I nedd to go to Chicago on bidness at the end of next week, and for the first time in a long time it looks like I might have time to go have a meal on my own, rather than having it catered/going to a company function. I want a real ChicAAAAAAHgo hot dog in its native habitat. Tell me where to go, people.
I'll by flying in and out of Midway and my office is near Clark and Division St north of the river. I told my admin to get me a hotel room right by the office so that's generally the neighborhood I'll be in the entire time.
Bro, that's nowhere at all near my office. :(
Whoops, I meant Clark and Lake, not Clark and Division.
Quote from: Ed Anger on February 29, 2012, 08:39:22 PM
Bro, it all tastes the same. Like everything else chicago, the hot dogs are overrated.
I'm starting to like Chicago, actually. It's like a larger version of Philadelphia. More egalitarian in nature and less snooty than fucking Boston or NYC.
They probably sell them at Wrigley Field. Any chance you can postpone for a month?
Wasn't aware there was such a thing as a Chicago hot dog.
What is so special about Chicago hotdogs?
@yi Yeah. They have them at Sonic now. But I wouldn't trust a Sonic Chicago hot dog to be authentic. Also, I hate the way Sonic works. I want a restaurant I can actually go in to. :rolleyes:
Quote from: Monoriu on February 29, 2012, 08:49:11 PM
What is so special about Chicago hotdogs?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago_hot_dog (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago_hot_dog)
Quote from: Caliga on February 29, 2012, 08:50:03 PM
@yi Yeah. They have them at Sonic now. But I wouldn't trust a Sonic Chicago hot dog to be authentic. Also, I hate the way Sonic works. I want a restaurant I can actually go in to. :rolleyes:
When I was stuck in San Angelo, TX....cute girls from the local college wearing skimping clothes while bringing my grape creamslush and tater tots was a welcome distraction after class. :(
A hot dog without ketchup? :x
Hotdogs are absolutely disgusting.
Quote from: Tonitrus on February 29, 2012, 09:02:55 PM
When I was stuck in San Angelo, TX....cute girls from the local college wearing skimping clothes while bringing my grape creamslush and tater tots was a welcome distraction after class. :(
A real man doesn't apologize for perving out on the young trim.
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on February 29, 2012, 09:08:43 PM
A hot dog without ketchup? :x
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A number of Chicago hot dog vendors do not even offer ketchup as a condiment while ones that do often use it as a litmus test.
That's right, bitches.
The main differences seem to be no ketchup, mint flavour, and lots of toppings. Sounds worth a try.
Though I think the only way I'll ever try it is if I make it myself.
I mean, sure I could see leaving it off if you have chili to put on instead. /shrug
I have to admit that when I was a kid I used to put ketchup on hot dogs. :blush:
Hot Doug's.
http://hotdougs.com/
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on February 29, 2012, 09:17:16 PM
I mean, sure I could see leaving it off if you have chili to put on instead. /shrug
I replace it in all cases with this:
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There's simply no reason to use ketchup ever. It's like ordering a hot juicy steak and then dumping a big pile of sugar on it.
I don't put ketchup on steaks, not even the tangy variants like A1 and Heinz 57. But hot dogs are barely edible by themselves.
I have a bottle of that stuff MiM. :cool:
The Chinese on the bottle actually says "sweet hot pepper sauce".
The only way to eat hotdogs:
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That's with mustard, onions, Cincy chili, and shredded mild cheddar.
I like the chili dogs at Skyline, but I usually just get their chili. :licklips:
I need to go back to Chicago.
Also, thanks for the thread, Cal. It reminded me of Potbelly's Sandwiches which was one of my favorite chains in the Loop. I knew that they had opened locations in New York last year and turns out they opened one just a few blocks from my office. So excited!
There seems to be one of those near my Chicago office, and we also have one in downtown Louisville. :hmm:
Quote from: garbon on February 29, 2012, 09:50:35 PM
Also, thanks for the thread, Cal. It reminded me of Potbelly's Sandwiches which was one of my favorite chains in the Loop. I knew that they had opened locations in New York last year and turns out they opened one just a few blocks from my office. So excited!
Off-topic, but they worth it? There's a Potbelly's close to the girlfriend's place in Philly, and we've been debating off and on whether or not to give it a try.
Quote from: DontSayBanana on February 29, 2012, 10:03:37 PM
Quote from: garbon on February 29, 2012, 09:50:35 PM
Also, thanks for the thread, Cal. It reminded me of Potbelly's Sandwiches which was one of my favorite chains in the Loop. I knew that they had opened locations in New York last year and turns out they opened one just a few blocks from my office. So excited!
Off-topic, but they worth it? There's a Potbelly's close to the girlfriend's place in Philly, and we've been debating off and on whether or not to give it a try.
Well I can't speak for everyone's tastes but me - one of my favorite chains. I think the only sandwich place I've ever been where I enjoy ordering it with everything on it. I was excited when my hotel was near one in Philadelphia and similarly in DC.
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on February 29, 2012, 09:11:53 PM
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A number of Chicago hot dog vendors do not even offer ketchup as a condiment while ones that do often use it as a litmus test.
That's right, bitches.
lol, that's how they tell if you're a commie fag or not.
Nobody over the age of 8 uses ketchup on a real hot dog.
:rolleyes:
Next thing you'll be ragging on peanut butter & banana sandwiches.
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on February 29, 2012, 11:07:40 PM
:rolleyes:
Next thing you'll be ragging on peanut butter & banana sandwiches.
:elvis:
Quote from: CountDeMoney on February 29, 2012, 11:00:30 PM
Nobody over the age of 8 uses ketchup on a real hot dog.
Well maybe who lack taste don't use ketchup. It's one of the basic housekeeping items like bread and milk.
Quote from: garbon on February 29, 2012, 11:17:50 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on February 29, 2012, 11:00:30 PM
Nobody over the age of 8 uses ketchup on a real hot dog.
Well maybe who lack taste don't use ketchup. It's one of the basic housekeeping items like bread and milk.
It is, and I am a big fan of ketchup. It's liquid Americana. BUT IT DOESN'T BELONG ON A HOT DOG.
That's what is great about America, people can have differing opinions Money! *
* I have sweet relish on mine. :P
Quote from: CountDeMoney on February 29, 2012, 11:23:23 PM
It is, and I am a big fan of ketchup. It's liquid Americana. BUT IT DOESN'T BELONG ON A HOT DOG.
Sometimes you are just wrong and this is one of those occasions. I feel free to be American all over the place.
Quote from: katmai on February 29, 2012, 11:25:05 PM
That's what is great about America, people can have differing opinions Money! *
* I have sweet relish on mine. :P
I'm not sure I understand these exclusivist stances. You can and should have more than one condiment!
By no means did i mean to imply you could have only one, just that my favorite standard is Relish and if anything else I'll use hot sauce or BBQ. I used to love Ketchup as kid, but just don't love it anymore.
Quote from: katmai on February 29, 2012, 11:25:05 PM
* I have sweet relish on mine. :P
There's nothing wrong with that.
