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Title: Siege Update
Post by: Siege on April 28, 2011, 05:08:04 PM
Well, it is official. I am in the 101st Airborne Division, The Screaming Eagles. I'm in the 3rd Brigade, The Rakkasans, in the 3-187th Infantry Battalion, Iron Rakkasans.
Now, guess what company and platoon I am.
Yep, once again I am in the Battalion's Reconanssance Platoon, as the Battalion's senior sniper, as the sniper section leader. My new call-sign, is Raptor Leader. *chicken dance folllows*
When the Battalion CSM (command sergeant major) saw my ERB he was like, "I need your ass in Recon!".
My service record with the US Army alone, gives me an oportunity to be at the point of the spear wherever I go.

You go to war, but combat comes to you. You have to place yourself at the decision point, in the platoon that will make contact first, the platoon that will hunt down the enemy high value targets, where you know shit will happen, so you can make a diference.

I don't like my call sign though. I'm gonna change it for Raptor 1, or something. I like numbers in call signs.

So, the Recon Platoon is being reset, so I;m gonna make a selection course for all volunteers in the Battalion that want to be snipers. I'm gonna mold them the right way, train them and send them to Sniper School. Half of them will fail, but that's the way Sniper School is. Of the 40 dudes in my class only 16 graduated. They certainly don't make it easy. Too much is at stake.

Anyway, I got here to Fort Campbell on April 5, I wasted a week at the Reception Company, doing the in-processing to my new duty station, and here I am.

Next deployment?
Its gonna be on the second half of 2012. My wife is happy, I am pissed.
I fear the war in Afghanistan might be over before I get an oportunity to deploy and wage war on Islam once again. A diferent war, a diferent country, the same old smelly enemy.

And Pesach is over and I can drink beer again!

Title: Re: Siege Update
Post by: Jacob on April 28, 2011, 05:11:38 PM
I think you should change your call-sign to "Warrior Jew" if you can.

Anyhow, you'll enjoy training those guys, and don't worry... there'll always be a war going on somewhere.
Title: Re: Siege Update
Post by: Razgovory on April 28, 2011, 05:13:24 PM
Is the 101st the ones that jump out of airplanes or the ones that ride helicopters?
Title: Re: Siege Update
Post by: Siege on April 28, 2011, 05:14:22 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on April 28, 2011, 05:13:24 PM
Is the 101st the ones that jump out of airplanes or the ones that ride helicopters?

Helicopters.
Title: Re: Siege Update
Post by: Siege on April 28, 2011, 05:14:53 PM
Or more properly, Air Assault!

Title: Re: Siege Update
Post by: crazy canuck on April 28, 2011, 05:17:44 PM
What is an ERB?
Title: Re: Siege Update
Post by: Eddie Teach on April 28, 2011, 05:27:07 PM
Quote from: Jacob on April 28, 2011, 05:11:38 PM
I think you should change your call-sign to "Warrior Jew" if you can.

Should reference Masada IMO.
Title: Re: Siege Update
Post by: crazy canuck on April 28, 2011, 05:27:45 PM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on April 28, 2011, 05:27:07 PM
Quote from: Jacob on April 28, 2011, 05:11:38 PM
I think you should change your call-sign to "Warrior Jew" if you can.

Should reference Masada IMO.

Masada 1


Perfect.
Title: Re: Siege Update
Post by: Jacob on April 28, 2011, 05:28:40 PM
Nah, they'll just think he's driving a Japanese car or something.
Title: Re: Siege Update
Post by: Caliga on April 28, 2011, 05:29:29 PM
Fort Campbell, eh?

We should meet up.  But promise not to kill me first. :blush:

P.S. I love the Jews. :cool:
Title: Re: Siege Update
Post by: katmai on April 28, 2011, 05:30:11 PM
Yeah the 101 isn't as cool as It use to be :(
Title: Re: Siege Update
Post by: crazy canuck on April 28, 2011, 05:33:44 PM
Quote from: Jacob on April 28, 2011, 05:28:40 PM
Nah, they'll just think he's driving a Japanese car or something.

:lol:
Title: Re: Siege Update
Post by: Caliga on April 28, 2011, 05:37:02 PM
Can he go by 'Messiah'?  I think that's a good name for a sniper.

"Messiah, Messiah, save me!"

"Even your god cannot save you now, infidel.  Inshallah!"

*boom HEADSHOT*

"Thanks, Messiah.  Over."
Title: Re: Siege Update
Post by: The Minsky Moment on April 28, 2011, 05:37:05 PM
Quote from: Siege on April 28, 2011, 05:08:04 PM
Well, it is official. I am in the 101st Airborne Division, The Screaming Eagles. I'm in the 3rd Brigade, The Rakkasans, in the 3-187th Infantry Battalion, Iron Rakkasans.
Now, guess what company and platoon I am.
Yep, once again I am in the Battalion's Reconanssance Platoon, as the Battalion's senior sniper, as the sniper section leader. My new call-sign, is Raptor Leader. OPSEC Buster

fixed
When you get your new call sign, please do not reveal it here or anywhere else.
Title: Re: Siege Update
Post by: Siege on April 28, 2011, 05:40:10 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on April 28, 2011, 05:17:44 PM
What is an ERB?

Enlisted Record Brief.
The short form of enlisted soldiers service record.
ORB is the same for commissioned officers.


The ERB have all the relevant dates, schools attended, deployments, medals, etc.

It does not contain my confirmed kills, total number of combat missions, total number of air assault missions, or any tactical details.
Those you have to keep yourself in the form of sworn statements (DA Form 2823).
The Army does not keep records of confirmed kills anymore.
Sniper School does, but they cannot be submited by you. They have to be submitted by your Battalion S1 with the Battalion Commander's signature and contain all the DA Form 2823s related to the combat action in question.
Of my 22 kills with the US Army, only 16 have been actually atributed to me by sowrn statements by witnesses, and only 9 have been accepted by Sniper School as "confirmed kills".

Now, keep in mind that by Army regulations we have to make sworn statements for any action in which rounds were fired, wheather we killed anybody or not. In reality we take short-cuts and only make sworn statements when a body was recovered or a prisioner taken. That means that many firefights go unrecorded. But to have a "confirmed kill" by Sniper Records, you need an officer to witness your kill.

In general, when the firefights are too isolated or far too intense, the number of kills go unrecorded.
High intensity firefights means that nobody knows for sure who killed whom. They go recorded in general numbers but rarely with enough details to be able to use the sworn statements for confirmed kills.

Its the nature of the beast. We cannot change it.
Title: Re: Siege Update
Post by: Razgovory on April 28, 2011, 05:44:37 PM
I doubt you have to worry about the war ending any time soon.
Title: Re: Siege Update
Post by: Siege on April 28, 2011, 05:48:08 PM
Hopefully it will be over in Iraq.
My last deployment there was quite a waste of my time and of the years of active duty infantry I have left in me.
I will be 40 this year.
Running 5 miles in 40 minutes is not that funny anymore.

I definitively do not want ot go back to Iraq.

Title: Re: Siege Update
Post by: garbon on April 28, 2011, 05:50:43 PM
I really like this thread title. It is concise.
Title: Re: Siege Update
Post by: Eddie Teach on April 28, 2011, 05:52:16 PM
Quote from: Siege on April 28, 2011, 05:48:08 PM
I will be 40 this year.
Running 5 miles in 40 minutes is not that funny anymore.

