlife scum entertainment at all. Some of these clubs can be quite pricey. At least that's what GF tells me.
Quote from: The Larch on May 02, 2012, 01:50:31 PM
Is this perception correct? How frequented are they by forum members?
I can safely say that I frequented them substantially more as adjunct to my duties than as a patron.
Well use to be part of Saturday night routine with my buddies back in San Diego, go to baseball game, then a bar and then end the night at Strip club...
I'll let you decide if I'm lowlife scum or middle class Larchie :P
Quote from: The Larch on May 02, 2012, 01:50:31 PM
The mention in Caliga's AAR to roadside strip clubs with "college nights" decided me to create this thread, as it was something that had crossed my mind a couple of times.
So, my (admitedly incomplete) perception through anecdotes and the media is that strip/gentlemen clubs are way more accepted and/or legit in the States than anywhere else.
Are you sure about that? I spent a week in Marbella in the summer of 2009. I noticed at least one or two "Lap Dance Clubs" (I think is what they were called). They were in a nice touristy part of town and obviously catered to the British tourists. Anyways, the strip clubs actually looked nicer(at least from the outside) than the strip clubs in Florida.
Anyways, in the US, I think attitudes vary by region. In Florida, they are quite prevalent. Tampa is particularly well known for having a lot of strip clubs. There's a six foot rule in Tampa(i.e. can't get within six feet of a nude stripper) that is universally ignored.
I think the general attitude is that strips clubs are low class(from both a customer and employee standpoint), but obviously they are well patronized regardless, including by plenty of middle class and wealthy people. Also, obviously, there are a range of establishments from high end to low end. In the low end places it is not uncommon to be able to have sex in a back room. This is true for Asian massage parlors, spas, or lingerie modelling studios etc. also.
Edit:
One last point- there was a story in Tampa Bay Times recently about the local strip clubs remodeling, bringing in out of town strippers, etc. for the Republican National Convention in late August. They've had to bring in out of town strippers in the past when the Super Bowl was in town too. So, obviously there's plenty of wealthy patronage of strip clubs.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 02, 2012, 02:14:48 PM
Some ordinances vary from jurisdiction regarding the type of nudity permitted; for instance, Baltimore City allows nipplage, but not Baltimore County.
And some jurisdictions don't allow women to enter as patrons, period.
Yeah what is allowed varies greatly just by the jurisdiction as Seedy says.
San Diego if they served Alcohol was just topless club. Here in Alaska anything goes. It's actually a ritual to go with crewmembers on shoots to ABC (http://www.akbushcompany.com/) while they are up here, both the guys and girls.
Quote from: stjaba on May 02, 2012, 02:18:29 PM
Quote from: The Larch on May 02, 2012, 01:50:31 PM
The mention in Caliga's AAR to roadside strip clubs with "college nights" decided me to create this thread, as it was something that had crossed my mind a couple of times.
So, my (admitedly incomplete) perception through anecdotes and the media is that strip/gentlemen clubs are way more accepted and/or legit in the States than anywhere else.
Are you sure about that? I spent a week in Marbella in the summer of 2009. I noticed at least one or two "Lap Dance Clubs" (I think is what they were called). They were in a nice touristy part of town and obviously catered to the British tourists. Anyways, the strip clubs actually looked nicer(at least from the outside) than the strip clubs in Florida.
Anyways, in the US, I think attitudes vary by region. In Florida, they are quite prevalent. Tampa is particularly well known for having a lot of strip clubs. There's a six foot rule in Tampa(i.e. can't get within six feet of a nude stripper) that is universally ignored.
I think the general attitude is that strips clubs are low class(from both a customer and employee standpoint), but obviously they are well patronized regardless, including by plenty of middle class and wealthy people. Also, obviously, there are a range of establishments from high end to low end. In the low end places it is not uncommon to be able to have sex in a back room. This is true for Asian massage parlors, spas, or lingerie modelling studios etc. also.
Well, I've rarely seen them over here, and the few ones that I saw were absolutely seedy places where you would most probably be beaten up by Russian mobsters or something like that. Never been to Marbella, though.
And I'm not even entering in Hooters style titty bars territory.
Actually Larchie another thing from personal observations, the cities I've lived in with larger Military presences (San Diego, Anchorage) they clubs were more accepted than Seattle or Philly. Just something I've noticed.
Quote from: The Larch on May 02, 2012, 01:50:31 PM
So, my (admitedly incomplete) perception through anecdotes and the media is that strip/gentlemen clubs are way more accepted and/or legit in the States than anywhere else.
Son, you need to come to Vancouver to see a real strip club.
Phoenix, AZ has some smokin' ass strip clubs, with girls that work the professional circuit. Gotta be up there with LA and Miami.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 02, 2012, 02:14:48 PMYou're right; for instance, in Ohio IIRC, they're juice bars. No alcohol permitted. But I'm not sure if that's a county-by-county thing, Monkey Anger can answer that.
Some ordinances vary from jurisdiction regarding the type of nudity permitted; for instance, Baltimore City allows nipplage, but not Baltimore County.
And some jurisdictions don't allow women to enter as patrons, period.
We have clubs that serve alcohol, allow women patrons and show live sex on the stage.
Quote from: The Larch on May 02, 2012, 02:13:32 PM
Quote from: katmai on May 02, 2012, 02:10:03 PM
Way more accepted?
Not really in my experience at least not in regards of the women who work there and how they are viewed.
But what about the patrons? Is it entertainment for lowlife scum or acceptable for middle class peeps?
I can walk a few blocks, enter a strip club and in about one hour from now (ie when the markets close) it will be filled with stock broker types.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 02, 2012, 02:27:37 PM
Phoenix, AZ has some smokin' ass strip clubs, with girls that work the professional circuit. Gotta be up there with LA and Miami.
Quote from: crazy canuck on May 02, 2012, 02:26:40 PM
Son, you need to come to Vancouver to see a real strip club.
It use be said Vancouver, Montreal, Tampa, Las Vegas were the best places for strip clubs.
LA is meh just because of the city ordances, or at least it use to be.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 02, 2012, 02:14:48 PM
but not Baltimore County.
Delaware was like that, but I still had buddies dragging me out to those establishments. IIRC, in Philly topless was okay. In West Virginia they allow the full monty. I have vague memories of places in Fayetteville, NC and Colorado Springs-- they were topless but bottoms had to stay on.
I never went to one in Ohio. The one local place east of town had to shut down as of Jan 1 of this year because the girls got caught too many times performing sex acts for money. I imagine their New Years Eve party was a blast, knowing they'd go out of business the next day :D
Quote from: Zanza on May 02, 2012, 02:29:15 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 02, 2012, 02:14:48 PMYou're right; for instance, in Ohio IIRC, they're juice bars. No alcohol permitted. But I'm not sure if that's a county-by-county thing, Monkey Anger can answer that.
Some ordinances vary from jurisdiction regarding the type of nudity permitted; for instance, Baltimore City allows nipplage, but not Baltimore County.
And some jurisdictions don't allow women to enter as patrons, period.
We have clubs that serve alcohol, allow women patrons and show live sex on the stage.
Yeah, Berlin and Amsterdam were way over the top.
edit: but what is the big deal with women patrons. Those have always been allowed here.
For whatever reason strip clubs are much more liberal in Canada than in the US (even though our alcohol rules are generally more strict). You can see so much you feel like a gynecologist at the end of the night. No touching is about the only rule.
How are they perceived? Well there is still definitely some stigma to it. You don't generally drop "oh I went to the peelers last night" in the middle of an office conversation. Not to say that there aren't some upscale strip clubs - there definitely are. and they are definitely some dives as well. Stock brokers might be going to the strip club, but they aren't telling their wives or girlfriends where they went drinking.
Back in university I would go from time to time. In fact there was about one year where me and my buddies went a lot. It was a fun atmosphere because we'd go and be loud and frankly not have to worry about trying to impress the women there. Haven't been to one in years though at this point.
Quote from: Zanza on May 02, 2012, 02:29:15 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 02, 2012, 02:14:48 PMYou're right; for instance, in Ohio IIRC, they're juice bars. No alcohol permitted. But I'm not sure if that's a county-by-county thing, Monkey Anger can answer that.
Some ordinances vary from jurisdiction regarding the type of nudity permitted; for instance, Baltimore City allows nipplage, but not Baltimore County.
And some jurisdictions don't allow women to enter as patrons, period.
We have clubs that serve alcohol, allow women patrons and show live sex on the stage.
St. Pauli?
The only club of that style that comes to my mind in Spain is one in Barcelona called Bagdad, and they also go for the full gamut. The place actually is somehow historic, as it has been operating since '75, I guess they opened as soon as Franco kicked the bucket.
For the curious: http://www.bagdad.com (http://www.bagdad.com) (Extremely NSFW)
Quote from: Barrister on May 02, 2012, 02:35:05 PM
Stock brokers might be going to the strip club, but they aren't telling their wives or girlfriends where they went drinking.
You dont know many stock brokers do you BB. There are some guys that eat their lunches there on a regular basis. Its not something they think is shameful in anyway.
And their wives and girlfriends are mainly of the trophy variety.
My wife never believes me when I say this, but I never really enjoyed strip clubs that much. Pretty much every time I've gone it was just to hang out with my friends.