Quote from: garbon on February 29, 2012, 11:26:05 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on February 29, 2012, 11:23:23 PM
It is, and I am a big fan of ketchup. It's liquid Americana. BUT IT DOESN'T BELONG ON A HOT DOG.
Sometimes you are just wrong and this is one of those occasions. I feel free to be American all over the place.
Fine. :glare:
For me, it's all about the kraut.
Quote from: garbon on February 29, 2012, 10:05:24 PM
Quote from: DontSayBanana on February 29, 2012, 10:03:37 PM
Quote from: garbon on February 29, 2012, 09:50:35 PM
Also, thanks for the thread, Cal. It reminded me of Potbelly's Sandwiches which was one of my favorite chains in the Loop. I knew that they had opened locations in New York last year and turns out they opened one just a few blocks from my office. So excited!
Off-topic, but they worth it? There's a Potbelly's close to the girlfriend's place in Philly, and we've been debating off and on whether or not to give it a try.
Well I can't speak for everyone's tastes but me - one of my favorite chains. I think the only sandwich place I've ever been where I enjoy ordering it with everything on it. I was excited when my hotel was near one in Philadelphia and similarly in DC.
Potbelly's is, in fact, awesome. Downtown meeting attendance swells when people find out lunch is getting catered from Potbelly's. Awesome sammiches.
Mustard uber alles!
All my recommendations are too far from your Chicago office, unfortunately.
And indeed, PotBelly seems to have expanded tremendously. I saw a number of them in Washington as well.
Quote from: Oexmelin on March 01, 2012, 12:23:07 AM
And indeed, PotBelly seems to have expanded tremendously. I saw a number of them in Washington as well.
Wiki says they opened two locations in Dubai!
http://www.thepauperedchef.com/2008/09/chicago-eats-pa.html (http://www.thepauperedchef.com/2008/09/chicago-eats-pa.html)
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:mmm:
Think I might make some of those soon.
What is the deal with hot dogs? I mean they're not hot, and they're not dogs!
My sandwich is so good and the oatmeal chocolate chip cookie!
I'm hungry.
Hot Dogs should have ketcup, fried onions, fried mushrooms, melted cheese and that's it. If you have to go outside that you can add a bit of mustard and some sauerkraut. Outside of that, no dice. The dogs themselves should be grilled, not boiled. Buns should be white bread, not whole wheat or some other shit and you can warm the buns up by steaming or in the oven / bbq if you want. That's basically it. Venturing outside of these parameters means you will have a shitty hot dog.
Quote from: PRC on March 01, 2012, 03:57:32 PM
Hot Dogs should have ketcup, fried onions, fried mushrooms, melted cheese and that's it. If you have to go outside that you can add a bit of mustard and some sauerkraut. Outside of that, no dice. The dogs themselves should be grilled, not boiled. Buns should be white bread, not whole wheat or some other shit and you can warm the buns up by steaming or in the oven / bbq if you want. That's basically it. Venturing outside of these parameters means you will have a shitty hot dog.
:huh:
Hot dogs have to come out of the dirty hot dog water.
Quote from: Capetan Mihali on March 02, 2012, 12:40:14 PM
:huh:
Hot dogs have to come out of the dirty hot dog water.
Nonsense! You just put a few slices onto them and throw them on the BBQ.
How did I miss this thread?
The Chicago dog is the pinnacle of the hot dog experience, much like Chicago is the pinnacle of the Midwest.
Quote from: The Brain on March 01, 2012, 04:37:59 AM
What is the deal with hot dogs? I mean they're not hot, and they're not dogs!
*bass riff*
Quote from: PRC on March 01, 2012, 03:57:32 PM
Hot Dogs should have ketcup, fried onions, fried mushrooms, melted cheese and that's it.
O_O
PRC's hot dog is one wierd hot dog.
I do two basic set ups. Sauerkraut and mustard, possibly some raw onion, OR chili and cheese, possibly some raw onion.
Quote from: fahdiz on March 02, 2012, 05:51:13 PM
How did I miss this thread?
The Chicago dog is the pinnacle of the hot dog experience, much like Chicago is the pinnacle of the Midwest.
So help a nigga out re: where to get a good one.
IIRC the default answers are Portillo's and Hot Doug's.
Not hot dogs, but might I recommend: Al's Beef. Italian beef sandwich with giardiniera. Do it. Portillo's has them too, actually.
My boss keeps telling me to go to Harry Caray's, but isn't that just a (overpriced) steakhouse?
Yes re: Harry Caray's.
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on March 02, 2012, 06:50:30 PM
IIRC the default answers are Portillo's and Hot Doug's.
Not hot dogs, but might I recommend: Al's Beef. Italian beef sandwich with giardiniera. Do it. Portillo's has them too, actually.
Italian beef is on the "need to try" list also. :)
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on March 02, 2012, 06:50:30 PM
Not hot dogs, but might I recommend: Al's Beef. Italian beef sandwich with giardiniera. Do it.
Yep, those are incredible.
Quote from: Caliga on March 02, 2012, 06:44:46 PM
So help a nigga out re: where to get a good one.
As mentioned: Hot Doug's and Portillo's. Also for one that gets crazy on the toppings, try Murphy's Red Hots.
Quote from: Caliga on March 02, 2012, 07:19:08 PM
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on March 02, 2012, 06:50:30 PM
IIRC the default answers are Portillo's and Hot Doug's.
Not hot dogs, but might I recommend: Al's Beef. Italian beef sandwich with giardiniera. Do it. Portillo's has them too, actually.
Italian beef is on the "need to try" list also. :)
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PRC's hot dog sounds downright disgusting to me. I never, ever, ever put cheese on a hot dog. For me, it has to be a chicago dog, a chili dog (NOT a chili-cheese dog), or just mustard.
I love how you Yanks debate the various merits of totally shit food. ZOMG CHICAGO HOT DOGS ARE SOOOO GOOD!
No, they are not. Grow the hell up, America.
:foodsnob:
The first time I ordered a hot dog at a Vienna sausage stand I was kind of surprised.
The guy took a long bread roll, cut off one end, then spiked it (to kinda hollow it out). He then put the grilled sausage of my choice (e.g. Käsekrainer - a variety with cheese bits inside) into the roll, asked for my condiment (ketchup, sweet or spicy mustard), squirted it inside the roll, and rearranged the cut off tip on top. Which creates something like this:
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The use of different bread (it's more baguette-like) and full-sized, grilled bratwursts make this pretty much a full meal.
Quote from: Syt on March 03, 2012, 12:33:05 AM
The first time I ordered a hot dog at a Vienna sausage stand I was kind of surprised.
The guy took a long bread roll, cut off one end, then spiked it (to kinda hollow it out). He then put the grilled sausage of my choice (e.g. Käsekrainer - a variety with cheese bits inside) into the roll, asked for my condiment (ketchup, sweet or spicy mustard), squirted it inside the roll, and rearranged the cut off tip on top. Which creates something like this:
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The use of different bread (it's more baguette-like) and full-sized, grilled bratwursts make this pretty much a full meal.
