Lol, how ridiculous!
http://www.kpho.com/news/27272012/detail.html
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QuoteSteven Seagal, Sheriff Raid Valley Home In Tank
POSTED: 11:07 pm MST March 21, 2011
UPDATED: 1:18 pm MST March 22, 2011
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PHOENIX -- Sheriff Joe Arpaio rolled out the tanks to take down a man suspected of cockfighting.
West Valley residents in the neighborhood are crying foul after armored vehicles, including a tank, rolled into their neighborhood to make the bust.
Neighbor Debra Ross was so worried she called 911 and went outside where a nearby home had its windows blown out, was crawling with dozens of SWAT members in full gear, armored vehicles and a bomb robot.
"When the tank came in and pushed the wall over and you see what's in there, and all it is, is a bunch of chickens," Ross said.
In a massive show of force on Monday, the Maricopa County Sheriff's Office executed a search warrant and arrested the homeowner, Jesus Llovera, on charges of suspected cockfighting.
Llovera was alone in the house at the time of the arrest, and he was unarmed.
"I think taxpayers should be shocked," said Robert Campus, Llovera's attorney. Campus said he believes the operation costs tens of thousands of dollars.
Deputies had no probable cause to believe Llovera was armed or dangerous, according to Campus.
Campus said he believes the entire scene was basically a stage, to help actor Steven Seagal's TV show, "Lawman."
Seagal was riding in the tank.
The Sheriff's Department has entered into a contract with Seagal and part of that contract gives Seagal carte blanche to go along with the sheriff as he arrests people.
Thousands of dollars in damages were made to the property and 115 birds were euthanized on the spot.
Llovera was convicted of a misdemeanor last year of attending a cockfight and has no history of owning weapons.
Yet the sheriff's office said they had reasons to believe Llovera might be armed.
"We're going to err on the side of caution. We're going to make sure that we have the appropriate amount of force in case we do run into anything like that," said Sgt. Jesse Spurgin.
He should loan it to the Libyan rebels.
QuoteSheriff Joe Arpaio rolled out the tanks to take down a man suspected of cockfighting.
I approve the deployment of armor assets in the defense of animal rights.
Quoteand 115 birds were euthanized on the spot.
Oops TK.
QuoteDeputies had no probable cause to believe Llovera was armed or dangerous, according to Campus.
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What the fuck is wrong with Arizona, seriously? It seems like it wants to be known as the most fascist state of the union.
I blame Berkut's kin.
Lol...looks like Arpaio is expecting to fight some really well armed Mexican drug cartel gangs! The Mexican military could use him! :cool:
Quote from: DGuller on March 25, 2011, 12:01:32 AM
What the fuck is wrong with Arizona, seriously? It seems like it wants to be known as the most fascist state of the union.
Have they done anything especially fascist, or are you just repeating things you heard Bill Maher say?
Quote from: Neil on March 25, 2011, 07:55:18 AM
Quote from: DGuller on March 25, 2011, 12:01:32 AM
What the fuck is wrong with Arizona, seriously? It seems like it wants to be known as the most fascist state of the union.
Have they done anything especially fascist, or are you just repeating things you heard Bill Maher say?
Its largest county had Joe Arpaio as a sheriff for decades. I have never listened to Bill Maher apart from maybe one interview on Larry King.
:wtf:
Why does the Sherrif's Department even have such a thing?
Quote from: Tyr on March 25, 2011, 08:15:19 AM
:wtf:
Why does the Sherrif's Department even have such a thing?
Steven Seagal's TV show ratings are low ?
Quote from: DGuller on March 25, 2011, 08:06:04 AM
Quote from: Neil on March 25, 2011, 07:55:18 AM
Quote from: DGuller on March 25, 2011, 12:01:32 AM
What the fuck is wrong with Arizona, seriously? It seems like it wants to be known as the most fascist state of the union.
Have they done anything especially fascist, or are you just repeating things you heard Bill Maher say?
Its largest county had Joe Arpaio as a sheriff for decades. I have never listened to Bill Maher apart from maybe one interview on Larry King.
Surely long-standing public servants aren't a sign of fascism, are they? After all, most states have long-term Senators or Representatives.