Quote from: crazy canuck on May 02, 2012, 02:37:58 PM
Quote from: Barrister on May 02, 2012, 02:35:05 PM
Stock brokers might be going to the strip club, but they aren't telling their wives or girlfriends where they went drinking.
You dont know many stock brokers do you BB. There are some guys that eat their lunches there on a regular basis. Its not something they think is shameful in anyway.
And their wives and girlfriends are mainly of the trophy variety.
No, true. There are "some" guys who do go there routinely, and freely talk about it. But that attitude is not universal.
And I'm with derspeiss - I have nothing against strip clubs, and have had fun at them, but really only due to the company I went with.
Quote from: derspiess on May 02, 2012, 02:42:33 PM
My wife never believes me when I say this, but I never really enjoyed strip clubs that much. Pretty much every time I've gone it was just to hang out with my friends.
Age does that to a guy. ;)
Not sure I know what counts. I've been to bars where customers stripped and bars where dancers stripped but none of the places advertised themselves as strip clubs.
For the purposes of this I'll say no but that's because I have no interest.
Quote from: Barrister on May 02, 2012, 02:46:18 PM
No, true. There are "some" guys who do go there routinely, and freely talk about it. But that attitude is not universal.
Seriously? How many stock brokers are there in the Yukon or Edmonton for that matter.
Its a broker convention at the strip clubs here.
Quote from: The Larch on May 02, 2012, 02:37:21 PMSt. Pauli?
Yes, but I wouldn't be surprised if other big cities have such clubs as well, e.g. Cologne or Berlin. I have never looked for that kind of place though, so I can only guess. There are also "sex fairs" where they sell sex toys etc. and those might have live sex on the stage too.
Now that I think about it, I wonder if prostitution being legal or not has an influence on the number of strip clubs. As far as I can tell, there are more brothels here than strip clubs.
Quote from: crazy canuck on May 02, 2012, 02:48:41 PM
Quote from: Barrister on May 02, 2012, 02:46:18 PM
No, true. There are "some" guys who do go there routinely, and freely talk about it. But that attitude is not universal.
Seriously? How many stock brokers are there in the Yukon or Edmonton for that matter.
Its a broker convention at the strip clubs here.
Thinking more in terms of lawyers. I remember one guy in particular at Malthus' firm who was big into the strip club scene, everyone was sure his much younger wife was a former dancer. There were some guys like that.
Yukon had no strip club. But there was a big winter carnival for a week in February. For some guys the biggest part of that week was that a local bar imported some strippers.
Quote from: Zanza on May 02, 2012, 02:50:58 PM
Quote from: The Larch on May 02, 2012, 02:37:21 PMSt. Pauli?
Yes, but I wouldn't be surprised if other big cities have such clubs as well, e.g. Cologne or Berlin. I have never looked for that kind of place though, so I can only guess. There are also "sex fairs" where they sell sex toys etc. and those might have live sex on the stage too.
Now that I think about it, I wonder if prostitution being legal or not has an influence on the number of strip clubs. As far as I can tell, there are more brothels here than strip clubs.
It may. Here, brothels are illegal, but not strip clubs. So there are plenty of strip clubs, plus a number of discreet "massage parlours".
I've never understood the notion of hanging out with your buddies to look at nude women. To my mind, looking at nude women is more of a solitary and private pursuit. :D
Quote from: Zanza on May 02, 2012, 02:50:58 PM
Quote from: The Larch on May 02, 2012, 02:37:21 PMSt. Pauli?
Yes, but I wouldn't be surprised if other big cities have such clubs as well, e.g. Cologne or Berlin. I have never looked for that kind of place though, so I can only guess. There are also "sex fairs" where they sell sex toys etc. and those might have live sex on the stage too.
Now that I think about it, I wonder if prostitution being legal or not has an influence on the number of strip clubs. As far as I can tell, there are more brothels here than strip clubs.
Over here I think that all that sex energy is devoted to porn and prostitution rather than at stripping.
Quote from: Barrister on May 02, 2012, 02:53:32 PMIt may. Here, brothels are illegal, but not strip clubs. So there are plenty of strip clubs, plus a number of discreet "massage parlours".
Our brothels are obviously not particularly discrete.
MIGHT BE NSFW:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Pascha_K%C3%B6ln.jpg
The whole building is Germany's biggest brothel and the big poster was shown during the world cup and reads "The world visiting female friends" which is a play on the world cup slogan.
My impression going to a strip club's a far more common thing in the US/NA.
I live near a strip pub though, the unfortunately named 'Old Nag's Head', but I don't know anyone who would ever go.
I've been to a strip joint once. With Americans. Horrifying.
I've never gone, but yeah it's gotten less unusual. There are really nice clubs here from what I've heard. My wife wants to go try it out. I suspect the novelty would be over quickly.
I don't think there's much of a difference in the way it's viewed here compared to elsewhere in NA outside of the rural bible belt areas. Toronto is probably on par with Nevada, I'd guess. But obviously we have less restrictions. You can't smoke in there if they serve food, but that's for all restaurants. AFAIK you can get a lapdance from a fully nude dancer while being served whiskey at 6AM on a Sunday. As long as you don't light up.
Quote from: Sheilbh on May 02, 2012, 03:02:17 PM
I don't know anyone who would ever go.
You are almost as bad as the Yukon lawyer opining on the activities of stock brokers.
Quote from: Zanza on May 02, 2012, 02:29:15 PM
We have clubs that serve alcohol, allow women patrons and show live sex on the stage.
We have Drunk and Disorderly, illegal prostitution, and puritanical ethics.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 02, 2012, 03:06:43 PM
Quote from: Zanza on May 02, 2012, 02:29:15 PM
We have clubs that serve alcohol, allow women patrons and show live sex on the stage.
We have Drunk and Disorderly, illegal prostitution, and puritanical ethics.
GOD DAMN AMERICA!
Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 02, 2012, 03:06:43 PM
Quote from: Zanza on May 02, 2012, 02:29:15 PM
We have clubs that serve alcohol, allow women patrons and show live sex on the stage.
We have Drunk and Disorderly, illegal prostitution, and puritanical ethics.
Dont forget stand your ground. You have that to fall back on when all else fails.
Quote from: crazy canuck on May 02, 2012, 03:05:52 PM
You are almost as bad as the Yukon lawyer opining on the activities of stock brokers.
Most of my best friends are straight :lol:
Quote from: Sheilbh on May 02, 2012, 03:09:30 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on May 02, 2012, 03:05:52 PM
You are almost as bad as the Yukon lawyer opining on the activities of stock brokers.
Most of my best friends are straight :lol:
Dont spoil a good joke. :mad:
come to think of it, I dont remember seeing any strip clubs in London.
Quote from: Sheilbh on May 02, 2012, 03:09:30 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on May 02, 2012, 03:05:52 PM
You are almost as bad as the Yukon lawyer opining on the activities of stock brokers.
Most of my best friends are straight :lol:
I'm with Shelf, I couldn't imagine going to one, and I doubt any of my friends, other than theex-military and current bankers, would have 'actively' gone to one.
To me, it would seem like an incredibly tacky thing to do, after all us Brits aren't that good at any public portrayal of congress or sexualness.
Actually I've two friends who've been to strip clubs. One works in the city. The other was very drunk at his birthday and got taken to a strip club in Portsmouth (God help us) :(
He did get a good story out of it though.
Quote from: Malthus on May 02, 2012, 02:55:42 PM
I've never understood the notion of hanging out with your buddies to look at nude women. To my mind, looking at nude women is more of a solitary and private pursuit. :D
To me the sticking point is not being able to do anything with them once you're done looking. At the nude women, that is. Not your buddies.
When I was single, at least, I'd rather have taken my chances at a bar.
There's a distinct sub-section of game devs who enjoy going to strip joints with some frequency, at least here in Vancouver. At the last place I worked, there was a crew who'd go at least once a week, and often would end up there after a night on town.
Quote from: derspiess on May 02, 2012, 03:21:28 PM
Quote from: Malthus on May 02, 2012, 02:55:42 PM
I've never understood the notion of hanging out with your buddies to look at nude women. To my mind, looking at nude women is more of a solitary and private pursuit. :D
To me the sticking point is not being able to do anything with them once you're done looking. At the nude women, that is. Not your buddies.
Even if you could - what with "lap dancing" and the like - would you want to with your buddies watching? Seems kinda off-putting to me.
QuoteWhen I was single, at least, I'd rather have taken my chances at a bar.
Agreed.
Quote from: Malthus on May 02, 2012, 03:30:29 PM
Even if you could - what with "lap dancing" and the like - would you want to with your buddies watching? Seems kinda off-putting to me.
Because your buddies are getting their own lap dances, ya weirdo.
Quote from: Zanza on May 02, 2012, 02:50:58 PM
Quote from: The Larch on May 02, 2012, 02:37:21 PMSt. Pauli?
Yes, but I wouldn't be surprised if other big cities have such clubs as well, e.g. Cologne or Berlin. I have never looked for that kind of place though, so I can only guess. There are also "sex fairs" where they sell sex toys etc. and those might have live sex on the stage too.
