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Title: Lesbian beats black man to become mayor of the South's Largest City
Post by: Faeelin on December 13, 2009, 02:46:46 PM
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Published: December 12, 2009
HOUSTON — Houston became the largest city in the United States to elect an openly gay mayor on Saturday night, as voters gave a solid victory to the city controller, Annise Parker.

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Houston Mayor-elect Annise Parker, center, celebrates with her partner Kathy Hubbard, left, Parker's runoff election victory at a campaign party on Saturday in Houston.

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Annise Parker, the city controller, arriving at her election night party.
Cheers and dancing erupted at Ms. Parker's campaign party as her opponent, fellow Democrat Gene Locke, a former city attorney, conceded defeat just after 10 p.m. when it became clear he could not overcome her lead.

Twenty minutes later, Ms. Parker appeared before ecstatic supporters at the city's convention center and then joked that she was the first graduate of Rice University to be elected mayor. (She is, by the way.) Then she grew serious.

"Tonight the voters of Houston have opened the door to history," she said, standing by her partner of 19 years, Kathy Hubbard, and their three adopted children. "I acknowledge that. I embrace that. I know what this win means to many of us who never thought we could achieve high office."

With all precincts reporting, Ms. Parker had defeated Mr. Locke by 53 percent to 47 percent.

Throughout the campaign, Ms. Parker tried to avoid making an issue of her sexual orientation and emphasized her experience in overseeing the city's finances. But she began her career as an advocate for gay rights in the 1980s, and it was lost on no one in Houston, a city of 2.2 million people, that her election marked a milestone for gay men and lesbians around the country.

Several smaller cities in other regions have chosen openly gay mayors, among them Providence, R.I., Portland, Ore., and Cambridge, Mass. But Ms. Parker's success came in a conservative state where voters have outlawed gay marriage and a city where a referendum on granting benefits to same-sex partners of city employees was soundly defeated.

Turnout was light across the city on a rainy, foggy day, with only about 16 percent of registered voters going to the polls.

Ms. Parker's sexual orientation did not become an issue in the race until after the general election produced no winner and led to a run-off between her and Mr. Locke, who is black and enjoys strong support among African-American voters.

The two Democrats differed very little on the issues. Mr. Locke, who is 61, promised to crack down on crime and expand the police department. Ms. Parker, 53, said her experience as controller made her a better candidate to steer the city through the tough financial times it now faces.

The candidates also started slinging stones at one another in final weeks as it became clear neither had a huge advantage in the few polls conducted here. Mr. Locke bashed Ms. Parker as "soft on crime" and suggested she favors tax increases. She portrayed him as nothing more than a lobbyist for developers.

But the ugliest attacks came from a group of black pastors who spoke out against Ms. Parker for what they called her gay agenda and two separate anti-gay advocates who sent out fliers in the mail calling attention to her support from gay groups and to her relationship with her partner. Mr. Locke denied having anything to do with the attacks, but two members of his finance committee gave $40,000 to help finance one of the mailings.

Some national gay-rights groups, meanwhile, came to the aid of Ms. Parker's campaign with money and volunteers to staff telephone banks in a get-out-the-vote effort and to urge her likely supporters to vote.

Political strategists said that to win, Mr. Locke needed to carry a large majority of the black vote, which is usually around a third of the turnout, and to attract significant support from conservative whites, many of them Republicans, who are also about a third of the voting mix here.

The crowd at Ms. Parker's speech included dozens of young gay men and lesbians who had volunteered on her campaign. Many were elated with the sense of history being made.

"It's a huge step forward for Houston," said one of the volunteers, Lindsey Dionne, who is lesbian. "It shows hate will not prevail in this city."

Robert Shipman, who is gay and worked long hours for Ms. Parker, said: "The diversity in this room, it's not just gay people, it's gay, straight, black, white, Jew, Christian, Muslim, every kind of person. It took all of us to get to this point."

For his part, Mr. Locke was gracious in defeat, calling for unity after what had sometimes been a heated campaign. "We have to all work together to bring our city closer and closer together," he said.

Ms. Parker appeared to have cobbled together a winning coalition of white liberals and gay people, who were expected to turn out in large numbers.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/13/us/politics/13houston.html
Title: Re: Lesbian beats black man to become mayor of the South's Largest City
Post by: Neil on December 13, 2009, 02:48:24 PM
That's Texas, not the South.
Title: Re: Lesbian beats black man to become mayor of the South's Largest City
Post by: ulmont on December 13, 2009, 02:53:38 PM
Also not sure Houston is the largest if you count the MSA.
Title: Re: Lesbian beats black man to become mayor of the South's Largest City
Post by: citizen k on December 13, 2009, 03:26:02 PM
Quote from: Neil on December 13, 2009, 02:48:24 PM
That's Texas, not the South.
Houston is more south than cowboy.
Title: Re: Lesbian beats black man to become mayor of the South's Largest City
Post by: Fate on December 13, 2009, 03:29:55 PM
East Texas is part of the South.

I voted for Parker. :yeah: This race was basically Democrat vs Democrat. The Republican lost in the first round a few weeks ago.

Quote from: ulmont on December 13, 2009, 02:53:38 PM
Also not sure Houston is the largest if you count the MSA.

What city is larger?
Title: Re: Lesbian beats black man to become mayor of the South's Largest City
Post by: MadBurgerMaker on December 13, 2009, 03:31:38 PM
Quote from: ulmont on December 13, 2009, 02:53:38 PM
Also not sure Houston is the largest if you count the MSA.