:huh:

The older you get the funnier it is.  :P

Course, I haven't been able to run 8 minute miles since I was a teenager.  :blush:
Title: Re: Siege Update
Post by: Siege on April 28, 2011, 06:02:57 PM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on April 28, 2011, 05:52:16 PM
Quote from: Siege on April 28, 2011, 05:48:08 PM
I will be 40 this year.
Running 5 miles in 40 minutes is not that funny anymore.

:huh:

The older you get the funnier it is.  :P

Course, I haven't been able to run 8 minute miles since I was a teenager.  :blush:

I can still run 2 miles at better than 8 minute miles.
The problem is keeping up that speed after 20 minutes or so.
Age is not something to joke about.
It really slows you down quite a bit.

Lets just put it this way. If i had one wish, I would not ask for billions, but for being 18 again.

I am an old man trying to rule a young men world.

We all have diferent priorities. Some, or rather most, measure success in coin.
I measure success in something else.

But I confess to you that sometimes I ask myself wheather I measure success like this because it is what I value or because this is  the place where decissions I took long ago led me to and I have no other choice left.
Title: Re: Siege Update
Post by: Legbiter on April 28, 2011, 06:06:09 PM
Fuck your wife brainless every other day and watch that you don't vegetate skillwise. I've a feeling you're about to ding at level 40.
Title: Re: Siege Update
Post by: Habbaku on April 28, 2011, 06:08:26 PM
Quote from: Jacob on April 28, 2011, 05:28:40 PM
Nah, they'll just think he's driving a Japanese car or something.

:lol:
Title: Re: Siege Update
Post by: Siege on April 28, 2011, 06:29:34 PM
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on April 28, 2011, 05:37:05 PM
Quote from: Siege on April 28, 2011, 05:08:04 PM
Well, it is official. I am in the 101st Airborne Division, The Screaming Eagles. I'm in the 3rd Brigade, The Rakkasans, in the 3-187th Infantry Battalion, Iron Rakkasans.
Now, guess what company and platoon I am.
Yep, once again I am in the Battalion's Reconanssance Platoon, as the Battalion's senior sniper, as the sniper section leader. My new call-sign, is Raptor Leader. OPSEC Buster

fixed
When you get your new call sign, please do not reveal it here or anywhere else.

It is not that big of a deal.
I guarantee you that there more than one Raptor in the US Army.
Title: Re: Siege Update
Post by: Legbiter on April 28, 2011, 06:36:48 PM
Quote from: Siege on April 28, 2011, 06:29:34 PM

It is not that big of a deal.
I guarantee you that there more than one Raptor in the US Army.

As long as it isn't anything horribly Americana like Steel Rain or Knight, Raptor don't sound half as bad as it could.
Title: Re: Siege Update
Post by: Razgovory on April 28, 2011, 06:39:59 PM
I like Knight better then Raptor.  Knight could be someone's last name though.  Do they let you pick your call sign?  You should be "Pinky" or "Driftwood".
Title: Re: Siege Update
Post by: Legbiter on April 28, 2011, 06:44:43 PM
My nomination for Siegy's nick: Curmudgeon 1.

Sounds almost affable like your grandfather's brother, except he'll blow your head off if you even THINK about looking at that AK.

Second suggestion would be: Grumbler 1.  :hug:

Although, that might be too meta for Siegy.
Title: Re: Siege Update
Post by: CountDeMoney on April 28, 2011, 06:49:29 PM
Quote from: Jacob on April 28, 2011, 05:28:40 PM
Nah, they'll just think he's driving a Japanese car or something.

LOL And introducing the new 2012 Mazda Masada
Title: Re: Siege Update
Post by: Siege on April 28, 2011, 06:55:15 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on April 28, 2011, 06:39:59 PM
I like Knight better then Raptor.  Knight could be someone's last name though.  Do they let you pick your call sign?  You should be "Pinky" or "Driftwood".

As part of the Recon platoon, my call-sign have to start with either "R" for Recon or "S" for Scout.
I used to be Stalker 4. (Scout platoon 4th squad leader, meaning the Sniper section. Line infantry platoons have the 4th squad as the weapons squad)

Typical Recon call signs are Ripper, Rover, Rock, Rocker, Raptor, Raiper, etc.
Scout call signs are Stalker, Shadow, Shaver, Slim, Snake, etc.

Sniper call signs can be anything, typically a two word call-sign, but starting with "S" is preferred.
Most famous ones back during the Surge were "Spider Monkey" and "Shake and Bake".

These two teams ruled the nights of Baghdad from APR 2007 to SEP 2007.
Title: Re: Siege Update
Post by: katmai on April 28, 2011, 07:01:24 PM
Schmuck 1!
Title: Re: Siege Update
Post by: Zoupa on April 28, 2011, 07:01:48 PM
lol shake and bake. Gold.
Title: Re: Siege Update
Post by: Legbiter on April 28, 2011, 07:02:34 PM
Quote from: Siege on April 28, 2011, 06:55:15 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on April 28, 2011, 06:39:59 PM
I like Knight better then Raptor.  Knight could be someone's last name though.  Do they let you pick your call sign?  You should be "Pinky" or "Driftwood".

As part of the Recon platoon, my call-sign have to start with either "R" for Recon or "S" for Scout.
I used to be Stalker 4. (Scout platoon 4th squad leader, meaning the Sniper section. Line infantry platoons have the 4th squad as the weapons squad)

Typical Recon call signs are Ripper, Rover, Rock, Rocker, Raptor, Raiper, etc.
Scout call signs are Stalker, Shadow, Shaver, Slim, Snake, etc.

Sniper call signs can be anything, typically a two word call-sign, but starting with "S" is preferred.
Most famous ones back during the Surge were "Spider Monkey" and "Shake and Bake".

These two teams ruled the nights of Baghdad from APR 2007 to SEP 2007.

Pick 3+ candidate names you could theoretically operate under, along with the Jaron option and make a poll thread.  :showoff:
Title: Re: Siege Update
Post by: Caliga on April 28, 2011, 07:07:52 PM
Scooby Doo?
Title: Re: Siege Update
Post by: Eddie Teach on April 28, 2011, 07:10:01 PM
Schmuck
Schmiel
Stupe
Spaz
Shortie

Retard
Rosepetal
Ragamuffin
Runny Nose
Rom-com

Feel free to use any of these.  :P
Title: Re: Siege Update
Post by: Siege on April 28, 2011, 07:12:20 PM
I'll go for Retard 1.

Title: Re: Siege Update
Post by: Caliga on April 28, 2011, 07:15:45 PM
Skillet Corn?

Striped Skunk?
Title: Re: Siege Update
Post by: Viking on April 28, 2011, 07:17:07 PM
Jewfro 1?
Title: Re: Siege Update
Post by: Razgovory on April 28, 2011, 07:25:04 PM
Shyster
Title: Re: Siege Update
Post by: Siege on April 28, 2011, 07:28:09 PM
Slargos 1?