Now that I think about it, I wonder if prostitution being legal or not has an influence on the number of strip clubs. As far as I can tell, there are more brothels here than strip clubs.
Sounds like Frankfurt (am Main) as well. With all the FKK/Eros centers etc. offer all over Germany, I can see why. Lots of US servicemen in the area as well though ;)
Quote from: mongers on May 02, 2012, 03:17:48 PM
To me, it would seem like an incredibly tacky thing to do, after all us Brits aren't that good at any public portrayal of congress or sexualness.
I can appreciate that; hell, even your porn sucks.
Quote from: Malthus on May 02, 2012, 03:30:29 PM
Quote from: derspiess on May 02, 2012, 03:21:28 PM
Quote from: Malthus on May 02, 2012, 02:55:42 PM
I've never understood the notion of hanging out with your buddies to look at nude women. To my mind, looking at nude women is more of a solitary and private pursuit. :D
To me the sticking point is not being able to do anything with them once you're done looking. At the nude women, that is. Not your buddies.
Even if you could - what with "lap dancing" and the like - would you want to with your buddies watching? Seems kinda off-putting to me.
QuoteWhen I was single, at least, I'd rather have taken my chances at a bar.
Agreed.
But that was the one nice thing about the strip club. You're NOT there to pick up women. Sometimes going to the bar with my buddies (who were about the same level of geeky as me - geeky, but not utterly repellent to women) everyone was trying to act too "cool". At the strip club you didn't give a shit.
Quote from: Barrister on May 02, 2012, 03:38:23 PM
But that was the one nice thing about the strip club. You're NOT there to pick up women. Sometimes going to the bar with my buddies (who were about the same level of geeky as me - geeky, but not utterly repellent to women) everyone was trying to act too "cool". At the strip club you didn't give a shit.
Yeah, but neither do they. There are very, very few examples in life where you spend more money for less of a return to show for it than a strip club.
Only two words matter in a strip club, or you're just wasting your time: Out. Call.
When I was single I preferred going to bars and night clubs with my friends. After I got married I much preferred going for drinks with my single friends at the strip clubs.
Now that we are all married we just go to eachothers houses and drink wine you couldnt get at either bars or strip clubs. :showoff:
Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 02, 2012, 02:14:48 PM
Quote from: Josephus on May 02, 2012, 01:59:00 PM
I believe in some States you can't mix alcohol with full nudity. So typically strippers were g-strings so the patrons can drink. But otherwise there's nothing illegitimate about them, I don't think.
You're right; for instance, in Ohio IIRC, they're juice bars. No alcohol permitted. But I'm not sure if that's a county-by-county thing, Monkey Anger can answer that.
Some ordinances vary from jurisdiction regarding the type of nudity permitted; for instance, Baltimore City allows nipplage, but not Baltimore County.
And some jurisdictions don't allow women to enter as patrons, period.
Correct. Booze = Boobies only.
Also, many towns here will fight tooth and nail to make sure adult businesses stay the fuck out.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 02, 2012, 03:41:03 PM
Quote from: Barrister on May 02, 2012, 03:38:23 PM
But that was the one nice thing about the strip club. You're NOT there to pick up women. Sometimes going to the bar with my buddies (who were about the same level of geeky as me - geeky, but not utterly repellent to women) everyone was trying to act too "cool". At the strip club you didn't give a shit.
Yeah, but neither do they. There are very, very few examples in life where you spend more money for less of a return to show for it than a strip club.
Only two words matter in a strip club, or you're just wasting your time: Out. Call.
I dunno (and remember these are my memories from one particular year when I did go to strip clubs with frequency).
Instead of the usual perverts and creeps who just sit there and stare the peelers seemed to appreciate when a nunch of college students would show up and inject some life into things, even without spending a lot of money.
Quote from: Barrister on May 02, 2012, 03:51:28 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 02, 2012, 03:41:03 PM
Quote from: Barrister on May 02, 2012, 03:38:23 PM
But that was the one nice thing about the strip club. You're NOT there to pick up women. Sometimes going to the bar with my buddies (who were about the same level of geeky as me - geeky, but not utterly repellent to women) everyone was trying to act too "cool". At the strip club you didn't give a shit.
Yeah, but neither do they. There are very, very few examples in life where you spend more money for less of a return to show for it than a strip club.
Only two words matter in a strip club, or you're just wasting your time: Out. Call.
I dunno (and remember these are my memories from one particular year when I did go to strip clubs with frequency).
Instead of the usual perverts and creeps who just sit there and stare the peelers seemed to appreciate when a nunch of college students would show up and inject some life into things, even without spending a lot of money.
You know it's all an act ? :unsure:
Quote from: Ed Anger on May 02, 2012, 03:50:23 PM
Correct. Booze = Boobies only.
The problem with the US summarized as only Ed Anger can.
Quote from: mongers on May 02, 2012, 03:53:44 PM
You know it's all an act ? :unsure:
And that matter because?
When you enjoy a movie do you say to yourself, "But its all just an act"?
Of course its an act. That is the whole point BB is making.
Quote from: crazy canuck on May 02, 2012, 03:54:04 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on May 02, 2012, 03:50:23 PM
Correct. Booze = Boobies only.
The problem with the US summarized as only Ed Anger can.
that is Ohio. I have no idea what the 49 other states and those territories are doing.
Quote from: Ed Anger on May 02, 2012, 03:55:36 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on May 02, 2012, 03:54:04 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on May 02, 2012, 03:50:23 PM
Correct. Booze = Boobies only.
The problem with the US summarized as only Ed Anger can.
that is Ohio. I have no idea what the 49 other states and those territories are doing.
The rest of the US allows Ohio, in all its backwardness, to continue to exist. That is bad enough.
:boring:
Quote from: Barrister on May 02, 2012, 03:51:28 PM
Instead of the usual perverts and creeps who just sit there and stare the peelers seemed to appreciate when a nunch of college students would show up and inject some life into things, even without spending a lot of money.
Which is why all the girls hit the kiddies; they know they can suck you dry, and don't have to worry about pervy/creepy shit because they know you're too timid to ask them for shit.
You're a sucker mark, and don't even realize it.
I remember my first stipper, she was the chubby one, zeroed in on the "gosh darn'it it's my first trip to the titty bar" look in my eyes, jumped on my lap, told me she was going to give me a lap dance and then dragged me off to the dimly lit alcove with the comfortable chair.
At that point I realized why hott women in their 30s complain about there not being any good men left, it's because the chubby ones realizing they had to act picked the good men in their 20s dragged them off to a church and married them.
After handing over the AU$ 50 I sat there stunned wondering what happened. A few dances later I realized that this was just evil horror, getting me all horny and then leaving me hanging? It's just cruel!
Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 02, 2012, 04:03:56 PM
Quote from: Barrister on May 02, 2012, 03:51:28 PM
Instead of the usual perverts and creeps who just sit there and stare the peelers seemed to appreciate when a nunch of college students would show up and inject some life into things, even without spending a lot of money.
Which is why all the girls hit the kiddies; they know they can suck you dry, and don't have to worry about pervy/creepy shit because they know you're too timid to ask them for shit.
You're a sucker mark, and don't even realize it.
Thanks for elaborating on my point, with some further concrete, real world experience.
I'd say the vast majority of women are in this line of work solely for the much higher money/effort ratio they can get compared to the other work they're qualified to do.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 02, 2012, 04:03:56 PM
Quote from: Barrister on May 02, 2012, 03:51:28 PM
Instead of the usual perverts and creeps who just sit there and stare the peelers seemed to appreciate when a nunch of college students would show up and inject some life into things, even without spending a lot of money.
Which is why all the girls hit the kiddies; they know they can suck you dry, and don't have to worry about pervy/creepy shit because they know you're too timid to ask them for shit.
You're a sucker mark, and don't even realize it.
How could we be suckers - we didn't have any money. I mean we'd get loaded before going out so we didn't have to buy the over-priced drinks.
I mean I guess we threw the odd loonie at them, but we sure weren't paying for lap dances and what not.
Quote from: crazy canuck on May 02, 2012, 02:31:42 PM
but what is the big deal with women patrons. Those have always been allowed here.
It's a strip club! You can't have women there!
Quote from: Sheilbh on May 02, 2012, 03:19:59 PM
Actually I've two friends who've been to strip clubs. One works in the city. The other was very drunk at his birthday and got taken to a strip club in Portsmouth (God help us) :(
He did get a good story out of it though.
A strip club in Portsmouth :lol: , I believe Dante put that somewhere in the 6th circle of hell, certainly in the City of Dis :D
Quote from: mongers on May 02, 2012, 04:08:59 PM
I'd say the vast majority of all the women are in this line of work solely for the much higher money/effort ratio they can get compared to the other work they're qualified to do.
fyp - they sure are not there for the fun of it.
But, again, how does that change anything. Who walks into a place like that and thinks the girls are genuinely interested in them? Who doesnt know the girls are there to make money? To be a mark, as CdM put it, one would have to be oblvious to these facts.
I just had visions of a Geordie strip club. :cry:
Ages ago KAP took me (and certain others) to the "largest gentlemans club in the world" in Las Vegas. I have honestly never been so limp and unmoved, it was about as sexy as Smithfield market but without the utility.