Also, why would you watch Larry King? Are you retarded or something?
Makes the usual M-113's and armored car rams look like pussy vehicles.
Quote from: DGuller on March 25, 2011, 12:01:32 AM
It seems like it wants to be known as the most fascist state of the union.
They don't have the uniforms for it.
Quote from: Neil on March 25, 2011, 08:25:12 AM
Also, why would you watch Larry King? Are you retarded or something?
Maybe he has trouble falling asleep.
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on March 25, 2011, 12:14:19 PM
Quote from: Neil on March 25, 2011, 08:25:12 AM
Also, why would you watch Larry King? Are you retarded or something?
Maybe he has trouble falling asleep.
Always a safe assumption, sadly. :(
Quote from: Tyr on March 25, 2011, 08:15:19 AM
:wtf:
Why does the Sherrif's Department even have such a thing?
Americans love big government.
Quote from: Neil on March 25, 2011, 07:55:18 AM
Quote from: DGuller on March 25, 2011, 12:01:32 AM
What the fuck is wrong with Arizona, seriously? It seems like it wants to be known as the most fascist state of the union.
Have they done anything especially fascist, or are you just repeating things you heard Bill Maher say?
They're attempting to illegally subsidize private industry by giving Matthew Hulsizer hundred of millions of dollars to keep the Coyotes in Glendale. :mad:
Quote from: Barrister on March 25, 2011, 03:34:50 PM
They're attempting to illegally subsidize private industry by giving Matthew Hulsizer hundred of millions of dollars to keep the Coyotes in Glendale. :mad:
Glendale: worse than a hockey subsidizing Hitler.
This Arpaio fellow seems to have a healthy sense of self-regard.
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on March 25, 2011, 04:08:17 PM
This Arpaio fellow seems to have a healthy sense of self-regard.
Not as much as Dupnik, but yeah.
Quote from: derspiess on March 25, 2011, 04:12:40 PM
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on March 25, 2011, 04:08:17 PM
This Arpaio fellow seems to have a healthy sense of self-regard.
Not as much as Dupnik, but yeah.
Oh, please. :rolleyes: Dupnik said one hasty thing after a public shooting, nobody knew who he was before this January. Arpaio spent decades developing a cult of personality, backed by thugs with badges. Mentioning those two in the same breath is idiotic even by the Fox News standards.
I am merely commenting on Arpaio's apparent penchant for conspicuously painting his own name on county property.
The "flames" paint job on the gun is also a high class touch.
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on March 25, 2011, 04:08:17 PM
This Arpaio fellow seems to have a healthy sense of self-regard.
I was thinking the same thing. He seems like a self-aggrandizing dick if that SP gun is anything to go by. Glad he is not in my state. Our law enforcement people are insufferable enough as it is.
Actually, what leaps to mind about that photo is that it is exactly what you would expect to see if an 11 year old boy were made sheriff of a major US county.
And the Seagal angle to the story does not exactly detract from that impression.
Quote from: DGuller on March 25, 2011, 04:23:37 PM
Oh, please. :rolleyes: Dupnik said one hasty thing after a public shooting, nobody knew who he was before this January.
One thing? He wouldn't shut up for weeks. But he's been media-whoring since the hub-bub around last year's Arizona anti-illegal immigration law.
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on March 25, 2011, 04:58:20 PM
Actually, what leaps to mind about that photo is that it is exactly what you would expect to see if an 11 year old boy were made sheriff of a major US county.
And the Seagal angle to the story does not exactly detract from that impression.
I would have painted it jet black.
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on March 25, 2011, 04:45:15 PM
I am merely commenting on Arpaio's apparent penchant for conspicuously painting his own name on county property.
The "flames" paint job on the gun is also a high class touch.
No doubt. If you want to one-up your neighbor's custom Harley, I guess this is one way to do it. Sheriffs seem to generally like to put their name on county property, though.
A few years ago in Delaware the three county sheriffs raised a big stink about being ordered by the state to remove the lights from their cruisers. The thing is, since Delaware has county police departments, sheriffs have no law enforcement role-- their main duty is holding auctions for seized or foreclosed property. But they still wanted their lights or they just wouldn't have felt like sheriffs :D
Quote from: Ed Anger on March 25, 2011, 05:10:21 PM
I would have painted it jet black.
I would have put zimmerit paste on it & painted it gray :ph34r:
Quote from: derspiess on March 25, 2011, 05:26:27 PM
I would have put zimmerit paste on it & painted it gray :ph34r:
That's a lot of spackle.
It looks like self propelled artillery to me, not a self propelled gun. :nerd:
Quote from: derspiess on March 25, 2011, 05:23:54 PM
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on March 25, 2011, 04:45:15 PM
I am merely commenting on Arpaio's apparent penchant for conspicuously painting his own name on county property.
The "flames" paint job on the gun is also a high class touch.
No doubt. If you want to one-up your neighbor's custom Harley, I guess this is one way to do it. Sheriffs seem to generally like to put their name on county property, though.
A few years ago in Delaware the three county sheriffs raised a big stink about being ordered by the state to remove the lights from their cruisers. The thing is, since Delaware has county police departments, sheriffs have no law enforcement role-- their main duty is holding auctions for seized or foreclosed property. But they still wanted their lights or they just wouldn't have felt like sheriffs :D
Pfft, they can do things like they do here in New Jersey, and give multiple police departments jurisdiction. Where I live, Jersey City PD, Port Authority PD, Hudson County Sheriff Department, New Jersey Transit Police Department, and New Jersey State Police all have presence in official capacity.
Sheriff is still the highest-ranking publicly elected law enforcement official. As such, no police chief ought to be able to deny them a law enforcement role if they want to get involved.
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on March 25, 2011, 04:58:20 PM
Actually, what leaps to mind about that photo is that it is exactly what you would expect to see if an 11 year old boy Timmay were made sheriff of a major US county.
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on March 25, 2011, 06:18:32 PM
Sheriff is still the highest-ranking publicly elected law enforcement official. As such, no police chief ought to be able to deny them a law enforcement role if they want to get involved.
Don't sheriffs typically have jurisdiction in unincorporated places by default? In densely populated states, that can be nowhere.
Quote from: DGuller on March 25, 2011, 06:33:11 PM
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on March 25, 2011, 06:18:32 PM
Sheriff is still the highest-ranking publicly elected law enforcement official. As such, no police chief ought to be able to deny them a law enforcement role if they want to get involved.
Don't sheriffs typically have jurisdiction in unincorporated places by default? In densely populated states, that can be nowhere.
Where I live, the Sheriff has jurisdiction over the whole county. Both the incorporated and unincorporated bits.
Quote from: derspiess on March 25, 2011, 05:26:27 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on March 25, 2011, 05:10:21 PM
I would have painted it jet black.
I would have put zimmerit paste on it & painted it gray :ph34r:
Meh. A mural of bunnies and some flowers.
Quote from: derspiess on March 25, 2011, 05:09:00 PM
One thing? He wouldn't shut up for weeks. But he's been media-whoring since the hub-bub around last year's Arizona anti-illegal immigration law.
Never heard of the guy.
Arpaio's the one who dresses prisoners up in pink isn't he?
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on March 25, 2011, 11:53:08 PM
Quote from: derspiess on March 25, 2011, 05:09:00 PM
One thing? He wouldn't shut up for weeks. But he's been media-whoring since the hub-bub around last year's Arizona anti-illegal immigration law.
Never heard of the guy.
Arpaio's the one who dresses prisoners up in pink isn't he?
Yeah, and makes pre-trial prisoners wear "Not Convicted" shirts.
And here comes the lawsuit.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2011/08/31/actor-steven-seagal-sued-for-driving-tank-into-arizona-home-killing-puppy/
QuoteActor Steven Seagal Sued for Driving Tank into Arizona Home, Killing Puppy
The story of Steven Seagal accompanying Sheriff Joe Arpaio's raid on an Arizona man suspected of cock-fighting seems almost humorous. Almost, that is, until you think about police driving into your own home with a tank and killing your dog, which is what happened when Seagal drove a tank into Jesus Llovera's house.
Seagal told a local radio station that animal cruelty was one of his pet peeves, and since the bust was an animal cruelty bust – which apparently requires the use of several armored cars, a tank, and dozens of sheriff's deputies in full riot gear – Seagal decided to go along for the ride...and kill hundreds of roosters and a puppy in the process.
So much for animal cruelty. It turns out, of course, that Seagal was just joining the ranks of reality TV stars, blending the line between reality and television, and the line between entertainment and justice. And now he's being sued to the tune of $100,000 by Llovera, who is also demanding a written apology from Seagal to his children for killing their puppy.
Seagal has also accompanied Arpaio's sheriffs in cracking down on illegal immigrants. I guess being a tough guy in the movies is just never enough.
As Sean O'Neal points out, "Here's hoping that Steven Seagal, puppy-killer, never meets Steven Seagal, guy from Out For Justice, because that dude would be pissed." Now that would be poetic justice, which is more than we can say for the faux justice Arpaio and Seagal handed out for the TV cameras.
Perhaps you need armour if you have come to arrest Jesus.
I mean, the first time he went quietly, and look what happened to him. This time, he's pissed.
I'm still in disbelief that someone like Arpaio hasn't been brought down yet. I guess that says a lot about Arizona, that a sheriff intent on running a police state is one of the most powerful politicians there.
Quote from: DGuller on September 02, 2011, 08:26:29 AM
I'm still in disbelief that someone like Arpaio hasn't been brought down yet. I guess that says a lot about Arizona, that a sheriff intent on running a police state is one of the most powerful politicians there.
The guy has an amazing knack for getting publicity and attracting fame. He is a celebrity and Americans love those people.
Quote from: Valmy on September 02, 2011, 08:28:03 AM
The guy has an amazing knack for getting publicity and attracting fame. He is an celebrity idiot and Americans love those people.
:P
How the hell did a moron like Arpaio get cleared to use an SPG in a residential area, anyway? Seems like some restrictions on using military-grade hardware in residential areas without orders from higher up are kind of a no-brainer...
Quote from: DontSayBanana on September 02, 2011, 09:30:45 AM
How the hell did a moron like Arpaio get cleared to use an SPG in a residential area, anyway? Seems like some restrictions on using military-grade hardware in residential areas without orders from higher up are kind of a no-brainer...
He is the higher-up....
Quote from: derspiess on March 25, 2011, 05:09:00 PM
Quote from: DGuller on March 25, 2011, 04:23:37 PM
Oh, please. :rolleyes: Dupnik said one hasty thing after a public shooting, nobody knew who he was before this January.
One thing? He wouldn't shut up for weeks. But he's been media-whoring since the hub-bub around last year's Arizona anti-illegal immigration law.
So weeks are greater then decades now?
Quote from: Valmy on September 02, 2011, 09:31:48 AM
He is the higher-up....
In his own head, sure. The county sheriff? I'm thinking that that kind of hardware should be cleared with the National Guard...
Quote from: Razgovory on September 02, 2011, 09:37:57 AM
Quote from: derspiess on March 25, 2011, 05:09:00 PM
Quote from: DGuller on March 25, 2011, 04:23:37 PM
Oh, please. :rolleyes: Dupnik said one hasty thing after a public shooting, nobody knew who he was before this January.
One thing? He wouldn't shut up for weeks. But he's been media-whoring since the hub-bub around last year's Arizona anti-illegal immigration law.
So weeks are greater then decades now?
Dupnik is no Arpaio as I have never heard of him and have no idea what Spicey is talking about. Celebrity-wannabe fail.
Here is one other thing I don't get: why does he need an SPG? It hardly seems practical in an urban environment. Wouldn't something like Bradley be more useful, given the likely foes he would encounter?
Quote from: Valmy on September 02, 2011, 08:28:03 AM
Quote from: DGuller on September 02, 2011, 08:26:29 AM
I'm still in disbelief that someone like Arpaio hasn't been brought down yet. I guess that says a lot about Arizona, that a sheriff intent on running a police state is one of the most powerful politicians there.
The guy has an amazing knack for getting publicity and attracting fame. He is a celebrity and Americans love those people.
The guy has an amazing knack for finding military equipment. How did he get what appears to be self-propelled 155mm gun? What possible use does have for it? Bombard a suspects house from the safety of another county?
Quote from: Valmy on September 02, 2011, 09:42:58 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on September 02, 2011, 09:37:57 AM
Quote from: derspiess on March 25, 2011, 05:09:00 PM
Quote from: DGuller on March 25, 2011, 04:23:37 PM
Oh, please. :rolleyes: Dupnik said one hasty thing after a public shooting, nobody knew who he was before this January.
One thing? He wouldn't shut up for weeks. But he's been media-whoring since the hub-bub around last year's Arizona anti-illegal immigration law.
So weeks are greater then decades now?
Dupnik is no Arpaio as I have never heard of him and have no idea what Spicey is talking about. Celebrity-wannabe fail.
Spicey was hurt when the sheriff thought the shooter of Gabriel Gifford was a Tea Party type.
Quote from: DGuller on September 02, 2011, 09:45:31 AM
Here is one other thing I don't get: why does he need an SPG? It hardly seems practical in an urban environment. Wouldn't something like Bradley be more useful, given the likely foes he would encounter?
Well, he also brought a bomb defusing robot, in case one of the chickens was rigged to blow. Of course a normal law enforcement agency would have just brought a few squad cars and a van. Perhaps a truck to transport the chickens. It must be a very wealthy county to afford the use of a artillery, robots, and a Hollywood Kung Fu actor for a class 5 felony.
Quote from: Razgovory on September 02, 2011, 10:19:47 AM
Well, he also brought a bomb defusing robot, in case one of the chickens was rigged to blow.
:hmm:
CDM supports puppy-killing.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on March 25, 2011, 06:01:52 PM
Quote from: derspiess on March 25, 2011, 05:26:27 PM
I would have put zimmerit paste on it & painted it gray :ph34r:
That's a lot of spackle.
It looks like self propelled artillery to me, not a self propelled gun. :nerd:
Its an obsolete M109 with the old short gun.
Civilians call anything with tracks and armor a tank.
Quote from: Siege on September 02, 2011, 11:44:40 AM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on March 25, 2011, 06:01:52 PM
Quote from: derspiess on March 25, 2011, 05:26:27 PM
I would have put zimmerit paste on it & painted it gray :ph34r:
That's a lot of spackle.
It looks like self propelled artillery to me, not a self propelled gun. :nerd:
Its an obsolete M109 with the old short gun.
Civilians call anything with tracks and armor a tank.
Still I wonder what the fuck good a howitzer would do against criminals even well armed ones.
Quote from: Siege on September 02, 2011, 11:44:40 AM
Its an obsolete M109 with the old short gun.
Civilians call anything with tracks and armor a tank.
And Military types are really picky on what they call a tank. Using the definition that the military uses for a tank, most WWI tanks were really not tanks. Despite being the first vehicles called tanks.
Sheriff joe... :wub:
Quote from: Cecil on September 02, 2011, 11:47:12 AM
Still I wonder what the fuck good a howitzer would do against criminals even well armed ones.
Maybe you could use it to soften up the neighborhood before trying to arrest someone. :unsure:
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Run over Hippies
Run over guidos
Run over hipsters
Run over Glittertards
Plenty of uses.
Quote from: Ed Anger on September 02, 2011, 11:54:23 AM
Run over Hippies
Run over guidos
Run over hipsters
Run over Glittertards
Plenty of uses.
You forgot:
Run over puppies.
Quote from: Ed Anger on September 02, 2011, 11:54:23 AM
Run over Hippies
Run over guidos
Run over hipsters
Run over Glittertards
Plenty of uses.
I could do that with my old Dodge Shadow.
Quote from: DGuller on September 02, 2011, 11:53:24 AM
Quote from: Cecil on September 02, 2011, 11:47:12 AM
Still I wonder what the fuck good a howitzer would do against criminals even well armed ones.
Maybe you could use it to soften up the neighborhood before trying to arrest someone. :unsure:
Good idea. A 155mm artillery round would discourage any resistance from cockfighters.
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Quote from: Siege on September 02, 2011, 12:14:15 PM
Quote from: DGuller on September 02, 2011, 11:53:24 AM
Quote from: Cecil on September 02, 2011, 11:47:12 AM
Still I wonder what the fuck good a howitzer would do against criminals even well armed ones.
Maybe you could use it to soften up the neighborhood before trying to arrest someone. :unsure:
Good idea. A 155mm artillery round would discourage any resistance from cockfighters.
Well in that case why not bring backthe New Jersey and plunk it down in the LA harbour. I figure it would be of much use against the plentiful criminals and those 16 inch guns has a nice reach.
Quote from: Razgovory on September 02, 2011, 09:53:48 AM
Spicey was hurt when the sheriff thought the shooter of Gabriel Gifford was a Tea Party type.
Well, he certainly had a problem with the currency. :hmm:
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on September 02, 2011, 02:30:24 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on September 02, 2011, 09:53:48 AM
Spicey was hurt when the sheriff thought the shooter of Gabriel Gifford was a Tea Party type.
Well, he certainly had a problem with the currency. :hmm:
And he was a certifiable nut. :hmm:
This shit is surreal. Every time I think Poland is fucked up, there is some place in the US to up the ante. :lol:
Quote from: Martinus on September 02, 2011, 02:38:21 PM
This shit is surreal. Every time I think Poland is fucked up, there is some place in the US to up the ante. :lol:
We have hundreds of local juridictions with remarkable degrees of autonomy and 300 million people. The probability that something hilariously stupid and fucked up is going on somewhere at any one time is practically 100%. Which, incidentally, makes it easy for the unscrupulous to find outrages to keep people frothing politically.
Quote from: Razgovory on September 02, 2011, 09:51:42 AM
The guy has an amazing knack for finding military equipment. How did he get what appears to be self-propelled 155mm gun?
I think even civilians can buy that shit assuming the guns are somehow disabled. When I was a kid there was this eccentric old guy who lived in my county that had a tank he used to keep parked in his front yard. We used to drive by his house on the way to and from Scout camp and we'd all shout "YEEEEAH, tank guy!" when we drove by. He used to drive it in Memorial Day and 4th of July parades.
Here we go: Sir Hockey's dream ride :cool:
http://www.armyjeeps.net/T55NewA/russian_t55_main_battle_tank.htm (http://www.armyjeeps.net/T55NewA/russian_t55_main_battle_tank.htm)
Quote from: Caliga on September 03, 2011, 01:17:13 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on September 02, 2011, 09:51:42 AM
The guy has an amazing knack for finding military equipment. How did he get what appears to be self-propelled 155mm gun?
I think even civilians can buy that shit assuming the guns are somehow disabled. When I was a kid there was this eccentric old guy who lived in my county that had a tank he used to keep parked in his front yard. We used to drive by his house on the way to and from Scout camp and we'd all shout "YEEEEAH, tank guy!" when we drove by. He used to drive it in Memorial Day and 4th of July parades.
We had a science teacher at my High School that had a ton of shit. He was even on one of those awful shows with his tanks. Real people or some such shit.
Quote from: DontSayBanana on September 02, 2011, 09:39:10 AM
Quote from: Valmy on September 02, 2011, 09:31:48 AM
He is the higher-up....
In his own head, sure. The county sheriff? I'm thinking that that kind of hardware should be cleared with the National Guard...
Maybe it should be, but the National Guard isn't in his chain of command.
Quote from: Razgovory on September 02, 2011, 12:00:37 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on September 02, 2011, 11:54:23 AM
Run over Hippies
Run over guidos
Run over hipsters
Run over Glittertards
Plenty of uses.
I could do that with my old Dodge Shadow.
You'd be amazed how much better AFVs are at that sort of thing.
Quote from: Neil on September 03, 2011, 02:04:18 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on September 02, 2011, 12:00:37 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on September 02, 2011, 11:54:23 AM
Run over Hippies
Run over guidos
Run over hipsters
Run over Glittertards
Plenty of uses.
I could do that with my old Dodge Shadow.
You'd be amazed how much better AFVs are at that sort of thing.
I dunno, I hit a lot of stuff with that car. The power steering and brakes kept failing. That's remarkably inconvenient on the highway.