Title: Re: Siege Update
Post by: Caliga on April 28, 2011, 07:31:20 PM
Oh, I know: Slave 1  :cool:
Title: Re: Siege Update
Post by: Neil on April 28, 2011, 07:35:06 PM
Quote from: Siege on April 28, 2011, 06:29:34 PM
It is not that big of a deal.
I guarantee you that there more than one Raptor in the US Army.
Yeah, but when you go up for war crimes and we hear the commo recording of how Raptor Leader is raping some little girl, we'll know it's you.
Title: Re: Siege Update
Post by: Siege on April 28, 2011, 07:39:41 PM
Quote from: Neil on April 28, 2011, 07:35:06 PM
Quote from: Siege on April 28, 2011, 06:29:34 PM
It is not that big of a deal.
I guarantee you that there more than one Raptor in the US Army.
Yeah, but when you go up for war crimes and we hear the commo recording of how Raptor Leader is raping some little girl, we'll know it's you.

I am definitively not gonna use Raptor Leader.
Sounds too Holywood to me.


Title: Re: Siege Update
Post by: Razgovory on April 28, 2011, 07:47:40 PM
Shyster is a good one for you.  It's often used for Jews.

EDIT:  Either that or Shylock.
Title: Re: Siege Update
Post by: Siege on April 28, 2011, 07:58:09 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on April 28, 2011, 07:47:40 PM
Shyster is a good one for you.  It's often used for Jews.

EDIT:  Either that or Shylock.

I don;t like Shylock.
Too much of a coward for my taste.

I like Samson. I like Samson very much.
With the exception that he married a cannaite woman and use the jaw of a donkey as a weapon. (Non-kosher to touch)

But at the last moment, when for his sins he was blinded, he asked for one more chance, not to live, but to bring down his ENEMIES with him. To die surrounded by the dead bodies of his enemies. Shomkoh till the end.

Title: Re: Siege Update
Post by: Ed Anger on April 28, 2011, 08:02:05 PM
Saul.
Title: Re: Siege Update
Post by: Siege on April 28, 2011, 08:07:16 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on April 28, 2011, 08:02:05 PM
Saul.

Ha. Too funny.
Don't forget my family descend from the House of Daavid.
By extension the House of Judah.
The House of Sefarad.

Unlike all these Ashkenazi dudes mixed with slavs.

Title: Re: Siege Update
Post by: Siege on April 28, 2011, 08:19:23 PM
Rakkasans!


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/187th_Infantry_Regiment_(United_States)

Title: Re: Siege Update
Post by: citizen k on April 28, 2011, 08:35:10 PM
Quote from: Siege on April 28, 2011, 08:19:23 PM
Rakkasans!


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/187th_Infantry_Regiment_(United_States)


falling down umbrella men


Title: Re: Siege Update
Post by: Siege on April 28, 2011, 08:46:42 PM
Yep. But Rakkasans sounds powerful in english.
Like Rock or something.

Title: Re: Siege Update
Post by: Admiral Yi on April 28, 2011, 08:48:00 PM
In English Rakkasans sounds like something other than English.
Title: Re: Siege Update
Post by: Siege on April 28, 2011, 08:54:48 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on April 28, 2011, 08:48:00 PM
In English Rakkasans sounds like something other than English.

Come on. Get real.

What the first thing that comes up in your mind when you hear Rakkasans?
Did you know that it is the only US Army unit named by the enemy?

Also, Charlie called the 101st the Chicken Soldiers, because there were no eagles in Viet Nam.

Screaming Chickens is a common phrase heard around here.

Title: Re: Siege Update
Post by: Grey Fox on April 28, 2011, 08:59:29 PM
:cheers:
Title: Re: Siege Update
Post by: Zeus on April 28, 2011, 09:01:22 PM
Ripyouanew 1?
Title: Re: Siege Update
Post by: Siege on April 28, 2011, 09:03:29 PM
Quote from: Zeus on April 28, 2011, 09:01:22 PM
Ripyouanew 1?

Who The Fuck Are You? (tm)
Title: Re: Siege Update
Post by: Zeus on April 28, 2011, 09:05:33 PM
A relatively new poster.
Title: Re: Siege Update
Post by: Siege on April 28, 2011, 09:07:13 PM
Quote from: Zeus on April 28, 2011, 09:05:33 PM
A relatively new poster.

I hate your avatar.
It reminds me of Kagemusha, by Akira Kurosawa.
Title: Re: Siege Update
Post by: Admiral Yi on April 28, 2011, 09:07:44 PM
Quote from: Siege on April 28, 2011, 08:54:48 PM
What the first thing that comes up in your mind when you hear Rakkasans?

Rastafarians, then mama-san.
Title: Re: Siege Update
Post by: Siege on April 28, 2011, 09:10:00 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on April 28, 2011, 09:07:44 PM
Quote from: Siege on April 28, 2011, 08:54:48 PM
What the first thing that comes up in your mind when you hear Rakkasans?

Rastafarians, then mama-san.



You disappoint me.
Rakkasans sounds like Rock or Ruck, either one is a powerfull sound in englese.
Title: Re: Siege Update
Post by: Alcibiades on April 28, 2011, 09:16:20 PM
Grats turd.   Maybe I'll make my way down there before you deploy.


And why don't you make yourself useful and go SF or something already, you old bastard.  Keep touting the infantry, but you know SF is where it's at, and what you really want to do/where you'd see the action.  Do it pussy.


oh yeah:

Quote
That means that many firefights go unrecorded. But to have a "confirmed kill" by Sniper Records, you need an officer to witness your kill.

:nelson:
Title: Re: Siege Update
Post by: CountDeMoney on April 28, 2011, 09:26:52 PM
Siegy's call sign should be Goose, so he can talk to people.
Title: Re: Siege Update
Post by: Siege on April 28, 2011, 09:35:00 PM
Quote from: Alcibiades on April 28, 2011, 09:16:20 PM
Grats turd.   Maybe I'll make my way down there before you deploy.


And why don't you make yourself useful and go SF or something already, you old bastard.  Keep touting the infantry, but you know SF is where it's at, and what you really want to do/where you'd see the action.  Do it pussy.


oh yeah:

Quote
That means that many firefights go unrecorded. But to have a "confirmed kill" by Sniper Records, you need an officer to witness your kill.

:nelson:

Faggot, I can't run long distances by Ranger standards.
Do you really think I can pass SF selection?
By the way, do you have your ranger tab already?
You know you ain;t going anywhere as an infantry officer without your tab.

Are you planning to be a Fobbit?
Title: Re: Siege Update
Post by: CountDeMoney on April 28, 2011, 09:36:00 PM
You really should call him "sir", you know.  It's not just polite, it's regulations.
Title: Re: Siege Update
Post by: Siege on April 28, 2011, 09:39:24 PM
Quote from: Alcibiades on April 28, 2011, 09:16:20 PM
oh yeah:

Quote
That means that many firefights go unrecorded. But to have a "confirmed kill" by Sniper Records, you need an officer to witness your kill.

:nelson:

So waht?

You still gay in my eyes.
I need you to confirm my kills, but you are going to be putting my kills in your OER as proof of your leadership skills, faggot.
You need me more than I need you.
I am the backbone of the Army.
You are the face, barely.
Title: Re: Siege Update
Post by: Siege on April 28, 2011, 09:42:35 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 28, 2011, 09:36:00 PM
You really should call him "sir", you know.  It's not just polite, it's regulations.

Fuck no. After I see his butter bar and his ranger tab I will.
I got no problem calling Alci "Sir", after he earns it.
Right now, he still an E-4.