OTOH, some time later I was on a pub-crawl in Peru Illinois with CCR and a collection of sundry reprobates. At one of the bars a couple of women came in and did a half-assed strip for our delectation. They were not very good, or apparently not very good, but the whole thing was rather pleasant.......it was like a couple of the girls next door were short of a few bucks and decided to entertain us guys to get the shortfall.
Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on May 02, 2012, 04:30:35 PM
Ages ago KAP took me (and certain others) to the "largest gentlemans club in the world" in Las Vegas. I have honestly never been so limp and unmoved, it was about as sexy as Smithfield market but without the utility.
OTOH, some time later I was on a pub-crawl in Peru Illinois with CCR and a collection of sundry reprobates. At one of the bars a couple of women came in and did a half-assed strip for our delectation. They were not very good, or apparently not very good, but the whole thing was rather pleasant.......it was like a couple of the girls next door were short of a few bucks and decided to entertain us guys to get the shortfall.
Thanks a lot tricky :(
Quote from: Barrister on May 02, 2012, 04:10:27 PM
I mean I guess we threw the odd loonie at them, but we sure weren't paying for lap dances and what not.
You gave coins to the strippers? That just seems odd because in the US the custom is give them dollar bills. Seems kind of awkward to do it any other way.
Quote from: stjaba on May 02, 2012, 04:31:59 PM
Quote from: Barrister on May 02, 2012, 04:10:27 PM
I mean I guess we threw the odd loonie at them, but we sure weren't paying for lap dances and what not.
You gave coins to the strippers? That just seems odd because in the US the custom is give them dollar bills. Seems kind of awkward to do it any other way.
They have a built in coin slot.
I've dated three strippers in last ...ugh 19 years now.
It's just a job, they don't go to work looking to meet guys at all.
Oh and never met the women i dated in club, knew them through friends or met outside of work.
Quote from: katmai on May 02, 2012, 04:31:50 PM
Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on May 02, 2012, 04:30:35 PM
Ages ago KAP took me (and certain others) to the "largest gentlemans club in the world" in Las Vegas. I have honestly never been so limp and unmoved, it was about as sexy as Smithfield market but without the utility.
OTOH, some time later I was on a pub-crawl in Peru Illinois with CCR and a collection of sundry reprobates. At one of the bars a couple of women came in and did a half-assed strip for our delectation. They were not very good, or apparently not very good, but the whole thing was rather pleasant.......it was like a couple of the girls next door were short of a few bucks and decided to entertain us guys to get the shortfall.
Thanks a lot tricky :(
hmmm......ok..........a fine collection of sundry reprobates :P
Quote from: katmai on May 02, 2012, 04:34:22 PM
I've dated three strippers in last ...ugh 19 years now.
It's just a job, they don't go to work looking to meet guys at all.
Oh and never met the women i dated in club, knew them through friends or met outside of work.
Wait, you dated strippers?
You are a braver man than me.
He only ever drinks orange juice before sex of course :cool:
Strippers are soiled doves. :goodboy:
Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 02, 2012, 04:03:56 PM
Which is why all the girls hit the kiddies; they know they can suck you dry, and don't have to worry about pervy/creepy shit because they know you're too timid to ask them for shit.
You're a sucker mark, and don't even realize it.
I was 22 when I went to the place in Colorado Springs. A couple of the girls acted really odd when I showed a lack of interest in lap dances or buying them drinks. I wasn't about to blow my measly ROTC cadet pay for that summer on them. One of them wouldn't stop talking to me & she ended up buying me a drink :D
Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on May 02, 2012, 04:39:26 PM
He only ever drinks orange juice before sex of course :cool:
It's either that or eat asparagus. Maybe one of our languish gheys can tell us?
Quote from: Ed Anger on May 02, 2012, 04:38:08 PM
Quote from: katmai on May 02, 2012, 04:34:22 PM
I've dated three strippers in last ...ugh 19 years now.
It's just a job, they don't go to work looking to meet guys at all.
Oh and never met the women i dated in club, knew them through friends or met outside of work.
Wait, you dated strippers?
You are a braver man than me.
Oh you've done many a thing us mere mortal men dream of el jefe
:P
First one was when i was 19 and she was 27... good times.
Quote from: Ed Anger on May 02, 2012, 04:38:08 PM
Quote from: katmai on May 02, 2012, 04:34:22 PM
I've dated three strippers in last ...ugh 19 years now.
It's just a job, they don't go to work looking to meet guys at all.
Oh and never met the women i dated in club, knew them through friends or met outside of work.
Wait, you dated strippers?
You are a braver man than me.
When I got to be a pretend-2nd Lieutenant I had to have a talk with one of the soldiers in my platoon who was all depressed that his stripper-wife left him. He kept asking why crap like this has to happen to him & I kept telling him, "Dude, because you MARRIED A STRIPPER. Use better judgment next time."
Needless to say, the brightest bulbs in the Army don't tend to end up in the motor pool.
There's a couple in my area. Never went. I have a feeling that doesn't surprise any of you.
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on May 02, 2012, 03:05:21 PM
I've never gone, but yeah it's gotten less unusual. There are really nice clubs here from what I've heard. My wife wants to go try it out. I suspect the novelty would be over quickly.
If I pass back through that way in the next couple of months, we should totally go. :P
(note: I have never been to one either)
Quote from: Tonitrus on May 02, 2012, 04:56:39 PM
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on May 02, 2012, 03:05:21 PM
I've never gone, but yeah it's gotten less unusual. There are really nice clubs here from what I've heard. My wife wants to go try it out. I suspect the novelty would be over quickly.
If I pass back through that way in the next couple of months, we should totally go. :P
(note: I have never been to one either)
Do it and live blog your experience!!!!
I should go back to Ft. Knox and stop in every one of those 'Thoroughbred' strip clubs you pass getting there. Then again, they ruined Ft. Knox. HUMAN RESOURCES? WHERE ARE THE TANKS?
Quote from: katmai on May 02, 2012, 03:31:48 PM
Quote from: Malthus on May 02, 2012, 03:30:29 PM
Even if you could - what with "lap dancing" and the like - would you want to with your buddies watching? Seems kinda off-putting to me.
Because your buddies are getting their own lap dances, ya weirdo.
Then why exactly are you bothering to go with your buddies?
"Let's meet up and have painfully unrewarding pseudo-sex while we carefully ignore each other" - "sounds like a plan!"
I'd guess part of the disconnect between those that don't get 'it' and those who do, is in large part about accepting a higher level of commercialization of sex.
Back in my Fort Stewart days I remember there being a couple of really nasty strip joints in Hinesville, GA. Seedy places that stunk like a grotesque mix of cheese and liquor. My god, I'll never be able to forget that stench. :bleeding:
Quote from: FunkMonk on May 02, 2012, 05:29:34 PM
stunk like a grotesque mix of cheese and liquor.
Sounds like Waffle House at 3am.
Quote from: Ed Anger on May 02, 2012, 05:31:04 PM
Sounds like Waffle House at 3am.
:bleeding: :bleeding: :bleeding:
Quote from: Malthus on May 02, 2012, 05:10:30 PM
Quote from: katmai on May 02, 2012, 03:31:48 PM
Quote from: Malthus on May 02, 2012, 03:30:29 PM
Even if you could - what with "lap dancing" and the like - would you want to with your buddies watching? Seems kinda off-putting to me.
Because your buddies are getting their own lap dances, ya weirdo.
Then why exactly are you bothering to go with your buddies?
"Let's meet up and have painfully unrewarding pseudo-sex while we carefully ignore each other" - "sounds like a plan!"
Uh Mal, most places if you want a lapdance they take you to a different room or area then where you are sitting with your buddies watching the girls on stage.
Quote from: FunkMonk on May 02, 2012, 05:33:22 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on May 02, 2012, 05:31:04 PM
Sounds like Waffle House at 3am.
:bleeding: :bleeding: :bleeding:
Or even worse, a Denny's near a hospital at 4am. A mix of drunks, worried to death family members and the psychotics that can't sleep mixed with the faint scent of bad food and body odor.
There used to be a strip club in my neighbourhood. It was called - and I kid you not - URANUS.
I went there once, for a friend's stag. He'd picked it out because they had karaoke downstairs and he really liked karaoke. One thing I didn't get about the joint was that they had TVs everywhere, like a sports bar. So they had strippers going on, while you'd see ads for Budweiser or the NFL recap or whatever on the screens.
There was one of the servers who I could swear I knew from somewhere... took me a while to place her, but eventually I realized she'd used to be the cutest cashier at the place I used to get my groceries some years back. I guess she was making more money slinging drinks at a low rent strip club than ringing up vegetables.
The karaoke joint was pretty sketchy too. Full of drunk Asian kids into the gang aesthetic... but it kind of made sense since the place was run by Asian gangsters.
... anyways the area has gentrified. The underage hookers have moved on, you don't really find syringes around anymore and Uranus is, like so many other places, a Starbucks now.
Quote from: katmai on May 02, 2012, 05:33:34 PM
Uh Mal, most places if you want a lapdance they take you to a different room or area then where you are sitting with your buddies watching the girls on stage.
That makes it even less like a social setting. :hmm:
The whole thing makes little sense. I can understand ogling naked women, but why would you want to ogle naked women in concert with your buddies? Even if occasionally enlivened by leaving 'em to grind on one of those women?