I ate those every day for 2 months in Prague in 1994... you could get a bunch of them for under a dollar along with a couple 60 cent pints and it was my daily bread.
Thanks for your input but this is an American thread.
:lol:
Quote from: sbr on March 03, 2012, 01:02:57 AM
Thanks for your input but this is an American thread.
To be fair, the Europeans were the inspiration for the American hot dog.
http://www.thepauperedchef.com/2008/10/hot-dog-part-2.html (http://www.thepauperedchef.com/2008/10/hot-dog-part-2.html)
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Quote from: Zoupa on March 03, 2012, 12:32:14 AM
I love how you Yanks debate the various merits of totally shit food. ZOMG CHICAGO HOT DOGS ARE SOOOO GOOD!
No, they are not. Grow the hell up, America.
:foodsnob:
*cough* poutine *cough*
Quote from: sbr on March 03, 2012, 01:02:57 AM
Thanks for your input but this is an American thread.
We haven't even mentioned Danish Hot Dogs yet. :rolleyes:
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Hot dog in a danish?
That's like tits on a bull! :o
What's the crumbly stuff on there, Syt?
Quote from: fahdiz on March 03, 2012, 11:41:21 AM
What's the crumbly stuff on there, Syt?
It looks like fried onion flakes. :unsure:
Quote from: DontSayBanana on March 03, 2012, 11:52:20 AM
Quote from: fahdiz on March 03, 2012, 11:41:21 AM
What's the crumbly stuff on there, Syt?
It looks like fried onion flakes. :unsure:
The Danes are strange, so I thought I'd make sure.
A Danish hot dog should be bright red.
Quote from: fahdiz on March 03, 2012, 11:41:21 AM
What's the crumbly stuff on there, Syt?
Crispy fried onions.
Quote from: DontSayBanana on March 03, 2012, 12:55:12 PM
Quote from: Syt on March 03, 2012, 12:46:35 PM
Crispy fried onions.
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About the only place I will ever order a hot dog is a baseball game, but I think that's mostly some psychological nostalgia coming to the fore there.
As much (deserved) hate as hot dogs get, kosher all beef hot dogs actually aren't bad.
My cookouts always feature a ton of brats and Italian sausages. Growing up spending much of my early years in Europe and having a German mother I came to appreciate sausages with a bit more heft/substance (I thought about it and there is absolutely no way to say that without setting yourself up for a penis joke.) I remember in the early 90s when I'd go to cookouts in VA people would look at me like I landed from a different planet when I put some brats on the grill.
People on the east coast have gotten a little more used to brats now, but it's still almost like a foreign food. Ohio is a real shit hole of a State but they do at least have a good appreciation for brats, italian sausage, kielbasa and etc that is sadly still lacking further east.
The last time I went to Chicago there was a place that specialized in Chicago dogs but also were known for their fries, which they deep fry in duck fat. Chicago dogs aren't anything special, but their fries were fucking amazing. Can't remember the name of the place now.
Quote from: OttoVonBismarck on March 04, 2012, 01:06:53 PM
The last time I went to Chicago there was a place that specialized in Chicago dogs but also were known for their fries, which they deep fry in duck fat. Chicago dogs aren't anything special, but their fries were fucking amazing. Can't remember the name of the place now.
Hot Doug's.
Quote from: OttoVonBismarck on March 04, 2012, 01:05:56 PM
About the only place I will ever order a hot dog is a baseball game, but I think that's mostly some psychological nostalgia coming to the fore there.
As much (deserved) hate as hot dogs get, kosher all beef hot dogs actually aren't bad.
My cookouts always feature a ton of brats and Italian sausages. Growing up spending much of my early years in Europe and having a German mother I came to appreciate sausages with a bit more heft/substance (I thought about it and there is absolutely no way to say that without setting yourself up for a penis joke.) I remember in the early 90s when I'd go to cookouts in VA people would look at me like I landed from a different planet when I put some brats on the grill.
People on the east coast have gotten a little more used to brats now, but it's still almost like a foreign food. Ohio is a real shit hole of a State but they do at least have a good appreciation for brats, italian sausage, kielbasa and etc that is sadly still lacking further east.
Brats are an absolute necessity. Doesn't matter what I'm grilling, there will be the odd bratwurst or six on there as well just to have later. Does seem to be an Ohio-Wisconsinish thing, though it's spreading a bit now--especially through the Johnsonville company's marketing. In upstate NY it was white hots, which are a sort of variant of weisswurst. Also quite good.
You'll usually find them at cookouts down here, too.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on March 02, 2012, 05:57:59 PM
PRC's hot dog is one wierd hot dog.
I do two basic set ups. Sauerkraut and mustard, possibly some raw onion, OR chili and cheese, possibly some raw onion.
I always use the raw onion, but otherwise agree. Sweet stuff like relish and catsup ruin the hot dog for me.
I do prefer grilled to boiled, though.
Had chicken vesuvio at Harry Caray's. VICKEN CHISUVIO, HOLY COW!
CUBS WIN
Quote from: OttoVonBismarck on March 04, 2012, 01:05:56 PM
My cookouts always feature a ton of brats and Italian sausages. Growing up spending much of my early years in Europe and having a German mother I came to appreciate sausages with a bit more heft/substance (I thought about it and there is absolutely no way to say that without setting yourself up for a penis joke.) I remember in the early 90s when I'd go to cookouts in VA people would look at me like I landed from a different planet when I put some brats on the grill.
People on the east coast have gotten a little more used to brats now, but it's still almost like a foreign food. Ohio is a real shit hole of a State but they do at least have a good appreciation for brats, italian sausage, kielbasa and etc that is sadly still lacking further east.
I've never been a big fan of using alcohol with cooking--other than steaming crabs with Schlitz, Artie Donovan-style--but I do love prepping brats for a cookout by punching some holes in them and letting them marinate in Guinness Stout for about 4 hours. Dear God, they're so good that way.
There's not a chili I make that doesn't have a can of beer in it.
Quote from: Syt on March 09, 2012, 10:55:10 AM
There's not a chili I make that doesn't have a can of beer in it.
For me, it's beef stew. I'll use any combination of dark ale/ stout and red wine. :yeah:
Quote from: CountDeMoney on March 09, 2012, 07:14:36 AM
I've never been a big fan of using alcohol with cooking--other than steaming crabs with Schlitz, Artie Donovan-style--but I do love prepping brats for a cookout by punching some holes in them and letting them marinate in Guinness Stout for about 4 hours. Dear God, they're so good that way.
I have a recipe for cooking a pork roast in the crockpot that calls for red wine and onion soup mix, among other things. Fucking killer.
I also had an Italian beef, again at Harry Caray's (my boss is obsessed with that place, it seems :hmm: ). Decent sammich, but cheesesteaks are way better.
On Monday I'm going to beat my admin for forgetting to get me business class tickets... I had to stand in the 'general' security line with all the scum at Midway last night and it took like 45 minutes to clear security. :weep: When I got to the checkpoint some dumb bitch's shoes fell into the tub with my laptop and consequently the security lady bitched at me because "YOU DID NOT FOLLOW PROPAH PROCEDUH". :wacko:
I also discovered that one of the people up in Chicago who annoys me all the time is an Asian chick with big boobs. :) I was kind of berating her for something and she broke into the whole "me so solly" thing. No "me love you long time" though. :(
Quote from: Syt on March 09, 2012, 10:55:10 AM
There's not a chili I make that doesn't have a can of beer in it.