Title: Re: Siege Update
Post by: Alcibiades on April 28, 2011, 09:42:42 PM
Quote from: Siege on April 28, 2011, 09:35:00 PM
Quote from: Alcibiades on April 28, 2011, 09:16:20 PM
Grats turd.   Maybe I'll make my way down there before you deploy.


And why don't you make yourself useful and go SF or something already, you old bastard.  Keep touting the infantry, but you know SF is where it's at, and what you really want to do/where you'd see the action.  Do it pussy.


oh yeah:

Quote
That means that many firefights go unrecorded. But to have a "confirmed kill" by Sniper Records, you need an officer to witness your kill.

:nelson:

Faggot, I can't run long distances by Ranger standards.
Do you really think I can pass SF selection?
By the way, do you have your ranger tab already?
You know you ain;t going anywhere as an infantry officer without your tab.

Are you planning to be a Fobbit?


Ranger 5 mile run is 40 minutes.... you JUST said you could.   :huh:


Hoping to fly apaches as my first choice, second will be infantry.   :sleep:
Title: Re: Siege Update
Post by: Alcibiades on April 28, 2011, 09:43:23 PM
Quote from: Siege on April 28, 2011, 09:42:35 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 28, 2011, 09:36:00 PM
You really should call him "sir", you know.  It's not just polite, it's regulations.

Fuck no. After I see his butter bar and his ranger tab I will.
I got no problem calling Alci "Sir", after he earns it.
Right now, he still an E-4.

I'm building his counseling packet as we speak.   ^_^
Title: Re: Siege Update
Post by: Siege on April 28, 2011, 09:48:18 PM
Quote from: Alcibiades on April 28, 2011, 09:42:42 PM
Quote from: Siege on April 28, 2011, 09:35:00 PM
Quote from: Alcibiades on April 28, 2011, 09:16:20 PM
Grats turd.   Maybe I'll make my way down there before you deploy.


And why don't you make yourself useful and go SF or something already, you old bastard.  Keep touting the infantry, but you know SF is where it's at, and what you really want to do/where you'd see the action.  Do it pussy.


oh yeah:

Quote
That means that many firefights go unrecorded. But to have a "confirmed kill" by Sniper Records, you need an officer to witness your kill.

:nelson:

Faggot, I can't run long distances by Ranger standards.
Do you really think I can pass SF selection?
By the way, do you have your ranger tab already?
You know you ain;t going anywhere as an infantry officer without your tab.

Are you planning to be a Fobbit?


Ranger 5 mile run is 40 minutes.... you JUST said you could.   :huh:


Hoping to fly apaches as my first choice, second will be infantry.   :sleep:

Fuck no. I said I could run better than 8 minute mile for 20 minutes, after 20 I can't help but to slow down.
I wish I could run 5 miles the way I run 2 miles.
This cannot be too hard for you to understand, "Sir".

And about flying Apaches, you do realize that means being a Warrant Officer instead of being a real officer, right?

Title: Re: Siege Update
Post by: CountDeMoney on April 28, 2011, 09:50:21 PM
Quote from: Siege on April 28, 2011, 09:48:18 PM
This cannot be too hard for you to understand, "Sir".

That's sarcasm.  Alci learned about that in OCS.  Better watch it, or you'll be busted down to his Spec-4, buying his beer.
Title: Re: Siege Update
Post by: Siege on April 28, 2011, 09:56:59 PM
Quote from: Alcibiades on April 28, 2011, 09:43:23 PM
Quote from: Siege on April 28, 2011, 09:42:35 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 28, 2011, 09:36:00 PM
You really should call him "sir", you know.  It's not just polite, it's regulations.

Fuck no. After I see his butter bar and his ranger tab I will.
I got no problem calling Alci "Sir", after he earns it.
Right now, he still an E-4.

I'm building his counseling packet as we speak.   ^_^

My counseling packet says I am awesome, Silver Star recipiant, close to 100 air assault missions under my belt, countless enemy killed or captured, countless enemy weapon caches found, 2 good conduct medals, 2 NCO development medals, 3 Army Commendation medals, 1 army achivement medal, 2 combat stars in my Iraqi campaing medal, 2 overseas service medals, etc, etc.

Title: Re: Siege Update
Post by: Alcibiades on April 28, 2011, 09:58:59 PM
Quote from: Siege on April 28, 2011, 09:48:18 PM
Quote from: Alcibiades on April 28, 2011, 09:42:42 PM
Quote from: Siege on April 28, 2011, 09:35:00 PM
Quote from: Alcibiades on April 28, 2011, 09:16:20 PM
Grats turd.   Maybe I'll make my way down there before you deploy.


And why don't you make yourself useful and go SF or something already, you old bastard.  Keep touting the infantry, but you know SF is where it's at, and what you really want to do/where you'd see the action.  Do it pussy.


oh yeah:

Quote
That means that many firefights go unrecorded. But to have a "confirmed kill" by Sniper Records, you need an officer to witness your kill.

:nelson:

Faggot, I can't run long distances by Ranger standards.
Do you really think I can pass SF selection?
By the way, do you have your ranger tab already?
You know you ain;t going anywhere as an infantry officer without your tab.

Are you planning to be a Fobbit?


Ranger 5 mile run is 40 minutes.... you JUST said you could.   :huh:


Hoping to fly apaches as my first choice, second will be infantry.   :sleep:

Fuck no. I said I could run better than 8 minute mile for 20 minutes, after 20 I can't help but to slow down.
I wish I could run 5 miles the way I run 2 miles.
This cannot be too hard for you to understand, "Sir".

And about flying Apaches, you do realize that means being a Warrant Officer instead of being a real officer, right?

You do realize commissioned officers fly, right?   :rolleyes:


There are just a lot more responsibilities, being leaders and commanders and all.  Are you even in the army?   <_<
Title: Re: Siege Update
Post by: Alcibiades on April 28, 2011, 09:59:53 PM
Quote from: Siege on April 28, 2011, 09:56:59 PM
Quote from: Alcibiades on April 28, 2011, 09:43:23 PM
Quote from: Siege on April 28, 2011, 09:42:35 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 28, 2011, 09:36:00 PM
You really should call him "sir", you know.  It's not just polite, it's regulations.

Fuck no. After I see his butter bar and his ranger tab I will.
I got no problem calling Alci "Sir", after he earns it.
Right now, he still an E-4.

I'm building his counseling packet as we speak.   ^_^

My counseling packet says I am awesome, Silver Star recipiant, close to 100 air assault missions under my belt, countless enemy killed or captured, countless enemy weapon caches found, 2 good conduct medals, 2 NCO development medals, 3 Army Commendation medals, 1 army achivement medal, 2 combat stars in my Iraqi campaing medal, 2 overseas service medals, etc, etc.

My Arcom with Valor sounds better than that boring drivel.
Title: Re: Siege Update
Post by: Tonitrus on April 28, 2011, 10:06:24 PM
I have a Joint Service Achievement Medal...and a cubicle.  :P
Title: Re: Siege Update
Post by: Valmy on April 28, 2011, 10:07:02 PM
Quote from: Tonitrus on April 28, 2011, 10:06:24 PM
I have a Joint Service Achievement Medal...and a cubicle.