There is a strip club in Toronto called "House of Lancaster". It even has a coat of arms on it with the red Lancasterian rose! Classy! :lol:
I wonder what odd bit of historical nerdom created that. And whether anyone has thought to create a rival "House of York" strip club nearby.
Quote from: Malthus on May 02, 2012, 05:47:05 PM
There is a strip club in Toronto called "House of Lancaster". It even has a coat of arms on it with the red Lancasterian rose! Classy! :lol:
I wonder what odd bit of historical nerdom created that. And whether anyone has thought to create a rival "House of York" strip club nearby.
To be blunt red roses is not something I wish to have associated with my establishment if I were anything but the most specialized of all kinds of specialized strip clubs.
I remember in San Antonio, the gate by our dorms on the base had a strip club right across the street. It was apparently popular with all the foreign military students there (Lackland hosts the school where we teach English to military officers from other countries...mostly middle eastern at the time)...even if the outside was a gravel parking lot...
http://g.co/maps/trx9m
I like how the sign is badly censored. :D
Quote from: Viking on May 02, 2012, 05:48:48 PMTo be blunt red roses is not something I wish to have associated with my establishment if I were anything but the most specialized of all kinds of specialized strip clubs.
You are not being blunt at all.
If you don't want social democrats around, you should just say so.
Quote from: Jacob on May 02, 2012, 05:49:54 PM
Quote from: Viking on May 02, 2012, 05:48:48 PMTo be blunt red roses is not something I wish to have associated with my establishment if I were anything but the most specialized of all kinds of specialized strip clubs.
You are not being blunt at all.
If you don't want social democrats around, you should just say so.
meh, you can get hippy feminazis at all times of the month.
Quote from: Malthus on May 02, 2012, 05:47:05 PM
There is a strip club in Toronto called "House of Lancaster". It even has a coat of arms on it with the red Lancasterian rose! Classy! :lol:
I wonder what odd bit of historical nerdom created that. And whether anyone has thought to create a rival "House of York" strip club nearby.
Nude jousting!
Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on May 02, 2012, 04:30:35 PM
OTOH, some time later I was on a pub-crawl in Peru Illinois with CCR and a collection of sundry reprobates.
Fucking Limey. We won the goddamn war. :mad:
Quote from: mongers on May 02, 2012, 05:22:59 PM
I'd guess part of the disconnect between those that don't get 'it' and those who do, is in large part about accepting a higher level of commercialization of sex.
Commercialization is fine and dandy. It should still be private.
Quote from: Ed Anger on May 02, 2012, 04:59:58 PM
I should go back to Ft. Knox and stop in every one of those 'Thoroughbred' strip clubs you pass getting there.
:cool:
Quote
Then again, they ruined Ft. Knox. HUMAN RESOURCES? WHERE ARE THE TANKS?
:yes: :mad:
My favorite strip club sign is at a place in Jersey right across the Delaware River from Philadelphia... it's literally right there as you cross the bridge, in gigantic red letters:
NUDE GIRLS SEX SHOW
Every time we crossed that bridge when I was a kid my dad would make a joke about needing to stop in, and my mom would slap him. Every single freaking time, like they were animatronic or something.
America, Fuck Yeah.
QuoteRight:
Executive Car Leasing
3000 Admiral Wilson Boulevard (Camden, NJ)
A Rambler dealership in the mid-1960s, In the late 1970s, this building was remodeled, the windows covered over, and the building painted white. 3000 Admiral Wilson Blvd was the home of the notorious "Live Nude Girl Sex Show" until 2000, when all of the buildings on the south side of the highway were razed.
GOD DAMN AMERICA! :(
That was the actual name of the establishment? :lol:
I dunno, but here's a later iteration of their sign (my memories are from the 1980s):
http://www.dvrbs.com/camden-streets/AWB/1300awb-1990s-001.jpg (http://www.dvrbs.com/camden-streets/AWB/1300awb-1990s-001.jpg) (maybe NSFW)
I remember thinking Jersey was a 'cooler' state because there were titty bar billboards right on the highway.
Ah, ok, I think I found it... looks like it was actually called 'Fantasy' and since its old building was torn down, they moved to a new location further down the Black Horse Pike:
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=710+N+Black+Horse+Pike,+Mount+Ephraim,+New+Jersey+08059&hl=en&ll=39.888006,-75.088849&spn=0.00088,0.001742&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=58.598104,114.169922&t=h&hnear=710+N+Black+Horse+Pike,+Mt+Ephraim,+New+Jersey+08059&z=20&layer=c&cbll=39.888006,-75.088849&panoid=DXdp2mAq8fXIFyLQfrPERg&cbp=12,75.07,,0,12.19 (http://maps.google.com/maps?q=710+N+Black+Horse+Pike,+Mount+Ephraim,+New+Jersey+08059&hl=en&ll=39.888006,-75.088849&spn=0.00088,0.001742&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=58.598104,114.169922&t=h&hnear=710+N+Black+Horse+Pike,+Mt+Ephraim,+New+Jersey+08059&z=20&layer=c&cbll=39.888006,-75.088849&panoid=DXdp2mAq8fXIFyLQfrPERg&cbp=12,75.07,,0,12.19)
Quote from: mongers on May 02, 2012, 03:17:48 PM
I'm with Shelf, I couldn't imagine going to one, and I doubt any of my friends, other than theex-military and current bankers, would have 'actively' gone to one.
To me, it would seem like an incredibly tacky thing to do, after all us Brits aren't that good at any public portrayal of congress or sexualness.
As expected of Mongers :bowler:
It goes without saying, but I'd never go myself. The defiled world at its most egregious.
Of course a thread on titty bars would attract Caliga spam posts like Martinus to a rack of sandals.
:P
You'll have to forgive me as I'm not allowed to go anymore. :(
Quote from: Lettow77 on May 02, 2012, 07:41:59 PM
Quote from: mongers on May 02, 2012, 03:17:48 PM
I'm with Shelf, I couldn't imagine going to one, and I doubt any of my friends, other than theex-military and current bankers, would have 'actively' gone to one.
To me, it would seem like an incredibly tacky thing to do, after all us Brits aren't that good at any public portrayal of congress or sexualness.
As expected of Mongers :bowler:
It goes without saying, but I'd never go myself. The defiled world at its most egregious.
If havent been to a quality Strip Club, GO. Quit acting like a bunch of fairies.
Quote from: 11B4V on May 02, 2012, 09:59:19 PM
If havent been to a quality Strip Club, GO. Quit acting like a bunch of fairies.
But Malthus feels conflicted when he sees naked women when he is with guys.
Yeah, nothing says "straight", like hanging out with a bunch of guys with hard ons.
Quote from: Razgovory on May 02, 2012, 10:02:16 PM
Yeah, nothing says "straight", like hanging out with a bunch of guys with hard ons.
:rolleyes: Then stay in the basement of your mom's house. :moon:
Quote from: crazy canuck on May 02, 2012, 10:02:01 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on May 02, 2012, 09:59:19 PM
If havent been to a quality Strip Club, GO. Quit acting like a bunch of fairies.
But Malthus feels conflicted when he sees naked women when he is with guys.
Fucking weirdo.
Quote from: katmai on May 02, 2012, 10:04:17 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on May 02, 2012, 10:02:01 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on May 02, 2012, 09:59:19 PM
If havent been to a quality Strip Club, GO. Quit acting like a bunch of fairies.
But Malthus feels conflicted when he sees naked women when he is with guys.
Fucking weirdo.
Hey, speaking of weirdos, which one's the poster with the Peter North fetish? I forget.
Quote from: Razgovory on May 02, 2012, 10:02:16 PM
Yeah, nothing says "straight", like hanging out with a bunch of guys with hard ons.
Generally I am not looking at my friends' hardons and look at the girls. But whatever makes you happy.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 02, 2012, 10:18:13 PM
Hey, speaking of weirdos, which one's the poster with the Peter North fetish? I forget.
Kaw-liga
Quote from: Caliga on May 02, 2012, 08:11:15 PM
You'll have to forgive me as I'm not allowed to go anymore. :(
Bachelor Parties are ok for my but all my friends are married now....which is kind of scary now that I think about it.
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on May 02, 2012, 10:21:41 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 02, 2012, 10:18:13 PM
Hey, speaking of weirdos, which one's the poster with the Peter North fetish? I forget.
Kaw-liga
Fucking weirdo.
@Cdm I just think he's an excellent actor. :)
Quote from: Valmy on May 02, 2012, 10:21:00 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on May 02, 2012, 10:02:16 PM
Yeah, nothing says "straight", like hanging out with a bunch of guys with hard ons.
Generally I am not looking at my friends' hardons and look at the girls. But whatever makes you happy.
Hey, I'm not judging. If you and friends want to pay to get blue balled and then go all lettow in the bathroom to blow off the excess steam, that's fine. Like I said, I won't judge. Much.
Stop projecting your fantasies on the rest of us Raz.
In Utah, strippers strip down to beach acceptable attire.
Quote from: Jaron on May 02, 2012, 10:48:38 PM
In Utah, strippers strip down to beach acceptable attire.