I'm willing to bet you're the only European who makes chili.
Is there a tradition around what happens to the guest who gets the choker in his chilli?
Had another half-day meeting with my friends at Bain Consulting today (this one in Louisville). I kind of like their strategy of filling every available seat with young attractive females who spend the entire meeting saying nothing and flipping/fiddling with their fake blonde hair. That seems worth the $95,000 a month we've been paying them. :)
Quote from: Caliga on March 10, 2012, 06:21:51 AM
I also discovered that one of the people up in Chicago who annoys me all the time is an Asian chick with big boobs. :) I was kind of berating her for something and she broke into the whole "me so solly" thing. No "me love you long time" though. :(
Big boobs on Asians are always nice, I think because it's such a surprise.
She looks like she's probably only half Asian... that could be why.
Quote from: Caliga on March 10, 2012, 06:21:51 AM
I also discovered that one of the people up in Chicago who annoys me all the time is an Asian chick with big boobs. :) I was kind of berating her for something and she broke into the whole "me so solly" thing. No "me love you long time" though. :(
Voted "post that sounds most like the beginning of a porn scenario" of the week. :lol:
I think I'm going to have to berate her more tomorrow, actually. But it'll have to be over the phone. Maybe I'll play a clip of this to her over the phone:
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STUPID! YOU SO STUPID!
UHF joke = COMEDY GOLD
Actually, come to think of it, she looks downright smart next to the chick I caught today posting an offset charge to zero out a bank reconciliation instead of reversing a receipt that she booked twice... for some odd reason. She then went on to wonder why she couldn't reverse the receipt that she booked twice. "Um, because you already cleared it as part of posting your bullshit bank rec, you FUCKING NITWIT!" :frusty:
Quote from: Ed Anger on March 14, 2012, 06:45:47 PM
UHF joke = COMEDY GOLD
Oh, I've got those out the wazoo chief. :cool: In fact, I made a Conan the Librarian joke at work a few weeks back ("Don't you know the Dewey Decimal System!?") Only the IT Director got it. :)
Quote from: OttoVonBismarck on March 13, 2012, 10:12:41 PM
Quote from: Caliga on March 10, 2012, 06:21:51 AM
I also discovered that one of the people up in Chicago who annoys me all the time is an Asian chick with big boobs. :) I was kind of berating her for something and she broke into the whole "me so solly" thing. No "me love you long time" though. :(
Big boobs on Asians are always nice, I think because it's such a surprise.
Yeah. I think I've only seen that once in the wild. She was Milfy & quite hot. Too bad I hate the bank she works for, or else I'd have volunteered to go out there on a follow-up project.
Dragon Lady had juicy 34Bs for a 4'10", 95 lb frame.
Fucking whore.
Quote from: Caliga on March 10, 2012, 06:19:00 AM
On Monday I'm going to beat my admin for forgetting to get me business class tickets... I had to stand in the 'general' security line with all the scum at Midway last night and it took like 45 minutes to clear security. :weep: When I got to the checkpoint some dumb bitch's shoes fell into the tub with my laptop and consequently the security lady bitched at me because "YOU DID NOT FOLLOW PROPAH PROCEDUH". :wacko:
My prayers have been flanswered. :cool:
Quote
$100 to Fly Through the Airport
By SCOTT MCCARTNEY
Hate the full-body scans, pat-downs and slow going at TSA airport security screening checkpoints? For $100, you can now bypass the hassle.
The Transportation Security Administration is rolling out expedited screening at big airports called "Precheck." It has special lanes for background-checked travelers, who can keep their shoes, belt and jacket on, leave laptops and liquids in carry-on bags and walk through a metal detector rather than a full-body scan. The process, now at two airlines and nine airports, is much like how screenings worked before the Sept. 11 attacks.
To qualify, frequent fliers must meet undisclosed TSA criteria and get invited in by the airlines. There is also a backdoor in. Approved travelers who are in the U.S. Customs and Border Protection's "Global Entry" program can transfer into Precheck using their Global Entry number.
"It's a completely different experience than what you're used to," said Matt Stegmeir, a platinum-level Delta Air Lines Inc. DAL +3.55%frequent flier who was invited into Precheck when it opened at his home airport, Minneapolis-St. Paul. Besides zipping through security screening quickly and easily, Mr. Stegmeir noticed another difference: TSA agents at the Precheck lane are usually smiling.
"It's really a jarring contrast. It reminds you just how much of a hassle the security procedures in place really are," he said.
Global Entry has been extremely popular with frequent international travelers. Approved travelers get to use a kiosk to enter the country rather than waiting in often-long lines to get their passports stamped and go through Customs inspection.
Consider that in January at Chicago's O'Hare International Airport, the average wait in line was 35 minutes between 4 and 5 p.m., and the longest wait was 137 minutes. The wait at Terminal 1 at New York's Kennedy International Airport averaged 44 minutes in January for people arriving between 10 and 11 a.m. Enrolling requires a $100 application fee for a background check, plus a brief interview with a Customs officer.
For domestic travel, Global Entry pays off because it gets you into Precheck. Once TSA announced in the fall that enrollment in Global Entry and CBP's other "trusted travel" programs (Nexus for frequent travel across the Canadian border and Sentri for frequent travel across the Mexican border) would get you into Precheck, applications for Global Entry took off.
In February, for example, 26,602 people applied, more than triple the number of applications in February 2011, according to CBP. And February applications were up 42% from January as more and more travelers catch on.
"We want as many people as possible in the program," said John Wagner, CBP's executive director of admissibility and passenger programs.
TSA says it also wants as many people as possible in Precheck, which is still in pilot-testing phase. Both agencies say the programs can enhance screening of people they know nothing about if they can move low-risk people who submit to background checks out of the main queues.
"We can reduce the size of the haystack when we are looking for that one-in-a-billion terrorist," said TSA Administrator John Pistole.
Mr. Pistole, an FBI veteran who took over TSA in 2010, said that by studying frequent-flier histories as well as conducting background checks, he's confident the U.S. now has the technology and the intelligence information to make less-rigorous, faster screening work. TSA has been trying to move to more "risk-based" security—something critics have suggested for many years.
Once in Precheck, TSA still checks names against terrorism watch lists before every flight, just as it does for other travelers. If a passenger is cleared for Precheck screening, a code is embedded in a traveler's boarding pass.
Precheck members usually get to use security lines set up for first-class and elite-level frequent fliers. But Precheck travelers actually don't know if they will get to use the easy screening until the TSA officer checking IDs actually scans the boarding pass. If the pass has the code, a Precheck passenger is steered to a separate screening lane for what amounts to old-style airport screening.
TSA says Precheck members are selected randomly for regular screening to enhance security. But that unpredictability irks frequent travelers. The agency doesn't make travelers go to the end of the regular screening line, however, but instead slips them into the front of the regular queue.