A red cubicle of courage.
Title: Re: Siege Update
Post by: Tonitrus on April 28, 2011, 10:08:11 PM
Quote from: Valmy on April 28, 2011, 10:07:02 PM
Quote from: Tonitrus on April 28, 2011, 10:06:24 PM
I have a Joint Service Achievement Medal...and a cubicle.

A red cubicle of courage.

Actually I lied, we have our own office.
Title: Re: Siege Update
Post by: Razgovory on April 28, 2011, 10:09:10 PM
I won a medal at a Geography Bee once. :)
Title: Re: Siege Update
Post by: Siege on April 28, 2011, 10:12:27 PM
Quote from: Alcibiades on April 28, 2011, 09:59:53 PM
Quote from: Siege on April 28, 2011, 09:56:59 PM
Quote from: Alcibiades on April 28, 2011, 09:43:23 PM
Quote from: Siege on April 28, 2011, 09:42:35 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 28, 2011, 09:36:00 PM
You really should call him "sir", you know.  It's not just polite, it's regulations.

Fuck no. After I see his butter bar and his ranger tab I will.
I got no problem calling Alci "Sir", after he earns it.
Right now, he still an E-4.

I'm building his counseling packet as we speak.   ^_^

My counseling packet says I am awesome, Silver Star recipiant, close to 100 air assault missions under my belt, countless enemy killed or captured, countless enemy weapon caches found, 2 good conduct medals, 2 NCO development medals, 3 Army Commendation medals, 1 army achivement medal, 2 combat stars in my Iraqi campaing medal, 2 overseas service medals, etc, etc.

My Arcom with Valor sounds better than that boring drivel.

I am not going to get into this discussion.
ARCOMV vs SS?
You got to be kidding me.
Title: Re: Siege Update
Post by: Alcibiades on April 28, 2011, 10:14:06 PM
Polished Petraeus's nob, didnt you?    :(


Edit:  in my defense all the pogues got the BS's with V.
Title: Re: Siege Update
Post by: CountDeMoney on April 28, 2011, 10:15:43 PM
Does Siegy have the Distinguished Hole-In-A-Bedsheet-Fucker Service Ribbon?
Title: Re: Siege Update
Post by: Siege on April 28, 2011, 10:15:50 PM
Quote from: Alcibiades on April 28, 2011, 09:58:59 PM
Quote from: Siege on April 28, 2011, 09:48:18 PM
Quote from: Alcibiades on April 28, 2011, 09:42:42 PM
Quote from: Siege on April 28, 2011, 09:35:00 PM
Quote from: Alcibiades on April 28, 2011, 09:16:20 PM
Grats turd.   Maybe I'll make my way down there before you deploy.


And why don't you make yourself useful and go SF or something already, you old bastard.  Keep touting the infantry, but you know SF is where it's at, and what you really want to do/where you'd see the action.  Do it pussy.


oh yeah:

Quote
That means that many firefights go unrecorded. But to have a "confirmed kill" by Sniper Records, you need an officer to witness your kill.

:nelson:

Faggot, I can't run long distances by Ranger standards.
Do you really think I can pass SF selection?
By the way, do you have your ranger tab already?
You know you ain;t going anywhere as an infantry officer without your tab.

Are you planning to be a Fobbit?


Ranger 5 mile run is 40 minutes.... you JUST said you could.   :huh:


Hoping to fly apaches as my first choice, second will be infantry.   :sleep:

Fuck no. I said I could run better than 8 minute mile for 20 minutes, after 20 I can't help but to slow down.
I wish I could run 5 miles the way I run 2 miles.
This cannot be too hard for you to understand, "Sir".

And about flying Apaches, you do realize that means being a Warrant Officer instead of being a real officer, right?

You do realize commissioned officers fly, right?   :rolleyes:


There are just a lot more responsibilities, being leaders and commanders and all.  Are you even in the army?   <_<

If you are going to fly Apaches, you are going to be a Warrant Officer.
Commissioned Officers in Aviation Units are commanders and they do not fly helicopters.
Warrant officers fly, commissioned officers command.

And yes, I am in the frigging Army.
11B3S, if you must know.
Title: Re: Siege Update
Post by: Razgovory on April 28, 2011, 10:18:13 PM
You know, if you google "11B3S" you get a lot of websites in Arabic. :ph34r:
Title: Re: Siege Update
Post by: Zeus on April 28, 2011, 10:19:07 PM
I would have chosen the military as my path, EOD preferably, but they don't take athsmatics or so I hear. :mad:
Title: Re: Siege Update
Post by: Siege on April 28, 2011, 10:22:43 PM
Quote from: Alcibiades on April 28, 2011, 10:14:06 PM
Polished Petraeus's nob, didnt you?    :(


Edit:  in my defense all the pogues got the BS's with V.

Bullshit, faggot.
Pogs get the BS (Bronze Star) without the "V".
You don't get the "V" for showing up.

By Army regulations, E-7 and O-1 and above get the BS (without "V") for showing up down range.
Nobody gets the "V" unless executing an act of valor to deserve it.
Bronze Stars with V are REALLY hard to come by with.
You don't get them for killing people.
Killing the enemy is your fucking job. No medals for that.
You need to execute an act of valor under enemy fire to get a "V".
Title: Re: Siege Update
Post by: Razgovory on April 28, 2011, 10:22:56 PM
They wouldn't take me either on account that sometimes I think people from the future are spying on me. <_<


If only they still had this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8TQugNhUhY


Title: Re: Siege Update
Post by: Siege on April 28, 2011, 10:24:41 PM
Quote from: Zeus on April 28, 2011, 10:19:07 PM
I would have chosen the military as my path, EOD preferably, but they don't take athsmatics or so I hear. :mad:

Can't comment about this.
These days is hard to get into the US Army.
Too many people in, and reduction is in the horizon.

Title: Re: Siege Update
Post by: Alcibiades on April 28, 2011, 10:24:52 PM
Quote from: Siege on April 28, 2011, 10:15:50 PM
Quote from: Alcibiades on April 28, 2011, 09:58:59 PM
Quote from: Siege on April 28, 2011, 09:48:18 PM
Quote from: Alcibiades on April 28, 2011, 09:42:42 PM
Quote from: Siege on April 28, 2011, 09:35:00 PM
Quote from: Alcibiades on April 28, 2011, 09:16:20 PM
Grats turd.   Maybe I'll make my way down there before you deploy.


And why don't you make yourself useful and go SF or something already, you old bastard.  Keep touting the infantry, but you know SF is where it's at, and what you really want to do/where you'd see the action.  Do it pussy.


oh yeah:

Quote
That means that many firefights go unrecorded. But to have a "confirmed kill" by Sniper Records, you need an officer to witness your kill.

:nelson:

Faggot, I can't run long distances by Ranger standards.
Do you really think I can pass SF selection?
By the way, do you have your ranger tab already?
You know you ain;t going anywhere as an infantry officer without your tab.

Are you planning to be a Fobbit?


Ranger 5 mile run is 40 minutes.... you JUST said you could.   :huh:


Hoping to fly apaches as my first choice, second will be infantry.   :sleep:

Fuck no. I said I could run better than 8 minute mile for 20 minutes, after 20 I can't help but to slow down.
I wish I could run 5 miles the way I run 2 miles.
This cannot be too hard for you to understand, "Sir".

And about flying Apaches, you do realize that means being a Warrant Officer instead of being a real officer, right?