Lame
It's a stagnating industy in Quebec, most all of them controlled by organized crime anyway, especially biker MC clubs.
We have lap dances with full contact here, but the fact that lap dances have been increased to 20$ per song has pushed away a lot of potential customers the last few years. Escorts are now cheaper, for more bang for the buck.
Quote from: Ed Anger on May 02, 2012, 04:24:02 PM
I just had visions of a Geordie strip club. :cry:
I think that's called the cloakroom.
I think peep shows are more frequent in Germany/Austria than strip joints. Also, certainly more brothels/"studios" than strip clubs in red light districts.
Haven't been to a strip club per se but I've seen burlesque strip acts, which are to some extent the same but leave you with more money and dignity./
Dignity...bah, overrated in a strip club.
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on May 02, 2012, 05:55:22 PM
Quote from: Malthus on May 02, 2012, 05:47:05 PM
There is a strip club in Toronto called "House of Lancaster". It even has a coat of arms on it with the red Lancasterian rose! Classy! :lol:
I wonder what odd bit of historical nerdom created that. And whether anyone has thought to create a rival "House of York" strip club nearby.
Nude jousting!
Jousting without armour would be very, very dangerous.
Sort of comparable to barebacking strippers, when you think of it. :hmm:
Quote from: Razgovory on May 02, 2012, 10:02:16 PM
Yeah, nothing says "straight", like hanging out with a bunch of guys with hard ons.
:lol:
Raz gets in a zinger. :punk:
Quote from: Razgovory on May 02, 2012, 10:25:49 PM
Hey, I'm not judging. If you and friends want to pay to get blue balled and then go all lettow in the bathroom to blow off the excess steam, that's fine. Like I said, I won't judge. Much.
Ok you are trying way too hard here.
No.
I've came close. Friends have gone in and I stayed at the door.
It just doesn't appeal to me. Paying to be teased pretty much. Its like going to a club and guarantied striking out. And its freaking expensive and until recently money has always been in very short supply for me.
No moral objections. Just seems a bit crap.
Quote from: Caliga on May 02, 2012, 07:38:06 PM
I remember thinking Jersey was a 'cooler' state because there were titty bar billboards right on the highway.
Meanwhile, going the other way, there's Club Risque on the Schuylkill, right after you go over the Walt Whitman Bridge. :contract:
Quote from: Tyr on May 03, 2012, 11:36:21 PM
Its like going to a club and guarantied striking out.
Why do some guys here think they are going with the expectation of picking someone up?
I've been to two strip clubs. A seedier one and a high class one. didn't really like either experience. Although at the seedier one i had the very awkward experience of seeing a friends sister who i saw grow up. i had to leave lol
Quote from: HVC on May 04, 2012, 08:31:49 AM
I've been to two strip clubs. A seedier one and a high class one. didn't really like either experience. Although at the seedier one i had the very awkward experience of seeing a friends sister who i saw grow up. i had to leave lol
Why, was your friend with you?
Quote from: HVC on May 04, 2012, 08:31:49 AM
seeing a friends sister who i saw grow up.
You were there a long time then.
Quote from: HVC on May 04, 2012, 08:31:49 AM
I've been to two strip clubs. A seedier one and a high class one. didn't really like either experience.
I loved it. I was rather surprised how much I did. I had a fabulous time each time but sort of glad I am too poor and only did it during bachelor parties, I can see how addictive/expensive it could be so I am pretty glad I only went to strip clubs those couple times.
Quote from: The Larch on May 02, 2012, 01:50:31 PM
The mention in Caliga's AAR to roadside strip clubs with "college nights" decided me to create this thread, as it was something that had crossed my mind a couple of times.
So, my (admitedly incomplete) perception through anecdotes and the media is that strip/gentlemen clubs are way more accepted and/or legit in the States than anywhere else. Over here they're invariably seedy, but in the US you have the "co-ed paying her way through college" trope, for instance, and they're featured in mainstream media with normal middle-class people attending.
Is this perception correct? How frequented are they by forum members?
There used to be a strip club in my home town. It has since been destroyed by fire and the city voted a new rule to forbid this type of commerce.
Anyway, back in the time... being a small city, and this being a front for the Hell's Angels, the local club didn't exactly have the best girls of Quebec. Mostly 40 or 50 years old women looking like 70, totally coked up, often so thin that you could almost see through them.
It used to be better when I was younger, but in the later years, that place wasn't really good. Not that I'd go that often, but it was the best place to play pool in town.
Quebec city has some nice strip clubs though. Appaently the best one is on the south shore in St-Romuald. Never been there though. It's been ages since I've been to a strip club.
Quote from: crazy canuck on May 04, 2012, 08:29:17 AM
Quote from: Tyr on May 03, 2012, 11:36:21 PM
Its like going to a club and guarantied striking out.
Why do some guys here think they are going with the expectation of picking someone up?
if your pockets are deep enough, it's a very high probability that you can pick someone up.
I find it hard to believe that 20 folks havent been. Get a good crew together and go have fun.
Quote from: HVC on May 04, 2012, 08:31:49 AM
I've been to two strip clubs. A seedier one and a high class one. didn't really like either experience. Although at the seedier one i had the very awkward experience of seeing a friends sister who i saw grow up. i had to leave lol
Was she decent looking?
I have seen beer bottles sucked up off the floor, I have seen ping pong balls shot out, I have seen smoke rings come out, I have even seen some pretty girls that actually knew how to dance. :)
Quote from: lustindarkness on May 04, 2012, 12:03:25 PM
I have seen beer bottles sucked up off the floor, I have seen ping pong balls shot out, I have seen smoke rings come out, I have even seen some pretty girls that actually knew how to dance. :)
I'm imagining that being said by Rutger Hauer towards the end of
Bladerunner :cool:
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on May 04, 2012, 08:35:22 AM
Quote from: HVC on May 04, 2012, 08:31:49 AM
I've been to two strip clubs. A seedier one and a high class one. didn't really like either experience. Although at the seedier one i had the very awkward experience of seeing a friends sister who i saw grow up. i had to leave lol
Why, was your friend with you?
Hah, no. though that would have been interesting too. It was just weird. Seeing this girl i knew most of her life up on stage being oogled
Quote from: 11B4V on May 04, 2012, 11:27:36 AM
Quote from: HVC on May 04, 2012, 08:31:49 AM
I've been to two strip clubs. A seedier one and a high class one. didn't really like either experience. Although at the seedier one i had the very awkward experience of seeing a friends sister who i saw grow up. i had to leave lol
Was she decent looking?
Beautiful girl. and smart enough not to be be a dancer. But she fucked up her life, and it started there.
Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on May 04, 2012, 12:07:22 PM
Quote from: lustindarkness on May 04, 2012, 12:03:25 PM
I have seen beer bottles sucked up off the floor, I have seen ping pong balls shot out, I have seen smoke rings come out, I have even seen some pretty girls that actually knew how to dance. :)
I'm imagining that being said by Rutger Hauer towards the end of Bladerunner :cool:
:lol:
The best laugh I've had all day. :D
Now imagine Morgan freeman saying it. It's a fun game :P
Quote from: The Larch on May 02, 2012, 02:13:32 PM
But what about the patrons? Is it entertainment for lowlife scum or acceptable for middle class peeps?
In Quebec, it's both.
You do have guys who would spend their days and/or nights there, along with other more casual clients.
There are also high end places for "gentleman" and thrash stuff for low life prostitutes with no teeth who apparently give the best blowjobs :ph34r:
Quote from: crazy canuck on May 02, 2012, 02:26:40 PM
Quote from: The Larch on May 02, 2012, 01:50:31 PM
So, my (admitedly incomplete) perception through anecdotes and the media is that strip/gentlemen clubs are way more accepted and/or legit in the States than anywhere else.
Son, you need to come to Vancouver to see a real strip club.
I disagree. Every hockey players knows it's either Montreal (island) or Quebec city. It's actually the reason why the Canadiens are better at home than on the road, the other teams' players spend their night at the strip clubs when they visit :P
Quote from: crazy canuck on May 02, 2012, 02:31:42 PM
edit: but what is the big deal with women patrons. Those have always been allowed here.
are you sure about that? Wasn't there a time - way before I was born-, that there were "taverns" forbidden to women? There used to be a theater show about such a tavern from the old time, very popular in Quebec (Broue). I figured that the very early strip clubs were for men only. Come to think of it, I am unsure if there was a difference between a strip club and a brothel in the 50s/60s :unsure:
Quote from: viper37 on May 04, 2012, 01:17:24 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on May 02, 2012, 02:31:42 PM
edit: but what is the big deal with women patrons. Those have always been allowed here.
are you sure about that? Wasn't there a time - way before I was born-, that there were "taverns" forbidden to women? There used to be a theater show about such a tavern from the old time, very popular in Quebec (Broue). I figured that the very early strip clubs were for men only. Come to think of it, I am unsure if there was a difference between a strip club and a brothel in the 50s/60s :unsure:
Yeah, back in the day I don't think women were allowed into any kind of bar.
Quote from: Barrister on May 02, 2012, 02:35:05 PM
For whatever reason strip clubs are much more liberal in Canada than in the US (even though our alcohol rules are generally more strict).