DFW is bigger metro wise, but you don't get elected mayor of the metro area.
Title: Re: Lesbian beats black man to become mayor of the South's Largest City
Post by: Scipio on December 13, 2009, 03:38:47 PM
I liked how in her speech she first stated that she made history as the first graduate of Rice University to be elected mayor of Houston.
Title: Re: Lesbian beats black man to become mayor of the South's Largest City
Post by: Mr.Penguin on December 13, 2009, 03:55:52 PM
First when I saw the head line, I though that she had physically beaten up a black guy, in order to gain the voters approval...:blush:
Title: Re: Lesbian beats black man to become mayor of the South's Largest City
Post by: Crazy_Ivan80 on December 13, 2009, 03:59:49 PM
Quote from: Mr.Penguin on December 13, 2009, 03:55:52 PM
First when I saw the head line, I though that she had physically beaten up a black guy, in order to gain the voters approval...:blush:

heh, you're not the only one  :blush:
Title: Re: Lesbian beats black man to become mayor of the South's Largest City
Post by: Tonitrus on December 13, 2009, 04:23:55 PM
The question Languishites really want answered...lipstick or bulk-dyke?
Title: Re: Lesbian beats black man to become mayor of the South's Largest City
Post by: Drakken on December 13, 2009, 07:26:52 PM
Quote from: ulmont on December 13, 2009, 02:53:38 PM
Also not sure Houston is the largest if you count the MSA.

It is certainly the fattest, though.
Title: Re: Lesbian beats black man to become mayor of the South's Largest City
Post by: Habbaku on December 13, 2009, 09:07:41 PM
Quote from: Tonitrus on December 13, 2009, 04:23:55 PM
The question Languishites really want answered...lipstick or bulk-dyke?

Not sure what a "bulk-dyke" is, but here's the lady.  She's not a monster, but not exactly attractive :

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.outsmartmagazine.com%2Fissue%2Fi01-03%2Fimagesforarticles%2FPeopleToWatchAnnise.jpg&hash=da63344e2777af8680760806ad5120cc78ea18b8)
Title: Re: Lesbian beats black man to become mayor of the South's Largest City
Post by: Admiral Yi on December 13, 2009, 09:12:33 PM
Bull dyke hair do, bull dyke figure, lipstick clothes and lipstick..er, lipstick.

She's a hybrid.

Face is kinda cute. 
Title: Re: Lesbian beats black man to become mayor of the South's Largest City
Post by: KRonn on December 13, 2009, 09:27:22 PM
Looks like a racist vote!!    ;)
Title: Re: Lesbian beats black man to become mayor of the South's Largest City
Post by: Valmy on December 13, 2009, 09:52:48 PM
Quote from: Neil on December 13, 2009, 02:48:24 PM
That's Texas, not the South.

Thank you!
Title: Re: Lesbian beats black man to become mayor of the South's Largest City
Post by: Valmy on December 13, 2009, 09:54:08 PM
Quote from: citizen k on December 13, 2009, 03:26:02 PM
Houston is more south than cowboy.

Houston is an Oil town, a huge international port, and has a massive foreign population.  I am not sure how that sounds like Alabama what whateva.
Title: Re: Lesbian beats black man to become mayor of the South's Largest City
Post by: Valmy on December 13, 2009, 09:56:40 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on December 13, 2009, 09:07:41 PM
She's not a monster, but not exactly attractive :

Dude she is a middle aged politician...

I mean really does anybody really care who old ladies have sex with?  Her being a lesbian is simply not very interesting information at this point.
Title: Re: Lesbian beats black man to become mayor of the South's Largest City
Post by: Admiral Yi on December 13, 2009, 10:12:08 PM
The fact that she is a lesbian is not intrinsically more interesting than the fact that Barak Obama is black, Sonia Sotomayor is Latina, and Nancy Pelosi is a shrill harpie of a woman with ghastly plastic surgery who has a blind eye to ethical abuses and does not mean what she says.
Title: Re: Lesbian beats black man to become mayor of the South's Largest City
Post by: Faeelin on December 13, 2009, 10:17:12 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on December 13, 2009, 10:12:08 PM
The fact that she is a lesbian is not intrinsically more interesting than the fact that Barak Obama is black, Sonia Sotomayor is Latina, and Nancy Pelosi is a shrill harpie of a woman with ghastly plastic surgery who has a blind eye to ethical abuses and does not mean what she says.

If intrinsically means "Ignoring a history of discrimination based on sexual orientation in America," then yes. Even today her opponent tried to tar her by warning that her election would be another step in the legitimization of the homosexual lifestyle.
Title: Re: Lesbian beats black man to become mayor of the South's Largest City
Post by: Faeelin on December 13, 2009, 10:18:44 PM
Quote from: Valmy on December 13, 2009, 09:52:48 PM
Quote from: Neil on December 13, 2009, 02:48:24 PM
That's Texas, not the South.

Thank you!

OTOH, my Texan roommate disagrees with you.
Title: Re: Lesbian beats black man to become mayor of the South's Largest City
Post by: Admiral Yi on December 13, 2009, 10:19:17 PM
Quote from: Faeelin on December 13, 2009, 10:17:12 PM
If intrinsically means "Ignoring a history of discrimination based on sexual orientation in America," then yes.
:huh:
I'm pretty sure that's not what intrinsically means.
Title: Re: Lesbian beats black man to become mayor of the South's Largest City
Post by: Valmy on December 13, 2009, 10:21:19 PM
Quote from: Faeelin on December 13, 2009, 10:17:12 PM
If intrinsically means "Ignoring a history of discrimination based on sexual orientation in America," then yes.

I only meant from a Languish perv perspective :P

QuoteEven today her opponent tried to tar her by warning that her election would be another step in the legitimization of the homosexual lifestyle.

:nelson homophobic loser dude.

Title: Re: Lesbian beats black man to become mayor of the South's Largest City
Post by: Valmy on December 13, 2009, 10:22:10 PM
Quote from: Faeelin on December 13, 2009, 10:18:44 PM
OTOH, my Texan roommate disagrees with you.

Traitor to Texas.  Your roomate makes me sick.  Tell him to move to Arkansas where he belongs.
Title: Re: Lesbian beats black man to become mayor of the South's Largest City
Post by: Faeelin on December 13, 2009, 10:22:50 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on December 13, 2009, 10:19:17 PM
Quote from: Faeelin on December 13, 2009, 10:17:12 PM
If intrinsically means "Ignoring a history of discrimination based on sexual orientation in America," then yes.
:huh:
I'm pretty sure that's not what intrinsically means.

I mean, what's your point? Yes, in an ideal world her sexual orientation would be a footnote at best to her candidacy, but that is nto the world we live in.
Title: Re: Lesbian beats black man to become mayor of the South's Largest City
Post by: katmai on December 13, 2009, 10:23:12 PM
As soon as you move to Maryland you carpetbagging Redskin fan!
Title: Re: Lesbian beats black man to become mayor of the South's Largest City
Post by: Faeelin on December 13, 2009, 10:23:22 PM
Quote from: Valmy on December 13, 2009, 10:22:10 PM
Quote from: Faeelin on December 13, 2009, 10:18:44 PM
OTOH, my Texan roommate disagrees with you.

Traitor to Texas.  Your roomate makes me sick.  Tell him to move to Arkansas where he belongs.

Actually he's originally from Alaska, and hads the hipster/stoner vibe that reminds me of you.
Title: Re: Lesbian beats black man to become mayor of the South's Largest City
Post by: Valmy on December 13, 2009, 10:24:21 PM
Quote from: katmai on December 13, 2009, 10:23:12 PM
As soon as you move to Maryland you carpetbagging Redskin fan!

:blush:
Title: Re: Lesbian beats black man to become mayor of the South's Largest City
Post by: Valmy on December 13, 2009, 10:25:19 PM
Quote from: Faeelin on December 13, 2009, 10:23:22 PM
Actually he's originally from Alaska, and hads the hipster/stoner vibe that reminds me of you.

Alaska-Texan?  What a strange combo.  Anyway yes hipster/stoner that is all me.
Title: Re: Lesbian beats black man to become mayor of the South's Largest City
Post by: Faeelin on December 13, 2009, 10:26:26 PM
Quote from: Valmy on December 13, 2009, 10:25:19 PM
Quote from: Faeelin on December 13, 2009, 10:23:22 PM
Actually he's originally from Alaska, and hads the hipster/stoner vibe that reminds me of you.

Alaska-Texan?  What a strange combo.  Anyway yes hipster/stoner that is all me.

Oil, I think. Now the poor sap wants to help people as  a lawyer.
Title: Re: Lesbian beats black man to become mayor of the South's Largest City
Post by: katmai on December 13, 2009, 10:27:00 PM
Quote from: Valmy on December 13, 2009, 10:25:19 PM
Quote from: Faeelin on December 13, 2009, 10:23:22 PM
Actually he's originally from Alaska, and hads the hipster/stoner vibe that reminds me of you.

Alaska-Texan?  What a strange combo.

Don't be dissing my daddy!

Actually too many Alaskans with Texas/Oklahoma roots with this being an Oil state.
Title: Re: Lesbian beats black man to become mayor of the South's Largest City
Post by: Admiral Yi on December 13, 2009, 10:29:30 PM
Quote from: Faeelin on December 13, 2009, 10:22:50 PM
I mean, what's your point? Yes, in an ideal world her sexual orientation would be a footnote at best to her candidacy, but that is nto the world we live in.
My point is that firsts are symbolically important, and how firsts act after they've broken the barrier often influence judgements about the larger group.
Title: Re: Lesbian beats black man to become mayor of the South's Largest City
Post by: Faeelin on December 13, 2009, 10:30:07 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on December 13, 2009, 10:29:30 PM
Quote from: Faeelin on December 13, 2009, 10:22:50 PM
I mean, what's your point? Yes, in an ideal world her sexual orientation would be a footnote at best to her candidacy, but that is nto the world we live in.
My point is that firsts are symbolically important, and how firsts act after they've broken the barrier often influence judgements about the larger group.

That also doesn't seem to be what intrinsically means.
Title: Re: Lesbian beats black man to become mayor of the South's Largest City
Post by: Valmy on December 13, 2009, 10:31:10 PM
Quote from: katmai on December 13, 2009, 10:27:00 PM
Actually too many Alaskans with Texas/Oklahoma roots with this being an Oil state.

No wonder Alaska is such a great place!

Wait was your father: Tejano?
Title: Re: Lesbian beats black man to become mayor of the South's Largest City
Post by: katmai on December 13, 2009, 10:32:48 PM
Quote from: Valmy on December 13, 2009, 10:31:10 PM
Quote from: katmai on December 13, 2009, 10:27:00 PM
Actually too many Alaskans with Texas/Oklahoma roots with this being an Oil state.