You do realize commissioned officers fly, right?   :rolleyes:


There are just a lot more responsibilities, being leaders and commanders and all.  Are you even in the army?   <_<

If you are going to fly Apaches, you are going to be a Warrant Officer.
Commissioned Officers in Aviation Units are commanders and they do not fly helicopters.
Warrant officers fly, commissioned officers command.

And yes, I am in the frigging Army.
11B3S, if you must know.

Want to put money on it?
Title: Re: Siege Update
Post by: Alcibiades on April 28, 2011, 10:26:00 PM
Quote from: Siege on April 28, 2011, 10:22:43 PM
Quote from: Alcibiades on April 28, 2011, 10:14:06 PM
Polished Petraeus's nob, didnt you?    :(


Edit:  in my defense all the pogues got the BS's with V.

Bullshit, faggot.
Pogs get the BS (Bronze Star) without the "V".
You don't get the "V" for showing up.

By Army regulations, E-7 and O-1 and above get the BS (without "V") for showing up down range.
Nobody gets the "V" unless executing an act of valor to deserve it.
Bronze Start with V are REALLY hard to come by with.
You don't get them for killing people.
Killing the enemy is your fucking job. No medals for that.
You need to execute an act of valor under enemy fire to get a "V".


Thats why my platoon just put us in for Arcoms V, kept saying it was our job and we agreed.  Tankers put themselves all in for Bronze Stars, pretty sure the V as well, despite us doing all the work, and putting our lives on the line while they hid in their tanks.
Title: Re: Siege Update
Post by: Siege on April 28, 2011, 10:33:26 PM
Quote from: Alcibiades on April 28, 2011, 10:26:00 PM
Quote from: Siege on April 28, 2011, 10:22:43 PM
Quote from: Alcibiades on April 28, 2011, 10:14:06 PM
Polished Petraeus's nob, didnt you?    :(


Edit:  in my defense all the pogues got the BS's with V.

Bullshit, faggot.
Pogs get the BS (Bronze Star) without the "V".
You don't get the "V" for showing up.

By Army regulations, E-7 and O-1 and above get the BS (without "V") for showing up down range.
Nobody gets the "V" unless executing an act of valor to deserve it.
Bronze Start with V are REALLY hard to come by with.
You don't get them for killing people.
Killing the enemy is your fucking job. No medals for that.
You need to execute an act of valor under enemy fire to get a "V".


Thats why my platoon just put us in for Arcoms V, kept saying it was our job and we agreed.  Tankers put themselves all in for Bronze Stars, pretty sure the V as well, despite us doing all the work, and putting our lives on the line while they hid in their tanks.

Hey, don't confuse medals for valor with End Of Tour Awards.
What are you talking about here?

End Of Tour Awards are Bronze Stars (without "V") for E-7 and O-1 and above.
Bronze Stars with V, Silver Stars, or Dsitinguished Service Cross, are given ONLY for act of valor under enemy fire.
They have nothing to do with End Of Tour Awards.

During the Surge I got a Silver Star for actions in combat, and an ARCOM (without "V" of course) as an End Of Tour Award.

Title: Re: Siege Update
Post by: Alcibiades on April 28, 2011, 10:35:48 PM
I know what I'm talking about, I'm not you.  I'm talking about during operations.
Title: Re: Siege Update
Post by: Habbaku on April 28, 2011, 10:42:44 PM
I wasn't aware that Siegy had a Silver Star.  That's pretty awesome.  :)
Title: Re: Siege Update
Post by: Admiral Yi on April 28, 2011, 10:46:53 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on April 28, 2011, 10:42:44 PM
I wasn't aware that Siegy had a Silver Star.  That's pretty awesome.  :)

Yeah, no shit.  Way to go you big Fighting Jew. :cheers:

What's an ARCOM?
Title: Re: Siege Update
Post by: Siege on April 28, 2011, 10:48:21 PM
Quote from: Alcibiades on April 28, 2011, 10:35:48 PM
I know what I'm talking about, I'm not you.  I'm talking about during operations.

Then that goes down to your leadership.
They sucked.
I always make sure my soldiers get the valorous awards they deserve.
My leaders do the same for me.
It is called the Chain of Command.

And you do not get valorous awards unless deserved.
I got my Silver Star 6 months after the engagement.
It was investigated 3 times by 3 diferent commissions from the Army.
My SAW gunner, who ran through the bullets with me and which provided the support-by-fire that allowed me to jump into the irrigation ditch the enemy was using as a trench, and thus let me shoot the enemy at point blank and roll over their linear ambush, got his Silver Star, signed by our Battalion Commander, downgraded to a Bronze Star with V.

Do not kid yourself. It is not easy to get an SS, or any other medal for valor for that matter.

Title: Re: Siege Update
Post by: Razgovory on April 28, 2011, 10:56:13 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on April 28, 2011, 10:46:53 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on April 28, 2011, 10:42:44 PM
I wasn't aware that Siegy had a Silver Star.  That's pretty awesome.  :)

Yeah, no shit.  Way to go you big Fighting Jew. :cheers:

What's an ARCOM?

Now he's at John Kerry level!
Title: Re: Siege Update
Post by: Siege on April 28, 2011, 11:00:15 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on April 28, 2011, 10:46:53 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on April 28, 2011, 10:42:44 PM
I wasn't aware that Siegy had a Silver Star.  That's pretty awesome.  :)

Yeah, no shit.  Way to go you big Fighting Jew. :cheers:

What's an ARCOM?

Army Commendation Medal.

They are awarded without V for all kinds of shit (I got 3), but with "V" only for valourous actions under enemy fire that do not deserve a Bronze Star with "V".

Medals for valor are:

ARCOM with V
Bronze Star with V
Silver Star (no "V", since it is only given for valor)
Distinguished Service Cross (No V since it is for valor while in command)
Medal of Honor

So medal for valor go from higher to lower:
1- Medal Of Honor (MOH)
2- Distinguished Service Cross (DSC)
3- Silver Star (SS)
4- Bronze Star with V (BSMV)
5- Army Commendation Medal with V (ARCOMV)

Keep in mind though, that the Bronze Star without the V is given to all officers and senior NCOs as an End Of Tour Award.
This is for E-7 and O-1 and above.
E-6 and below, meaning me and Alci, we get an ARCOM (without V) as our End Of Tour Award.



Title: Re: Siege Update
Post by: Admiral Yi on April 29, 2011, 12:00:59 AM
Very informative Seeb.
Title: Re: Siege Update
Post by: The Brain on April 29, 2011, 12:30:51 AM
Great thread, Siege!  :)

And I don't think you have to worry about Afghanistan being over anytime soon. Plenty time to kill savages.
Title: Re: Siege Update
Post by: Syt on April 29, 2011, 01:30:34 AM
In honour of this thread I've just ordered Ray Ban sunglasses.
Title: Re: Siege Update
Post by: lustindarkness on April 29, 2011, 02:20:13 AM
Ha! I have an ARCOM, and I'm NAVY, and all I did was my job. :lol:

Good to hear from you Siege.




BTW, I second the comment of great thread.
Title: Re: Siege Update
Post by: Grey Fox on April 29, 2011, 06:36:37 AM
Have you ever come under enemy fire Lusti?
Title: Re: Siege Update
Post by: Viking on April 29, 2011, 07:25:15 AM
Quote from: Siege on April 28, 2011, 07:39:41 PM
Quote from: Neil on April 28, 2011, 07:35:06 PM
Quote from: Siege on April 28, 2011, 06:29:34 PM
It is not that big of a deal.
I guarantee you that there more than one Raptor in the US Army.
Yeah, but when you go up for war crimes and we hear the commo recording of how Raptor Leader is raping some little girl, we'll know it's you.