Not for Quebec. You can easily get alcohol while under 18 in Quebec. You can easily sneak into any kind of clubs too without being asked for ID. Well, it used to be that way.
Anyway, in Ontario, no way I would enter without being 19. And in the US, just forget about drinking while underage, even with your parents. Never seen such an awkard attitude with alcohol. It's kinda prehistorical to be so crazy about it.
QuoteNo touching is about the only rule.
aren't 10$ dances (contact dance) allowed outside of Quebec?
Quote
You don't generally drop "oh I went to the peelers last night" in the middle of an office conversation.
Yet, people will often go as part of post work activities.
I went once as part of a bachelor party.
In the end I had a lot of fun, but it was mostly from watching the reactions of my extremely drunk mates (not like I was in a better condition). I'm guessing that novelty effect would not last long, though, and while the girls were gorgeous the whole setting didn't exactly lead to arousal. So I don't see a reason for repeating the experience.
Quote from: HVC on May 04, 2012, 12:37:23 PM
Now imagine Morgan freeman saying it. It's a fun game :P
Yeah, Morgan Freeman is my official Life Voiceover(tm).
Sometimes, it's Alec Baldwin, but usually it's Morgan Freeman.
I prefer Ben Kingsley, myself.
Quote from: Syt on May 04, 2012, 01:24:28 PM
I prefer Ben Kingsley, myself.
Oooh, good one.
When I drove up to Vancouver from Seattle in 1982 I was told that bars in BC had to have two seperate rooms, one for "unaccompanied women."
We have nice strip clubs in most decent-sized cities. Madrid also has them.
They're avaliable to all over 18 who can pay. The clients are usually middle-to-upper-class, sometimes women too. The girls are chosen to be very good-looking, from North America, South America and Eastern Europe.
They should be naked at all times (except before a strip session) and are expected to socialize with the patrons at the club.
You can of course request lap dances at any time, or choose one for more private contact in side booths if you feel like it (i.e. get their pussies applied directly to your face if you feel like it).
Virtually every straight non-very-poor guy goes there periodically. Usually with friends, so as to discuss all kinds of issues with each other while covered in nude girls.
I don't think it is that different in America... or is it? :huh:
Quote from: Admiral Yi on May 04, 2012, 01:27:19 PM
When I drove up to Vancouver from Seattle in 1982 I was told that bars in BC had to have two seperate rooms, one for "unaccompanied women."
That was 1882 and Grumber, you should stop hacking Yi's account.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on May 04, 2012, 01:27:19 PM
When I drove up to Vancouver from Seattle in 1982 I was told that bars in BC had to have two seperate rooms, one for "unaccompanied women."
How old are you?
Who gets a hard on at a strip club?
Also I had a friend whose wife danced at a higher class joint a couple times a week as a second job, she made decent money managing a retail store during the day. She did it just because she got off on it and earned an extra grand or so a month. She was hot but it was awkward to go watch her dance with her husband.
Quote from: sbr on May 04, 2012, 02:27:14 PM
Who gets a hard on at a strip club?
Yeah, I dont understand the guys who think strip clubs are a kind of stand in for a (failed) date. If you are going there for that reason then you are exactly the kind of guy CdM is talking about.
I also dont really get the, "I dont enjoy seeing naked women because its exploitation" bit. Having known a few strippers (one who stripped her way through university) I can tell you that the strippers view the exploitation the other way around. Again, CdM is wise in the ways of the world.
Quote from: sbr on May 04, 2012, 02:27:14 PM
Who gets a hard on at a strip club?
Dude at the liquor store where I used to buy smokes told me he took cousins of his from the old country (he was a dothead) to a nudy bar and they all popped their wad in their pants. :lol:
Had to look that one up.
QuoteDothead is slang for an Asian Indian woman.
:hmm:
Usually Yi is about as comprehensible as a jive talking negro to me, but that reference I got. :smarty:
Quote from: Syt on May 04, 2012, 02:55:40 PM
Usually Yi is about as comprehensible as a jive talking negro to me, but that reference I got. :smarty:
Have you ever read any Damn Runyon? Wrote a lot of short stories, around Prohibition, mostly about gangsters.
Can't say that I have.
Take a look. I recommend.
I mention him because I think he influenced my conversational style.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on May 04, 2012, 03:14:05 PM
Take a look. I recommend.
I mention him because I think he influenced my conversational style.
Thanks, I will!
Quote from: sbr on May 04, 2012, 02:27:14 PM
Who gets a hard on at a strip club?
Those paying for "lap dances" (or at least, so I would assume, never having done so myself). :hmm:
Quote from: crazy canuck on May 04, 2012, 02:54:17 PM
Had to look that one up.
QuoteDothead is slang for an Asian Indian woman.
:hmm:
That dot is actually a pilot light ignition.
Quote from: Malthus on May 04, 2012, 03:33:49 PM
Quote from: sbr on May 04, 2012, 02:27:14 PM
Who gets a hard on at a strip club?
Those paying for "lap dances" (or at least, so I would assume, never having done so myself). :hmm:
Sigh once again your ignorance is showing.
You are out of your element Malthus
I'll hazard a guess that for quite a few of us Brits, public nudity or sex shows are no big deal, but the issue is the high degree of commercialisation; it's accepted in America that many more leisure activities will have corporate element interposing itself between the individual and the fun, where as for me and others, that's a real big positive turn off.
Nothing says free of commercial taint quite like attending a football match or drinking in a pub.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on May 04, 2012, 07:56:35 PM
Nothing says free of commercial taint quite like attending a football match or drinking in a pub.
You have sex at those places. :hmm:
Quote from: mongers on May 04, 2012, 07:26:51 PM
I'll hazard a guess that for quite a few of us Brits, public nudity or sex shows are no big deal, but the issue is the high degree of commercialisation; it's accepted in America that many more leisure activities will have corporate element interposing itself between the individual and the fun, where as for me and others, that's a real big positive turn off.
Corporate element? :hmm:
Not really sure what you are talking about there.
Quote from: Valmy on May 05, 2012, 04:02:17 PM
Corporate element? :hmm:
Not really sure what you are talking about there.
It's Mongers. Only start to worry when you read him and
don't realize its gibberish.
Quote from: crazy canuck on May 04, 2012, 08:29:17 AM
Quote from: Tyr on May 03, 2012, 11:36:21 PM
Its like going to a club and guarantied striking out.
Why do some guys here think they are going with the expectation of picking someone up?
Thats the whole point of clubs for guys.
Unless you're one of the strange few who like dancing.
(I originally had straight guys rather than just guys but who am I kidding. The gays love their dancing but that remains a secondary concern)
Quote from: Tyr on May 06, 2012, 06:15:54 AM
Thats the whole point of clubs for guys.
Unless you're one of the strange few who like dancing.
(I originally had straight guys rather than just guys but who am I kidding. The gays love their dancing but that remains a secondary concern)
:frusty:
The point of the post was why do some people think they are going to strip clubs to pick someone up.
Quote from: crazy canuck on May 06, 2012, 10:48:34 AM
Quote from: Tyr on May 06, 2012, 06:15:54 AM
Thats the whole point of clubs for guys.
Unless you're one of the strange few who like dancing.
(I originally had straight guys rather than just guys but who am I kidding. The gays love their dancing but that remains a secondary concern)
:frusty:
The point of the post was why do some people think they are going to strip clubs to pick someone up.
Some people do? Who?
That's mad.
Quote from: Tyr on May 06, 2012, 10:51:28 AM
Quote from: crazy canuck on May 06, 2012, 10:48:34 AM
Quote from: Tyr on May 06, 2012, 06:15:54 AM
Thats the whole point of clubs for guys.
Unless you're one of the strange few who like dancing.
(I originally had straight guys rather than just guys but who am I kidding. The gays love their dancing but that remains a secondary concern)
:frusty:
The point of the post was why do some people think they are going to strip clubs to pick someone up.
Some people do? Who?
That's mad.
Well for one, it seemed like you did when you said:
QuoteIts like going to a club and guarantied striking out.
;)
It's like going to the beach when it's guaranteed to rain.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on May 06, 2012, 11:31:44 AM
It's like going to the beach when it's guaranteed to rain.
Beautiful women walk around in bikinis on the beach when it rains where you live?
I've heard about strip mining in the US? Myth?
Quote from: The Brain on May 06, 2012, 12:30:21 PM
I've heard about strip mining in the US? Myth?
Fact. We even have strip malls. And no-pest strips.
Cool. But of course even in ancient times there were the topless towers of Ilium.
We blow mountains apart.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on May 06, 2012, 12:53:54 PM
Quote from: The Brain on May 06, 2012, 12:30:21 PM
I've heard about strip mining in the US? Myth?
Fact. We even have strip malls. And no-pest strips.
Do you think the US will ever bring back constription?
Quote from: Jacob on May 06, 2012, 01:24:02 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on May 06, 2012, 12:53:54 PM
Quote from: The Brain on May 06, 2012, 12:30:21 PM
I've heard about strip mining in the US? Myth?
Fact. We even have strip malls. And no-pest strips.
Do you think the US will ever bring back constription?
With our obesity problem? I hope not. :x
Quote from: Jacob on May 06, 2012, 01:24:02 PM
Do you think the US will ever bring back constription?
The fact that the US had striplings doesn't mean it had constription.* :contract:
* by the UN's definition, anyway.
Quote from: The Brain on May 06, 2012, 12:30:21 PM
I've heard about strip mining in the US? Myth?
I think it has something to do with lingerie football.
Quote from: Valmy on May 05, 2012, 04:02:17 PM
Quote from: mongers on May 04, 2012, 07:26:51 PM
I'll hazard a guess that for quite a few of us Brits, public nudity or sex shows are no big deal, but the issue is the high degree of commercialisation; it's accepted in America that many more leisure activities will have corporate element interposing itself between the individual and the fun, where as for me and others, that's a real big positive turn off.
Corporate element? :hmm:
Not really sure what you are talking about there.
It's Mongers, man.
"This presentation of Sinna Bunns in clear heels and face glitter has been brought to you by Kaiser Permanente. Thrive."
Quote from: katmai on May 04, 2012, 07:13:10 PM
Quote from: Malthus on May 04, 2012, 03:33:49 PM
Quote from: sbr on May 04, 2012, 02:27:14 PM
Who gets a hard on at a strip club?
Those paying for "lap dances" (or at least, so I would assume, never having done so myself). :hmm:
Sigh once again your ignorance is showing.
You are out of your element Malthus
So edumacate me.
Why, other than for sexual fun, do guys pay for "lap dances"? Cultural appreciation, perhaps? :hmm:
Quote from: Malthus on May 06, 2012, 03:13:32 PM
Why, other than for sexual fun, do guys pay for "lap dances"? Cultural appreciation, perhaps? :hmm:
lap dancers = not the wife
That's pretty much it.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on May 06, 2012, 11:31:44 AM
It's like going to the beach when it's guaranteed to rain.
It's like rain on your wedding day.
Quote from: Caliga on May 06, 2012, 04:30:59 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on May 06, 2012, 11:31:44 AM
It's like going to the beach when it's guaranteed to rain.
It's like rain on your wedding day.
It's a free ride when you've already paid.
Quote from: Malthus on May 06, 2012, 03:13:32 PM
So edumacate me.
Why, other than for sexual fun, do guys pay for "lap dances"? Cultural appreciation, perhaps? :hmm:
When i've gone with friends it has been the custom of buying lap dances for them, not yourself and vice versa.
Quote from: FunkMonk on May 06, 2012, 06:56:00 PM
Quote from: Caliga on May 06, 2012, 04:30:59 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on May 06, 2012, 11:31:44 AM
It's like going to the beach when it's guaranteed to rain.
It's like rain on your wedding day.
It's a free ride when you've already paid.
Good advice that you just didnt take.
Quote from: Malthus on May 06, 2012, 03:13:32 PM
So edumacate me.
Why, other than for sexual fun, do guys pay for "lap dances"? Cultural appreciation, perhaps? :hmm:
With a stag party it's a way to toast the groom. I think for most guys it's a way to negotiate more face time.
Quote from: crazy canuck on May 06, 2012, 07:28:28 PM
Quote from: FunkMonk on May 06, 2012, 06:56:00 PM
Quote from: Caliga on May 06, 2012, 04:30:59 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on May 06, 2012, 11:31:44 AM
It's like going to the beach when it's guaranteed to rain.
It's like rain on your wedding day.
It's a free ride when you've already paid.
Good advice that you just didnt take.
It's like a bearskin rug with the bear still in it.
More like a traffic jam when you're already late.
Quote from: crazy canuck on May 06, 2012, 11:01:23 AM
Well for one, it seemed like you did when you said:
QuoteIts like going to a club and guarantied striking out.
;)
Nyet.
Go to a real club- you see hot girls and you hope to pull.
Go to a trip club- you see hot girls and you know there is no chance of anything more than paying large sums of money to be teased.
Assuming the place is reputable of course.
Quote from: Tyr on May 07, 2012, 07:15:46 AM
Nyet.
Go to a real club- you see hot girls and you hope to pull.
Go to a trip club- you see hot girls and you know there is no chance of anything more than paying large sums of money to be teased.
Assuming the place is reputable of course.
Some people like being teased. And nobody goes to strip clubs when what they want is to take somebody home for sex. So yeah not really sure what your point is.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 02, 2012, 03:41:03 PM
Only two words matter in a strip club, or you're just wasting your time: Out. Call.
Bumped for fucking truth.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 07, 2012, 08:08:29 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 02, 2012, 03:41:03 PM
Only two words matter in a strip club, or you're just wasting your time: Out. Call.
Bumped for fucking truth.
Heh. Well that to.
Quote from: katmai on May 06, 2012, 07:00:46 PM
Quote from: Malthus on May 06, 2012, 03:13:32 PM
So edumacate me.
Why, other than for sexual fun, do guys pay for "lap dances"? Cultural appreciation, perhaps? :hmm:
When i've gone with friends it has been the custom of buying lap dances for them, not yourself and vice versa.
And no boners were ever had by any during this procedure?
Call me crazy, but if I had a hott chick grinding her crotch into mine, paid for by a friend or otherwise, I'd sora expect one. :lol:
Pardon my naivete but what does Out. Call. mean?
Quote from: Jaron on May 07, 2012, 08:42:13 AM
Pardon my naivete but what does Out. Call. mean?
Outcall. Translation: "After you get off at work at the club, how about you come over to my hotel room for some extra cash?"
Quote from: Jaron on May 07, 2012, 08:42:13 AM
Pardon my naivete but what does Out. Call. mean?
:XD:
Quote from: Malthus on May 07, 2012, 08:40:59 AM
And no boners were ever had by any during this procedure?
Call me crazy, but if I had a hott chick grinding her crotch into mine, paid for by a friend or otherwise, I'd sora expect one. :lol:
Surprising as it may sound, the male and female body are not really designed to optimize crotch on crotch contact while the male is in the seated position.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on May 07, 2012, 05:48:42 PM
Quote from: Malthus on May 07, 2012, 08:40:59 AM
And no boners were ever had by any during this procedure?
Call me crazy, but if I had a hott chick grinding her crotch into mine, paid for by a friend or otherwise, I'd sora expect one. :lol:
Surprising as it may sound, the male and female body are not really designed to optimize crotch on crotch contact while the male is in the seated position.
I've had sex in this position ... ;)
But I take it that you guys are claiming that lap-dances do not, in fact, result in any sexual arousal for the person receiving them?
I find that "hard" to believe. :D
Not me :perv:
Quote from: Malthus on May 07, 2012, 05:54:38 PM
I've had sex in this position ... ;)
But I take it that you guys are claiming that lap-dances do not, in fact, result in any sexual arousal for the person receiving them?
I find that "hard" to believe. :D
Not zero. This Eye-talian American chick humped my leg in Atlantic City and I got some serious wood.
But generally the lap dance is not a very effective means of sexual release.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on May 07, 2012, 05:58:03 PM
Quote from: Malthus on May 07, 2012, 05:54:38 PM
I've had sex in this position ... ;)
But I take it that you guys are claiming that lap-dances do not, in fact, result in any sexual arousal for the person receiving them?
I find that "hard" to believe. :D
Not zero. This Eye-talian American chick humped my leg in Atlantic City and I got some serious wood.
But generally the lap dance is not a very effective means of sexual release.
Well yeah, I'm not claiming that guys regularly shoot their wad while being "danced". :D I was just taking issue with being called out for claiming guys who get lap dances are likely looking to get turned on.
Other than some sort of male bonding social ritual, what other point could paying a woman to dry-hump you have?
I already answered that question.
Quote from: 11B4V on May 07, 2012, 09:18:28 AM
Quote from: Jaron on May 07, 2012, 08:42:13 AM
Pardon my naivete but what does Out. Call. mean?
:XD:
You'll love this.
Was out in Phoenix last year, and we hit a really, really cool strip club. I approached the youngish manager about an hour before closing, and asked him if any of the girls do any outcall on the side.
"Gee, I don't know. Gosh, I hope not. This is my first night."
Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 07, 2012, 09:26:52 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on May 07, 2012, 09:18:28 AM
Quote from: Jaron on May 07, 2012, 08:42:13 AM
Pardon my naivete but what does Out. Call. mean?
:XD:
You'll love this.
Was out in Phoenix last year, and we hit a really, really cool strip club. I approached the youngish manager about an hour before closing, and asked him if any of the girls do any outcall on the side.
"Gee, I don't know. Gosh, I hope not. This is my first night."
:lol: Sounds like he wasnt with the in crowd. I would bet they were.
Quote from: 11B4V on May 07, 2012, 09:39:52 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 07, 2012, 09:26:52 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on May 07, 2012, 09:18:28 AM
Quote from: Jaron on May 07, 2012, 08:42:13 AM
Pardon my naivete but what does Out. Call. mean?
:XD:
You'll love this.
Was out in Phoenix last year, and we hit a really, really cool strip club. I approached the youngish manager about an hour before closing, and asked him if any of the girls do any outcall on the side.
"Gee, I don't know. Gosh, I hope not. This is my first night."
:lol: Sounds like he wasnt with the in crowd. I would bet they were.
Yeah, but I wasn't too sure about those vibes, and didn't feel like coming across the wrong lesbian with a right fist.