"I like Precheck, but it would be much more valuable to me if I were able to know before leaving for the airport whether or not I had Precheck approval for that day's flights," said Beth Allen, a University of Minnesota economist and frequent traveler.
Gary Kaminsky, who travels 100,000 miles a year domestically, says he's gotten Precheck screening on about 80% of his trips so far out of Los Angeles International Airport, his home base, on AMR Corp.'s American Airlines. "When it does work, it's phenomenal," he said. "It cuts security screening down to about 30 seconds."
For now, travelers say Precheck lanes are almost always empty—no waiting. In fact, Precheck may be making regular lines longer since equipment and officers are devoted to a little-used lane. Mr. Pistole said that will change as the program expands and the agency collects more data.
Currently, TSA is working with only two airlines, American and Delta, because they were able to handle computing requirements set by TSA for the frequent-flier aspect. Even if you get into Precheck through Global Entry, it will currently only work for you on American and Delta domestic flights at airports with Precheck lanes.
Also, Precheck lanes are in place only at nine airports. Currently, American passengers can use it in Dallas-Fort Worth, New York Kennedy, Los Angeles and Miami. Delta passengers have Precheck access in Atlanta, Detroit and Salt Lake City. Passengers on both airlines can use Precheck in Las Vegas and Minneapolis-St. Paul.
Later this month, Precheck is set to expand to Washington's Reagan National Airport for Delta passengers and certain members of the U.S. military, and Chicago O'Hare with American.
By the end of the year, Mr. Pistole said Precheck will be in place at 35 airports and six airlines, covering most major U.S. airports and airlines. Expansion will continue in 2013, but Precheck probably won't be available at all 450 commercial airports, since many have a small number of travelers each day. "The goal is to cover the broadest cross-section of travelers," he said.
Did you ever actually have a hot dog or what?
Quote from: Caliga on March 16, 2012, 06:40:30 AM
Quote from: Caliga on March 10, 2012, 06:19:00 AM
On Monday I'm going to beat my admin for forgetting to get me business class tickets... I had to stand in the 'general' security line with all the scum at Midway last night and it took like 45 minutes to clear security. :weep: When I got to the checkpoint some dumb bitch's shoes fell into the tub with my laptop and consequently the security lady bitched at me because "YOU DID NOT FOLLOW PROPAH PROCEDUH". :wacko:
My prayers have been flanswered. :cool:
Quote
$100 to Fly Through the Airport
By SCOTT MCCARTNEY
Hate the full-body scans, pat-downs and slow going at TSA airport security screening checkpoints? For $100, you can now bypass the hassle.
The Transportation Security Administration is rolling out expedited screening at big airports called "Precheck." It has special lanes for background-checked travelers, who can keep their shoes, belt and jacket on, leave laptops and liquids in carry-on bags and walk through a metal detector rather than a full-body scan. The process, now at two airlines and nine airports, is much like how screenings worked before the Sept. 11 attacks.
To qualify, frequent fliers must meet undisclosed TSA criteria and get invited in by the airlines. There is also a backdoor in. Approved travelers who are in the U.S. Customs and Border Protection's "Global Entry" program can transfer into Precheck using their Global Entry number.
"It's a completely different experience than what you're used to," said Matt Stegmeir, a platinum-level Delta Air Lines Inc. DAL +3.55%frequent flier who was invited into Precheck when it opened at his home airport, Minneapolis-St. Paul. Besides zipping through security screening quickly and easily, Mr. Stegmeir noticed another difference: TSA agents at the Precheck lane are usually smiling.
"It's really a jarring contrast. It reminds you just how much of a hassle the security procedures in place really are," he said.
Global Entry has been extremely popular with frequent international travelers. Approved travelers get to use a kiosk to enter the country rather than waiting in often-long lines to get their passports stamped and go through Customs inspection.
Consider that in January at Chicago's O'Hare International Airport, the average wait in line was 35 minutes between 4 and 5 p.m., and the longest wait was 137 minutes. The wait at Terminal 1 at New York's Kennedy International Airport averaged 44 minutes in January for people arriving between 10 and 11 a.m. Enrolling requires a $100 application fee for a background check, plus a brief interview with a Customs officer.
For domestic travel, Global Entry pays off because it gets you into Precheck. Once TSA announced in the fall that enrollment in Global Entry and CBP's other "trusted travel" programs (Nexus for frequent travel across the Canadian border and Sentri for frequent travel across the Mexican border) would get you into Precheck, applications for Global Entry took off.
In February, for example, 26,602 people applied, more than triple the number of applications in February 2011, according to CBP. And February applications were up 42% from January as more and more travelers catch on.
"We want as many people as possible in the program," said John Wagner, CBP's executive director of admissibility and passenger programs.
TSA says it also wants as many people as possible in Precheck, which is still in pilot-testing phase. Both agencies say the programs can enhance screening of people they know nothing about if they can move low-risk people who submit to background checks out of the main queues.
"We can reduce the size of the haystack when we are looking for that one-in-a-billion terrorist," said TSA Administrator John Pistole.
Mr. Pistole, an FBI veteran who took over TSA in 2010, said that by studying frequent-flier histories as well as conducting background checks, he's confident the U.S. now has the technology and the intelligence information to make less-rigorous, faster screening work. TSA has been trying to move to more "risk-based" security—something critics have suggested for many years.
Once in Precheck, TSA still checks names against terrorism watch lists before every flight, just as it does for other travelers. If a passenger is cleared for Precheck screening, a code is embedded in a traveler's boarding pass.
Precheck members usually get to use security lines set up for first-class and elite-level frequent fliers. But Precheck travelers actually don't know if they will get to use the easy screening until the TSA officer checking IDs actually scans the boarding pass. If the pass has the code, a Precheck passenger is steered to a separate screening lane for what amounts to old-style airport screening.
TSA says Precheck members are selected randomly for regular screening to enhance security. But that unpredictability irks frequent travelers. The agency doesn't make travelers go to the end of the regular screening line, however, but instead slips them into the front of the regular queue.
"I like Precheck, but it would be much more valuable to me if I were able to know before leaving for the airport whether or not I had Precheck approval for that day's flights," said Beth Allen, a University of Minnesota economist and frequent traveler.
Gary Kaminsky, who travels 100,000 miles a year domestically, says he's gotten Precheck screening on about 80% of his trips so far out of Los Angeles International Airport, his home base, on AMR Corp.'s American Airlines. "When it does work, it's phenomenal," he said. "It cuts security screening down to about 30 seconds."
For now, travelers say Precheck lanes are almost always empty—no waiting. In fact, Precheck may be making regular lines longer since equipment and officers are devoted to a little-used lane. Mr. Pistole said that will change as the program expands and the agency collects more data.
Currently, TSA is working with only two airlines, American and Delta, because they were able to handle computing requirements set by TSA for the frequent-flier aspect. Even if you get into Precheck through Global Entry, it will currently only work for you on American and Delta domestic flights at airports with Precheck lanes.