No wonder Alaska is such a great place!

Wait was your father: Tejano?

Uh yes,

He was born in El Paso, but the family is from San Antonio and Laredo. When he isn't working on pipeline he goes back to San Antonio :P
Title: Re: Lesbian beats black man to become mayor of the South's Largest City
Post by: Admiral Yi on December 13, 2009, 10:33:24 PM
Quote from: Faeelin on December 13, 2009, 10:30:07 PM
That also doesn't seem to be what intrinsically means.
No argument there.
Title: Re: Lesbian beats black man to become mayor of the South's Largest City
Post by: Valmy on December 13, 2009, 10:41:48 PM
Quote from: katmai on December 13, 2009, 10:32:48 PM
Uh yes,

He was born in El Paso, but the family is from San Antonio and Laredo. When he isn't working on pipeline he goes back to San Antonio :P

Valmy approves (+25)

So you never go to San Antonio?  :(
Title: Re: Lesbian beats black man to become mayor of the South's Largest City
Post by: katmai on December 13, 2009, 11:00:27 PM
Quote from: Valmy on December 13, 2009, 10:41:48 PM
Quote from: katmai on December 13, 2009, 10:32:48 PM
Uh yes,

He was born in El Paso, but the family is from San Antonio and Laredo. When he isn't working on pipeline he goes back to San Antonio :P

Valmy approves (+25)

So you never go to San Antonio?  :(

Not if i can help it :lol:

Usually too hot for me.
Title: Re: Lesbian beats black man to become mayor of the South's Largest City
Post by: Martinus on December 14, 2009, 02:10:11 AM
Quote from: Valmy on December 13, 2009, 09:56:40 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on December 13, 2009, 09:07:41 PM
She's not a monster, but not exactly attractive :

Dude she is a middle aged politician...

I mean really does anybody really care who old ladies have sex with?  Her being a lesbian is simply not very interesting information at this point.

Politics: Showbiz for ugly people. :yes:
Title: Re: Lesbian beats black man to become mayor of the South's Largest City
Post by: DisturbedPervert on December 14, 2009, 02:10:57 AM
Quote from: Valmy on December 13, 2009, 09:56:40 PM
I mean really does anybody really care who old ladies have sex with? 

Old people don't have sex   :mad:
Title: Re: Lesbian beats black man to become mayor of the South's Largest City
Post by: Martinus on December 14, 2009, 02:15:51 AM
Speaking of old people, politics and sex, the recent headline in Poland is a mobile phone film featuring a 50-something Senator from the conservative ruling Civic Platform, partying with hookers while dressed in a flowery woman's dress and snorting coke. :face:

I kinda feel sorry for the dude, because as conservative politicians go, he was rather decent and reasonable.
Title: Re: Lesbian beats black man to become mayor of the South's Largest City
Post by: katmai on December 14, 2009, 02:18:46 AM
Quote from: Martinus on December 14, 2009, 02:15:51 AM
Speaking of old people, politics and sex, the recent headline in Poland is a mobile phone film featuring a 50-something Senator from the conservative ruling Civic Platform, partying with hookers while dressed in a flowery woman's dress and snorting coke. :face:

I kinda feel sorry for the dude, because as conservative politicians go, he was rather decent and reasonable.

Well he liked to cross dress so obviously something wrong with him, but at least he likes woman. :P
Title: Re: Lesbian beats black man to become mayor of the South's Largest City
Post by: Martinus on December 14, 2009, 02:19:33 AM
Quote from: katmai on December 14, 2009, 02:18:46 AM
Quote from: Martinus on December 14, 2009, 02:15:51 AM
Speaking of old people, politics and sex, the recent headline in Poland is a mobile phone film featuring a 50-something Senator from the conservative ruling Civic Platform, partying with hookers while dressed in a flowery woman's dress and snorting coke. :face:

I kinda feel sorry for the dude, because as conservative politicians go, he was rather decent and reasonable.

Well he liked to cross dress so obviously something wrong with him, but at least he likes woman. :P

Troll. :P
Title: Re: Lesbian beats black man to become mayor of the South's Largest City
Post by: katmai on December 14, 2009, 02:24:11 AM
Quote from: Martinus on December 14, 2009, 02:19:33 AM
Quote from: katmai on December 14, 2009, 02:18:46 AM
Quote from: Martinus on December 14, 2009, 02:15:51 AM
Speaking of old people, politics and sex, the recent headline in Poland is a mobile phone film featuring a 50-something Senator from the conservative ruling Civic Platform, partying with hookers while dressed in a flowery woman's dress and snorting coke. :face:

I kinda feel sorry for the dude, because as conservative politicians go, he was rather decent and reasonable.

Well he liked to cross dress so obviously something wrong with him, but at least he likes woman. :P

Troll. :P

I'm taking lessons from Jaron!
Title: Re: Lesbian beats black man to become mayor of the South's Largest City
Post by: Martinus on December 14, 2009, 02:48:07 AM
YUO: FAIL.

It was too obvious.
Title: Re: Lesbian beats black man to become mayor of the South's Largest City
Post by: katmai on December 14, 2009, 04:06:31 AM
Quote from: Martinus on December 14, 2009, 02:48:07 AM
YUO: FAIL.

It was too obvious.
Like I said, i'm taking lessons from jaron.
Title: Re: Lesbian beats black man to become mayor of the South's Largest City
Post by: Eddie Teach on December 14, 2009, 12:41:46 PM
Quote from: Valmy on December 13, 2009, 09:54:08 PM
Houston is an Oil town, a huge international port, and has a massive foreign population.  I am not sure how that sounds like Alabama what whateva.

Hey, we have a massive foreign population and a huge international airport, doesn't mean we're not part of the South. I don't know why everyone insists on conflating "Southern" and "rural."
Title: Re: Lesbian beats black man to become mayor of the South's Largest City
Post by: Valmy on December 14, 2009, 01:15:31 PM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on December 14, 2009, 12:41:46 PM
Hey, we have a massive foreign population and a huge international airport, doesn't mean we're not part of the South. I don't know why everyone insists on conflating "Southern" and "rural."

What are the qualities a "Southern" urban area would have versus a "Western" or "Northern" one?
Title: Re: Lesbian beats black man to become mayor of the South's Largest City
Post by: MadImmortalMan on December 14, 2009, 01:30:38 PM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on December 14, 2009, 12:41:46 PM
Quote from: Valmy on December 13, 2009, 09:54:08 PM
Houston is an Oil town, a huge international port, and has a massive foreign population.  I am not sure how that sounds like Alabama what whateva.

Hey, we have a massive foreign population and a huge international airport, doesn't mean we're not part of the South. I don't know why everyone insists on conflating "Southern" and "rural."

As I've mentioned before, when I moved to Houston from Ohio all the Vietnamese, Chinese, Bangladeshis, Indians, Phillipinos, Cubans, Mexicans, Russians, South Africans and Guatemalans called me Yankee. They may be every color of the rainbow, but they're still Texans.  :P

Title: Re: Lesbian beats black man to become mayor of the South's Largest City
Post by: ulmont on December 14, 2009, 01:35:36 PM
Quote from: Valmy on December 14, 2009, 01:15:31 PM
What are the qualities a "Southern" urban area would have versus a "Western" or "Northern" one?

Geographic location, duh.   :P
Title: Re: Lesbian beats black man to become mayor of the South's Largest City
Post by: Valmy on December 14, 2009, 01:35:43 PM
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on December 14, 2009, 01:30:38 PM
As I've mentioned before, when I moved to Houston from Ohio all the Vietnamese, Chinese, Bangladeshis, Indians, Phillipinos, Cubans, Mexicans, Russians, South Africans and Guatemalans called me Yankee. They may be every color of the rainbow, but they're still Texans.  :P

We integrate our immigrants fast.  It is hard not to when you are as fabulous as we are.
Title: Re: Lesbian beats black man to become mayor of the South's Largest City
Post by: Eddie Teach on December 14, 2009, 02:11:00 PM
Quote from: ulmont on December 14, 2009, 01:35:36 PM
Geographic location, duh.   :P

And subtle differences in the culture of the residents.
Title: Re: Lesbian beats black man to become mayor of the South's Largest City
Post by: Admiral Yi on December 14, 2009, 02:14:34 PM
Cooking with Crisco.
Title: Re: Lesbian beats black man to become mayor of the South's Largest City
Post by: Caliga on December 14, 2009, 02:36:37 PM
 :mad: The South's largest city is either Atlanta or Jacksonville depending on how you define 'largest'.

Houston isn't the largest because Houston isn't in the South.  Houston is in Texas, and Texas isn't the South.  Texas is Texas.  :)
Title: Re: Lesbian beats black man to become mayor of the South's Largest City
Post by: Valmy on December 14, 2009, 02:41:29 PM
Quote from: Caliga on December 14, 2009, 02:36:37 PM
:mad: The South's largest city is either Atlanta or Jacksonville depending on how you define 'largest'.

Houston isn't the largest because Houston isn't in the South.  Houston is in Texas, and Texas isn't the South.  Texas is Texas.  :)

:hug: :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Lesbian beats black man to become mayor of the South's Largest City
Post by: MadImmortalMan on December 14, 2009, 02:54:39 PM
Houston has been in the top 5 by population since the 80s. I don't think any southern city outside Texas is even in the top ten, but I bet Dallas and SA both are in there somewhere.
Title: Re: Lesbian beats black man to become mayor of the South's Largest City
Post by: Caliga on December 14, 2009, 03:39:16 PM
IIRC Atlanta is #8 nationwide in terms of metro area population.
Title: Re: Lesbian beats black man to become mayor of the South's Largest City
Post by: Martinus on December 14, 2009, 03:48:03 PM
Is the fact that she is a lesbian a big deal in the US? I am just wondering if the US South is more like Poland (where it would have been a big news) or more like, say, Western Europe (where openly gay mayors have been ruling Paris and Berlin for some time now, for example), when it comes to cultural acceptance of gay people.
Title: Re: Lesbian beats black man to become mayor of the South's Largest City
Post by: Caliga on December 14, 2009, 03:51:14 PM
The "US South" is not even close to being homogenous in terms of acceptance of things like homosexuality.

Louisville, Kentucky could conceivably elect a gay mayor.  After all, we have both a liberal Jewish mayor now and a liberal Jewish Representative in US Congress.

Hazard, Kentucky (in the heart of Appalachia): I don't think so.

I suspect a gay mayor could be elected in Atlanta and most of the other larger southern cities.  Maybe not cities on the order of Knoxville and Montgomery, though.
Title: Re: Lesbian beats black man to become mayor of the South's Largest City
Post by: Ed Anger on December 14, 2009, 04:46:24 PM
Quote from: Caliga on December 14, 2009, 03:51:14 PM
The "US South" is not even close to being homogenous in terms of acceptance of things like homosexuality.

Louisville, Kentucky could conceivably elect a gay mayor.  After all, we have both a liberal Jewish mayor now and a liberal Jewish Representative in US Congress.


Stop breaking those southern stereotypes!  :mad:
Title: Re: Lesbian beats black man to become mayor of the South's Largest City
Post by: The Brain on December 14, 2009, 04:59:32 PM
Quote from: Caliga on December 14, 2009, 03:51:14 PM
Louisville, Kentucky could conceivably elect a gay mayor.

You don't have to convince Languish that Louisville suXX0rz, Cal.
Title: Re: Lesbian beats black man to become mayor of the South's Largest City
Post by: Admiral Yi on December 14, 2009, 05:07:47 PM
Quote from: Caliga on December 14, 2009, 03:51:14 PM
I suspect a gay mayor could be elected in Atlanta and most of the other larger southern cities.
Isn't Atlanta majority black now?  That presents its own issues.
Title: Re: Lesbian beats black man to become mayor of the South's Largest City
Post by: ulmont on December 14, 2009, 05:55:30 PM
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on December 14, 2009, 02:54:39 PM
Houston has been in the top 5 by population since the 80s. I don't think any southern city outside Texas is even in the top ten, but I bet Dallas and SA both are in there somewhere.

By Census Metro areas:

New York,
Los Angeles,
Chicago,
Dallas,
Philadelphia,
Houston,
Miami,
Atlanta,
Washington,
Boston
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Table_of_United_States_Metropolitan_Statistical_Areas
Title: Re: Lesbian beats black man to become mayor of the South's Largest City
Post by: ulmont on December 14, 2009, 05:58:14 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on December 14, 2009, 05:07:47 PM
Isn't Atlanta majority black now?  That presents its own issues.

Atlanta has been majority black for decades.  The percentage has been dropping, though (current estimate 55.8% plus or minus 5.6 percent), which is part of why the latest mayor's race had the white candidate come around 700 votes behind the black candidate.
Title: Re: Lesbian beats black man to become mayor of the South's Largest City
Post by: Eddie Teach on December 14, 2009, 06:04:21 PM
Atlanta proper is rather small as well, around 500k. On those lists it's about 35th in the country.
Title: Re: Lesbian beats black man to become mayor of the South's Largest City
Post by: ulmont on December 14, 2009, 06:05:48 PM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on December 14, 2009, 06:04:21 PM
Atlanta proper is rather small as well, around 500k. On those lists it's about 35th in the country.

Yeah, but number 8 if you include the entire metro area.  Atlanta's border being incredibly artificial, "Atlanta proper" has next to zero meaning.

33: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_cities_by_population
Title: Re: Lesbian beats black man to become mayor of the South's Largest City
Post by: Eddie Teach on December 14, 2009, 06:12:35 PM
It's meaningful in comparing city governments. So Giuliani had a pretty solid claim to "executive experience" as he governed a city of 8 million.

For general purposes I agree metro area is better.
Title: Re: Lesbian beats black man to become mayor of the South's Largest City
Post by: Caliga on December 14, 2009, 06:42:47 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on December 14, 2009, 05:07:47 PM
Isn't Atlanta majority black now?  That presents its own issues.
Excellent point. :ph34r:
Title: Re: Lesbian beats black man to become mayor of the South's Largest City
Post by: Valmy on December 15, 2009, 08:54:13 AM
Quote from: Martinus on December 14, 2009, 03:48:03 PM
Is the fact that she is a lesbian a big deal in the US? I am just wondering if the US South is more like Poland (where it would have been a big news) or more like, say, Western Europe (where openly gay mayors have been ruling Paris and Berlin for some time now, for example), when it comes to cultural acceptance of gay people.

Well this is the only place I have heard about it anywhere.  Nobody is acting like it is a big deal here.

Frankly most people do not really give a rats ass whether somebody is gay or straight it is just political busybodies and assholes who raise a big stink about it.  Fortunately they are shrill losers we can mostly ignore.
Title: Re: Lesbian beats black man to become mayor of the South's Largest City
Post by: Caliga on December 15, 2009, 08:59:20 AM
Marti is under the false impression that US conservatives sit around rubbing their hands all day trying to think of ways to kill and torture gay people.  The reality is the hardly anyone dwells on this issue at all, because in the extremely conservative, mostly rural areas where homosexuality is viewed with horror, all of the gays have either left or are deeply closeted.  Thus there's no reason to obsess over homosexuality because the issue is completely invisible there. :contract:
Title: Re: Lesbian beats black man to become mayor of the South's Largest City
Post by: Valmy on December 15, 2009, 09:08:11 AM
Quote from: Caliga on December 15, 2009, 08:59:20 AM
gays have...left

Yeah and this makes them different from straight people?  Rural areas tend to be aging and shrinking places with few job opportunities or prospects.
Title: Re: Lesbian beats black man to become mayor of the South's Largest City
Post by: Razgovory on December 15, 2009, 09:10:25 AM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on December 13, 2009, 09:12:33 PM
Bull dyke hair do, bull dyke figure, lipstick clothes and lipstick..er, lipstick.

She's a hybrid.

Face is kinda cute.

It's like what Hillary Clinton would look like if she ate Bill Clinton.
Title: Re: Lesbian beats black man to become mayor of the South's Largest City
Post by: Malthus on December 15, 2009, 09:13:37 AM
Quote from: Habbaku on December 13, 2009, 09:07:41 PM
Quote from: Tonitrus on December 13, 2009, 04:23:55 PM
The question Languishites really want answered...lipstick or bulk-dyke?

Not sure what a "bulk-dyke" is, but here's the lady.  She's not a monster, but not exactly attractive :

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.outsmartmagazine.com%2Fissue%2Fi01-03%2Fimagesforarticles%2FPeopleToWatchAnnise.jpg&hash=da63344e2777af8680760806ad5120cc78ea18b8)

For an older lady, she's not bad-looking. A bit heavy-set for my taste, but an attractive face.
Title: Re: Lesbian beats black man to become mayor of the South's Largest City
Post by: Neil on December 15, 2009, 09:29:30 AM
Quote from: Faeelin on December 13, 2009, 10:26:26 PM
Oil, I think. Now the poor sap wants to help people as  a lawyer.
No he doesn't.  People don't become lawyers to help people, they become lawyers to hurt people.  Deciding to become a lawyer is a negative choice, and is invariably fueled by negative emotions.
Title: Re: Lesbian beats black man to become mayor of the South's Largest City
Post by: Neil on December 15, 2009, 09:31:09 AM
Quote from: Malthus on December 15, 2009, 09:13:37 AM
For an older lady, she's not bad-looking. A bit heavy-set for my taste, but an attractive face.
Given the combination of her outfit, her haircut and her expression, she looks like she's in some kind of extremist paramilitary organization.  And given how thoughtlessly destructive political homos can be, she probably is.
Title: Re: Lesbian beats black man to become mayor of the South's Largest City
Post by: Caliga on December 15, 2009, 10:04:58 AM
Quote from: Valmy on December 15, 2009, 09:08:11 AM
Yeah and this makes them different from straight people?  Rural areas tend to be aging and shrinking places with few job opportunities or prospects.
It doesn't, but I never said it did in that regard. ;)
Title: Re: Lesbian beats black man to become mayor of the South's Largest City
Post by: Ed Anger on December 15, 2009, 02:55:52 PM
I was flipping channels yesterday, on the Joy Behar show (stop laughing), the lesbo mayor was on along with the poofter from Frasier. Both were so anti-marty and non-frothing, I got a giggle out of it.

Title: Re: Lesbian beats black man to become mayor of the South's Largest City
Post by: Martinus on December 15, 2009, 06:51:02 PM
Quote from: Neil on December 15, 2009, 09:29:30 AM
Quote from: Faeelin on December 13, 2009, 10:26:26 PM
Oil, I think. Now the poor sap wants to help people as  a lawyer.
No he doesn't.  People don't become lawyers to help people, they become lawyers to hurt people.  Deciding to become a lawyer is a negative choice, and is invariably fueled by negative emotions.

I must be your worst nightmare.  :lol:
Title: Re: Lesbian beats black man to become mayor of the South's Largest City
Post by: Queequeg on December 15, 2009, 07:15:35 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on December 15, 2009, 02:55:52 PM
I was flipping channels yesterday, on the Joy Behar show (stop laughing), the lesbo mayor was on along with the poofter from Frasier. Both were so anti-marty and non-frothing, I got a giggle out of it.
Gay people are frequently awesome.  Every time a gay poster does something silly here, I just remember that a lot of my favorite posters are gay, and my favorite Movie and Novel are both by gay men. 
Title: Re: Lesbian beats black man to become mayor of the South's Largest City
Post by: Ed Anger on December 15, 2009, 07:28:55 PM
Quote from: Queequeg on December 15, 2009, 07:15:35 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on December 15, 2009, 02:55:52 PM
I was flipping channels yesterday, on the Joy Behar show (stop laughing), the lesbo mayor was on along with the poofter from Frasier. Both were so anti-marty and non-frothing, I got a giggle out of it.
Gay people are frequently awesome.  Every time a gay poster does something silly here, I just remember that a lot of my favorite posters are gay, and my favorite Movie and Novel are both by gay men.

Yeah. Except when they wear biker shorts and fruit out in public and when Perez Martinus fruits outs here.

Other than that, the gay is alright.
Title: Re: Lesbian beats black man to become mayor of the South's Largest City
Post by: Kleves on December 15, 2009, 07:41:00 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on December 15, 2009, 07:28:55 PM
Other than that, the gay is alright.
Fag.
Title: Re: Lesbian beats black man to become mayor of the South's Largest City
Post by: Neil on December 15, 2009, 08:04:12 PM
Quote from: Martinus on December 15, 2009, 06:51:02 PM
Quote from: Neil on December 15, 2009, 09:29:30 AM
Quote from: Faeelin on December 13, 2009, 10:26:26 PM
Oil, I think. Now the poor sap wants to help people as  a lawyer.
No he doesn't.  People don't become lawyers to help people, they become lawyers to hurt people.  Deciding to become a lawyer is a negative choice, and is invariably fueled by negative emotions.
I must be your worst nightmare.  :lol:
Not quite.  You work in antitrust law, and have attempted to sow chaos in the marketplace, which is bad.  But you could be a defence attorney, a human rights or environmental lawyer, which is worse.  Or one of those class-action lawyers, like John Edwards.

Of course, the fact that they would allow a homosexual to practice law is a nightmare in and of itself.
Title: Re: Lesbian beats black man to become mayor of the South's Largest City
Post by: derspiess on December 15, 2009, 09:15:28 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on December 15, 2009, 02:55:52 PM
I was flipping channels yesterday,

Words of a guilty man :contract:  It's okay to admit you regularly watch those shows.
Title: Re: Lesbian beats black man to become mayor of the South's Largest City
Post by: Eddie Teach on December 15, 2009, 09:16:21 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on December 15, 2009, 02:55:52 PM
the poofter from Frasier.

The chubby English dude?
Title: Re: Lesbian beats black man to become mayor of the South's Largest City
Post by: Caliga on December 15, 2009, 09:18:33 PM
I thought he meant the dude who plays Niles.
Title: Re: Lesbian beats black man to become mayor of the South's Largest City
Post by: Admiral Yi on December 15, 2009, 09:57:47 PM
I assumed he meant the sports talk guy.
Title: Re: Lesbian beats black man to become mayor of the South's Largest City
Post by: Caliga on December 16, 2009, 08:03:00 AM
Well, they're both homos, but the Bulldog guy isn't nearly as famous as David Hyde Pierce.
Title: Re: Lesbian beats black man to become mayor of the South's Largest City
Post by: Ed Anger on December 16, 2009, 08:17:02 AM
Quote from: Caliga on December 15, 2009, 09:18:33 PM
I thought he meant the dude who plays Niles.

bingo.

I hated that show.
Title: Re: Lesbian beats black man to become mayor of the South's Largest City
Post by: Caliga on December 16, 2009, 08:40:00 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on December 16, 2009, 08:17:02 AM
I hated that show.
:mad:
Title: Re: Lesbian beats black man to become mayor of the South's Largest City
Post by: Tonitrus on December 16, 2009, 08:49:31 AM
I guess she fits more in the third category of lesbian...Ellen Degeneres.
Title: Re: Lesbian beats black man to become mayor of the South's Largest City
Post by: Ed Anger on December 16, 2009, 09:53:41 AM
Quote from: Caliga on December 16, 2009, 08:40:00 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on December 16, 2009, 08:17:02 AM
I hated that show.
:mad:

I annoy people on the internet when I dislike their shows.
Title: Re: Lesbian beats black man to become mayor of the South's Largest City
Post by: Ed Anger on December 16, 2009, 09:55:57 AM
Quote from: Tonitrus on December 16, 2009, 08:49:31 AM
I guess she fits more in the third category of lesbian...Ellen Degeneres.

Early Ellen or Later Ellen?

Early Ellen was like this: I'M A LESBIAN  I'M A LESBIAN  I'M A LESBIAN  I'M A LESBIAN  I'M A LESBIAN
I'M A LESBIAN
I'M A LESBIAN
I'M A LESBIAN
I'M A LESBIAN

Ad infinitum.

Latin phrase used to annoy gay fox.
Title: Re: Lesbian beats black man to become mayor of the South's Largest City
Post by: Eddie Teach on December 16, 2009, 11:04:41 AM
Quote from: Caliga on December 16, 2009, 08:03:00 AM
Well, they're both homos, but the Bulldog guy isn't nearly as famous as David Hyde Pierce.

:lol:

I don't pay much attention to celebrities, so I went with the guy who played a poof *on* the show.

I bet Bulldog dude gets mistaken for Ed Harris frequently.
Title: Re: Lesbian beats black man to become mayor of the South's Largest City
Post by: katmai on December 16, 2009, 11:07:17 AM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on December 16, 2009, 11:04:41 AM


I don't pay much attention to celebrities, so I went with the guy who played a poof *on* the show.


:huh:
Title: Re: Lesbian beats black man to become mayor of the South's Largest City
Post by: Eddie Teach on December 16, 2009, 11:19:21 AM
Niles had a thing for Daphne, Bulldog had one for Roz. So I guessed Ed meant the fruity food critic. (Gil was it?)

Edit- how the fuck did Bulldog get on the cast photos? He was a minor character who appeared in well under half the episodes.
Title: Re: Lesbian beats black man to become mayor of the South's Largest City
Post by: katmai on December 16, 2009, 11:25:35 AM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on December 16, 2009, 11:19:21 AM
Niles had a thing for Daphne, Bulldog had one for Roz. So I guessed Ed meant the fruity food critic. (Gil was it?)

Edit- how the fuck did Bulldog get on the cast photos? He was a minor character who appeared in well under half the episodes.

Yet he was a memorable one.
Title: Re: Lesbian beats black man to become mayor of the South's Largest City
Post by: Valmy on December 16, 2009, 11:25:48 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on December 16, 2009, 09:55:57 AM
Quote from: Tonitrus on December 16, 2009, 08:49:31 AM
I guess she fits more in the third category of lesbian...Ellen Degeneres.

Early Ellen or Later Ellen?

Early Ellen was like this: I'M A LESBIAN  I'M A LESBIAN  I'M A LESBIAN  I'M A LESBIAN  I'M A LESBIAN
I'M A LESBIAN
I'M A LESBIAN
I'M A LESBIAN
I'M A LESBIAN

Ad infinitum.

Latin phrase used to annoy gay fox.

Wait Ellen Degeneres is a lesbian?
Title: Re: Lesbian beats black man to become mayor of the South's Largest City
Post by: Eddie Teach on December 16, 2009, 11:30:31 AM
I wonder why Portia de Rossi married her. Career opportunities or just odd lesbian tastes?