I am definitively not gonna use Raptor Leader.
Sounds too Holywood to me.

Rapture Leader?
Title: Re: Siege Update
Post by: lustindarkness on April 29, 2011, 07:28:39 AM
Quote from: Grey Fox on April 29, 2011, 06:36:37 AM
Have you ever come under enemy fire Lusti?

No, but I've survived 14 years of marriage.
Title: Re: Siege Update
Post by: Grey Fox on April 29, 2011, 07:33:00 AM
Quote from: lustindarkness on April 29, 2011, 07:28:39 AM
Quote from: Grey Fox on April 29, 2011, 06:36:37 AM
Have you ever come under enemy fire Lusti?

No, but I've survived 14 years of marriage.

Should have join the Air Force then. I hear they give out medals for that.
Title: Re: Siege Update
Post by: KRonn on April 29, 2011, 07:43:28 AM
Interesting thread, good stuff, good info Siege.
Title: Re: Siege Update
Post by: The Minsky Moment on April 29, 2011, 08:47:23 AM
Quote from: Siege on April 28, 2011, 06:29:34 PM
It is not that big of a deal.
I guarantee you that there more than one Raptor in the US Army.

If your exact call sign is known, and the call sign of others in your platoon also become known, then the combination of that information could be used to help track the deployment of your platoon.

Just b/c a single piece of information is not that useful on its own doesn't mean that it can't become useful in combination with other pieces of information.  Why not err on the safe side?
Title: Re: Siege Update
Post by: The Brain on April 29, 2011, 08:51:13 AM
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on April 29, 2011, 08:47:23 AM
Quote from: Siege on April 28, 2011, 06:29:34 PM
It is not that big of a deal.
I guarantee you that there more than one Raptor in the US Army.

If your exact call sign is known, and the call sign of others in your platoon also become known, then the combination of that information could be used to help track the deployment of your platoon.

Just b/c a single piece of information is not that useful on its own doesn't mean that it can't become useful in combination with other pieces of information.  Why not err on the safe side?

The info must flow. Languish depends on it.
Title: Re: Siege Update
Post by: Alcibiades on April 29, 2011, 09:47:49 AM
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on April 29, 2011, 08:47:23 AM
Quote from: Siege on April 28, 2011, 06:29:34 PM
It is not that big of a deal.
I guarantee you that there more than one Raptor in the US Army.

If your exact call sign is known, and the call sign of others in your platoon also become known, then the combination of that information could be used to help track the deployment of your platoon.

Just b/c a single piece of information is not that useful on its own doesn't mean that it can't become useful in combination with other pieces of information.  Why not err on the safe side?


Just curious how.  Because if he is Raptor what ever, his whole platoon is Raptor (X).   So feasibly you can track his whole platoon already then....But I don't know how you can, or how you'll hack a sincgars to listen in/track him during deployment.
Title: Re: Siege Update
Post by: The Brain on April 29, 2011, 09:50:14 AM
The Taliban scan the net for any and all military information and then act on it. They have already learnt that Swedish coastal rangers are better at English than US soldiers and that the armor of the T-55 is vastly superior to the Abrams.
Title: Re: Siege Update
Post by: Admiral Yi on April 29, 2011, 09:55:47 AM
Sometimes a sincgar is just a sincgar.
Title: Re: Siege Update
Post by: Razgovory on April 29, 2011, 09:57:04 AM
Quote from: Alcibiades on April 29, 2011, 09:47:49 AM
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on April 29, 2011, 08:47:23 AM
Quote from: Siege on April 28, 2011, 06:29:34 PM
It is not that big of a deal.
I guarantee you that there more than one Raptor in the US Army.

If your exact call sign is known, and the call sign of others in your platoon also become known, then the combination of that information could be used to help track the deployment of your platoon.

Just b/c a single piece of information is not that useful on its own doesn't mean that it can't become useful in combination with other pieces of information.  Why not err on the safe side?


Just curious how.  Because if he is Raptor what ever, his whole platoon is Raptor (X).   So feasibly you can track his whole platoon already then....But I don't know how you can, or how you'll hack a sincgars to listen in/track him during deployment.

Well, he gave other information about his unit.  Still I read news articles where in Iraq they had Iraqi translators steal quite a bit from military bases and selling it on the street.  It's not inconceivable they could act as spies as well.
Title: Re: Siege Update
Post by: Norgy on April 29, 2011, 10:44:07 AM
Quote from: Siege on April 28, 2011, 05:08:04 PM
Well, it is official. I am in the 101st Airborne Division, The Screaming Eagles.

I fear the war in Afghanistan might be over before I get an oportunity to deploy and wage war on Islam once again. A diferent war, a diferent country, the same old smelly enemy.


Congratulations. Although I rarely see eye to eye with you on anything at all, that is really good.

I sincerely doubt the war in Afghanistan will be over anytime soon, but NATO involvement, possibly. Good luck and remember "Taliban" just means they can recite the Koran.
Title: Re: Siege Update
Post by: crazy canuck on April 29, 2011, 11:02:13 AM
Quotecountless enemy killed or captured, countless enemy weapon caches found

Too bad they were not counted.  Its a shame you never got any credit.
Title: Re: Siege Update
Post by: The Minsky Moment on April 29, 2011, 12:35:15 PM
Quote from: Alcibiades on April 29, 2011, 09:47:49 AM
Just curious how.  Because if he is Raptor what ever, his whole platoon is Raptor (X).   So feasibly you can track his whole platoon already then....But I don't know how you can, or how you'll hack a sincgars to listen in/track him during deployment.

Sincgar is just a gussied-up portable radio, no? 
Title: Re: Siege Update
Post by: Alcibiades on April 29, 2011, 12:41:51 PM
It's a portable radio that can swap across over a hundred channels per second.  Apparently it's exceptionally hard to crack, and you generally change the algorithm/channels it goes across very often.
Title: Re: Siege Update
Post by: Caliga on April 29, 2011, 12:43:29 PM
We have those installed in Red Cross ECRV vehicles (or some similar system, if not exactly the same thing).
Title: Re: Siege Update
Post by: Alcibiades on April 29, 2011, 12:46:42 PM
Quote from: Caliga on April 29, 2011, 12:43:29 PM
We have those installed in Red Cross ECRV vehicles (or some similar system, if not exactly the same thing).
Probably, it is one of the only real ways to communicate with the military.
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.armyproperty.com%2FEquipment-Info%2FPictures%2FSincgars.jpg&hash=4d3c8e8ba6e0ae2635596d9963a70f1c13da0edf)
Title: Re: Siege Update
Post by: Caliga on April 29, 2011, 12:48:59 PM
I couldn't tell you by looking at that pic if it's the same--the back of the vehicle is an entire panel of radio and satellite equipment and the various knobs/keypads all kind of blend together in my mind.