Also, Precheck lanes are in place only at nine airports. Currently, American passengers can use it in Dallas-Fort Worth, New York Kennedy, Los Angeles and Miami. Delta passengers have Precheck access in Atlanta, Detroit and Salt Lake City. Passengers on both airlines can use Precheck in Las Vegas and Minneapolis-St. Paul.
Later this month, Precheck is set to expand to Washington's Reagan National Airport for Delta passengers and certain members of the U.S. military, and Chicago O'Hare with American.
By the end of the year, Mr. Pistole said Precheck will be in place at 35 airports and six airlines, covering most major U.S. airports and airlines. Expansion will continue in 2013, but Precheck probably won't be available at all 450 commercial airports, since many have a small number of travelers each day. "The goal is to cover the broadest cross-section of travelers," he said.
Fuck that shit. That should be the goddamn default.
Quote from: Scipio on March 16, 2012, 06:03:37 PM
Quote from: Caliga on March 16, 2012, 06:40:30 AM
Quote from: Caliga on March 10, 2012, 06:19:00 AM
On Monday I'm going to beat my admin for forgetting to get me business class tickets... I had to stand in the 'general' security line with all the scum at Midway last night and it took like 45 minutes to clear security. :weep: When I got to the checkpoint some dumb bitch's shoes fell into the tub with my laptop and consequently the security lady bitched at me because "YOU DID NOT FOLLOW PROPAH PROCEDUH". :wacko:
My prayers have been flanswered. :cool:
Quote
$100 to Fly Through the Airport
By SCOTT MCCARTNEY
Hate the full-body scans, pat-downs and slow going at TSA airport security screening checkpoints? For $100, you can now bypass the hassle.
The Transportation Security Administration is rolling out expedited screening at big airports called "Precheck." It has special lanes for background-checked travelers, who can keep their shoes, belt and jacket on, leave laptops and liquids in carry-on bags and walk through a metal detector rather than a full-body scan. The process, now at two airlines and nine airports, is much like how screenings worked before the Sept. 11 attacks.
To qualify, frequent fliers must meet undisclosed TSA criteria and get invited in by the airlines. There is also a backdoor in. Approved travelers who are in the U.S. Customs and Border Protection's "Global Entry" program can transfer into Precheck using their Global Entry number.
"It's a completely different experience than what you're used to," said Matt Stegmeir, a platinum-level Delta Air Lines Inc. DAL +3.55%frequent flier who was invited into Precheck when it opened at his home airport, Minneapolis-St. Paul. Besides zipping through security screening quickly and easily, Mr. Stegmeir noticed another difference: TSA agents at the Precheck lane are usually smiling.
"It's really a jarring contrast. It reminds you just how much of a hassle the security procedures in place really are," he said.
Global Entry has been extremely popular with frequent international travelers. Approved travelers get to use a kiosk to enter the country rather than waiting in often-long lines to get their passports stamped and go through Customs inspection.
Consider that in January at Chicago's O'Hare International Airport, the average wait in line was 35 minutes between 4 and 5 p.m., and the longest wait was 137 minutes. The wait at Terminal 1 at New York's Kennedy International Airport averaged 44 minutes in January for people arriving between 10 and 11 a.m. Enrolling requires a $100 application fee for a background check, plus a brief interview with a Customs officer.
For domestic travel, Global Entry pays off because it gets you into Precheck. Once TSA announced in the fall that enrollment in Global Entry and CBP's other "trusted travel" programs (Nexus for frequent travel across the Canadian border and Sentri for frequent travel across the Mexican border) would get you into Precheck, applications for Global Entry took off.
In February, for example, 26,602 people applied, more than triple the number of applications in February 2011, according to CBP. And February applications were up 42% from January as more and more travelers catch on.
"We want as many people as possible in the program," said John Wagner, CBP's executive director of admissibility and passenger programs.
TSA says it also wants as many people as possible in Precheck, which is still in pilot-testing phase. Both agencies say the programs can enhance screening of people they know nothing about if they can move low-risk people who submit to background checks out of the main queues.
"We can reduce the size of the haystack when we are looking for that one-in-a-billion terrorist," said TSA Administrator John Pistole.
Mr. Pistole, an FBI veteran who took over TSA in 2010, said that by studying frequent-flier histories as well as conducting background checks, he's confident the U.S. now has the technology and the intelligence information to make less-rigorous, faster screening work. TSA has been trying to move to more "risk-based" security—something critics have suggested for many years.
Once in Precheck, TSA still checks names against terrorism watch lists before every flight, just as it does for other travelers. If a passenger is cleared for Precheck screening, a code is embedded in a traveler's boarding pass.
Precheck members usually get to use security lines set up for first-class and elite-level frequent fliers. But Precheck travelers actually don't know if they will get to use the easy screening until the TSA officer checking IDs actually scans the boarding pass. If the pass has the code, a Precheck passenger is steered to a separate screening lane for what amounts to old-style airport screening.
TSA says Precheck members are selected randomly for regular screening to enhance security. But that unpredictability irks frequent travelers. The agency doesn't make travelers go to the end of the regular screening line, however, but instead slips them into the front of the regular queue.
"I like Precheck, but it would be much more valuable to me if I were able to know before leaving for the airport whether or not I had Precheck approval for that day's flights," said Beth Allen, a University of Minnesota economist and frequent traveler.
Gary Kaminsky, who travels 100,000 miles a year domestically, says he's gotten Precheck screening on about 80% of his trips so far out of Los Angeles International Airport, his home base, on AMR Corp.'s American Airlines. "When it does work, it's phenomenal," he said. "It cuts security screening down to about 30 seconds."
For now, travelers say Precheck lanes are almost always empty—no waiting. In fact, Precheck may be making regular lines longer since equipment and officers are devoted to a little-used lane. Mr. Pistole said that will change as the program expands and the agency collects more data.
Currently, TSA is working with only two airlines, American and Delta, because they were able to handle computing requirements set by TSA for the frequent-flier aspect. Even if you get into Precheck through Global Entry, it will currently only work for you on American and Delta domestic flights at airports with Precheck lanes.
Also, Precheck lanes are in place only at nine airports. Currently, American passengers can use it in Dallas-Fort Worth, New York Kennedy, Los Angeles and Miami. Delta passengers have Precheck access in Atlanta, Detroit and Salt Lake City. Passengers on both airlines can use Precheck in Las Vegas and Minneapolis-St. Paul.
Later this month, Precheck is set to expand to Washington's Reagan National Airport for Delta passengers and certain members of the U.S. military, and Chicago O'Hare with American.
By the end of the year, Mr. Pistole said Precheck will be in place at 35 airports and six airlines, covering most major U.S. airports and airlines. Expansion will continue in 2013, but Precheck probably won't be available at all 450 commercial airports, since many have a small number of travelers each day. "The goal is to cover the broadest cross-section of travelers," he said.
Fuck that shit. That should be the goddamn default.
No one has flown a passanger jet into a building since they increased airport security.
Quote from: sbr on March 16, 2012, 06:05:25 PM
Quote from: Scipio on March 16, 2012, 06:03:37 PM
Quote from: Caliga on March 16, 2012, 06:40:30 AM
Quote from: Caliga on March 10, 2012, 06:19:00 AM
On Monday I'm going to beat my admin for forgetting to get me business class tickets... I had to stand in the 'general' security line with all the scum at Midway last night and it took like 45 minutes to clear security. :weep: When I got to the checkpoint some dumb bitch's shoes fell into the tub with my laptop and consequently the security lady bitched at me because "YOU DID NOT FOLLOW PROPAH PROCEDUH". :wacko:
My prayers have been flanswered. :cool:
Quote
$100 to Fly Through the Airport
By SCOTT MCCARTNEY
Hate the full-body scans, pat-downs and slow going at TSA airport security screening checkpoints? For $100, you can now bypass the hassle.
The Transportation Security Administration is rolling out expedited screening at big airports called "Precheck." It has special lanes for background-checked travelers, who can keep their shoes, belt and jacket on, leave laptops and liquids in carry-on bags and walk through a metal detector rather than a full-body scan. The process, now at two airlines and nine airports, is much like how screenings worked before the Sept. 11 attacks.
To qualify, frequent fliers must meet undisclosed TSA criteria and get invited in by the airlines. There is also a backdoor in. Approved travelers who are in the U.S. Customs and Border Protection's "Global Entry" program can transfer into Precheck using their Global Entry number.
"It's a completely different experience than what you're used to," said Matt Stegmeir, a platinum-level Delta Air Lines Inc. DAL +3.55%frequent flier who was invited into Precheck when it opened at his home airport, Minneapolis-St. Paul. Besides zipping through security screening quickly and easily, Mr. Stegmeir noticed another difference: TSA agents at the Precheck lane are usually smiling.
"It's really a jarring contrast. It reminds you just how much of a hassle the security procedures in place really are," he said.
Global Entry has been extremely popular with frequent international travelers. Approved travelers get to use a kiosk to enter the country rather than waiting in often-long lines to get their passports stamped and go through Customs inspection.
Consider that in January at Chicago's O'Hare International Airport, the average wait in line was 35 minutes between 4 and 5 p.m., and the longest wait was 137 minutes. The wait at Terminal 1 at New York's Kennedy International Airport averaged 44 minutes in January for people arriving between 10 and 11 a.m. Enrolling requires a $100 application fee for a background check, plus a brief interview with a Customs officer.
For domestic travel, Global Entry pays off because it gets you into Precheck. Once TSA announced in the fall that enrollment in Global Entry and CBP's other "trusted travel" programs (Nexus for frequent travel across the Canadian border and Sentri for frequent travel across the Mexican border) would get you into Precheck, applications for Global Entry took off.
In February, for example, 26,602 people applied, more than triple the number of applications in February 2011, according to CBP. And February applications were up 42% from January as more and more travelers catch on.
"We want as many people as possible in the program," said John Wagner, CBP's executive director of admissibility and passenger programs.
TSA says it also wants as many people as possible in Precheck, which is still in pilot-testing phase. Both agencies say the programs can enhance screening of people they know nothing about if they can move low-risk people who submit to background checks out of the main queues.
"We can reduce the size of the haystack when we are looking for that one-in-a-billion terrorist," said TSA Administrator John Pistole.
Mr. Pistole, an FBI veteran who took over TSA in 2010, said that by studying frequent-flier histories as well as conducting background checks, he's confident the U.S. now has the technology and the intelligence information to make less-rigorous, faster screening work. TSA has been trying to move to more "risk-based" security—something critics have suggested for many years.
Once in Precheck, TSA still checks names against terrorism watch lists before every flight, just as it does for other travelers. If a passenger is cleared for Precheck screening, a code is embedded in a traveler's boarding pass.
Precheck members usually get to use security lines set up for first-class and elite-level frequent fliers. But Precheck travelers actually don't know if they will get to use the easy screening until the TSA officer checking IDs actually scans the boarding pass. If the pass has the code, a Precheck passenger is steered to a separate screening lane for what amounts to old-style airport screening.
TSA says Precheck members are selected randomly for regular screening to enhance security. But that unpredictability irks frequent travelers. The agency doesn't make travelers go to the end of the regular screening line, however, but instead slips them into the front of the regular queue.
"I like Precheck, but it would be much more valuable to me if I were able to know before leaving for the airport whether or not I had Precheck approval for that day's flights," said Beth Allen, a University of Minnesota economist and frequent traveler.
Gary Kaminsky, who travels 100,000 miles a year domestically, says he's gotten Precheck screening on about 80% of his trips so far out of Los Angeles International Airport, his home base, on AMR Corp.'s American Airlines. "When it does work, it's phenomenal," he said. "It cuts security screening down to about 30 seconds."
For now, travelers say Precheck lanes are almost always empty—no waiting. In fact, Precheck may be making regular lines longer since equipment and officers are devoted to a little-used lane. Mr. Pistole said that will change as the program expands and the agency collects more data.
Currently, TSA is working with only two airlines, American and Delta, because they were able to handle computing requirements set by TSA for the frequent-flier aspect. Even if you get into Precheck through Global Entry, it will currently only work for you on American and Delta domestic flights at airports with Precheck lanes.
Also, Precheck lanes are in place only at nine airports. Currently, American passengers can use it in Dallas-Fort Worth, New York Kennedy, Los Angeles and Miami. Delta passengers have Precheck access in Atlanta, Detroit and Salt Lake City. Passengers on both airlines can use Precheck in Las Vegas and Minneapolis-St. Paul.
Later this month, Precheck is set to expand to Washington's Reagan National Airport for Delta passengers and certain members of the U.S. military, and Chicago O'Hare with American.
By the end of the year, Mr. Pistole said Precheck will be in place at 35 airports and six airlines, covering most major U.S. airports and airlines. Expansion will continue in 2013, but Precheck probably won't be available at all 450 commercial airports, since many have a small number of travelers each day. "The goal is to cover the broadest cross-section of travelers," he said.
Fuck that shit. That should be the goddamn default.
No one has flown a passanger jet into a building since they increased airport security.
No airline passenger has been mauled by a tiger in an airport since they increased airport security theater performances. No Muslim has been elected president since they increased airport security theater performances. I have not flown overseas since they increased airport security theater performances. Turkey has not joined the EU since they increased airport security theater performances. Before they increased airport security theater performances, in the entire history of fixed-wing aviation, only three passenger jets had been successfully deliberately flown into buildings.
On a statistical basis, those three planes were an insufficient reason to increase the level of bullshit security theater performances, and everyone knows it. There is no independently verifiable evidence that the security theater performances have improved airport security.
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on March 16, 2012, 05:47:55 PM
Did you ever actually have a hot dog or what?
Nope. I was going to get dinner at this 'Gold Coast Dogs' place at Midway but my boss insisted on grabbing a table for us at the Harry Caray's there, which annoyed me because I'd just eaten at the real Harry Caray's the night before. I'll get one next time I'm in Chicagoland.
Time before last I was in Chicago, this dude up there was bitching about how whenever he flies he always gets special extra screening, pat-downs, etc.
I was like "Hm, I wonder why they single you out, Rashid." :ph34r:
Quote from: Scipio on March 16, 2012, 06:16:56 PM
Quote from: sbr on March 16, 2012, 06:05:25 PM
Quote from: Scipio on March 16, 2012, 06:03:37 PM
Quote from: Caliga on March 16, 2012, 06:40:30 AM
Quote from: Caliga on March 10, 2012, 06:19:00 AM
On Monday I'm going to beat my admin for forgetting to get me business class tickets... I had to stand in the 'general' security line with all the scum at Midway last night and it took like 45 minutes to clear security. :weep: When I got to the checkpoint some dumb bitch's shoes fell into the tub with my laptop and consequently the security lady bitched at me because "YOU DID NOT FOLLOW PROPAH PROCEDUH". :wacko:
My prayers have been flanswered. :cool:
Quote
$100 to Fly Through the Airport
By SCOTT MCCARTNEY
Hate the full-body scans, pat-downs and slow going at TSA airport security screening checkpoints? For $100, you can now bypass the hassle.
The Transportation Security Administration is rolling out expedited screening at big airports called "Precheck." It has special lanes for background-checked travelers, who can keep their shoes, belt and jacket on, leave laptops and liquids in carry-on bags and walk through a metal detector rather than a full-body scan. The process, now at two airlines and nine airports, is much like how screenings worked before the Sept. 11 attacks.
To qualify, frequent fliers must meet undisclosed TSA criteria and get invited in by the airlines. There is also a backdoor in. Approved travelers who are in the U.S. Customs and Border Protection's "Global Entry" program can transfer into Precheck using their Global Entry number.
"It's a completely different experience than what you're used to," said Matt Stegmeir, a platinum-level Delta Air Lines Inc. DAL +3.55%frequent flier who was invited into Precheck when it opened at his home airport, Minneapolis-St. Paul. Besides zipping through security screening quickly and easily, Mr. Stegmeir noticed another difference: TSA agents at the Precheck lane are usually smiling.
"It's really a jarring contrast. It reminds you just how much of a hassle the security procedures in place really are," he said.
Global Entry has been extremely popular with frequent international travelers. Approved travelers get to use a kiosk to enter the country rather than waiting in often-long lines to get their passports stamped and go through Customs inspection.
Consider that in January at Chicago's O'Hare International Airport, the average wait in line was 35 minutes between 4 and 5 p.m., and the longest wait was 137 minutes. The wait at Terminal 1 at New York's Kennedy International Airport averaged 44 minutes in January for people arriving between 10 and 11 a.m. Enrolling requires a $100 application fee for a background check, plus a brief interview with a Customs officer.
For domestic travel, Global Entry pays off because it gets you into Precheck. Once TSA announced in the fall that enrollment in Global Entry and CBP's other "trusted travel" programs (Nexus for frequent travel across the Canadian border and Sentri for frequent travel across the Mexican border) would get you into Precheck, applications for Global Entry took off.
In February, for example, 26,602 people applied, more than triple the number of applications in February 2011, according to CBP. And February applications were up 42% from January as more and more travelers catch on.
"We want as many people as possible in the program," said John Wagner, CBP's executive director of admissibility and passenger programs.
TSA says it also wants as many people as possible in Precheck, which is still in pilot-testing phase. Both agencies say the programs can enhance screening of people they know nothing about if they can move low-risk people who submit to background checks out of the main queues.
"We can reduce the size of the haystack when we are looking for that one-in-a-billion terrorist," said TSA Administrator John Pistole.
Mr. Pistole, an FBI veteran who took over TSA in 2010, said that by studying frequent-flier histories as well as conducting background checks, he's confident the U.S. now has the technology and the intelligence information to make less-rigorous, faster screening work. TSA has been trying to move to more "risk-based" security—something critics have suggested for many years.
Once in Precheck, TSA still checks names against terrorism watch lists before every flight, just as it does for other travelers. If a passenger is cleared for Precheck screening, a code is embedded in a traveler's boarding pass.
Precheck members usually get to use security lines set up for first-class and elite-level frequent fliers. But Precheck travelers actually don't know if they will get to use the easy screening until the TSA officer checking IDs actually scans the boarding pass. If the pass has the code, a Precheck passenger is steered to a separate screening lane for what amounts to old-style airport screening.
TSA says Precheck members are selected randomly for regular screening to enhance security. But that unpredictability irks frequent travelers. The agency doesn't make travelers go to the end of the regular screening line, however, but instead slips them into the front of the regular queue.
"I like Precheck, but it would be much more valuable to me if I were able to know before leaving for the airport whether or not I had Precheck approval for that day's flights," said Beth Allen, a University of Minnesota economist and frequent traveler.
Gary Kaminsky, who travels 100,000 miles a year domestically, says he's gotten Precheck screening on about 80% of his trips so far out of Los Angeles International Airport, his home base, on AMR Corp.'s American Airlines. "When it does work, it's phenomenal," he said. "It cuts security screening down to about 30 seconds."
For now, travelers say Precheck lanes are almost always empty—no waiting. In fact, Precheck may be making regular lines longer since equipment and officers are devoted to a little-used lane. Mr. Pistole said that will change as the program expands and the agency collects more data.
Currently, TSA is working with only two airlines, American and Delta, because they were able to handle computing requirements set by TSA for the frequent-flier aspect. Even if you get into Precheck through Global Entry, it will currently only work for you on American and Delta domestic flights at airports with Precheck lanes.
Also, Precheck lanes are in place only at nine airports. Currently, American passengers can use it in Dallas-Fort Worth, New York Kennedy, Los Angeles and Miami. Delta passengers have Precheck access in Atlanta, Detroit and Salt Lake City. Passengers on both airlines can use Precheck in Las Vegas and Minneapolis-St. Paul.
Later this month, Precheck is set to expand to Washington's Reagan National Airport for Delta passengers and certain members of the U.S. military, and Chicago O'Hare with American.
By the end of the year, Mr. Pistole said Precheck will be in place at 35 airports and six airlines, covering most major U.S. airports and airlines. Expansion will continue in 2013, but Precheck probably won't be available at all 450 commercial airports, since many have a small number of travelers each day. "The goal is to cover the broadest cross-section of travelers," he said.
Fuck that shit. That should be the goddamn default.
No one has flown a passanger jet into a building since they increased airport security.
No airline passenger has been mauled by a tiger in an airport since they increased airport security theater performances. No Muslim has been elected president since they increased airport security theater performances. I have not flown overseas since they increased airport security theater performances. Turkey has not joined the EU since they increased airport security theater performances. Before they increased airport security theater performances, in the entire history of fixed-wing aviation, only three passenger jets had been successfully deliberately flown into buildings.
On a statistical basis, those three planes were an insufficient reason to increase the level of bullshit security theater performances, and everyone knows it. There is no independently verifiable evidence that the security theater performances have improved airport security.
I have nothing to add at this time.
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on March 16, 2012, 05:47:55 PM
Did you ever actually have a hot dog or what?
It's about the process, not the result.