The other cool thing you can do with an ECRV is interfere with the signals of some communications satellites, or so I've heard.  We share bandwidth with: Showtime. :perv:
Title: Re: Siege Update
Post by: Slargos on April 29, 2011, 12:54:07 PM
Break a Taliban's leg.  :D

Title: Re: Siege Update
Post by: The Minsky Moment on April 29, 2011, 01:04:38 PM
Quote from: Alcibiades on April 29, 2011, 12:41:51 PM
It's a portable radio that can swap across over a hundred channels per second.  Apparently it's exceptionally hard to crack, and you generally change the algorithm/channels it goes across very often.

Frequency hopping can be cracked.  Police and security domestically use that kind of security for their radio transmissions and you can find $200 scanners that crack it.  No doubt the military version is much more capable but I doubt that breaking it is beyond the capacity of Chinese or Russian engineers.
Title: Re: Siege Update
Post by: Caliga on April 29, 2011, 01:06:36 PM
He didn't say it couldn't be done. :huh:
Title: Re: Siege Update
Post by: Alcibiades on April 29, 2011, 01:30:03 PM
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on April 29, 2011, 01:04:38 PM
Quote from: Alcibiades on April 29, 2011, 12:41:51 PM
It's a portable radio that can swap across over a hundred channels per second.  Apparently it's exceptionally hard to crack, and you generally change the algorithm/channels it goes across very often.

Frequency hopping can be cracked.  Police and security domestically use that kind of security for their radio transmissions and you can find $200 scanners that crack it.  No doubt the military version is much more capable but I doubt that breaking it is beyond the capacity of Chinese or Russian engineers.

Yeah, they way they mitigate the risk of it just being frequency hopping, is changing the frequencies and keys that are used very frequently.


Shrug, I'm no crypto-analyst, and I'd rather not say more on how we use these things properly.   :P
Title: Re: Siege Update
Post by: crazy canuck on April 29, 2011, 03:55:28 PM
In the good old days you just needed to say "loose lips sink ships" and everyone would nod their head in agreement.
Title: Re: Siege Update
Post by: The Minsky Moment on April 29, 2011, 04:54:32 PM
I think Siege's posting is terrific and all that and I enjoy his war stories but better to err on the side of caution.
Title: Re: Siege Update
Post by: Eddie Teach on April 29, 2011, 05:46:18 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on April 29, 2011, 03:55:28 PM
In the good old days you just needed to say "loose lips sink ships" and everyone would nod their head in agreement.

Siege doesn't understand naval metaphors.  :P
Title: Re: Siege Update
Post by: Razgovory on April 29, 2011, 07:37:42 PM
JR is just looking out for his fellow Jew.
Title: Re: Siege Update
Post by: Caliga on May 04, 2011, 06:47:27 PM
QuoteObama will visit troops at Fort Campbell Friday
34 minutes ago

President Barack Obama will visit troops at Fort Campbell in Western Kentucky on Friday, according to White House officials. The president is slated to meet with members of the 101st Airborne Division, which has had brigades deployed in Afghanistan.
Give him my love, Siege. :)
Title: Re: Siege Update
Post by: HVC on May 04, 2011, 07:13:05 PM
Quote from: Caliga on May 04, 2011, 06:47:27 PM
QuoteObama will visit troops at Fort Campbell Friday
34 minutes ago

President Barack Obama will visit troops at Fort Campbell in Western Kentucky on Friday, according to White House officials. The president is slated to meet with members of the 101st Airborne Division, which has had brigades deployed in Afghanistan.
Give him my love, Siege. :)
Obama and seige in the smae vicinity? this could turn out to be a very bad news headline :sad: :P
Title: Re: Siege Update
Post by: alfred russel on May 04, 2011, 08:15:46 PM
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on April 29, 2011, 01:04:38 PM
Quote from: Alcibiades on April 29, 2011, 12:41:51 PM
It's a portable radio that can swap across over a hundred channels per second.  Apparently it's exceptionally hard to crack, and you generally change the algorithm/channels it goes across very often.

Frequency hopping can be cracked.  Police and security domestically use that kind of security for their radio transmissions and you can find $200 scanners that crack it.  No doubt the military version is much more capable but I doubt that breaking it is beyond the capacity of Chinese or Russian engineers.

The chinese or russians are going to employ engineers to crack the radio code of an infantry squad and cross link it with the call sign revealed by an NCO on an internet forum to what end?  :huh:
Title: Re: Siege Update
Post by: alfred russel on May 04, 2011, 08:16:41 PM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on April 29, 2011, 05:46:18 PM

Siege doesn't understand naval metaphors.  :P

Because they are metaphors?  :P
Title: Re: Siege Update
Post by: Siege on May 05, 2011, 05:54:33 PM
Quote from: Caliga on May 04, 2011, 06:47:27 PM
QuoteObama will visit troops at Fort Campbell Friday
34 minutes ago

President Barack Obama will visit troops at Fort Campbell in Western Kentucky on Friday, according to White House officials. The president is slated to meet with members of the 101st Airborne Division, which has had brigades deployed in Afghanistan.
Give him my love, Siege. :)

Its gonna be tomorrow.
I don't know yet if attendance is volunteer or not.
I hope I can get away from this.
I don't like politicians.
Title: Re: Siege Update
Post by: Caliga on May 05, 2011, 06:01:30 PM
Quote from: Siege on May 05, 2011, 05:54:33 PM
I don't like politicians.
Smart man. :showoff:

Wait, but of course you are: you live in the same state as Cal now. :cool:
Title: Re: Siege Update
Post by: Valmy on May 05, 2011, 06:07:10 PM
Quote from: Caliga on May 05, 2011, 06:01:30 PM
you live in the same state as Cal now. :cool:

Note that the only people on here to do this were ordered by the government.
Title: Re: Siege Update
Post by: Caliga on May 05, 2011, 06:08:15 PM
I wasn't ordered by the government. :blink:
Title: Re: Siege Update
Post by: The Minsky Moment on May 05, 2011, 06:43:03 PM
Quote from: alfred russel on May 04, 2011, 08:15:46 PM
The chinese or russians are going to employ engineers to crack the radio code of an infantry squad and cross link it with the call sign revealed by an NCO on an internet forum to what end?  :huh:

Track deployments and operations of key US units.
I would assume that major intel services routinely trawl the internet for potentially useful info.
Title: Re: Siege Update
Post by: Razgovory on May 05, 2011, 07:48:54 PM
Quote from: Siege on May 05, 2011, 05:54:33 PM

I don't like politicians.

Why?  They provide you neat weapons and people to shoot them at.
Title: Re: Siege Update
Post by: Valmy on May 05, 2011, 10:43:31 PM
Quote from: Caliga on May 05, 2011, 06:08:15 PM
I wasn't ordered by the government. :blink:

Well you have no choice to be in the same state as Cal
Title: Re: Siege Update
Post by: Monoriu on May 05, 2011, 11:09:23 PM
Quote from: Siege on May 05, 2011, 05:54:33 PM
Quote from: Caliga on May 04, 2011, 06:47:27 PM
QuoteObama will visit troops at Fort Campbell Friday
34 minutes ago

President Barack Obama will visit troops at Fort Campbell in Western Kentucky on Friday, according to White House officials. The president is slated to meet with members of the 101st Airborne Division, which has had brigades deployed in Afghanistan.
Give him my love, Siege. :)

Its gonna be tomorrow.
I don't know yet if attendance is volunteer or not.
I hope I can get away from this.
I don't like politicians.

But he is your commander-in-chief :contract: