Apocrypha is up, big ass patch for a big ass update. this is going to take a while to download :(
Is it : War?
Have you tested it out yet? Doesn't blow up your computer or house or anything?
Edit: Sweet jesus 1300+ mb.
still downloading... it's a cruel joke by ccp :( The one day I have a bit of time this week.
Whoa....the new POS shields look cool. The new warp graphics are pretty nifty too.
OH GOD THE SKILL QUEUE IS HERE
Ivan, there's another, smaller DL after the main one is finished. It's only like 13mb or something.
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on March 10, 2009, 12:42:33 PM
OH GOD THE SKILL QUEUE IS HERE
OMG, time to re-up when I can spare the time,
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on March 10, 2009, 12:42:33 PM
Ivan, there's another, smaller DL after the main one is finished. It's only like 13mb or something.
yeah, I found and applied it. EVE is now working as it should. Shame I don't have time to look at it atm.
Happy hunting in any case
CCP broke something with this expansion. Massive traffic control issues (I think they said they hardcapped Jita at 200 people), and now the servers have just crashed.
Edit: This thread should be moved.
The new character creation process is insanely streamlined.
You start with 50k skill points instead of 800k, and you don't have to really make any choices - everyone starts out the same.
Then you train at double speed for the first 1.6M skill points.
Makes good sense - everyone can simply train what they like, instead of fiddling with various race/trait options to try to get what they want.
Things are certainly getting interesting with IRC.
Red Alliance was in our space, which is fine since they were blue, but they ahd some neut friends with them, so of course and IRC gang blew them away, which angered RA, who demanded we set their friends to blue, I guess we refused, so then we went to war with RA.
Bunch of fights, some good, some bad, much fun had by all.
Now we just found out that GS has set us neut, and apparently our sources are saying they are not very friendly. So yeah. IRC went from being blue to damn near everyone, to red/neut. Should be interesting. I might have to actually logon once in a while...
Of course, GS is rpetty far from us now, so maybe this doesn't really mean that much.
Check out this awesome editorial fromone of the goon leaders:
http://www.tentonhammer.com/node/65476
:D I love Eve.
What's going to happen now that the Goons won?
Quote from: Berkut on March 23, 2009, 08:16:57 AM
Check out this awesome editorial fromone of the goon leaders:
http://www.tentonhammer.com/node/65476
The Mittani is also giving a lecture to EVE University later today, apparently. Darius JOHNSON gave one yesterday. :xd: 10 minutes on managing large groups and how important newbies are followed by an hour and a half of QA stuff. Less swearing than you might expect, and very few if any racial slurs. It was interesting to hear what sort of questions newbies (I guess...it's Eve University, after all) outside of GS have for a guy who runs a very large and (certain) newbie friendly organization.
Edit: Oh yeah...forgot you were in IRC, Berk.
QuoteOf course, GS is rpetty far from us now, so maybe this doesn't really mean that much.
You guys should probably just concentrate on RA for the time being.
Edit2: Oh yeah, check this out: http://evemaps.dotlan.net/alliance/Band_of_Brothers_Reloaded/corporations
Kenny is now .BoB., or Band of Brothers Reloaded. :D The name is apparently longer than the maximum character limit for alliance names, they didn't have to drop sov to get it (start a new alliance with a new name), and some people are saying they are also now the only alliance with a lower case character in their ticker. Don't really know about any of this, only that it's a stupid name. Again.
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on March 23, 2009, 09:41:47 AM
Edit2: Oh yeah, check this out: http://evemaps.dotlan.net/alliance/Band_of_Brothers_Reloaded/corporations
Kenny is now .BoB., or Band of Brothers Reloaded. :D The name is apparently longer than the maximum character limit for alliance names, they didn't have to drop sov to get it (start a new alliance with a new name), and some people are saying they are also now the only alliance with a lower case character in their ticker. Don't really know about any of this, only that it's a stupid name. Again.
The problem is that it has awaken the thousands of delusional conspiracy nutcases who believe that CCP are still favorizing BoB and giving them underhanded help. :tinfoil: :frusty:
Quote from: Drakken on March 24, 2009, 10:37:22 AMThe problem is that it has awaken the thousands of delusional conspiracy nutcases who believe that CCP are still favorizing BoB and giving them underhanded help. :tinfoil: :frusty:
Well they might actually have a point with the sov aspect of it (the number of characters and the ticker thing...who gives a shit about that). Apparently the way you normally go about getting a new alliance name is to pay a fee, then start it up all fresh and new, as in, you don't hold any space, etc.
People are somewhat annoyed because when Band of Brothers got disbanded, they had, or should have had, to make a choice between reforming as a new alliance with a new name
and not getting that sov 1 back for a week, or simply joining up with an existing alliance and start regaining sov immediately. They chose the second option, joined KenZoku (some sort of alt alliance of theirs or something), and then somehow got to change their name without any of the suckiness involved in doing so. You've got to admit, it's kind of awkward for an alliance that was technically started yesterday to hold sov 3 in some places, even though that takes something like a month to attain. vOv
They don't have any stations or anything though, and they obviously weren't able to hold on to sov 1 anyway, so it's not really that big of a deal (on its own, at least). And wow, you'd think they could come up with something better than just adding "Reloaded" to their name, and some periods to their ticker.
Edit: There is a patch coming tomorrow. No extended DT (not really...only 15 minutes so far), supposedly. http://www.eveonline.com/updates/patchnotes.asp?patchlogID=184
Truth be told, I don't give a shit about Goonies and tinfoil whiners being annoyed by CCP. It's still a droplet compared to how they annoy me. :P
The facts are, Goonswarm created a new Band of Brothers corp whose sole purpose is to deny BoB them from using this name again, so they fell back on KenZoku which was in existence at the time. They petitioned for a new name two months ago, and CCP has granted it.
GoonSwarm created this precedent by using the mechanics to wreck a superpower within 24 hours. While it may be against the rules, it was petitioned through the official channels and it was approved. For what they have lost in power, structures, POS, and credibility because of one individual deciding to cripple his alliance forever because he was bored and dissatisfied, I do not think that allowing them to change a name is that excessive. But hey, let's kick the dying guy while he is down, eh?
We are a far, far cry from the whole t20 scandal. It's still only a name change, for Heaven's sake. And see people bring back t20 again and again to argue that CCP is corrupt and biaised over what is only a name change is pitiful and, quite frankly, childish.
And the new name sucks anyway. I prefer KenZoku.
And really, the people who believe that CCP is incurably corrupt are nonetheless still paying to play and use CCP's (private property) forum to spread their inane drivel. So they should walk the talk and leave. If they don't, then they should STFU.
And yay for the patch tomorrow! :w00t:
So CCP participates, what's wrong with that? I really doubt that Goon doesn't get any help.
Quote from: Drakken on March 24, 2009, 12:12:14 PM
GoonSwarm created this precedent by using the mechanics to wreck a superpower within 24 hours. While it may be against the rules, it was petitioned through the official channels and it was approved. For what they have lost in power, structures, POS, and credibility because of one individual deciding to cripple his alliance forever because he was bored and dissatisfied, I do not think that allowing them to change a name is that excessive. But hey, let's kick the dying guy while he is down, eh?
Well...yes.
If that "dying guy" wants to change the name of his alliance, he's supposed to also suck up the consequences for doing so. If changing it the way it is supposed to be changed would cause irreparable harm, maybe they should think about how much they really want the new name. Shit...CCP apparently denied Stain Empire's petition to change the typo in their name when they first created it, forcing them to repeat the alliance creation process, repay the fee, etc.
As far as Goons somehow creating the precedent, camping alliance names and tickers has been done before, both by Goons, and non Goons. None of those other alliances ever got their names back (Except one that I know of, although only from posts about the current "incident," who's petition to change it back was denied after the holder gave up the name, and they had to reform if they wanted it, with all the consequences).
The KenZoku name already existed, wasn't offensive (only stupid), didn't even have any typos, or anything like that. It was just changed for no reason other than they wanted it changed, with no consequences whatsoever, and it has apparently pissed quite a few people off, and not just Goons.
As a side note, the KenZoku name was immediately camped as well. :lol:
Edit: An example:
http://eve-search.com/thread/1032494/page/3#70
Quote from: Some guy named clone 1 in an alliance called "Lotto Syndicate"Sorry but you are wrong. I don't like goons, I don't like them more than I don't like BOB/.BOB. .
It affects me because I was denied a 'name change' (all I wanted was a capital 'C') and was denied due to the rules by which everybody in the game are governed, and it applies to me because our old alliance was denied a change of 'U' to 'u' (within the first hours of creating the alliance) based on the rules by which everybody in the game are governed. Everybody it seems except BOB.
Rules are rules until a BOB incident changes them.
"Please keep in mind that the names cannot be changed after you have created the account, character or corporation so please take care what you name them."
"Player-run corporations, factions, organizations and player-owned items within the EVE Online game world are also subject to these rules and policies."
http://www.eveonline.com/pnp/namepolicy.asp
That's why I am ****ed off. THAT'S WHY.
Some are more equal than others.
Quote from: Berkut on March 24, 2009, 01:01:50 PM
Some are more equal than others.
Maybe, although maybe after this they'll start allowing alliance name changes, and hey...maybe that will gradually trickle down to character names and I can get rid of the stupid random generator name my main dude has. :w00t:
Huge fight going on in our home system today.
RA came in, we dropped a titan on their fleet, they brought in a BS fleet, apparently there has been heavy fighting going on all day. The IRC killboard is filling up fast, we seem to be doing pretty well, as far as I can tell.
Quote from: Berkut on March 24, 2009, 01:50:36 PM
Huge fight going on in our home system today.
RA came in, we dropped a titan on their fleet, they brought in a BS fleet, apparently there has been heavy fighting going on all day. The IRC killboard is filling up fast, we seem to be doing pretty well, as far as I can tell.
Hey that reminds me. I was checking out the IRC killboard yesterday, and it doesn't seem to load anything for the weekly kills and losses from the links at the top. Is something broken on my end, or should I be looking somewhere else to keep track of whats going on over there? Which campaign would this fall under? Homeland, Down South, or Love Thy Neighbors? All of the above?
Whenever I go to look at losses, most of the dates showing up are from 2007.
Edit: Looking here: http://www.intrepidcrossing.org/killboard/?a=home Maybe it's the wrong killboard?
Edit2: Ahha...must have been an old KB. Found this one: http://irc.eve-kill.net/
http://irc.eve-kill.net/
Quote from: Berkut on March 24, 2009, 02:32:13 PM
http://irc.eve-kill.net/
http://irc.eve-kill.net/?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=281715
Epic. Fail.
I love how CCP gave me shit about my ticker of "IDA", which they said was too close to the Irish Development Agency, and yet they allow a corporation named the "Tamil Tigers" to run around.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on March 24, 2009, 05:55:30 PM
Quote from: Berkut on March 24, 2009, 02:32:13 PM
http://irc.eve-kill.net/
http://irc.eve-kill.net/?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=281715
Epic. Fail.
He does have a dread kill on there, so that's cool.
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on March 24, 2009, 06:34:30 PM
He does have a dread kill on there, so that's cool.
And Al Haig was in the room when Watergate was discussed. Doesn't mean he had anything to do with it.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on March 24, 2009, 07:49:18 PM
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on March 24, 2009, 06:34:30 PM
He does have a dread kill on there, so that's cool.
And Al Haig was in the room when Watergate was discussed. Doesn't mean he had anything to do with it.
:lmfao:
Quote from: CountDeMoney on March 24, 2009, 05:55:30 PM
Quote from: Berkut on March 24, 2009, 02:32:13 PM
http://irc.eve-kill.net/
http://irc.eve-kill.net/?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=281715
Epic. Fail.
I bet your efficiency rating is not nearly as impressive.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on March 24, 2009, 07:49:18 PM
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on March 24, 2009, 06:34:30 PM
He does have a dread kill on there, so that's cool.
And Al Haig was in the room when Watergate was discussed. Doesn't mean he had anything to do with it.
:lol:
Quote from: Berkut on March 24, 2009, 08:30:46 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on March 24, 2009, 05:55:30 PM
Quote from: Berkut on March 24, 2009, 02:32:13 PM
http://irc.eve-kill.net/
http://irc.eve-kill.net/?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=281715
Epic. Fail.
I bet your efficiency rating is not nearly as impressive.
http://irishdemocraticarmy.griefwatch.net/?p=pilot&pilot=Cyclicus%20Remba
I have to pay my bill. :blush:
Quote from: CountDeMoney on March 24, 2009, 09:35:28 PM
I have to pay my bill. :blush:
How much do you have to pay for that?
Edit: Hurr..I didn't scroll down far enough. Why don't you just use that battleclinic place as a personal killboard? Hell...I haven't posted a single thing there, and ~half of my kills and most of my losses are already there, so people definitely use it.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on March 24, 2009, 09:35:28 PM
Quote from: Berkut on March 24, 2009, 08:30:46 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on March 24, 2009, 05:55:30 PM
Quote from: Berkut on March 24, 2009, 02:32:13 PM
http://irc.eve-kill.net/
http://irc.eve-kill.net/?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=281715
Epic. Fail.
I bet your efficiency rating is not nearly as impressive.
http://irishdemocraticarmy.griefwatch.net/?p=pilot&pilot=Cyclicus%20Remba
I have to pay my bill. :blush:
Damn, you are all over those rookie ships.
Quote from: Berkut on March 24, 2009, 10:07:44 PM
Damn, you are all over those rookie ships.
Rookie ships are entertaining to one shot.
http://www.battleclinic.com/eve_online/pk/view/player-Cyclicus+Remba-kills.html
http://www.battleclinic.com/eve_online/pk/view/player-Bhender-kills.html
heh heh
Hm..it seems to be kind of a pain to move KMs over there.
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on March 24, 2009, 10:03:17 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on March 24, 2009, 09:35:28 PM
I have to pay my bill. :blush:
How much do you have to pay for that?
Edit: Hurr..I didn't scroll down far enough. Why don't you just use that battleclinic place as a personal killboard? Hell...I haven't posted a single thing there, and ~half of my kills and most of my losses are already there, so people definitely use it.
I wanted to keep track of my kills with the IDA specifically, and not have it cluttered with all my ZOMG IMA NUB moron deaths.
Quote from: GM GrimmiWe appreciate the feedback from everyone. After reviewing all of these very valid concerns, we were compelled to go back over the information we'd collected in this case and carefully weighed it again against the precedents set in the past. Ultimately, we felt we had no other recourse than to reverse the name change, the key factor being that during this re-investigation we learned that the KenZoku alliance was created several months before the BoB alliance leadership switched hands. That being the case, the name change request was not submitted within a timely manner, as it had been in the legacy cases we were holding up as examples.
We will be contacting the CSM for input regarding our naming policies.
:lol: Complete bullshit, but that's okay. Or at least I hope it's complete bullshit, because if it took two separate tries for a CCP GM or two to find the alliance creation and corp membership dates.....
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1033628
FYI, The Irish Democratic Army [IDA] is back in business, wardeccing newbie industrial corps near you.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on March 25, 2009, 06:46:38 PM
FYI, The Irish Democratic Army [IDA] is back in business, wardeccing newbie industrial corps near you.
Didn't you just join a corp with that character?
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on March 25, 2009, 07:47:35 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on March 25, 2009, 06:46:38 PM
FYI, The Irish Democratic Army [IDA] is back in business, wardeccing newbie industrial corps near you.
Didn't you just join a corp with that character?
Yeah, but they didn't DO anything.
I mean, their corp chat was more barren than a single player corp chat. They never gave me corp rights, the admins never answered emails or PCs...it was a big nothing. So fuck it, I went back to my solo bit.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on March 25, 2009, 07:54:00 PM
Yeah, but they didn't DO anything.
I mean, their corp chat was more barren than a single player corp chat. They never gave me corp rights, the admins never answered emails or PCs...it was a big nothing. So fuck it, I went back to my solo bit.
Oh that sucks. Boring, and not even an opportunity to clean out their isk/hangar reserves.
IRC just lost a shitload of stuff.
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1033938&page=1
That's a bowlful of LULZ. IRCarebears get assraped, film at 11.
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on March 25, 2009, 11:10:42 PM
IRC just lost a shitload of stuff.
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1033938&page=1
Goon, they appear to be very good at this game. At least at the part where they infiltrate and steal stuff.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on March 26, 2009, 12:23:42 AM
That's a bowlful of LULZ. IRCarebears get assraped, film at 11.
Indeed, it is quite the funnies.
Goon is winning the game, and they don't even have to shoot anything - just betray people.
Quote from: Berkut on March 26, 2009, 12:35:40 AM
Indeed, it is quite the funnies.
Goon is winning the game, and they don't even have to shoot anything - just betray people.
:lol:
Goons are busy shooting at other alliances. RA is shooting at you.
Quote from: Berkut on March 26, 2009, 12:35:40 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on March 26, 2009, 12:23:42 AM
That's a bowlful of LULZ. IRCarebears get assraped, film at 11.
Indeed, it is quite the funnies.
Goon is winning the game, and they don't even have to shoot anything - just betray people.
And after all the rules and regulations, after all that DONTGOTOZEROZEROSPACEWITHOUTPERMISSION crap, all the "Hey Let's Be Blue To Everybody So We Never Shoot At Anyone Even If We're Ganged With Another Ally's Enemy" bullshit, and the broomsticks up all your IRC leadership's asses, you guys still got cornholed.
Now that is the funnies.
So is Seedy's guild the only goonfree one of the game?
Quote from: CountDeMoney on March 26, 2009, 05:43:06 AM
Quote from: Berkut on March 26, 2009, 12:35:40 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on March 26, 2009, 12:23:42 AM
That's a bowlful of LULZ. IRCarebears get assraped, film at 11.
Indeed, it is quite the funnies.
Goon is winning the game, and they don't even have to shoot anything - just betray people.
And after all the rules and regulations, after all that DONTGOTOZEROZEROSPACEWITHOUTPERMISSION crap, all the "Hey Let's Be Blue To Everybody So We Never Shoot At Anyone Even If We're Ganged With Another Ally's Enemy" bullshit, and the broomsticks up all your IRC leadership's asses, you guys still got cornholed.
Now that is the funnies.
Oh yeah, IRC never shoots at anyone.
The truth is Seedy is that the only real problem you had with IRC is that they thought you were an asshole, and you didn't like that.
Quote from: Grey Fox on March 26, 2009, 06:32:35 AM
So is Seedy's guild the only goonfree one of the game?
Considering that all a "Goon" is in this context is someone who is a member of the Something Awful forums, there are probably quite a few out there that you don't know about, and never will know about. I know for a fact there are Goons in non GS (GoonFleet is the Goon corp, the others aren't) or Pineapple (GROON) corps who are not spies or anything like that. Just regular members. There are also other "Goon run" corps that don't really recruit from Something Awful, and there are "Non Goon" corps that do recruit there (not all of their members, of course).
Instead of saying "Goon," the word you're probably looking for is: spy. And no, Seedy is probably spying on and scamming himself when he gets bored.
Damn nosepicker.
I'll rephrase. Is Seedy's guild the only one without an agent of The Mittani's organization?
Quote from: Grey Fox on March 26, 2009, 01:46:08 PM
Damn nosepicker.
I'll rephrase. Is Seedy's guild the only one without an agent of The Mittani's organization?
:D Probably.
Edit: Well IRC might not have any anymore.
What annoys me more than whatever fuckup let some douchbag Goonfuck wipe out another alliance is that IRC is too naive to think that they need to respond to the propaganda.
Goon is lying their asses off about how IRC foolishly attacked RA, earning the just wrath of Goon, when everyone inside the relevant alliances knows damn well that is bullshit.
What I wonder is if this was Goon taking advantage of an opportunity that came up, or whether they manufactured the RA-IRC war just so they could pull this.
Anyway, Goon talks, everyone knows they are liars, but since IRC won't respond, their version of events becomes Pravda. It is an interesting phenomenon.
Quote from: Berkut on March 26, 2009, 02:19:35 PM
What annoys me more than whatever fuckup let some douchbag Goonfuck wipe out another alliance is that IRC is too naive to think that they need to respond to the propaganda.
Goon is lying their asses off about how IRC foolishly attacked RA, earning the just wrath of Goon, when everyone inside the relevant alliances knows damn well that is bullshit.
What I wonder is if this was Goon taking advantage of an opportunity that came up, or whether they manufactured the RA-IRC war just so they could pull this.
Anyway, Goon talks, everyone knows they are liars, but since IRC won't respond, their version of events becomes Pravda. It is an interesting phenomenon.
This is a quality rant.
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on March 26, 2009, 02:31:32 PM
Quote from: Berkut on March 26, 2009, 02:19:35 PM
What annoys me more than whatever fuckup let some douchbag Goonfuck wipe out another alliance is that IRC is too naive to think that they need to respond to the propaganda.
Goon is lying their asses off about how IRC foolishly attacked RA, earning the just wrath of Goon, when everyone inside the relevant alliances knows damn well that is bullshit.
What I wonder is if this was Goon taking advantage of an opportunity that came up, or whether they manufactured the RA-IRC war just so they could pull this.
Anyway, Goon talks, everyone knows they are liars, but since IRC won't respond, their version of events becomes Pravda. It is an interesting phenomenon.
This is a quality rant.
This isn't CAOD.
Quote from: Berkut on March 26, 2009, 02:56:24 PM
This isn't CAOD.
Could have fooled me. :P
Edit: Hey...is IRC a centralized type alliance? Is that why so much shit was in the hangars like that?
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on March 26, 2009, 03:14:26 PM
Quote from: Berkut on March 26, 2009, 02:56:24 PM
This isn't CAOD.
Could have fooled me. :P
Edit: Hey...is IRC a centralized type alliance? Is that why so much shit was in the hangars like that?
No, it isn't CAOD - so you don't really have to effect the goonie smart-ass asshole schtick. Besides, Seedy does it way better than you anyway.
As far as IRC, I don't really know. I am pretty much a nobody, and haven't even been playing much lately. AWE was certainly the main force in the alliance though.
Edit: Nevermind. :lol: Please continue about the Goonie conspiracy to get IRC to siege C-J6 while the allies that occupy that area are attacking AAA and making them ping pong back and forth, Berkut. We wouldn't want it to be like CAOD.
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on March 26, 2009, 01:36:40 PMAnd no, Seedy is probably spying on and scamming himself when he gets bored.
You know that's right.
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on March 26, 2009, 04:02:19 PM
Edit: Nevermind. :lol: Please continue about the Goonie conspiracy to get IRC to siege C-J6 while the allies that occupy that area are attacking AAA and making them ping pong back and forth, Berkut. We wouldn't want it to be like CAOD.
I am pretty sure I said nothing about that - just noted that everyone involved is perfectly aware that IRC did not attack RA as Goonies claim. Perhaps you are not - I don't know - certainly IRC and RA know exactly what happened. Attacking CJ-6 came after that, obviously.
But this isn't CAOD, so you don't have to do the whole lying for Goonies thing as part of their modus operandi. There really isn't anyone here to lie to - I am certainly not worth the effort, since I know what actually happened.
But I do think it is an interesting question, kind of a chicken and egg thing. Did Goons create the war so they would have an excuse for another epic example of their grieifing, or was it just a happy coincidence?
That I do not know, and I imagine you don't either.
IRC is pissing me off.
Beyond whatever idiocy allowed this to happen, their first response was to shut down the IRC forums. I guess so they don't have to listen to people like me demanding to know how in the hell they let this happen.
Perhaps that is for the best - maybe their best chance for negotiating some kind of deal is without any interference from the rank and file, but it is pretty damn annoying when nobody is saying anything.
I suppose their could be a lack of trust issue going around...
When you're ready to join the IDA, let me know. Tax rate is 0%.
Quote from: Berkut on March 26, 2009, 06:53:07 PM
I am pretty sure I said nothing about that - just noted that everyone involved is perfectly aware that IRC did not attack RA as Goonies claim. Perhaps you are not - I don't know - certainly IRC and RA know exactly what happened. Attacking CJ-6 came after that, obviously.
But this isn't CAOD, so you don't have to do the whole lying for Goonies thing as part of their modus operandi. There really isn't anyone here to lie to - I am certainly not worth the effort, since I know what actually happened.
But I do think it is an interesting question, kind of a chicken and egg thing. Did Goons create the war so they would have an excuse for another epic example of their grieifing, or was it just a happy coincidence?
That I do not know, and I imagine you don't either.
Sure, IRC didn't attack RA, except for an assault on C-J6. Or did that just not happen, and isn't continuing to happen (there are kills and losses on your KB from as recently as 30 minutes ago)? That right there seems to be enough to get you reset no matter who started what, let alone the next bit: Did IRC not suddenly get involved in a war with RA just as RA decided to really start attacking AAA from their end of space? What possible purpose would it serve "goon" to start something like this when it, at least somewhat, keeps RA from helping us effectively while they're too busy fucking you guys up?
Why in the world would "goon" want to reset a blue while we're already fighting a rather huge war? And a blue on the other side of the galaxy close to one of our closest allies (1/3 of the RSF....the other 1/3 being TCF)? Why would "goon" want to start that sort of stupid shit with you mooks? If "goon" were to start that type of shit, it would probably be
after the massive war in Delve/Querious/Period Basis is finished, or at least isn't involving 1,000+ ship battles. You know...when we can go over there and burn all your shit down. Then...sure...why not reset some asshats like IRC? If you think it was somehow to get all that stuff, why didn't we do this way in advance of this little thing in Delve?
Anyhow, if you're really convinced that OMG WE DIDN'T START IT, and that that somehow makes IRC not a bunch of douchenozzles fighting a GS ally at a critical time while getting huge amounts of shit taken from their hangars, maybe look at the alliance that has actually been involved with the whole thing? The one that you're actively fighting?
And I don't know what the fuck you're talking about as far as lying and whatever other bullshit you're spewing about me simply because I'm "goon." Go move your stuff and join IDA.
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on March 26, 2009, 07:46:14 PMGo move your stuff and join IDA.
I don't make anybody ask permission to go to 0.0.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on March 26, 2009, 08:08:09 PM
I don't make anybody ask permission to go to 0.0.
IDA seems like it'd be a good time with the way you go around wardeccing and generally pissing people off.
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on March 26, 2009, 08:11:28 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on March 26, 2009, 08:08:09 PM
I don't make anybody ask permission to go to 0.0.
IDA seems like it'd be a good time with the way you go around wardeccing and generally pissing people off.
I am your newbie industrial corp's worst fucking nightmare. Even without killing anything, I disrupt the shit out of operations. That makes me giggle.
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on March 26, 2009, 07:46:14 PM
Quote from: Berkut on March 26, 2009, 06:53:07 PM
I am pretty sure I said nothing about that - just noted that everyone involved is perfectly aware that IRC did not attack RA as Goonies claim. Perhaps you are not - I don't know - certainly IRC and RA know exactly what happened. Attacking CJ-6 came after that, obviously.
But this isn't CAOD, so you don't have to do the whole lying for Goonies thing as part of their modus operandi. There really isn't anyone here to lie to - I am certainly not worth the effort, since I know what actually happened.
But I do think it is an interesting question, kind of a chicken and egg thing. Did Goons create the war so they would have an excuse for another epic example of their grieifing, or was it just a happy coincidence?
That I do not know, and I imagine you don't either.
Sure, IRC didn't attack RA, except for an assault on C-J6. Or did that just not happen, and isn't continuing to happen (there are kills and losses on your KB from as recently as 30 minutes ago)? That right there seems to be enough to get you reset no matter who started what, let alone the next bit: Did IRC not suddenly get involved in a war with RA just as RA decided to really start attacking AAA from their end of space? What possible purpose would it serve "goon" to start something like this when it, at least somewhat, keeps RA from helping us effectively while they're too busy fucking you guys up?
Why in the world would "goon" want to reset a blue while we're already fighting a rather huge war? And a blue on the other side of the galaxy close to one of our closest allies (1/3 of the RSF....the other 1/3 being TCF)? Why would "goon" want to start that sort of stupid shit with you mooks? If "goon" were to start that type of shit, it would probably be after the massive war in Delve/Querious/Period Basis is finished, or at least isn't involving 1,000+ ship battles. You know...when we can go over there and burn all your shit down. Then...sure...why not reset some asshats like IRC? If you think it was somehow to get all that stuff, why didn't we do this way in advance of this little thing in Delve?
Anyhow, if you're really convinced that OMG WE DIDN'T START IT, and that that somehow makes IRC not a bunch of douchenozzles fighting a GS ally at a critical time while getting huge amounts of shit taken from their hangars, maybe look at the alliance that has actually been involved with the whole thing? The one that you're actively fighting?
And I don't know what the fuck you're talking about as far as lying and whatever other bullshit you're spewing about me simply because I'm "goon." Go move your stuff and join IDA.
Oh my, so angry.
There is a simple reason goons do shit like this - because they are griefers. It is their thing, and they are perfectly willing to admit it. It doesn't need to make any sense in the grand scheme of things - they get their giggles from simply making others miserable, and that is enough. I certainly don't know, but given their history, it wold not surorise me in the least if they realized they could do this, and decided to create a reason to do so, just because they can.
And of course there is fighting going on now in CJ-6, RA/Goon instigated a war. I never claimed there was not - only that the claims from Goon that IRC decided to just go after RA for no reason are patently false - and of course they are. I certainly have nothing to gain by lying about it, and the entire thing was discussed on IRC forums ad naseum - IRC never wanted to go to war with RA - that doesn't mean they are going to just kiss their ass though.
Your argument is like saying it was the Allies fault for starting WW2 because they invaded Germany in 1945.
I don't know much of anything about RA, I have no idea why they decided to go to war with IRC because IRC refused to let them escort neutrals into IRC space. You tell me.
And I ahve no idea if YOU are lying - it is entirely possible you actually believe the Pravda of the Goon leadership. I don't know. What is sad is that you think Languish is just an extension of CAOD, and are parroting not only the Goon line of bullshit, but their dickhead attitude of "Haha, we stole your shit, cry more newb!". It is there thing, it is their persona, but that doesn't mean you have to parrot it here.
And really, if I was going to join IDA, I might as well just join Goon. Seedy is more Goon than most Goon. Griefing for its own sake. Every game has them.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on March 26, 2009, 08:19:35 PM
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on March 26, 2009, 08:11:28 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on March 26, 2009, 08:08:09 PM
I don't make anybody ask permission to go to 0.0.
IDA seems like it'd be a good time with the way you go around wardeccing and generally pissing people off.
I am your newbie industrial corp's worst fucking nightmare. Even without killing anything, I disrupt the shit out of operations. That makes me giggle.
See - you should be the one joining IDA - except you are already in Goon, which is just IDA on a grand scale.
Quote from: Berkut on March 26, 2009, 08:56:23 PM
See - you should be the one joining IDA - except you are already in Goon, which is just IDA on a grand scale.
I am in IDA now.
And yes boohoo IRC is an innocent victim in all of this. You win. Now go cry in a corner. No one cares about IRC.
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on March 26, 2009, 10:45:22 PM
Quote from: Berkut on March 26, 2009, 08:56:23 PM
See - you should be the one joining IDA - except you are already in Goon, which is just IDA on a grand scale.
I am in IDA now.
And yes boohoo IRC is an innocent victim in all of this. You win. Now go cry in a corner. No one cares about IRC.
Innocent victim? WTF are you babbling about now?
Why do you care so much that I called goons a bunch of liars and griefers? They are perfectly content with that label, even wallow in it.
I guess you can take the goon out of CAOD, but you cannot take the CAOD out of the goon.
Quote from: Berkut on March 26, 2009, 10:58:52 PMInnocent victim? WTF are you babbling about now?
Why do you care so much that I called goons a bunch of liars and griefers? They are perfectly content with that label, even wallow in it.
I guess you can take the goon out of CAOD, but you cannot take the CAOD out of the goon.
Oh for fucks sake. Shut up and join IDA with us. :mad:
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.tribe.net%2Ftribe%2Fupload%2Fphoto%2Fa62%2F562%2Fa625625c-34d1-436d-bd31-bd9615283791&hash=39a62fa9d4f2422a174a209e6e571877926d7dae)
(don't know what Cookie Monster is all about in this, but whatever)
QuoteAnd really, if I was going to join IDA, I might as well just join Goon. Seedy is more Goon than most Goon. Griefing for its own sake. Every game has them.
You can't join GoonFleet.
Quote from: Berkut on March 26, 2009, 08:55:09 PMAnd really, if I was going to join IDA, I might as well just join Goon. Seedy is more Goon than most Goon. Griefing for its own sake. Every game has them.
Well, when you put it that way....thank you.
Yeah...forget the cruiser, CdM. I'm just going to stick with the arty destroyer and provide "long range" (up to ~30km) support. EFT is saying only 6.5m isk for one of these with 250mm light arty II's (680k each), so it's pretty disposable, even if I don't bother to insure it.
Plus it perma runs everything. Oh, and it's still under the 900k alpha clone limit. It's just a glass cannon. :)
Or I could go cheap and have the thing only cost 1.7m with T1 guns, but lose about 100 off the alpha (from 530 to 424 with republic nuclear), and 4km of range. But 1.7m for that is ridiculously inexpensive. That covops cloak we pulled off that dude tonight would buy 5 or 6 of them. Completely disposable, and it sounds really quite fun to use. The tracking is excellent as well, so I should be able to nuke any pesky light drones sent after me pretty quickly, but if not.....eh.
Our first night flying together, and MBM and I bag a T2 cruiser who had the cajones to take us on. Sucker. DONT FUCK WITH THE IDA
http://irishdemocraticarmy.griefwatch.net/index.php?p=details&kill=18
MBM, I also changed your title to something more appropriate.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on March 27, 2009, 07:03:51 AM
Our first night flying together, and MBM and I bag a T2 cruiser who had the cajones to take us on. Sucker. DONT FUCK WITH THE IDA
http://irishdemocraticarmy.griefwatch.net/index.php?p=details&kill=18
MBM, I also changed your title to something more appropriate.
That's a shitty fit for an Arazu.
Quote from: vonmoltke on March 27, 2009, 08:31:24 AMThat's a shitty fit for an Arazu.
A T2 kill is a T2 kill.
MBM,
I wardecced that Industrial corp I was telling you about; I need you to log and vote for the wardec. Or don't, it'll just be 1-0. Hostilities will commence in less than 24 hours, around 10am Saturday morning.
They've got about 60+ players, all based in Genesis; their main Ops base is 3 jumps from our HQ, because they can hit 4 different markets close by. Their AOO has a lot of systems surrounding it that have no starbases, so we can catch them at the gates easy enough. They drive a lot of Hulks, Retrievers, Orcas, Industrials, and the occassional Freighter. They're saucy pickings.
I've set their standings to -10 so you can see them in local prior to the war dec.
I'll be forwarding some interceptors, assault ships, and the gankathrax to nearby systems. I'll even be breaking out the bigger ships if you're available to tackle.
Ouch...thats gotta hurt. :lol:
http://killboard.caldarimilitia.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=101149
Quote from: Cecil on March 27, 2009, 01:01:43 PM
Ouch...thats gotta hurt. :lol:
http://killboard.caldarimilitia.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=101149
Yes, the obligatory "for the record, my machine crashed" post.
Quote from: Grey Fox on March 27, 2009, 06:17:15 AM
He can join GoonSwarm tho.
But he's talking about being "Goon," not "Penny Arcade," "Ars," French Canadian, Russian, Southern, and whatever IGNE and DS1 are.
Quotehttp://killboard.caldarimilitia.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=101149
Ha. Damn.
QuoteMBM,
I wardecced that Industrial corp I was telling you about; I need you to log and vote for the wardec. Or don't, it'll just be 1-0. Hostilities will commence in less than 24 hours, around 10am Saturday morning.
They've got about 60+ players, all based in Genesis; their main Ops base is 3 jumps from our HQ, because they can hit 4 different markets close by. Their AOO has a lot of systems surrounding it that have no starbases, so we can catch them at the gates easy enough. They drive a lot of Hulks, Retrievers, Orcas, Industrials, and the occassional Freighter. They're saucy pickings.
I've set their standings to -10 so you can see them in local prior to the war dec.
I'll be forwarding some interceptors, assault ships, and the gankathrax to nearby systems. I'll even be breaking out the bigger ships if you're available to tackle.
:menace:
Yeah, I can tackle (no MWD though, so not very quickly) with the Rifters, and I'll be buying up a few of the destroyers tonight too, so...whatever.
Quote from: vonmoltke on March 27, 2009, 08:31:24 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on March 27, 2009, 07:03:51 AM
Our first night flying together, and MBM and I bag a T2 cruiser who had the cajones to take us on. Sucker. DONT FUCK WITH THE IDA
http://irishdemocraticarmy.griefwatch.net/index.php?p=details&kill=18
MBM, I also changed your title to something more appropriate.
That's a shitty fit for an Arazu.
Despite the name, it wasn't me. :P
But really, anyone flying an Arazu who attacks one-on-one TWO ships without T2 modules, maxed relevant skills, and back-up deserves to lose it. Natural selection FTW!
Quote from: Drakken on March 28, 2009, 01:45:44 AM
Despite the name, it wasn't me. :P
But really, anyone flying an Arazu who attacks one-on-one TWO ships without T2 modules, maxed relevant skills, and back-up deserves to lose it. Natural selection FTW!
To make how stupid this guy is even more obvious, he decided to attack CdM, in a Thorax, with his warrior II's, instead of me...in a Rifter. Those drones would have absolutely torn my ship apart, and they would have done it quickly. I had them all targeted and everything, getting ready to desperately try to shoot them up, when I noticed they were just flying toward CdM. So instead of dying well outside my maximum range, I ended up orbiting him at 500 - 1000m, plinking away with the ACs and warp scrambling him the whole time.
Seedy still had the firepower, etc, to kill the dude, but 1v1 is a lot better than 2v1.
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on March 28, 2009, 06:04:03 AM
Quote from: Drakken on March 28, 2009, 01:45:44 AM
Despite the name, it wasn't me. :P
But really, anyone flying an Arazu who attacks one-on-one TWO ships without T2 modules, maxed relevant skills, and back-up deserves to lose it. Natural selection FTW!
To make how stupid this guy is even more obvious, he decided to attack CdM, in a Thorax, with his warrior II's, instead of me...in a Rifter. Those drones would have absolutely torn my ship apart, and they would have done it quickly. I had them all targeted and everything, getting ready to desperately try to shoot them up, when I noticed they were just flying toward CdM. So instead of dying well outside my maximum range, I ended up orbiting him at 500 - 1000m, plinking away with the ACs and warp scrambling him the whole time.
Seedy still had the firepower, etc, to kill the dude, but 1v1 is a lot better than 2v1.
I figured from the killmail alone that you were performing a public service in removing this guy's shitty fit from the EVE universe, but this post just confirms it. :P
IRC chows down on a double large helping of crow:
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1035697
The posts where the GS dude posts the "negotiation" would be funny as hell if it wasn't my alliance he was bending over the drone spawn.
Especially the part where he says "And hey, nobody really has to know what happened...." then immediately posts the exchange into the CAOD thread.
:blush:
IDA membership has TRIPLED in the last 48 hours. MBM and vM have the taste of blood now, and they cannot be called off.
Get on the bandwagon, Languishites. Newb thumping awaits you in the fully ARMED and OPERATIONAL Irish Democratic Army.
http://killboard.caldarimilitia.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=102089
:D
Quote from: Cecil on March 29, 2009, 01:07:25 PM
http://killboard.caldarimilitia.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=102089
:D
What are we looking at?
Quote from: Grey Fox on March 29, 2009, 01:22:38 PM
Quote from: Cecil on March 29, 2009, 01:07:25 PM
http://killboard.caldarimilitia.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=102089
:D
What are we looking at?
Scroll up a bit. Same guy in his second 4 billion t3 ship getting wasted by the caldari militia.
Stop wasting t3 on horrible players. ;)
Quote from: Cecil on March 29, 2009, 01:24:32 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on March 29, 2009, 01:22:38 PM
Quote from: Cecil on March 29, 2009, 01:07:25 PM
http://killboard.caldarimilitia.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=102089
:D
What are we looking at?
Scroll up a bit. Same guy in his second 4 billion t3 ship getting wasted by the caldari militia.
Stop wasting t3 on horrible players. ;)
I thought it was the same kill. It's why I asked. :lol:
I didn't know T3s were out.
The prosecution of the war within the first 24 hours continues positively. Positively DEADLY LULZ
http://irishdemocraticarmy.griefwatch.net/index.php?p=kills
Two battlecruisers, one right after the other. Suckers.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on March 30, 2009, 12:27:47 AMTwo battlecruisers, one right after the other. Suckers.
Am I reading that right that neither battlecruiser even scratched you?
Quote from: ulmont on March 30, 2009, 08:56:58 AM
Am I reading that right that neither battlecruiser even scratched you?
That info isn't on a killmail. It's only the amount of damage done to the dead guy (split up by parties involved, etc).
Edit: That Myrmidon is set up with kind of an Angel tank, but it has a warp scram on it, so I assume it isn't for ratting or missions or whatever. That's odd. It's also got a couple of nos instead of neuts or just a couple more blasters. It's like he took his awkwardly fit ratter or mission runner and just switched a couple of highs and a mid. Or even just the mid.
The Harbinger isn't too bad, though. I personally wouldn't put an active tank on one, and would just have another heat sink on there instead. More DPS, and it's not like a MAR is going to save you against something that'll melt through a 1600mm plate, DC2, and a couple of EANMs. It'll just suck up cap that could be going to burning away from the Megathron that is shredding you, shooting back, etc.
Quote from: ulmont on March 30, 2009, 08:56:58 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on March 30, 2009, 12:27:47 AMTwo battlecruisers, one right after the other. Suckers.
Am I reading that right that neither battlecruiser even scratched you?
Well, no they didn't scratch me much at all. They burned through the shields OK, but it's an armor tank anyhow.
You can get through my shields pretty quickly, but by the time you get to my armor, you better have packed a lunch.
Quote from: vonmoltke on March 28, 2009, 09:36:44 AMI figured from the killmail alone that you were performing a public service in removing this guy's shitty fit from the EVE universe, but this post just confirms it. :P
You think that fitting was bad, check out this guy's broken Mega. Thing folded like a lawn chair.
http://irishdemocraticarmy.griefwatch.net/?p=details&kill=21
Quote from: CountDeMoney on March 31, 2009, 05:09:44 AM
Quote from: vonmoltke on March 28, 2009, 09:36:44 AMI figured from the killmail alone that you were performing a public service in removing this guy's shitty fit from the EVE universe, but this post just confirms it. :P
You think that fitting was bad, check out this guy's broken Mega. Thing folded like a lawn chair.
http://irishdemocraticarmy.griefwatch.net/?p=details&kill=21
:blink:
Damn, where do you guys find these losers?
Quote from: Berkut on March 31, 2009, 08:22:40 AM
Damn, where do you guys find these losers?
Came across 8 of them in a system last night only a couple jumps from EwhateverIDAshomesystemiscalled. Three probably similarly poorly fit BS (2 Megas, 1 Dominix that kept trying to get close to my destroyer :rolleyes: ), and various frigates and cruisers. Don't know what they were trying to do, but whatever it was, it involved warping to a gate at various distances around me, then warping back and forth between the two gates my safespot was inline with, and generally being totally inept.
Seedy could have been even more careless than I was, since he was in an interceptor, so he probably saw even more stupidity.
Quote from: Berkut on March 31, 2009, 08:22:40 AM
Damn, where do you guys find these losers?
Now, ask yourself this: for all the grief you give me for--to paraphrase White Zombie--being more Goon than Goon, don't you think I'm actually providing a valuable service, both to them and EVE at large?
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on March 31, 2009, 09:07:05 AMSeedy could have been even more careless than I was, since he was in an interceptor, so he probably saw even more stupidity.
I actually burned in from 100K at 3800m/s with the microwarp drive, and bumped the CEO's Mega. Just to make a point.
Seedy, after seeing the sorts of people we're generally up against in this area, I'm taking that alt in a different direction. Instead of LOLDPS, I'm turning him into a Blackbird flying asshole. Jamming people is fun. Jamming people who don't know wtf is happening and can't understand why they keep losing their lock is just a beautiful thing that everyone should get in on. Bonus: He'll also be able to fly Caracals for when shooting stuff is necessary, and later, Arbitrators, for tracking disruption and drone fun. :D
Edit: It's also quite amazing how shitty the skills on this guy still are. After throwing a few ship setups into EFT, and clicking back and forth between the alt and my main, the difference is just massive. The ECM Griffin, for example, goes from running out of cap in less than a minute with everything running with the alt, to being stable at around 50% with the main. There's also a pretty big difference in optimal+falloff. I guess it shouldn't be that surprising, given the main has ~20m skillpoints, while this alt has something silly like 300k.
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on April 02, 2009, 11:59:19 AM
Seedy, after seeing the sorts of people we're generally up against in this area, I'm taking that alt in a different direction. Instead of LOLDPS, I'm turning him into a Blackbird flying asshole. Jamming people is fun. Jamming people who don't know wtf is happening and can't understand why they keep losing their lock is just a beautiful thing that everyone should get in on. Bonus: He'll also be able to fly Caracals for when shooting stuff is necessary, and later, Arbitrators, for tracking disruption and drone fun. :D
You know, I was just thinking the same thing earlier today, just driving around in an Electronic Attack Frigate and frying their onboard systems.
I also think I'm going to sortie out my Domineutrix, the one with all vamps and neutralizers, but no guns. Just to kill their caps, leave them floating in space, unable to scream.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 02, 2009, 05:25:32 PM
You know, I was just thinking the same thing earlier today, just driving around in an Electronic Attack Frigate and frying their onboard systems.
I also think I'm going to sortie out my Domineutrix, the one with all vamps and neutralizers, but no guns. Just to kill their caps, leave them floating in space, unable to scream.
Whole new ways of fucking with these guys. Just jam+nuke cap+scram until they rage quit. No need to shoot. :lol:
You guys are seriously fucking evil. :lol:
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on April 02, 2009, 06:00:40 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 02, 2009, 05:25:32 PM
You know, I was just thinking the same thing earlier today, just driving around in an Electronic Attack Frigate and frying their onboard systems.
I also think I'm going to sortie out my Domineutrix, the one with all vamps and neutralizers, but no guns. Just to kill their caps, leave them floating in space, unable to scream.
Whole new ways of fucking with these guys. Just jam+nuke cap+scram until they rage quit. No need to shoot. :lol:
Yeah, and then when they're so sick and tired of being unable to move and Alt-Q out of the game, scan down for their ship in deadspace and steal it.
Quote from: FunkMonk on April 02, 2009, 06:05:24 PM
You guys are seriously fucking evil. :lol:
Don't think of it as being evil, think of it as providing a valuable learning experience to relatively new players to learn how to, well, not want to play anymore.
Quote from: FunkMonk on April 02, 2009, 06:05:24 PM
You guys are seriously fucking evil. :lol:
It's fucking beautiful.
OK, so we're in their heads.
From their website:
QuoteWar has come and this is a great opportunity for in a time prosperity for the corporation. The Board of directors and managers had a meeting and found out some details about our antagonists. The first is Alien Pancake Bonanza, a new pirating corporation (founded in march) trying to extort us (which will not happen) and the second is a very small 3 members mining corp that claims we have hindered their mining operations, most likely emotionally-unstable people.
Some skilled members have already informed us they want to fight in this conflict. Fleets will be formed to defend the corp and help newer pilots learn the basics of warfare faster. Any of you should revise your ship's insurances and your clone updates. The directors and the corporation will be able to provide help if necessary.
"Vigilance is the price of freedom"
For now, we recommend everyone to stay in station until further intelligence is gathered. If you do go out on missions, please send a private eve-mail to Einar Andresson or any of the directors if you see, or are attacked by an enemy (ship type, name, location and time will be valuable informations). As prevention is always better, the board of directors would recommend to everyone to do mission operations in groups as small fleets are more likely to survive any type of encounter and make missioning more profitable.
The corporation have the resources and the skill to handle a long conflict. I believe this will be our finest hour and a defining moment in the history of our corporation. We will rise up and blow away those corporations for we are already planning our offensive against these rivals. In the mean time, skill up, prepare, watch yourselves and be ready for some pretty fireworks.
QuoteAlien Pancake Bonanza
:lol:
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 05, 2009, 07:25:54 AM
For now, we recommend everyone to stay in station until further intelligence is gathered.
:huh: So they're essentially camping themselves into stations? That's......different.
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on April 05, 2009, 01:36:02 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 05, 2009, 07:25:54 AM
For now, we recommend everyone to stay in station until further intelligence is gathered.
:huh: So they're essentially camping themselves into stations? That's......different.
Well, not all of them are listening. Popped a Myrm last night, as my sig details. RAWR
You are a Mining Corp? WTF do you mine? Peoples' soul?
Quote from: Grey Fox on April 05, 2009, 02:06:03 PM
You are a Mining Corp?
No, said one of their members were cockblocking my mining alt, and I was wardeccing them to exact lost revenues.
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on March 26, 2009, 10:45:22 PM
And yes boohoo IRC is an innocent victim in all of this. You win. Now go cry in a corner. No one cares about IRC.
Every time I am tempted to join this game, I see a post like this: a normally pretty decent poster turned into a dickwad by what he sees as the optimal behavior in EVE. Then I am glad I saved myself the money and lifespan. This kind of shit is bad enough when it is just an EVE toilet overflowing into another forum, and I cannot imagine what the toilet must be like.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 05, 2009, 07:25:54 AM
OK, so we're in their heads.
From their website:
QuoteWar has come and this is a great opportunity for in a time prosperity for the corporation. The Board of directors and managers had a meeting and found out some details about our antagonists. The first is Alien Pancake Bonanza, a new pirating corporation (founded in march) trying to extort us (which will not happen) and the second is a very small 3 members mining corp that claims we have hindered their mining operations, most likely emotionally-unstable people.
Some skilled members have already informed us they want to fight in this conflict. Fleets will be formed to defend the corp and help newer pilots learn the basics of warfare faster. Any of you should revise your ship's insurances and your clone updates. The directors and the corporation will be able to provide help if necessary.
"Vigilance is the price of freedom"
For now, we recommend everyone to stay in station until further intelligence is gathered. If you do go out on missions, please send a private eve-mail to Einar Andresson or any of the directors if you see, or are attacked by an enemy (ship type, name, location and time will be valuable informations). As prevention is always better, the board of directors would recommend to everyone to do mission operations in groups as small fleets are more likely to survive any type of encounter and make missioning more profitable.
The corporation have the resources and the skill to handle a long conflict. I believe this will be our finest hour and a defining moment in the history of our corporation. We will rise up and blow away those corporations for we are already planning our offensive against these rivals. In the mean time, skill up, prepare, watch yourselves and be ready for some pretty fireworks.
On the other hand, things like this look like fun.
Quote from: grumbler on April 06, 2009, 06:33:15 AM
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on March 26, 2009, 10:45:22 PM
And yes boohoo IRC is an innocent victim in all of this. You win. Now go cry in a corner. No one cares about IRC.
Every time I am tempted to join this game, I see a post like this: a normally pretty decent poster turned into a dickwad by what he sees as the optimal behavior in EVE. Then I am glad I saved myself the money and lifespan. This kind of shit is bad enough when it is just an EVE toilet overflowing into another forum, and I cannot imagine what the toilet must be like.
to use your analogy:
the toilet is big enough that you can swim in clear waters without ever encountering a turd.
anyways, it's fun but not for everyone
Quote from: grumbler on April 06, 2009, 06:33:15 AM
Every time I am tempted to join this game, I see a post like this: a normally pretty decent poster turned into a dickwad by what he sees as the optimal behavior in EVE. Then I am glad I saved myself the money and lifespan. This kind of shit is bad enough when it is just an EVE toilet overflowing into another forum, and I cannot imagine what the toilet must be like.
:lol:
Edit: CdM, I've found it's terribly easy to "accidentally" mine enough trit and pye to build cruisers while reading a book or watching some TV or whatever, but where the hell do you find the other stuff needed (edit2: Iso, mega, mex, nocx, and zyd)? I'm having to just buy it all off the market atm. Is there anywhere in highsec my totally helpless alt (when it comes to solo PvP) can go to mine at least some of that?
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on April 06, 2009, 11:06:04 AM
Quote from: grumbler on April 06, 2009, 06:33:15 AM
Every time I am tempted to join this game, I see a post like this: a normally pretty decent poster turned into a dickwad by what he sees as the optimal behavior in EVE. Then I am glad I saved myself the money and lifespan. This kind of shit is bad enough when it is just an EVE toilet overflowing into another forum, and I cannot imagine what the toilet must be like.
:lol:
Edit: CdM, I've found it's terribly easy to "accidentally" mine enough trit and pye to build cruisers while reading a book or watching some TV or whatever, but where the hell do you find the other stuff needed (edit2: Iso, mega, mex, nocx, and zyd)? I'm having to just buy it all off the market atm. Is there anywhere in highsec my totally helpless alt (when it comes to solo PvP) can go to mine at least some of that?
mexallon you get from plag, isogen comes from Omber or Kernite, noxcium you can get from pyroxeres or Jaspet, zydrine from jaspet. Assuming you're mining in highsec or lowsec. Megacyte comes from no-sec ores. Zydrine and Noxc are of course available in greater quantities in te no-sec ores as well.
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on April 06, 2009, 11:06:04 AM
Edit: CdM, I've found it's terribly easy to "accidentally" mine enough trit and pye to build cruisers while reading a book or watching some TV or whatever, but where the hell do you find the other stuff needed (edit2: Iso, mega, mex, nocx, and zyd)? I'm having to just buy it all off the market atm. Is there anywhere in highsec my totally helpless alt (when it comes to solo PvP) can go to mine at least some of that?
Veldspar, Scordite, Plagioclase and Pyroxeres is all you really need to mine, since the Mexallon and Megacyte can come out of the Plag/Pyro; all I do is buy the ocassional Zydrine and Nocxium off the market.
Well, our wardectards were smacktalking me in local; never mind that I've obliterated three battlecruisers and a battleship this week, they complained that I never come out and fight them face-to-face. WHUTEVAH
And they wonder why I extended the wardec another week. We're going to keep this going for months, I'm afraid. They will learn pain. Oh yes, they will learn.
:lol:
I love it when online players complain that people don't fight fair. Rape 'em Seedy, rape 'em.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 06, 2009, 08:23:35 PM
nd they wonder why I extended the wardec another week. We're going to keep this going for months, I'm afraid. They will learn pain. Oh yes, they will learn.
Oh yes they will. I wonder what they'll think when a torp Raven shows up and melts their Megathrons. :shifty:
Quote from: Ed Anger on April 07, 2009, 07:12:42 AM
:lol:
I love it when online players complain that people don't fight fair. Rape 'em Seedy, rape 'em.
Yeah, and they're trash talking with 5 guys in the system. Like I'm gonna react to smacktalk in the local channel for a 1 versus 5.
No kids, see,
I wardecced
YOU. That means
I fight
YOU at a time and place of
MY choosing, and in the manner
I choose to fight it, and
I determine when it's over.
Stupid fucking nigger newbs.
Until then, I'm gonna ambush them like I am their own personal Viet Cong nightmare.
Quote from: Ed Anger on April 07, 2009, 07:12:42 AMRape 'em Seedy, rape 'em.
Raped.
Quote2009.04.08 00:49:00
Victim: Josh Long
Corp: Corporation of last sight
Alliance: NONE
Faction: NONE
Destroyed: Iteron Mark III
System: Aunia
Security: 0.8
Damage Taken: 2520
Involved parties:
Name: Cyclicus Remba (laid the final blow)
Security: 2.8
Corp: Irish Democratic Army
Alliance: NONE
Faction: NONE
Ship: Megathron
Weapon: 350mm Prototype I Gauss Gun
Damage Done: 2520
Destroyed items:
Broken Drone Transceiver, Qty: 47 (Cargo)
Microcell Nanite Explosive Hardener I (Cargo)
200mm Railgun I (Cargo)
Tracking Link I, Qty: 2 (Cargo)
Thruster Console, Qty: 14 (Cargo)
Small Shield Booster I, Qty: 4 (Cargo)
Cruise Missile Launcher I (Cargo)
'Malkuth' Assault Missile Launcher I (Cargo)
Small Armor Repairer I, Qty: 2 (Cargo)
Tracking Computer I, Qty: 3 (Cargo)
Heavy Ion Blaster I (Cargo)
250mm Light Artillery Cannon I (Cargo)
Small Energy Neutralizer I, Qty: 5 (Cargo)
F-S15 Braced Deflection Shield Matrix, Qty: 2 (Cargo)
Plutonium Charge L, Qty: 400 (Cargo)
Dual Heavy Pulse Laser I (Cargo)
'Arbalest' Siege Missile Launcher (Cargo)
EMP L, Qty: 100 (Cargo)
350mm Railgun I, Qty: 3 (Cargo)
Anode Mega Electron Particle Cannon I (Cargo)
400mm Reinforced Nanofiber Plates I (Cargo)
Thorn Rocket, Qty: 100 (Cargo)
Co-Processor I, Qty: 7 (Cargo)
Magnetic Scattering Amplifier I (Cargo)
Medium Hull Repairer I (Cargo)
Havoc Heavy Missile, Qty: 500 (Cargo)
100mm Reinforced Titanium Plates I (Cargo)
Large Shield Extender I (Cargo)
Bloodclaw Light Missile, Qty: 200 (Cargo)
Tungsten Charge S, Qty: 100 (Cargo)
Hobgoblin I, Qty: 2 (Cargo)
Fusion L, Qty: 100 (Cargo)
V-M15 Braced Multispectral Shield Matrix (Cargo)
Piranha Light Missile, Qty: 100 (Cargo)
F-293 Nutation Target Coupling, Qty: 2 (Cargo)
Shield Recharger I (Cargo)
Metal Scraps, Qty: 48 (Cargo)
ECM - Spatial Destabilizer I, Qty: 2 (Cargo)
Large F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction (Cargo)
Phase Switching I Targeting Nexus (Cargo)
Small Capacitor Booster I, Qty: 2 (Cargo)
Magnetic Field Stabilizer I, Qty: 2 (Cargo)
1400mm Howitzer Artillery I (Cargo)
Heavy Capacitor Booster I, Qty: 3 (Cargo)
800mm Reinforced Titanium Plates I (Cargo)
Contaminated Lorentz Fluid, Qty: 75 (Cargo)
Phased Plasma M, Qty: 100 (Cargo)
Tachyon Beam Laser I (Cargo)
Rocket Launcher I, Qty: 5 (Cargo)
Small Nosferatu I, Qty: 2 (Cargo)
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I (Cargo)
Fried Interface Circuit, Qty: 12 (Cargo)
Lucent Compound, Qty: 73 (Cargo)
Magnetometric Backup Array I (Cargo)
Scorched Telemetry Processor (Cargo)
Miner I (Cargo)
Praetor I, Qty: 2 (Cargo)
Thorium Charge S, Qty: 100 (Cargo)
Anode Mega Neutron Particle Cannon I (Cargo)
Warp Core Stabilizer I (Cargo)
Sheen Compound, Qty: 98 (Cargo)
Burned Logic Circuit, Qty: 8 (Cargo)
Large 'Accommodation' Vestment Reconstructer I (Cargo)
Small Proton Smartbomb I, Qty: 2 (Cargo)
Survey Scanner I (Cargo)
Thunderbolt Heavy Missile, Qty: 100 (Cargo)
Medium I-b Polarized Structural Regenerator (Cargo)
Defender I, Qty: 400 (Cargo)
Lead Charge M, Qty: 100 (Cargo)
Compact 'Limos' Heavy Assault Missile Launcher I (Cargo)
Omni Positional ECCM Sensor System I (Cargo)
Remote Sensor Dampener I, Qty: 4 (Cargo)
Plutonium Charge M, Qty: 400 (Cargo)
Ancillary Ballistic Screen Stabilizer I (Cargo)
250mm Railgun I, Qty: 14 (Cargo)
Tripped Power Circuit, Qty: 182 (Cargo)
Armor Kinetic Hardener I (Cargo)
Kinetic Deflection Amplifier I (Cargo)
Widowmaker Heavy Missile, Qty: 400 (Cargo)
Juggernaut Torpedo, Qty: 100 (Cargo)
Uranium Charge M, Qty: 200 (Cargo)
Hellhound F.O.F. Heavy Missile I, Qty: 200 (Cargo)
Iron Charge L, Qty: 100 (Cargo)
Small Energy Transfer Array I, Qty: 2 (Cargo)
800mm Repeating Artillery I (Cargo)
Incremental Gravimetric ECCM Scanning Array I (Cargo)
Modal Mega Electron Particle Accelerator I (Cargo)
Small Capacitor Battery I, Qty: 2 (Cargo)
Large Ld-Acid Capacitor Battery I (Cargo)
F-90 Positional Sensor Subroutines (Cargo)
Mega Pulse Laser I (Cargo)
Explosion Dampening Amplifier I (Cargo)
Large Armor Repairer I, Qty: 3 (Cargo)
Supplemental Scanning CPU I (Cargo)
Motley Compound, Qty: 23 (Cargo)
Obliterator F.O.F. Cruise Missile I, Qty: 100 (Cargo)
Medium Shield Extender I, Qty: 2 (Cargo)
F-43 Repetitive Multi-Frequency Backup Sensors (Cargo)
Dual 250mm Railgun I, Qty: 2 (Cargo)
Fusion S, Qty: 100 (Cargo)
Expanded Cargohold II
Small 'Knave' I Energy Drain (Cargo)
Medium Shield Transporter I, Qty: 3 (Cargo)
Iridium Charge M, Qty: 200 (Cargo)
Cargo Scanner I (Cargo)
125mm 'Scout' I Accelerator Cannon (Cargo)
ECCM - Gravimetric I, Qty: 2 (Cargo)
1600mm Reinforced Steel Plates I, Qty: 2 (Cargo)
X-Large C5-L Emergency Shield Overload I (Cargo)
Local Power Plant Manager: Reaction Shield Power Relay I (Cargo)
Tungsten Charge M, Qty: 100 (Cargo)
250mm 'Scout' I Accelerator Cannon (Cargo)
FZ-3 Subversive Spatial Destabilizer ECM, Qty: 2 (Cargo)
Plutonium Charge S, Qty: 100 (Cargo)
Large Azeotropic Ward Salubrity I (Cargo)
Ditrigonal Thermal Barrier Crystallization I (Cargo)
Heat Dissipation Field I (Cargo)
Dual 180mm Carbine Repeating Cannon I (Cargo)
Piercing ECCM Emitter I (Cargo)
Small Remote Armor Repair System I (Cargo)
Tangled Power Conduit, Qty: 2 (Cargo)
Hammerhead I, Qty: 7 (Cargo)
800mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I, Qty: 2 (Cargo)
Phased Plasma L, Qty: 100 (Cargo)
Damaged Artificial Neural Network, Qty: 40 (Cargo)
Wasp I (Cargo)
ECCM Projector I, Qty: 3 (Cargo)
Dual Heavy Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I (Cargo)
Ocular Filter - Standard, Qty: 2 (Cargo)
100mm Reinforced Steel Plates I (Cargo)
Dropped items:
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher I, Qty: 2 (Cargo)
Dual 150mm Railgun I (Cargo)
Overdrive Injector System I (Cargo)
Bane Torpedo, Qty: 200 (Cargo)
Charred Micro Circuit, Qty: 145 (Cargo)
Warp Disruptor I, Qty: 2 (Cargo)
Ogre I, Qty: 2 (Cargo)
Serpentis Diamond Tag (Cargo)
Asymmetric Energy Succor I (Cargo)
Explosion Dampening Field I (Cargo)
Gremlin Rocket, Qty: 100 (Cargo)
Armor Plates, Qty: 23 (Cargo)
Small Armor Repairer I, Qty: 4 (Cargo)
Large Capacitor Battery I, Qty: 3 (Cargo)
Multi Sensor Backup Array I (Cargo)
Dual Heavy Beam Laser I (Cargo)
Large Shield Booster I (Cargo)
Acolyte I, Qty: 3 (Cargo)
100MN Afterburner I, Qty: 8 (Cargo)
Medium Remote Armor Repair System I, Qty: 2 (Cargo)
Shield Flux Coil I (Cargo)
Malfunctioning Shield Emitter, Qty: 3 (Cargo)
Lead Charge L, Qty: 200 (Cargo)
EP-S Gaussian I Excavation Pulse (Cargo)
Expanded Cargohold I (Cargo)
F-S15 Braced Deflection Shield Matrix (Cargo)
Conductive Polymer, Qty: 21 (Cargo)
Iridium Charge S, Qty: 100 (Cargo)
425mm Railgun I, Qty: 5 (Cargo)
Assault Missile Launcher I, Qty: 4 (Cargo)
Co-Processor I (Cargo)
Smashed Trigger Unit, Qty: 33 (Cargo)
Large Remote Armor Repair System I, Qty: 6 (Cargo)
Tungsten Charge S, Qty: 100 (Cargo)
Seeker F.O.F. Light Missile I, Qty: 100 (Cargo)
Hobgoblin I, Qty: 2 (Cargo)
Uranium Charge L, Qty: 200 (Cargo)
Shield Recharger I, Qty: 2 (Cargo)
'Arbalest' Standard Missile Launcher (Cargo)
Phalanx Rocket, Qty: 200 (Cargo)
1MN Afterburner I, Qty: 3 (Cargo)
1400mm Howitzer Artillery I (Cargo)
Photonic CPU Enhancer I (Cargo)
Induced Signal Distortion Amplifier I (Cargo)
Carbonized Lead M, Qty: 100 (Cargo)
Heavy Missile Launcher I, Qty: 6 (Cargo)
Microcell Nanite Thermic Hardener I (Cargo)
XT-2800 Heavy Assault Missile Launcher I (Cargo)
Stasis Webifier I (Cargo)
Small Nosferatu I, Qty: 3 (Cargo)
Fried Interface Circuit, Qty: 132 (Cargo)
Cap Booster 200, Qty: 10 (Cargo)
Hornet I, Qty: 3 (Cargo)
Miner I (Cargo)
Energized Basic Thermic Plating (Cargo)
200mm Reinforced Nanofiber Plates I (Cargo)
Small Supplemental Barrier Emitter I (Cargo)
Burned Logic Circuit, Qty: 110 (Cargo)
Iridium Charge L, Qty: 100 (Cargo)
125mm Carbide Railgun I (Cargo)
Gleaming Alloy, Qty: 92 (Cargo)
Small Shield Extender I (Cargo)
100MN MicroWarpdrive I, Qty: 5 (Cargo)
Medium Capacitor Booster I, Qty: 3 (Cargo)
Hydra F.O.F. Heavy Missile I, Qty: 100 (Cargo)
Thunderbolt Heavy Missile, Qty: 100 (Cargo)
Alfven Surface Targeting Annex I (Cargo)
Signal Amplifier I (Cargo)
Lead Charge M, Qty: 500 (Cargo)
Compact 'Limos' Heavy Assault Missile Launcher I, Qty: 2 (Cargo)
150mm Railgun I, Qty: 8 (Cargo)
Small Subordinate Screen Stabilizer I (Cargo)
Elite Drone AI, Qty: 10 (Cargo)
Ancillary Ballistic Screen Stabilizer I (Cargo)
Thorium Charge M, Qty: 100 (Cargo)
Medium Proton Smartbomb I (Cargo)
Small Graviton Smartbomb I (Cargo)
Tripped Power Circuit, Qty: 18 (Cargo)
Medium Shield Booster I, Qty: 11 (Cargo)
Extra Magnetometric ECCM Scanning Array I (Cargo)
Neutron Blaster Cannon I, Qty: 3 (Cargo)
Titanium Sabot L, Qty: 100 (Cargo)
Siege Missile Launcher I, Qty: 2 (Cargo)
Paradise Cruise Missile, Qty: 100 (Cargo)
Dual 425mm AutoCannon I, Qty: 2 (Cargo)
'Arbalest' Heavy Assault Missile Launcher I (Cargo)
Devastator Cruise Missile, Qty: 100 (Cargo)
Berserker I, Qty: 6 (Cargo)
Additional Thermal Barrier Emitter I (Cargo)
Monopulse Tracking Mechanism I (Cargo)
Tracking Disruptor I (Cargo)
Small Energy Transfer Array I (Cargo)
Dual 425mm Prototype I Automatic Cannon (Cargo)
Signal Distortion Amplifier I (Cargo)
Standard Missile Launcher I (Cargo)
Cataclysm Cruise Missile, Qty: 200 (Cargo)
Small Capacitor Battery I, Qty: 3 (Cargo)
Light Ion Blaster I (Cargo)
Infiltrator I, Qty: 5 (Cargo)
Small Hull Repairer I, Qty: 3 (Cargo)
Mega Pulse Laser I (Cargo)
Large Armor Repairer I (Cargo)
Lustering Alloy, Qty: 14 (Cargo)
Gravimetric Backup Array I (Cargo)
Indirect Scanning Dampening Unit I (Cargo)
Hammerhead II, Qty: 2 (Cargo)
Medium Shield Extender I (Cargo)
Expanded Cargohold II, Qty: 2
Alloyed Tritanium Bar, Qty: 35 (Cargo)
125mm Railgun I, Qty: 4 (Cargo)
Iridium Charge M, Qty: 100 (Cargo)
Photon Scattering Field I (Cargo)
Monopropellant I Hydrazine Boosters (Cargo)
Dark Compound, Qty: 47 (Cargo)
800mm Reinforced Nanofiber Plates I (Cargo)
Serpent F.O.F. Light Missile I, Qty: 100 (Cargo)
200mm Reinforced Titanium Plates I (Cargo)
Lead Charge S, Qty: 200 (Cargo)
Shield Power Relay I, Qty: 4 (Cargo)
250mm 'Scout' I Accelerator Cannon (Cargo)
Plutonium Charge S, Qty: 200 (Cargo)
Heat Dissipation Field I (Cargo)
ECM - Multispectral Jammer I (Cargo)
Heavy Neutron Blaster I, Qty: 5 (Cargo)
Contaminated Nanite Compound, Qty: 26 (Cargo)
400mm Reinforced Steel Plates I (Cargo)
Hammerhead I (Cargo)
Uranium Charge S, Qty: 100 (Cargo)
Wasp I, Qty: 2 (Cargo)
Precious Alloy, Qty: 98 (Cargo)
250mm Carbide Railgun I (Cargo)
Iron Charge M, Qty: 100 (Cargo)
Fleeting Progressive Warp Scrambler I (Cargo)
F-12 Nonlinear Tracking Processor, Qty: 2 (Cargo)
Medium Capacitor Battery I (Cargo)
Mark I Modified SS Expanded Cargo (Cargo)
Sensor Booster I (Cargo)
That's a lot of cargo.
Toting around over 100 million ISK worth of stuff in a fucking Itty III?
He must have wanted it to get blown up.
Anybody using "Josh Long" as their character name deserves to be blown up.
Their CEO gets THA HAMMAH.
http://irishdemocraticarmy.griefwatch.net/index.php?p=details&kill=28
So basically Seedy is doing what was done to him in WoW?
Quote from: katmai on April 09, 2009, 08:17:12 PM
So basically Seedy is doing what was done to him in WoW?
Yeah, pretty much.
Well good for you.
Almost make me want to try eve again :P
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 09, 2009, 08:13:00 PM
Their CEO gets THA HAMMAH.
http://irishdemocraticarmy.griefwatch.net/index.php?p=details&kill=28
nice kill that.
Quote from: Crazy_Ivan80 on April 10, 2009, 01:10:26 AMnice kill that.
Great thing was the set up.
I was waiting for his little industrial buddy to undock, so I could rape his Retriever. This guy comes into the system and he was 200k away from me, talking smack in his typically poor Euro Eengrish in local.
I was on one side of the station, he was on the other, at about 100k off. So, while he kept yapping in local, I saw the gate he had entered into the system from behind him off in the distance, warped to it, turned around, and warped back to 100k off the station. He had to have been shocked as shit when I landed less than 6,000m off his starboard ass.
Pretty weird setup he had though... :huh:
Quote from: Cecil on April 10, 2009, 05:45:40 AM
Pretty weird setup he had though... :huh:
They all have weird setups, mainly because they're tards.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 10, 2009, 05:54:56 AM
Quote from: Cecil on April 10, 2009, 05:45:40 AM
Pretty weird setup he had though... :huh:
They all have weird setups, mainly because they're tards.
Except Proxy and Shiroth, but the Iowa could melt them, too.
Hmmmmmmmmm.
Is there a free trial for this game? :ph34r:
Quote from: Caliga on April 10, 2009, 07:49:26 AM
Hmmmmmmmmm.
Is there a free trial for this game? :ph34r:
14 days, although on Steam I've seen a 21 day one mentioned.
Quote from: Ed Anger on April 10, 2009, 09:31:35 AM
Quote from: Caliga on April 10, 2009, 07:49:26 AM
Hmmmmmmmmm.
Is there a free trial for this game? :ph34r:
14 days, although on Steam I've seen a 21 day one mentioned.
21 via buddy program
you want?
Started a trial account and added CdM and MBM to friends list.
Quote from: katmai on April 10, 2009, 05:20:29 PM
Started a trial account and added CdM and MBM to friends list.
:cry:
Quote from: vonmoltke on April 10, 2009, 05:22:59 PM
Quote from: katmai on April 10, 2009, 05:20:29 PM
Started a trial account and added CdM and MBM to friends list.
:cry:
His address book would melt if he tried to add all your alts. :P
Are there any good build strategy web sites? I'd hate to try a free account and turn into one of CdM's mis-built retard prey...
Quote from: ulmont on April 10, 2009, 05:26:40 PM
Are there any good build strategy web sites? I'd hate to try a free account and turn into one of CdM's mis-built retard prey...
You can ask in the Languish channel if anyone is around, and get some good fittings from us there. Otherwise, I suppose you could just google <shiptype> fittings eve online or some such and hope for the best.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 10, 2009, 05:54:56 AM
They all have weird setups, mainly because they're tards.
I must admit that I onl;y read this thread for your posts.
Nice to see someone enjoy a game so much, who also doesn't talk in WoWKosh-speak.
Quote from: grumbler on April 10, 2009, 05:30:56 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 10, 2009, 05:54:56 AM
They all have weird setups, mainly because they're tards.
I must admit that I onl;y read this thread for your posts.
Nice to see someone enjoy a game so much, who also doesn't talk in WoWKosh-speak.
:huh:
Yeah cause EVE online speak is so much easier to understand.
Quote from: vonmoltke on April 10, 2009, 05:22:59 PM
Quote from: katmai on April 10, 2009, 05:20:29 PM
Started a trial account and added CdM and MBM to friends list.
:cry:
I don't know who yours or berkies characters are :P
I'm vonlutt....just got off leave so should be signing in more now. <_<
Quote from: katmai on April 10, 2009, 05:48:58 PM
:huh:
Yeah cause EVE online speak is so much easier to understand.
:huh:
I was talking about Seedy. I wasn't talking about EVEtards in general.
L2R. :contract:
Jess messing with ya! :lol:
Quote from: grumbler on April 10, 2009, 05:30:56 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 10, 2009, 05:54:56 AM
They all have weird setups, mainly because they're tards.
I must admit that I onl;y read this thread for your posts.
Nice to see someone enjoy a game so much, who also doesn't talk in WoWKosh-speak.
That's because EVE, as MMORPGs go, is the ultimate Hobbesian experience. One server, anything goes. Even the Chinese farmers have a low profile, because the game mechanics don't protect them like other games can.
And yes, I can get my own personal groove on.
I AM BECOME SEEDY GRIEFER OF NOOBS
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 10, 2009, 07:03:41 PM
I AM BECOME SEEDY GRIEFER OF NOOBS
So i guess i better not say hi to you in game. :cry:
Hey vM, remember last night, when you mentioned that one guy trying to PM you ingame, that I figured COLS might be considering hiring Mercs to wardec us?
Well...
Quote2009.04.11 08:07
Merchants Trade Consortium has declared war on Irish Democratic Army.
Within 24 hours fighting can legally occur between those involved.
Oh yeah, and they wardecced you, too.
So what's the plan here then? a 44-member corp, assuming they have decent combat skills, is way more than three of us can effectively handle.
Contact them, pay them more to end the war?
Quote from: Grey Fox on April 11, 2009, 11:03:40 AM
Contact them, pay them more to end the war?
You need to go big or go home. Pay them to end the war than pay them more to attack the other guys! :lmfao:
I was just thinking that. I don;t have the cash, but Seedy does... :shifty:
Quote from: vonmoltke on April 11, 2009, 12:11:15 PM
I was just thinking that. I don;t have the cash, but Seedy does... :shifty:
I've already composed an email to Hans Gates regarding pricing structures for retaining the services of REPO as counter-muscle.
Besides, if worse comes to worse, we simply don't get killed. It costs me 4m/week to keep the wardec going; God knows they're paying more to hire muscle to fuck with us.
REPO's pricing--
Quote2009.04.11 17:36
dec fees (atm 200 and 250) so right off the bat you are looking at 450 a week, plus pay per kill on them. I will send the PPK sheet.
1 million per T1 Frigate, pod, shuttle,
2 million per destroyer Industrial
3 Million per Cruiser, Barge
10 million per BC Hulks
20 million per BS
8 million per T2 frigs
10 million per T2 haulers
12 million per T2 Destroyer
18 million per T2 Crusiers
30 million per T2 BC
70 million per T2 BS
100 million per Cap
Do you have enough for money for that?
Quote from: Grey Fox on April 11, 2009, 02:19:43 PM
Do you have enough for money for that?
I've got a couple billion, but not really enamored with the idea of pissing it away so quickly.
I still say you should enquire about buying out the contract out of MTC.
Or hire a spy.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 11, 2009, 01:58:38 PM
Besides, if worse comes to worse, we simply don't get killed. It costs me 4m/week to keep the wardec going; God knows they're paying more to hire muscle to fuck with us.
Looking at the pricing structure for some of the other mercs, and considering prices are negotiable, if we go to ground they may just pay MTC cost plus a small fee to keep the war active. If that happens, no one really gets anything.
So, what do you think? Go underground? Or continue to prosecute the war, but only in ships no bigger than cruisers?
Shit man, hiring REPO? Isnt that going a bit overboard?
Quote from: Cecil on April 11, 2009, 05:43:12 PM
Shit man, hiring REPO? Isnt that going a bit overboard?
You must be new.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 11, 2009, 04:51:04 PM
So, what do you think? Go underground? Or continue to prosecute the war, but only in ships no bigger than cruisers?
Well, Freddy can't fly cruisers yet, but I'd keep losing disposable frigates.
Lets see how effective these new guys are before we consider mercs. Do pass on your research, though, as I might have a use for a good merc corp anyway.
Quote from: vonmoltke on April 11, 2009, 06:15:25 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 11, 2009, 04:51:04 PM
So, what do you think? Go underground? Or continue to prosecute the war, but only in ships no bigger than cruisers?
Well, Freddy can't fly cruisers yet, but I'd keep losing disposable frigates.
Lets see how effective these new guys are before we consider mercs. Do pass on your research, though, as I might have a use for a good merc corp anyway.
I propose this:
Your corp and mine form an alliance; that will nullify the MTC's wardec on both our corps prior to it kicking in, and they would have to wardec us as an alliance again, this time at a substantially larger price tag.
Edit: Nevermind, don't have the skills necessary to create an alliance anyhow. Meh.
Quote from: scotayne hawkins2009.04.11 23:25
your war with corporation of sight will end and any fee's they are willing to pay have been paid payable to us.
so with great joy thank you.
Quote from: Cyclicus RembaIn the spirit of Easter, you may commence to eating the chocolate Bunnies that are peeping out of my Bunghole Burrow of Love.
Happy Easter!
QuoteIn the spirit of Easter, you may commence to eating the chocolate Bunnies that are peeping out of my Bunghole Burrow of Love.
Happy Easter!
:lol:
Quote from: Ed Anger on April 11, 2009, 07:30:10 PM
QuoteIn the spirit of Easter, you may commence to eating the chocolate Bunnies that are peeping out of my Bunghole Burrow of Love.
Happy Easter!
:lol:
I love it when they try to come hard. Niggas jus doan know.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 11, 2009, 07:27:20 PM
Quote from: scotayne hawkins2009.04.11 23:25
your war with corporation of sight will end and any fee's they are willing to pay have been paid payable to us.
so with great joy thank you.
Quote from: Cyclicus RembaIn the spirit of Easter, you may commence to eating the chocolate Bunnies that are peeping out of my Bunghole Burrow of Love.
Happy Easter!
What precipitated that exchange?
Quote from: vonmoltke on April 11, 2009, 11:43:45 PMWhat precipitated that exchange?
I dunno, I opened my ingame email, and there it was.
Quote from: mongers on April 12, 2009, 06:07:30 PM
So I found Money on the Languish channel at least. :cool:
I was out all day eating prime rib and smoked salmon in honor of some dead jew.
What did siegy do now? <_<
Well I remade the MBM character, and the randomizer spit out a wonderfully creepy pedo looking face, etc, but I'm rather not liking the fact that you can't see what sort of stats and skills you start out with without actually creating the character (which, if you don't like it, forces you to wait another 10 hours until you can start over).
Edit: Appears to be a reasonably good foundation, at least:
MadBurgerMaker
Attributes
Intelligence: 8.00
Perception: 8.00
Charisma: 7.00
Willpower: 8.00
Memory: 8.00
Electronics
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmyeve.eve-online.com%2Fbitmaps%2Fcharacter%2Flevel3.gif&hash=a903bb655b0bf9632f5932a20a64bd0a365debf0) Electronics
Total Skillpoints in Group: 8,000
Engineering
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmyeve.eve-online.com%2Fbitmaps%2Fcharacter%2Flevel3.gif&hash=a903bb655b0bf9632f5932a20a64bd0a365debf0) Engineering
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmyeve.eve-online.com%2Fbitmaps%2Fcharacter%2Flevel2.gif&hash=1660e388e3bd106dce71d40902fc81291d735ed1) Shield Operation
Total Skillpoints in Group: 9,415
Gunnery
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmyeve.eve-online.com%2Fbitmaps%2Fcharacter%2Flevel2.gif&hash=1660e388e3bd106dce71d40902fc81291d735ed1) Gunnery
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmyeve.eve-online.com%2Fbitmaps%2Fcharacter%2Flevel3.gif&hash=a903bb655b0bf9632f5932a20a64bd0a365debf0) Small Hybrid Turret
Total Skillpoints in Group: 9,415
Industry
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmyeve.eve-online.com%2Fbitmaps%2Fcharacter%2Flevel2.gif&hash=1660e388e3bd106dce71d40902fc81291d735ed1) Mining
Total Skillpoints in Group: 1,415
Mechanic
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmyeve.eve-online.com%2Fbitmaps%2Fcharacter%2Flevel2.gif&hash=1660e388e3bd106dce71d40902fc81291d735ed1) Mechanic
Total Skillpoints in Group: 1,415
Navigation
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmyeve.eve-online.com%2Fbitmaps%2Fcharacter%2Flevel3.gif&hash=a903bb655b0bf9632f5932a20a64bd0a365debf0) Navigation
Total Skillpoints in Group: 8,000
Science
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmyeve.eve-online.com%2Fbitmaps%2Fcharacter%2Flevel3.gif&hash=a903bb655b0bf9632f5932a20a64bd0a365debf0) Science
Total Skillpoints in Group: 8,000
Spaceship Command
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmyeve.eve-online.com%2Fbitmaps%2Fcharacter%2Flevel2.gif&hash=1660e388e3bd106dce71d40902fc81291d735ed1) Gallente Frigate
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmyeve.eve-online.com%2Fbitmaps%2Fcharacter%2Flevel3.gif&hash=a903bb655b0bf9632f5932a20a64bd0a365debf0) Spaceship Command
Total Skillpoints in Group: 10,829
Total Skillpoints: 56,489
Total Number of Skills: 11
Skills at Level 1: 0
Skills at Level 2: 5
Skills at Level 3: 6
Skills at Level 4: 0
Skills at Level 5: 0
I'm not entirely sure why a Gallente dude is starting out with Shield Operation at II, but hey...
Also, no drone skills at all.
So is there any real point beyond Aesthetics when picking race?
Quote from: katmai on April 14, 2009, 12:37:01 AM
So is there any real point beyond Aesthetics when picking race?
I don't know, really, since I haven't been able to test it out.
I mightI'm going to biomass this guy overnight, then start a new one who's a different "class" and see if there are any differences in the starting skills. I can do this a few times, since the other alt is training skills for another week anyway.
That one there is what you get when you select a Gallente Intaki Reborn Male.
There shouldn't be any difference anymore.
Nah, they totally took the fun and drama out of character creation, probably for the best.
You used ot start out with enarly 1 million skill points, and what you got was all based on all these choices. So if you chose wrong, you could pretty much hose yourself.
Now you only start out with 50k skill points, so what difference does it make? But you get double training rate for the first 1.6M skill points, so it evens out, but you can allocate them all yourself.
Quote from: Berkut on April 14, 2009, 08:14:52 AM
Nah, they totally took the fun and drama out of character creation, probably for the best.
You used ot start out with enarly 1 million skill points, and what you got was all based on all these choices. So if you chose wrong, you could pretty much hose yourself.
Now you only start out with 50k skill points, so what difference does it make? But you get double training rate for the first 1.6M skill points, so it evens out, but you can allocate them all yourself.
Yup...looks like the starting skills are all the same for each race. I like being able to allocate the skillpoints the way I see fit, but I also rather liked having a guy who is actually useful for things other than tutorial missions right off the bat. The build for my main, for example, started me out with Drones V, among various other things, which is a very nice thing for a Gallente dude to have. The old MadBurgerMaker Minmatar character started with Gunnery V, and IIRC small projectile turret IV, which made the jump to T2 smalls quite painless.
Quote2009.04.14 19:52
The war between Merchants Trade Consortium and Irish Democratic Army is coming to an end. Merchants Trade Consortium has retracted the war against Irish Democratic Army. The war will be declared as being over after approximately 24 hours.
LOL, looks like COLS paid for a wardec that never fired a shot.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 14, 2009, 06:51:16 PM
LOL, looks like COLS paid for a wardec that never fired a shot.
Did you pay them off or did they just get bored?
Quote from: ulmont on April 14, 2009, 07:13:43 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 14, 2009, 06:51:16 PM
LOL, looks like COLS paid for a wardec that never fired a shot.
Did you pay them off or did they just get bored?
Nobody pays me off.
COLS paid MTC to wardec me, who subsequently retracted their wardec. Somebody got robbed.
:lmfao:
And so, the negotiations begin...
Quote[02:59:41] Cyclicus Remba > So what happened to your friends in MTC? Why did they bail on the wardec?
[02:59:49] Alanthegreat > this is my friend and Dicotor Endinr andresson
[03:00:01] Cyclicus Remba > I don't think I've killed him before
[03:00:02] Alanthegreat > LOL a error
[03:00:07] Einar Andresson > Hello
[03:00:12] Alanthegreat > no
[03:00:15] Alanthegreat > you ave not
[03:00:58] Alanthegreat > my self and Andersson where going to send a mail
[03:01:07] Cyclicus Remba > I am open to retracting the wardec, I believe I have caused enough discomfort to make up for your miners' actions in Genesis
[03:01:21] Alanthegreat > but give us a min to get togathere what we we will say
[03:01:48] Cyclicus Remba > I will listen
[03:02:02] Alanthegreat > Great
[03:02:36] Alanthegreat > Frist I want to appoligived for the disconfert to you also
[03:02:57] Cyclicus Remba > It was a fun war
[03:03:06] Einar Andresson > From my perspective so far, (i know im still new to this) this qar have been a problem of communication from the start
[03:03:15] Einar Andresson > BUt yeah it was very fun
[03:03:27] Alanthegreat > yee it was very intrasting
[03:03:41] Cyclicus Remba > You have miners operating in Genesis. They have questionable practices.
[03:03:45] Einar Andresson > I for one enjoyed the trill of the hunt, being hunted and hunting too
[03:04:01] Alanthegreat > for that we could not find who
[03:04:14] Cyclicus Remba > Two of them
[03:04:19] Alanthegreat > I think they went proxys corp to be truthful
[03:04:23] Cyclicus Remba > I wanted to kill them myself
[03:04:41] Alanthegreat > I do not dought
[03:05:22] Cyclicus Remba > However, I believe I remain victorious over several of your members, and as many of your fighters have left the corp, I do not believe this war would be in your best interests
[03:05:52] Cyclicus Remba > So, we should come to an agreement
[03:06:05] Einar Andresson > Well, this war isnt over ressources, so its not very much in the material interest of everyone
[03:06:23] Cyclicus Remba > I don't enjoy destroying ships used for missions
[03:06:47] Einar Andresson > We found out that the war didnt really hindered our moves
[03:07:07] Einar Andresson > Actually, it motivated many of our members to to do just like you did
[03:07:17] Cyclicus Remba > Well, that is good for you. Good practice.
[03:07:23] Alanthegreat > ya
[03:07:32] Alanthegreat > I have learned a lot
[03:07:41] Einar Andresson > Yes thank for that, im glad im not a carebear anymore
[03:08:37] Cyclicus Remba > Now, how much is ending the wardec worth to you?
[03:08:58] Cyclicus Remba > I am open to negotiations on that, very flexible
[03:08:59] Einar Andresson > Well we arent trhough learning so we dont really mind for now
[03:09:28] Cyclicus Remba > LOL I can keep killing, that's no problem. I want to blow up Rune's Navy Megathron, he talks too much
[03:09:40] Einar Andresson > We still have some tatics to try,
[03:10:07] Alanthegreat > LOL yes he does and we have asked him to avied you
[03:10:22] Cyclicus Remba > I will find him soon enough
[03:10:26] Alanthegreat > I like that navy mega I want it one day
[03:10:42] Cyclicus Remba > It is good for missions, too expensive to lose in PVP
[03:11:12] Alanthegreat > yes true
[03:11:18] Einar Andresson > Ah come on nothing is too expensive for fun
[03:11:56] Cyclicus Remba > True, which is why I was going to hire REPO to kill you all for a month.
[03:12:08] Cyclicus Remba > But I prefer to do it myself
[03:12:09] Alanthegreat > a REPO?
[03:13:14] Einar Andresson > Where would be the fun?
[03:13:32] Cyclicus Remba > Exactly, which I why I will continue to do it myself.
[03:13:43] Einar Andresson > Actually i dont think we are worth each other's time anymore
[03:14:13] Alanthegreat > same here
[03:14:17] Cyclicus Remba > Bah, I am easily amused
[03:14:28] Einar Andresson > I mean many of a<our member are elsewhere and you dont seems to be on the same time zone as the rest of us
[03:14:52] Cyclicus Remba > Well, you know what the price is to end it, I would retract the wardec immediately upon reciept of the funds
[03:14:59] Cyclicus Remba > Oh, I was planning on finding them
[03:15:55] Einar Andresson > Well, war in empire is a bitch, the longer is goes on the less kill you will get for we gain expeirence
[03:16:32] Einar Andresson > You got lucky the firsts time but we're not losing much anynmore
[03:16:33] Cyclicus Remba > I don't care
[03:16:54] Einar Andresson > Maybe you could find juicyer carebears
[03:17:16] Cyclicus Remba > Give me some, and I will consider it
[03:17:35] Alanthegreat > I have two
[03:17:40] Einar Andresson > All i can give is advice and good words
[03:19:10] Cyclicus Remba > Well, I can keep stalking you, Alan. Killing you over and over again.
[03:19:21] Alanthegreat > Helmuth Moltke From Gold Coast Heavy Industries
[03:19:35] Einar Andresson > We havent lost muvh in the 2 weeks and its getting just annoying
[03:19:59] Einar Andresson > You made a mistake some time back too, but i guess that time is over
[03:20:00] Cyclicus Remba > I specialize in annoying
[03:20:10] Cyclicus Remba > I make no mistakes ever
[03:21:59] Alanthegreat > Enar had get the phone he will be back
[03:22:18] Alanthegreat > I wnat to work this out I don;t what you to be annoying
[03:22:56] Cyclicus Remba > Well, you know what the price tag is for peace and quiet. I feel it is a very good deal at 500m.
[03:23:52] Einar Andresson > You mean you are willing to make our life miserable for just 500m?
[03:25:03] Cyclicus Remba > That's a discount. I initially wanted more, but I understand if you guys are broke.
[03:25:56] Einar Andresson > Do you even need that money?
[03:26:34] Cyclicus Remba > Let me tell you the business I'm in. Tomorrow, I'm gonna log on, have a cup of coffee, find you, and kill you. Then, when you're getting a new ship, I'll be getting more ammo, and I'll kill you again. That's the kind of guy I am.
[03:26:44] Cyclicus Remba > Because I'm fucking nuts. That's the business I'm in.
[03:27:44] Cyclicus Remba > Now gentlemen, if you'll excuse me, I have to go surf for asian porn and masterbate furiously. You have the conditions. You know what to pay. Goodnight.
:cool:
:lmfao:
Lol wait is he telling you to go after Moldy there?
Quote[03:23:52] Einar Andresson > You mean you are willing to make our life miserable for just 500m?
Poor bastards just don't know who they're dealing with.
Quote from: katmai on April 14, 2009, 10:52:59 PM
Lol wait is he telling you to go after Moldy there?
Yeah, apparently they don't like him.
I can see now I'm not going to get paid, and will have to kill grief guys every week until the end of time.
So these guys don't really like Languishite, eh. :lol:
QuoteEinar Andresson > Maybe you could find juicyer carebears
Cyclicus Remba > Give me some, and I will consider it
...
Alanthegreat > Helmuth Moltke From Gold Coast Heavy Industries
:lmfao:
Quote from: grumbler on April 15, 2009, 06:28:06 AM:lmfao:
Yeah, they may not know much Eengrish, but they have a sense of humor.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 15, 2009, 05:45:58 AM
Quote from: katmai on April 14, 2009, 10:52:59 PM
Lol wait is he telling you to go after Moldy there?
Yeah, apparently they don't like him.
I can see now I'm not going to get paid, and will have to kill grief guys every week until the end of time.
You blow up or steal hundreds of millions worth of assets, yet they don't like
me?
Quote from: vonmoltke on April 15, 2009, 08:00:27 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 15, 2009, 05:45:58 AM
Quote from: katmai on April 14, 2009, 10:52:59 PM
Lol wait is he telling you to go after Moldy there?
Yeah, apparently they don't like him.
I can see now I'm not going to get paid, and will have to kill grief guys every week until the end of time.
You blow up or steal hundreds of millions worth of assets, yet they don't like me?
:D
Quote from: Habbaku on April 14, 2009, 11:21:17 PM
Quote[03:23:52] Einar Andresson > You mean you are willing to make our life miserable for just 500m?
Poor bastards just don't know who they're dealing with.
This is just priceless. :lmfao:
Quote from: vonmoltke on April 15, 2009, 08:00:27 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 15, 2009, 05:45:58 AM
Quote from: katmai on April 14, 2009, 10:52:59 PM
Lol wait is he telling you to go after Moldy there?
Yeah, apparently they don't like him.
I can see now I'm not going to get paid, and will have to kill grief guys every week until the end of time.
You blow up or steal hundreds of millions worth of assets, yet they don't like me?
:lol:
Quote from: vonmoltke on April 15, 2009, 08:00:27 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 15, 2009, 05:45:58 AM
Quote from: katmai on April 14, 2009, 10:52:59 PM
Lol wait is he telling you to go after Moldy there?
Yeah, apparently they don't like him.
I can see now I'm not going to get paid, and will have to kill grief guys every week until the end of time.
You blow up or steal hundreds of millions worth of assets, yet they don't like me?
It's your online persona. Not nearly as warm as I am.
Quote[03:26:34] Cyclicus Remba > Let me tell you the business I'm in. Tomorrow, I'm gonna log on, have a cup of coffee, find you, and kill you. Then, when you're getting a new ship, I'll be getting more ammo, and I'll kill you again. That's the kind of guy I am.
[03:26:44] Cyclicus Remba > Because I'm fucking nuts. That's the business I'm in.
[03:27:44] Cyclicus Remba > Now gentlemen, if you'll excuse me, I have to go surf for asian porn and masterbate furiously. You have the conditions. You know what to pay. Goodnight.
:D
YOU HAVE MAIL
Quote
2009.04.15 06:23
Subject: We warn you to stop your wardec against us
For now we have been very tolerant and we played the game of war. Since you wont take no for an answer to your ransomming and that you are not backing off even after many of our corp member left, we gently ask you to stop the war and move on. We cannot pay what you ask and you are deriving our enjoyment of the game.
Quotere: We warn you to stop your wardec against us
Roses are red
violets are blue
pay me or I'll wardec you for 6 months and bleed you until you're sucking buttermilk in therapy
coo coo ka choo
:XD:
Despicable!
I say keep deriving their enjoyment. They seem to like it.
These guys really need to think about what kind of message they want to send.
Are they begging for mercy? Are they threatening you? I can't tell...
Quote from: Barrister on April 15, 2009, 05:48:12 PM
These guys really need to think about what kind of message they want to send.
Are they begging for mercy? Are they threatening you? I can't tell...
Yeah, at first it was clearly a threat & then they seem to remember they can't back it up.
Pay or Quit, I like it.
Quote from: Barrister on April 15, 2009, 05:48:12 PM
These guys really need to think about what kind of message they want to send.
Are they begging for mercy? Are they threatening you? I can't tell...
Well, they are European.
:lol:
STOP OR ELplease stop we're asking nicely.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 15, 2009, 05:23:51 PM
YOU HAVE MAIL
Quote
2009.04.15 06:23
Subject: We warn you to stop your wardec against us
For now we have been very tolerant and we played the game of war. Since you wont take no for an answer to your ransomming and that you are not backing off even after many of our corp member left, we gently ask you to stop the war and move on. We cannot pay what you ask and you are deriving our enjoyment of the game.
Quotere: We warn you to stop your wardec against us
Roses are red
violets are blue
pay me or I'll wardec you for 6 months and bleed you until you're sucking buttermilk in therapy
coo coo ka choo
They literally have
no idea what they are dealing with!
This is so much better than all the large-scale bullshit griefing that dominated the thread earlier. This is human. You can see actual sweating hands on these guys keyboards.
Bravo, Sir Seedy. Keep us posted.
Quote from: grumbler on April 15, 2009, 06:17:39 PMBravo, Sir Seedy. Keep us posted.
I'm considering an alternative peace solution.
They need to turn over three battleships to me. They can keep their fittings, but they have to strip them, repackage them and turn them over to me. Consider it an armistice disarmament, an intergalactic Scapa Flow.
I'll let you know what they say.
LOL
Quote
2009.04.16 01:55
We warned you. Now, if you don't stop your war against us we will file a petition for grief play (http://support.eve-online.com/Pages/KB/Article.aspx?id=336), offensive, sexually explicit, and vulgar language (http://www.eveonline.com/pnp/terms.asp). Note that CCP have the power to close anyone's accounts if they break the end license user agreement. We are relunctant to go to such ends and we will give you 48 hours before we file the petition. If you think we have nothing against you, here is a reminder: (https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi685.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fvv218%2FEinar-Andresson%2FGriefconvo.jpg&hash=6614f1dfa32fbb77ed62f7836fed80f0196a4e4c)
Einar Andresson, The negociator
LOL, oh yeah, CCP is really big on banning people who say mean things and "grief" others.
Quote from: Berkut on April 15, 2009, 11:23:48 PM
LOL, oh yeah, CCP is really big on banning people who say mean things and "grief" others.
I actually kind of wonder what they'd think about the threat of a petition being used to try to end an in-game war. Never heard of that particular tactic being used. Petition games, sure, but not anything like this. :huh:
Meh, I ended it.
I promise with the next wardec, I'll only type in EUOT-approved language.
You gave in to the terrorists.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 15, 2009, 11:39:12 PM
Meh, I ended it.
I promise with the next wardec, I'll only type in EUOT-approved language.
start it up next week, or even in a day or two, when they're still high thinking they've "won".
Quote from: Habbaku on April 16, 2009, 12:02:50 AM
You gave in to the terrorists.
Sometimes, something-something is the better something of valor.
Besides, this is a European game, Icelandic to boot. And if I've learned anything from my EUOT days, it's they take complaints seriously, unless Jews are involved.
Most of CCPs development is done in the US now, no?
Anyway, you gave in. That's sad. CCP wouldn't even have read their petitions. Half the studio is too busy trying to save BoB while the other is trying to destroy them.
Yeah, you folded. How unSeedylike. There is no way CCP would have done squat because of that petition.
Have you ever read CAOD?
Quote from: Grey Fox on April 16, 2009, 06:13:01 AM
Most of CCPs development is done in the US now, no?
No, the development is still done in Reykjavik, at least for EVE. CCP's Atlanta office is basically the former White Wolf Publishing with some CCP customer support personnel added.
The terrorists won..... :cry:
I cant believe you gave up with just the threat of filing a complaint.
You make the defence counsel in me weep.
And all this time I thought EVE was the game that had no pity
Torpedo stealth bombers have been deployed (Apocrypha 1.1), among other things like Scorpion changes. ~250mb download.
Edit: And a kinda nifty new preview button for ships in the market window.
Quote from: crazy canuck on April 16, 2009, 01:42:36 PM
I cant believe you gave up with just the threat of filing a complaint.
You make the defence counsel in me weep.
Meh, I'm wardeccing them again in two weeks. No biggie.
Then why did you peace them in the first place?
Quote from: Alcibiades on April 16, 2009, 06:23:22 PM
Then why did you peace them in the first place?
They've been hiding, it's been increasingly difficult to get a kill.
Gonna let them regroup, get fat, find out where they are and fuck them again,
American Me style.
Personally, it was a total victory.
They lost 16 members of their corp during the war, carebears who didn't want to get ganked.
I destroyed 1 Frigate, 3 Battlecruisers, 2 Battleships, and one loot-laden industrial...all with the loss of one Battleship that I had built for free.
I'll hit them in two weeks.
I'll be satisfied when they pack up & quit the game. :contract:
Some of the former members of COLS (the cool ones, like Proxy) started their own griefer corp, and gave me a line on a carebear corp they're deccing this weekend. about 30+ members, but much more concentrated in specific systems than COLS was.
I'm thinking about it.
Right now, I'm in 0.0 space with the Stealth Bomber, seeing how the new changes to the ship are fleshed out. I could fit three Torp launchers and a Bomb launcher on that fucker.
OK, need a ruling on this one: which corp's name is more annoying, and worth a wardec?
Sad Panda, Inc.
Entrust
Allied Tactical Technologies
Zero-G Operations Group
Core Impact
Traceless Representatives of Anonymous Players
The Damninable Imperial Crusade (yes, they spell it that way)
The Damninable Imperial Crusade
No doubt.
Sad Panda, inc.
elbabnininmad
Big Monkey Corp, dedicated mining corp out of the UK, deals with Teonusude region. Thinking about wardeccing them before they join a mining alliance.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 18, 2009, 02:59:19 PM
OK, need a ruling on this one: which corp's name is more annoying, and worth a wardec?
Sad Panda, Inc.
Entrust
Allied Tactical Technologies
Zero-G Operations Group
Core Impact
Traceless Representatives of Anonymous Players
The Damninable Imperial Crusade (yes, they spell it that way)
Damn. You picked some real winners there. :lol:
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on April 18, 2009, 03:54:51 PM
Damn. You picked some real winners there. :lol:
I've decided to wardec about 2 or 3 at once, increases the playing field, so to speak.
OK, I wardecced them for fucking up their name.
And Sad Panda, Inc.
And Big Monkey Corp.
:lmfao:
This is ridiculous.
Alright... have my new ship set up, two jump clones ready. You said the base of operations was going to be where again? Somewhere with a T. Wanna put my new ship and the clone close to there.
Quote from: Faeelin on April 19, 2009, 01:05:58 PM
:lmfao:
This is ridiculous.
Dude, I'm the fucking scourge of the universe. All fucking carebears and Eengrish butchers must fucking hang.
Quote from: Alcibiades on April 19, 2009, 02:07:37 PM
Alright... have my new ship set up, two jump clones ready. You said the base of operations was going to be where again? Somewhere with a T. Wanna put my new ship and the clone close to there.
Teonusude. First on deck, the Big Monkey Corp. Fucking Brits.
It's a Languish revolution in Evespace. Wish I had the time to storm the barricades. :cry:
I've amended the corp description for the Irish Democratic Army:
QuoteDoes not work and play well with others.
If you are wardecced, it is mostly likely because:
1) You have an obnoxious/annoying/moronic Corp name;
2) You butcher the English language;
3) You are carebears that need to learn the pain of EVE, and it's your turn; or
4) All of the above
:lol:
Big Monkey Group decced like a motherfucker.
I'm trying to figure out why someone would fly one of these Electronic Attack Ships (the T2 EW frigates) over something like a Blackbird, Arbitrator, Celestis, or Bellicose (or one of the T1 ewar frigates for that matter). Is there any good reason at all?? Overly expensive EW tackler, maybe?
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on April 19, 2009, 09:09:46 PM
I'm trying to figure out why someone would fly one of these Electronic Attack Ships (the T2 EW frigates) over something like a Blackbird, Arbitrator, Celestis, or Bellicose (or one of the T1 ewar frigates for that matter). Is there any good reason at all?? Overly expensive EW tackler, maybe?
Using the Kitsune as an example you get 18% higher jammer strength over the EW cruisers. Of course, you also get a major range reduction, since the EW frigates can only fit one sensor booster. Plus, they're faster and harder to kill if the enemy is BB-heavy.
What exactly do Vespas do? I know they are ECM drones..... they just track disrupt the target or?
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on April 19, 2009, 09:09:46 PM
I'm trying to figure out why someone would fly one of these Electronic Attack Ships (the T2 EW frigates) over something like a Blackbird, Arbitrator, Celestis, or Bellicose (or one of the T1 ewar frigates for that matter). Is there any good reason at all?? Overly expensive EW tackler, maybe?
It's quicker to get into than waiting for Cruisers V, namely. And yes, they're smaller and harder to hit.
Quote from: Alcibiades on April 19, 2009, 10:06:43 PM
What exactly do Vespas do? I know they are ECM drones..... they just track disrupt the target or?
The Vespa EC-600's will cause their target to lose lock/not be able to lock. Never used them before though, so I don't know how effective they are. I imagine they could be pretty frustrating for whichever poor schmuck you sic them on. The skill they need is cool because it increases your drone usage range for all drones, not just the ewar types.
EC = ECM
EV = Energy vampire
SD = Sensor damp
TP = Target painter
TD = Tracking disruptor
300's are lights, 600's are mediums, 900's are heavies.
QuoteIt's quicker to get into than waiting for Cruisers V, namely. And yes, they're smaller and harder to hit.
The (T1) Ewar cruisers only require Frig IV and Cruiser II though, which is something most everyone is going to train beyond, unless it's an alt, I guess. The harder to hit thing...their lower range would put them in drone control range, wouldn't it? It'd probably be pretty close, at least. Unless it's the Kitsune, they could have some serious problems with that. Warrior II's fuck up frigates pretty badly. The bonus vM mentioned is quite nice though.
Whatever...doesn't matter really. I'll end up flying+losing one at some point anyway. :)
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on April 19, 2009, 10:16:17 PM
Quote from: Alcibiades on April 19, 2009, 10:06:43 PM
What exactly do Vespas do? I know they are ECM drones..... they just track disrupt the target or?
The Vespa EC-600's will cause their target to lose lock/not be able to lock. Never used them before though, so I don't know how effective they are. I imagine they could be pretty frustrating for whichever poor schmuck you sic them on. The skill they need is cool because it increases your drone usage range for all drones, not just the ewar types.
EC = ECM
EV = Energy vampire
SD = Sensor damp
TP = Target painter
TD = Tracking disruptor
300's are lights, 600's are mediums, 900's are heavies.
QuoteIt's quicker to get into than waiting for Cruisers V, namely. And yes, they're smaller and harder to hit.
The (T1) Ewar cruisers only require Frig IV and Cruiser II though, which is something most everyone is going to train beyond, unless it's an alt, I guess. The harder to hit thing...their lower range would put them in drone control range, wouldn't it? It'd probably be pretty close, at least. Unless it's the Kitsune, they could have some serious problems with that. Warrior II's fuck up frigates pretty badly. The bonus vM mentioned is quite nice though.
Whatever...doesn't matter really. I'll end up flying+losing one at some point anyway. :)
The ecm drones are awsome, you probabely need 5 of them for them to function properly though. Its like and escape button when you get jumped, just send your dissposable ecm drones and run.
Yo seedy, you want me to jump into a station in Teonusude or sit in Rens? I can stage in Teo if you want for tonight. Jumped my clone last night, didn't know about the 24 hour timer. :pinchL
Hang out wherever you feel comfy. Call them out. KILL KILL KILL
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 20, 2009, 05:26:46 PM
Hang out wherever you feel comfy. Call them out. KILL KILL KILL
Well i was looking forward to maybe ganging a bit. Any chance of that tonight?
Anyone else going to be available in those areas tonight btw? Max? Molt?
Quote from: Alcibiades on April 20, 2009, 05:39:35 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 20, 2009, 05:26:46 PM
Hang out wherever you feel comfy. Call them out. KILL KILL KILL
Well i was looking forward to maybe ganging a bit. Any chance of that tonight?
Anyone else going to be available in those areas tonight btw? Max? Molt?
After further review of Big Monkey, we're going to file this one under "O" for "Oops, we shouldn't have done that".
I'll fill you in online.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 20, 2009, 06:13:18 PM
Quote from: Alcibiades on April 20, 2009, 05:39:35 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 20, 2009, 05:26:46 PM
Hang out wherever you feel comfy. Call them out. KILL KILL KILL
Well i was looking forward to maybe ganging a bit. Any chance of that tonight?
Anyone else going to be available in those areas tonight btw? Max? Molt?
After further review of Big Monkey, we're going to file this one under "O" for "Oops, we shouldn't have done that".
I'll fill you in online.
So what if the guy is buying multiple carriers :rolleyes:
Quote from: katmai on April 20, 2009, 06:14:02 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 20, 2009, 06:13:18 PM
Quote from: Alcibiades on April 20, 2009, 05:39:35 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 20, 2009, 05:26:46 PM
Hang out wherever you feel comfy. Call them out. KILL KILL KILL
Well i was looking forward to maybe ganging a bit. Any chance of that tonight?
Anyone else going to be available in those areas tonight btw? Max? Molt?
After further review of Big Monkey, we're going to file this one under "O" for "Oops, we shouldn't have done that".
I'll fill you in online.
So what if the guy is buying multiple carriers :rolleyes:
It's not his carriers he's flying that bothers me, it's all the other shit.
WARDEC RETRACTED EJECT EJECT EJECT
OK, after consulting with Aenigmata, I've wardecced TD-IC for spelling "Damnable" wrong. Looks like we're going to Amarr space.
Big Monkey too big for ya?
Bah I was all excited for this.
Quote from: Grey Fox on April 20, 2009, 06:43:56 PM
Big Monkey too big for ya?
Something like that.
Let's get one thing straight: I will only fight those who I can totally cream and whose online gaming experience I can ruin because their skills are markedly lower than mine.
THAT is the IDA.
Okay so went and upgraded my account, so where are my sughadaddys?!?! :P
Quote from: Alcibiades on April 20, 2009, 06:46:39 PM
Bah I was all excited for this.
FYI, while I retracted the wardec, the war is still active for roughly 24 hours, so watch your ass.
Stupid war targets have gone underground.
Somebody send me isk so i can buy my battlecruiser!
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 22, 2009, 05:34:47 AM
Stupid war targets have gone underground.
I ran into a pack of 10 last night. :huh:
Yeah Freddie ran into 9 next to Hek... I ran into one moling in a station. By the time I got to Hek none to be seen.
Dec some more people. :D
TD-IC payoff received. Shares distributed. Wardec retracted.
Quote from: Alcibiades on April 22, 2009, 09:25:52 AM
Dec some more people. :D
I did. HSV Coalition, 70 members, one of whom annoyed me in local for talking too much cockworship about Phillip K. Dick and using the word "steampunk" more than once.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 22, 2009, 06:14:54 PM
Quote from: Alcibiades on April 22, 2009, 09:25:52 AM
Dec some more people. :D
I did. HSV Coalition, 70 members, one of whom annoyed me in local for talking too much cockworship about Phillip K. Dick and using the word "steampunk" more than once.
I hope you made that clear - what is the point of arbitrary and trivial reasons for wars if the target doesn't understand what unacceptable behavior led to it?
Quote from: Berkut on April 22, 2009, 06:41:38 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 22, 2009, 06:14:54 PM
Quote from: Alcibiades on April 22, 2009, 09:25:52 AM
Dec some more people. :D
I did. HSV Coalition, 70 members, one of whom annoyed me in local for talking too much cockworship about Phillip K. Dick and using the word "steampunk" more than once.
I hope you made that clear - what is the point of arbitrary and trivial reasons for wars if the target doesn't understand what unacceptable behavior led to it?
He knows what he did there.
Hope it was a good payoff...
Got one...he was in a fucking punisher though. Got him in perimiter...didn't have the heart to pod him, he was only a few weeks old.
Dunno how to find my kill mail exactly hrm..... lemme look here...
Quote from: Alcibiades on April 22, 2009, 07:48:13 PM
Hope it was a good payoff...
You got yours. Quit bitching.
Quote from: Alcibiades on April 22, 2009, 08:16:32 PM
Got one...he was in a fucking punisher though. Got him in perimiter...didn't have the heart to pod him, he was only a few weeks old.
Dunno how to find my kill mail exactly hrm..... lemme look here...
Character sheet -> Combat log.
2009.04.23 01:03:00
Victim: Mighty Havoc
Corp: Sad Panda Inc.
Alliance: NONE
Faction: NONE
Destroyed: Punisher
System: Urlen
Security: 1.0
Damage Taken: 350
Involved parties:
Name: Vonlutt (laid the final blow)
Security: 1.0
Corp: Irish Democratic Army
Alliance: NONE
Faction: NONE
Ship: Harbinger
Weapon: Heavy Pulse Laser II
Damage Done: 350
Destroyed items:
Dual Light Pulse Laser I
Microwave S
Civilian Shield Booster I, Qty: 2
Dropped items:
Dual Light Pulse Laser I, Qty: 2
Microwave S, Qty: 2
2009.04.23 02:31:00
Victim: l0nagan
Corp: Sad Panda Inc.
Alliance: NONE
Faction: NONE
Destroyed: Arbitrator
System: Eglennaert
Security: 0.8
Damage Taken: 3902
Involved parties:
Name: Vonlutt (laid the final blow)
Security: 1.0
Corp: Irish Democratic Army
Alliance: NONE
Faction: NONE
Ship: Harbinger
Weapon: Hammerhead II
Damage Done: 3902
Destroyed items:
Medium 'Knave' I Energy Drain, Qty: 2
Piranha Light Missile, Qty: 31
'Abandon' Targeting Disruptor I
Valkyrie I, Qty: 2 (Drone Bay)
Y-S8 Hydrocarbon I Afterburners
Small Energy Neutralizer I
Optimal Range Disruption (Cargo)
Beta Hull Mod Overdrive Injector
Piranha Light Missile, Qty: 358 (Cargo)
Capacitor Power Relay I
Warrior I, Qty: 10 (Drone Bay)
Initiated Warp Disruptor I
Tracking Speed Disruption, Qty: 3 (Cargo)
Hammerhead I, Qty: 4 (Drone Bay)
Optimal Range Disruption
Dropped items:
'Abandon' Targeting Disruptor I
Medium 'Accommodation' Vestment Reconstructer I
Beta Hull Mod Overdrive Injector
'Malkuth' Standard Missile Launcher I
Hammerhead I (Drone Bay)
Optimal Range Disruption
Got two tonight...second one seedy and I got baited into though, got jumped. Had to jump out, neuted too hard. :(
That's it, Cyclicus Is fired as DoI for the IDA ASAP!
So who all plays? Jaron and I are thinking of coming back to EVE.. :menace:
Quote from: Fireblade on April 26, 2009, 01:00:36 AM
So who all plays? Jaron and I are thinking of coming back to EVE.. :menace:
Atm it is
CdM
Alci
LocoHambuerguesaMaker
Crazy Ivan
vonMoltke
and Moi.
If i've missed someone, who cares :P
Though vM is always on an alt so he counts as two people :P
Quote from: katmai on April 25, 2009, 11:39:43 PM
That's it, Cyclicus Is fired as DoI for the IDA ASAP!
So yeah when server is back up read your Corp mail seedy, these HSV guys are Sad Panda revisited. Alci and I tried to take some on, both escaped with our lives barely when odds became 9-2 :P
Quote from: katmai on April 26, 2009, 06:23:03 AM
Quote from: katmai on April 25, 2009, 11:39:43 PM
That's it, Cyclicus Is fired as DoI for the IDA ASAP!
So yeah when server is back up read your Corp mail seedy, these HSV guys are Sad Panda revisited. Alci and I tried to take some on, both escaped with our lives barely when odds became 9-2 :P
Oops.
OK, time to get back to the IDA's roots.
I have retracted the Panda and HSV wardecs.
I have come across 4 different M42-3 members, and they're all 90 days old are less, so we're going to focus on griefing them. THIS IS WHAT WE DO. THIS IS THE IDA.
I also wardecced a 14 member mining corp. Why? Because they cockblocked my alt mining.
http://crescentmoon.de/eve
See mining corp. See mining corp be gay. Gay, mining corp, gay.
Edit: Oh yeah, and as if they didn't do enough to incur the wrath of the Irish Democratic Army, they're a fucking RP corp. THEY HAVE FUCKING RP FICTION ON THEIR BOARD. That deserves a wardec on GP alone.
Quote from: katmai on April 26, 2009, 01:04:02 AM
Quote from: Fireblade on April 26, 2009, 01:00:36 AM
So who all plays? Jaron and I are thinking of coming back to EVE.. :menace:
Atm it is
CdM
Alci
LocoHambuerguesaMaker
Crazy Ivan
vonMoltke
and Moi.
If i've missed someone, who cares :P
:cry:
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 26, 2009, 08:01:28 AM
OK, time to get back to the IDA's roots.
Which is what - terrorist attacks on British civilians? :rolleyes:
Quote from: Barrister on April 27, 2009, 01:08:50 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 26, 2009, 08:01:28 AM
OK, time to get back to the IDA's roots.
Which is what - terrorist attacks on British civilians? :rolleyes:
As the IDA is the Irish
Democratic Army, it would entail canvassing for the Clean Water Act. Douchebag faggot.
Got into a nice fleet fight last night. Lost my sniper Apoc. It wasn't pretty.
Can we get a list of everyone's toons and alts that they use in languish channel, to avoid confusion?
I'll start this out...
Mine is Vonlutt, no alts.
My roomate's is Kullgoth ,if you are confused as to why he is in channel.
Quote from: Alcibiades on April 27, 2009, 01:29:26 PM
My roomate's is Kullgoth ,if you are confused as to why he is in channel.
I asked him who the fuck he was, and he didn't answer. I figured he was retarded.
Quote
I asked him who the fuck he was, and he didn't answer. I figured he was retarded.
Well...he is. Is that a problem? :bowler:
Quote from: Drakken on April 27, 2009, 01:05:14 AM
Quote from: katmai on April 26, 2009, 01:04:02 AM
Quote from: Fireblade on April 26, 2009, 01:00:36 AM
So who all plays? Jaron and I are thinking of coming back to EVE.. :menace:
Atm it is
CdM
Alci
LocoHambuerguesaMaker
Crazy Ivan
vonMoltke
and Moi.
If i've missed someone, who cares :P
:cry:
Never seen you in chat channel so :P
Quote from: Berkut on April 27, 2009, 08:37:19 AM
Got into a nice fleet fight last night. Lost my sniper Apoc. It wasn't pretty.
Berkie ignoring us in an MMO :o
:P
Quote from: katmai on April 27, 2009, 09:42:11 PM
Quote from: Drakken on April 27, 2009, 01:05:14 AM
Quote from: katmai on April 26, 2009, 01:04:02 AM
Quote from: Fireblade on April 26, 2009, 01:00:36 AM
So who all plays? Jaron and I are thinking of coming back to EVE.. :menace:
Atm it is
CdM
Alci
LocoHambuerguesaMaker
Crazy Ivan
vonMoltke
and Moi.
If i've missed someone, who cares :P
:cry:
Never seen you in chat channel so :P
I know, I am already in a Corp and Alliance.
While I am training to have Tech 2 drones and field a more varied range of ships, I am currently mostly killing battleship rats and Jewishly selling back the goods salvaged at obsecenely high prices in 0.1, very far away from market hauls like Jita. I make around 2-3mil per hour or so.
Can I convert? :Joos
Doesn't mean you can't visit us in channel. :mad:
Well Al, looks like you'll get your trigger time.
Two merc corps wardecced us. A 1 man corp, and a 2 man corp. :lol:
Kicked in the wardec against Nova Gods. However, we can't wardec M24-4, the sanctuary corp for the M24-3 corp--they joined an alliance to dodge the combat. I checked the price on the Alliance wardec: 150m a week. So that's right out.
Ah shit, that's brutal. 3 mercs all together huh? Uh oh.... :P
Since war began:
M42-3 has gone from 40 members to 16.
Golden Harvest has gone from 14 members to 13.
And we haven't even started shooting at Nova Gods, and they've gone from 60 members to 51.
Cowards.
We need to reconsider our wardec strategy; nobody will come out and play anymore. :blush:
Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 01, 2009, 05:04:58 AM
We need to reconsider our wardec strategy; nobody will come out and play anymore. :blush:
Clearly you are too good at what you do.
Hehe, Seedy is learning what many already know:
The best defense against griefersis to deny them anything to grief. They tend to get bored very quickly.
Your typical griefer has the staying power of a 14 year old boy getting his first blow job.
Quote from: Berkut on May 01, 2009, 09:12:22 AM
Hehe, Seedy is learning what many already know:
The best defense against griefersis to deny them anything to grief. They tend to get bored very quickly.
Your typical griefer has the staying power of a 14 year old boy getting his first blow job.
That is such an unfair assumption.
I have the staying power of at least a 16 year old.
You guys totally suck.
I jumped in on Golden Harvest's mining op, 6 Hulks, 3 haulers, and a single Drake. And none of you fuckers were online to pitch in.
You fail as my minions.
Lame, I was up too. Should have used the bat signal. :mad:
What system? I'm on now.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 03, 2009, 08:15:10 AM
You guys totally suck.
I jumped in on Golden Harvest's mining op, 6 Hulks, 3 haulers, and a single Drake. And none of you fuckers were online to pitch in.
You fail as my minions.
Hmm you posted this at 5am my time, so I was sleeping. :P
Time to consider our wardecs:
Do we proceed against Nova Gods, or commit to others?
We're keeping the Golden Harvest one alive. I want those Krauts dead.
With some riggings, I just equipped 7 Modal Neutron Blasters on my Brutix blasterboat.
My ship is so murderous against rat battleships at close range, that I renamed it "Fistful of Pain". :lol:
http://www.tentonhammer.com/node/67577
QuoteBut I couldn't complain. After all, Gobblock wasn't actually one of my agents - he was just one of 6000 goons - and he hadn't stolen a red cent from IRC, much less a titan, capital fleet and a pile of jump freighters. Against IRC, I hadn't had a card in my hand, because the real thieves had used Gobblock as a cover to shield their identities. In return for financial compensation, the culprits had given Gob doctored screenshots to help him pose as the guilty party, and after I spoke with him, he agreed to play himself off as a 'GIA Agent', acting as if 'his' heist was part of an alliance-level reprisal for the Insmother invasion. To my delight, IRC had fallen for a bastard's bluff.
:ph34r:
Mitanni's good, maybe he should work for the CIA.
Meh, he is so good that he has no credibility at all. Why would anyone believe that this is the truth, and the previous the lie? Or vice versa?
Why would anyone care?
His tentonhammer column is just an extension of his meta-game play anyway - its not like it some kind of real insight into the game mechanics. It is just CAOD, except nobody gets to respond to him.
That's mainly why.
Eh who knows...
On a side note, almost got ganked in lowsec...guess I surprised him. :D
Destroyed his moa and got away with about 7 mill in loot, not too bad.
Dammit Seedy when are you gonna wardec a non euro corp, i never see these assclowns on except for weekend mornings my time
You fag, we could've used you tonight. 5 Nova war targets, Freddy, Alsiegybiades and I were outgunned or we would've gone for it.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 05, 2009, 09:21:40 PM
You fag, we could've used you tonight. 5 Nova war targets, Freddy, Alsiegybiades and I were outgunned or we would've gone for it.
pfft i was on till 9pm your time and only an awol Alci was on. :P
Quote from: katmai on May 05, 2009, 09:23:46 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 05, 2009, 09:21:40 PM
You fag, we could've used you tonight. 5 Nova war targets, Freddy, Alsiegybiades and I were outgunned or we would've gone for it.
pfft i was on till 9pm your time and only an awol Alci was on. :P
Fuck you and your fucked up Tokyo time zone.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 05, 2009, 09:35:21 PM
Quote from: katmai on May 05, 2009, 09:23:46 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 05, 2009, 09:21:40 PM
You fag, we could've used you tonight. 5 Nova war targets, Freddy, Alsiegybiades and I were outgunned or we would've gone for it.
pfft i was on till 9pm your time and only an awol Alci was on. :P
Fuck you and your fucked up Tokyo time zone.
It's 7pm your time, where in the world is CdM?
Dunno, but I'll be in shortly.
Hey grumbler, here's a conversation you'll enjoy.
Quote[01:02:29] Cyclicus Remba > You want to make some money on the side, under the table?
[01:02:38] Cyclicus Remba > Just between us
[01:03:33] XXXXXX > how
[01:04:14] Cyclicus Remba > You feed me intel on your corp's juicy stuff, and I split the loot with you....nobody would be the wiser
[01:04:22] Cyclicus Remba > Nobody would ever have to know
[01:04:46]XXXXXXX > hm
[01:04:58] XXXXXXX > I will think about it but most of these ppl in my corp have nothing
[01:05:08] XXXXXX > a bunch of noobs
[01:05:39] Cyclicus Remba > lol, I'm just interested in griefing the haulers and the miners, and I'll pay you ISK and 1/2 the loot from the drops from successful kills
[01:06:32] XXXXXXXX> well we dont really ahve any miners anymore... everyone started getting second accts
[01:06:32] Cyclicus Remba > Well, you think about it, and think about a price that's comfortable for you, and let me know.
[01:06:42] XXXXX > alright Ill let you know
[01:07:18] Cyclicus Remba > It could be profitable, and we can keep it quiet
[01:07:30] XXXXXXX > we'd have to
[01:08:02] Cyclicus Remba > Definitely, I don't want to screw you over in your corp, just want to make some easy kills, a few drops, and slide you some cash in return
[01:09:03] Cyclicus Remba > Think about it, OK?
[01:09:17] XXXXXXX > roger
[01:10:26] Cyclicus Remba > And...if you get some intel on a hauler moving stuff to market or a hub system, and we gank it, I'll split the loot with you. Iteron IVs can carry a shitload of $$$, you know
[01:11:22] Cyclicus Remba > Drop me a line after you've thought about it, let me know. Hush hush.
[01:12:16] XXXXXX > yeah I will let you know if I hear anything
[01:13:12] Cyclicus Remba > Just drop a line and a price, I'll send you ISK. My alt is a billionaire.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 06, 2009, 08:17:35 PM
Hey grumbler, here's a conversation you'll enjoy.
(snip)
You sound exactly like J.D. LaRue in
Hill Street Blues trying to con some small-time gangster! :lol:
Quote from: grumbler on May 08, 2009, 12:29:10 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 06, 2009, 08:17:35 PM
Hey grumbler, here's a conversation you'll enjoy.
(snip)
You sound exactly like J.D. LaRue in Hill Street Blues trying to con some small-time gangster! :lol:
I know, been meaning to tell him he sounds like working a snitch.
Quote from: katmai on May 08, 2009, 01:05:33 PM
I know, been meaning to tell him he sounds like working a snitch.
J.D. always played the small-time hustler himself.
Jesus, I wish they would release the rest of that series on DVD! :(
It's probably my all-time favorite, right down to the music.
Any of you fuckers going to be on after downtime? It's Golden Harvest's weekly mining op in Manarq; they deliver to Tar. I've got the SS Dazzling Urbanite on Ready 5 in Tar.
You're all getting kicked from the corp.
Quote2009.05.10 12:48:00
Victim: Cyclicus Remba
Corp: Irish Democratic Army
Alliance: NONE
Faction: NONE
Destroyed: Megathron
System: Tar
Security: 0.8
Damage Taken: 38586
Involved parties:
Name: RedIvan2303
Security: 3.8
Corp: Golden Harvest UniCorp
Alliance: NONE
Faction: NONE
Ship: Megathron
Weapon: Valkyrie I
Damage Done: 22831
Name: Babbata
Security: 3.7
Corp: Golden Harvest UniCorp
Alliance: NONE
Faction: NONE
Ship: Typhoon
Weapon: Bane Torpedo
Damage Done: 13705
Name: GROUND XERO (laid the final blow)
Security: -1.3
Corp: Army of Braindead Corporation
Alliance: NONE
Faction: NONE
Ship: Scorpion
Weapon: Caldari Navy Devastator Cruise Missile
Damage Done: 2050
Destroyed items:
Federation Navy Antimatter Charge L, Qty: 999 (Cargo)
Damage Control II
Hobgoblin II (Drone Bay)
Hybrid Discharge Elutriation I
Federation Navy Antimatter Charge L, Qty: 267
Warp Disruptor II
Trimark Armor Pump I
500W Infectious Power System Malfunction
Modal Mega Ion Particle Accelerator I, Qty: 2
Ogre I, Qty: 2 (Drone Bay)
Ancillary Current Router I
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II, Qty: 2
Dropped items:
Capacitor Power Relay II
Hobgoblin II, Qty: 4 (Drone Bay)
Cap Booster 800, Qty: 9 (Cargo)
Federation Navy Antimatter Charge L, Qty: 267
Stasis Webifier II
500W Infectious Power System Malfunction
Large Armor Repairer II
Quad LiF Fueled I Booster Rockets
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Heavy Capacitor Booster II
Modal Mega Ion Particle Accelerator I, Qty: 4
I was in fucking Galveston. :angry:
Is this the end of your intrepid fellowship of griefers? :(
Seedy it's been a target rich tonight , where you at?
He's playing F4.
Took one down...just got taken down by 2 Bs and a drake and ferox in reserve heh. Oh well, win some lose some it's my own fault.
Oh yeah... and P.S. Blood moon and golden H are working together haha. Maybe Novas too.
Quote from: Alcibiades on May 11, 2009, 09:57:44 PM
Took one down...just got taken down by 2 Bs and a drake and ferox in reserve heh. Oh well, win some lose some it's my own fault.
Doh!
Quote from: Alcibiades on May 11, 2009, 09:59:30 PM
Oh yeah... and P.S. Blood moon and golden H are working together haha. Maybe Novas too.
Are they working together, or did they just run into you at the same time? That's happened before, you know.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 12, 2009, 05:16:59 AM
Quote from: Alcibiades on May 11, 2009, 09:59:30 PM
Oh yeah... and P.S. Blood moon and golden H are working together haha. Maybe Novas too.
Are they working together, or did they just run into you at the same time? That's happened before, you know.
It might have started out running into us at same time, but by the time i had to log they were coordinated, it was 7 v 2 by that time.
Quote from: katmai on May 12, 2009, 05:21:26 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 12, 2009, 05:16:59 AM
Quote from: Alcibiades on May 11, 2009, 09:59:30 PM
Oh yeah... and P.S. Blood moon and golden H are working together haha. Maybe Novas too.
Are they working together, or did they just run into you at the same time? That's happened before, you know.
It might have started out running into us at same time, but by the time i had to log they were coordinated, it was 7 v 2 by that time.
Time to let the wardecs lapse, and start over then.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 12, 2009, 05:21:52 AM
Time to let the wardecs lapse, and start over then.
Meh, Alci bagged one early, i came to help him, the BML guys ran to stations so we started searching, ran into nova guys but they were stationed, BML and GH showed up and we split up and then as Alci said he took on that big group after i had logged.
It's just a matter of knowing only gonna catch one or two early every time before they can regroup.
but you are paying for it, so it's your call :P
Quote from: katmai on May 12, 2009, 05:24:37 AMbut you are paying for it, so it's your call :P
You people are a drain on my resources. I should raise taxes. :P
Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 12, 2009, 05:31:00 AM
Quote from: katmai on May 12, 2009, 05:24:37 AMbut you are paying for it, so it's your call :P
You people are a drain on my resources. I should raise taxes. :P
Well i'm sorry that you only attack at 8am on sundays and weren't on last night, both you and Moldy were MIA in primetime! :P
This thread is more fun than the game could ever possibly be. :lol:
Quote from: Syt on May 12, 2009, 05:44:09 AM
This thread is more fun than the game could ever possibly be. :lol:
I know i'm enjoying my time between this and playing an hour or so in Lotro every other night.
Quote from: katmai on May 12, 2009, 05:37:24 AMWell i'm sorry that you only attack at 8am on sundays and weren't on last night, both you and Moldy were MIA in primetime! :P
I have told you people when Golden Harvest does their mining ops.
I have told you where, and how many are involved.
And yet, you fail me, like so many of Vader's admirals.
Maybe you should find a corp that plays on Tokyo time, what with you and your fucked up Palin Standard Time zone, goddammit.
And Syt, STFU and GTFO.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 12, 2009, 05:56:20 AM
Quote from: katmai on May 12, 2009, 05:37:24 AMWell i'm sorry that you only attack at 8am on sundays and weren't on last night, both you and Moldy were MIA in primetime! :P
I have told you people when Golden Harvest does their mining ops.
You told us at 3am my time and 5am Alci's and Moldy's time!
Sadly if it had been any other Sun morning this year i would have been on, but now with summer starting my weekend playing time is going to be heavily reduced ( Sat's from 10:30pm-3am your time and Sundays from like midnight yourtime till whenever)
Hey fucker, got that one man merc corp, golden harvest, and blood moons all coming after me in sync, at least get on and help us fight nublet. :p
Sitting in amarr bored now, watching tv while they camp me, only staying on so they waste their time. :D
WHERE ARE YOU OH GLORIOUS LEADER?!
Some retard pirate attacked me solo while I was ratting in 0.1 space against 3 NPC Battlecruisers and 1 Battleship. He caught me a little off guard because I had lost around half my Armor when I noticed I was being targeted by a Pirate.
He warp scrambled me and, the idiot, came at close range against my Brutix, which is all made for being a killer blasterboat. He didn't last a minute. :lmfao:
He had the nerve to write "GF" to me on Local afterwards. Yeah, good fight, a lone Wolf attacking me at close-range when I have 7 Meta 4 Tech 1 Medium Neutron Blasters, 4 Hammerhead II Drones, a Target Painter, and a Webber. And I wasn't even at full energy, I had almost depleted all my Armor and you dented my hull.
You deserve a the Eve Darwin Award for your feat, retard.
Quote2009.05.15 05:46:00
Victim: BelieveKoKo
Corp: BelieveXxxX
Alliance: Dark Taboo
Faction: NONE
Destroyed: Wolf
System: Karan
Security: 0.1
Damage Taken: 2156
Involved parties:
Name: Li Fengxian (laid the final blow)
Security: -0.4
Corp: Butterfly Effect Corp.
Alliance: The Lorenz Alliance
Faction: NONE
Ship: Brutix
Weapon: Modal Neutron Particle Accelerator I
Damage Done: 2156
Destroyed items:
200mm AutoCannon II, Qty: 2
Warp Scrambler II
Projectile Burst Aerator I
Damage Control II
Hail S, Qty: 99
Small Armor Repairer II
Projectile Collision Accelerator I
Dropped items:
Barrage S, Qty: 5262 (Cargo)
200mm AutoCannon II, Qty: 2
Gyrostabilizer II
EMP S, Qty: 3946 (Cargo)
Hail S, Qty: 1476 (Cargo)
Adaptive Nano Plating II
Hail S, Qty: 33
1MN MicroWarpdrive II
Butterfly effect...
I think seedy was pondering on war decing them :P
Heh. That dumbass rigged a piece of shit assfrig.
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on May 15, 2009, 01:52:53 AM
Heh. That dumbass rigged a piece of shit assfrig.
dammit mbm where the hell you been!?!?!
Quote from: katmai on May 15, 2009, 01:54:31 AM
dammit mbm where the hell you been!?!?!
Playing FSX. :P Hey the MBM alt got Drones V finished yesterday. He's actually fairly useful now, in a bumbling moron kind of way.
Good, we need him now more than ever. :)
So Alcy, after all my work, are you abandoning the plan to get into a Zealot in the face of that 20+ day Cruiser V train?
Slightly modified it, my play style is much more rewarding to use a harbinger at the moment. Doing learning skills, and some more specialization while moving towards a bs. I can send you my current plan for critiquing if you'd like...
Yeah, I can't fly alone around there any way. They sit on both sides of gates, just got nabbed again.
Berkut is a douchebag.
There's a patch coming on Tuesday:
QuoteJumping through a gate will no longer cause the client to lock up.
:lmfao:
http://www.eveonline.com/updates/patchnotes.asp?patchlogID=189
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on May 24, 2009, 10:14:49 AM
There's a patch coming on Tuesday:
QuoteJumping through a gate will no longer cause the client to lock up.
:lmfao:
http://www.eveonline.com/updates/patchnotes.asp?patchlogID=189
I've been experiencing that bug. <_<
Quote from: vonmoltke on May 24, 2009, 05:40:44 PM
I've been experiencing that bug. <_<
I'm glad I pretty much stopped undocking again, let alone leaving systems and whatnot. :P
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on May 24, 2009, 06:11:21 PM
Quote from: vonmoltke on May 24, 2009, 05:40:44 PM
I've been experiencing that bug. <_<
I'm glad I pretty much stopped undocking again, let alone leaving systems and whatnot. :P
Fortunately I haven't been doing much except mining and market runs, so it isn't a major impact, but its still annoying when it happens.
Quote from: vonmoltke on May 24, 2009, 06:15:47 PM
Fortunately I haven't been doing much except mining and market runs, so it isn't a major impact, but its still annoying when it happens.
How often does it happen?
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on May 24, 2009, 06:18:26 PM
Quote from: vonmoltke on May 24, 2009, 06:15:47 PM
Fortunately I haven't been doing much except mining and market runs, so it isn't a major impact, but its still annoying when it happens.
How often does it happen?
Seems to happen to me on average 20% of the times I jump.
Quote from: vonmoltke on May 24, 2009, 06:25:17 PM
Seems to happen to me on average 20% of the times I jump.
Damn. And it totally locks the client, requiring a restart, etc?
Edit: Titan conga: (https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg40.imageshack.us%2Fimg40%2F7643%2Fconga1.jpg&hash=9bf7d3c5c9f12c450f7cb4d6273e7f6103fa73a0)
:lol: Not mine, of course. More shots in the TITANS ONLINE CAOD thread, if one is so inclined.
Edit2: Whoa...you can adjust the size of an image inside a post? Nifty.
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on May 24, 2009, 06:39:10 PM
Damn. And it totally locks the client, requiring a restart, etc?
The client itself is fine, but the UI disappears and is replaced by a strange, jittering version of the space background for the system. The options menu still responds, but you have to log out and back in to clear the glitch.
Might as well wait until Tuesday, it's virtually unplayable now.
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmyeve.eve-online.com%2Fbitmaps%2Fcharacter%2Flevel2.gif&hash=1660e388e3bd106dce71d40902fc81291d735ed1) Large Beam Laser Specialization
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmyeve.eve-online.com%2Fbitmaps%2Fcharacter%2Flevel4.gif&hash=c6b13c848c07d3b4e35db3a4e7be638d8be88139) Medium Beam Laser Specialization
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmyeve.eve-online.com%2Fbitmaps%2Fcharacter%2Flevel3.gif&hash=a903bb655b0bf9632f5932a20a64bd0a365debf0) Medium Pulse Laser Specialization <--- wtf
:bleeding: Goddammit. I need to pay more attention to what I'm training (or did before the queue). I finally cloned to where I keep future books stashed, had the large pulse one all ready to go, then noticed this.
CCP are morons.
QuotePlayer Cyclicus, we failed to bill your CreditCard account today, 26 May 2009, in the amount of 14.95 USD.
Meanwhile...at the secret bank hideout...
Quote05-26-2009 POS Withdrawal CCP GAMES ORDERID:7875496SLOUGH $14.95
So my account is locked up.
They get that figured out yet?
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on May 28, 2009, 09:57:52 AM
They get that figured out yet?
OK, apparently my bank statement reflected the withdrawal from my other character; my bank apparently had a security alert implemented a lockdown feature on their accounts, denying certain transactions overseas, specifically to Great Britain--which, incidentally CCP takes in their money.
So, I made a PayPal transaction. Didn't even notice I had a $25 credit in that puppy.
Geddon #2 lost. Got primaried by the remnants of a fleet of Romanians who survived a DD. What's stupid is I had bounced off the POS shields and sat there looking confused for a few seconds before dying/remembering it was an allied POS which means it needs a PW (the dying + remembering happened at the same time). Oops. :lol:
Oh well...6 KMs from tonight with my name on them posted so far. 55 kills total between the two ships. That fitting really works.
That OK, I lost the Hyperion in wormhole space. Oops.
What fitting are you using Mad?
IRC had a huge CTA on Friday right in the middle of the workday to go save one of our main systems that RA had put into reinforced. The thing is, this was right during their primetime, which we (of course) are generally not active in. A bunch of people took off time from work, etc. I could not.
Sat there reading the KB and alliance forums all day. Huge battle, at one point there were 350 engaged at once.
RA was taken by surprise I think, and we reinforced all IRC towers, destroyed all RA towers, and killed ~200 RA and friends ships, for the loss of something like 124 of our own. And epic fight, it went on all day, with 4 major engagements.
Most of the IRC losses were actually to a third party that showed up and jumped a support fleet unexpectedly. They wiped out some 50 IRC ships, and were then wiped out themselves.
If 0.0 was like that more often, this would be such an awesome game....
Quote from: Berkut on May 31, 2009, 10:13:49 AM
What fitting are you using Mad?
They were the ghetto antisupport Armageddons. Essentially just plated pulse geddons with tracking gear and a sensor booster. Probably won't be using them much anymore, since the T2 pulse Apoc is much better at that sort of thing
and is a ship the corp/alliance reimburses with each loss.
Really the only thing that sucks about that pulse Apoc is the initial investment required. It's much higher than the Geddon, but then again, I can't afford either one right now, so that doesn't really matter atm, right? :P
The Red Alliance War rages on:
http://www.eveonline.com/news.asp?a=single&nid=3089&tid=7
Quote3H58-R (http://www.eveonline.com/news.asp?a=utype&tyid=3&cid=30002325), Etherium Reach - Fighting between the Ethereal Crossing Coalition (Ethereal Dawn (http://www.eveonline.com/news.asp?a=utype&tyid=6&cid=494403294) [ED] / Intrepid Crossing (http://www.eveonline.com/news.asp?a=utype&tyid=6&cid=673381830) [IRC]) and the Red Alliance (http://www.eveonline.com/news.asp?a=utype&tyid=6&cid=1220922756) and allies continues unabated throughout the region. With Red Alliance (http://www.eveonline.com/news.asp?a=utype&tyid=6&cid=1220922756) currently holding half of Ethereal Dawn (http://www.eveonline.com/news.asp?a=utype&tyid=6&cid=494403294)'s four stations in the 6TT8-Z (http://www.eveonline.com/news.asp?a=utype&tyid=4&cid=20000341) constellation, or "the loop" as local residents refer to it, the outcome of this war remains uncertain. Both sides are committed to a fight until the end; there will be no surrender, no compromise.
While there has been some relief to the embattled Coalition, Red Alliance (http://www.eveonline.com/news.asp?a=utype&tyid=6&cid=1220922756) forces remain firmly entrenched deep within Ethereal Dawn (http://www.eveonline.com/news.asp?a=utype&tyid=6&cid=494403294) territory. Pressure was relieved on the Coalition when Majesta Empire (http://www.eveonline.com/news.asp?a=utype&tyid=6&cid=1620533655) [ME] and The Initiative. (http://www.eveonline.com/news.asp?a=utype&tyid=6&cid=1900696668) [INIT.] withdrew from the fight when SOLAR FLEET (http://www.eveonline.com/news.asp?a=utype&tyid=6&cid=1208295500) [SOLAR] appeared on the scene. The withdrawal of United Legion [UNL] due to the war in Immensea with [ATLAS] and Aggression. (http://www.eveonline.com/news.asp?a=utype&tyid=6&cid=1985118511) [AGGRO] alliances, also gave the Coalition a small respite.
Czech Lion of Best Path Inc. [BPINC], a member of [ED]'s High Command, states that forces currently arrayed against Ethereal Dawn (http://www.eveonline.com/news.asp?a=utype&tyid=6&cid=494403294) and Intrepid Crossing (http://www.eveonline.com/news.asp?a=utype&tyid=6&cid=673381830) include "Red Alliance (http://www.eveonline.com/news.asp?a=utype&tyid=6&cid=1220922756), Voodoo Technologies [VIP], LUCKY LEAGUE (http://www.eveonline.com/news.asp?a=utype&tyid=6&cid=319175599) [LUCKY], Red Army Alliance (http://www.eveonline.com/news.asp?a=utype&tyid=6&cid=1210620300) [REDAR] and Sc0rched Earth (http://www.eveonline.com/news.asp?a=utype&tyid=6&cid=1521124792) [BYRN]." Additionally, while [SOLAR] did act against some of the alliances that were members of the Northern Coalition, it is unknown if they would enter into hostilities against the Red Alliance (http://www.eveonline.com/news.asp?a=utype&tyid=6&cid=1220922756) as they are currently friendly.
According to Red Alliance (http://www.eveonline.com/news.asp?a=utype&tyid=6&cid=1220922756) fleet commander Bapp of Warriors Tribe [W.T.], forces are poised for the last push into Ethereal Dawn (http://www.eveonline.com/news.asp?a=utype&tyid=6&cid=494403294)'s capital system of 3H58-R (http://www.eveonline.com/news.asp?a=utype&tyid=3&cid=30002325): "When ED's towers in that system come out of reinforced mode there will, possibly, be the final battle for sovereignty." Although Bapp would not discuss the timing of any assaults, he tells us that has amassed a large force including several titans in preparation for the taking of the system.
Czech Lion doesn't see the loss of 3H58-R (http://www.eveonline.com/news.asp?a=utype&tyid=3&cid=30002325) as anything significant; "we will have one less grouping point and can focus on smaller territories, until we have the power to get it back" Further he stated "it's a typical war of attrition...but that's what we chose and people don't have to worry, we will stay in combat as long as necessary; it's a challenge we are willing to accept".
While both sides acknowledge that there has been a tentative offer of peace from the Red Alliance (http://www.eveonline.com/news.asp?a=utype&tyid=6&cid=1220922756), according to Czech Lion it has been categorically rejected. Specifically he remarked "the RA peace offer consisted of wanting to get two titans from us, which we happily denied", adding further that, "as can be seen that we are still in the fight, it is a thing of honor and self-respect to not just fold and be slaves. We either can defend it or not."
With the rejection of their offer, Bapp signaled that there would be no stopping for his alliance in this war, short of completely removing the Ethereal Crossing Coalition from null sec, stating that, "we already offered them safe way to end this war, but they said that price is too high for them and they rejected it. So, it seems like they want to die; we will help them in that way."
On this point both sides agree; there will be no peace. What started out as isolated border skirmishes has escalated to the level of a blood feud. Even if one side or the other loses their sovereignty, they are committed to the further prosecution of this conflict, as evidenced by Czech Lion's closing remarks "Even if we lose the space, we are in this for long haul; we are going to attack their space, hit their infrastructure, and continue the war to kill them."
It would be interesting to see RA come out with a Titan - so far they have been rather absent from the war.
Meh, I just hope IRC gets assraped. And how.
:lol: MRCHI totally fucked up dropping an outpost yesterday. The chatlogs are just lovely.
Quote from: MRCHI member> ruh roh
> someone missed 851 plutonium somewhere
Apparently, plutonium is illegal in Amarr space for whatever RP reason (this is an Amarr outpost), so they had to go to Gallente space to get some, but didn't make it back before DT hit (the guy supposedly was within 30km of the egg when the servers shut down), resulting in 25 billion isk worth of outpost egg sitting in space until the next DT.
I guess thankfully for MRCHI, Kenny and friends are semi retarded, and didn't notice the titan pilots, major logistics guys, and fleet commanders hanging around quietly in an uninhabited system the few times they jumped through there.
Edit: http://evemaps.dotlan.net/system/1-2J4P
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 03, 2009, 05:23:52 PM
Meh, I just hope IRC gets assraped. And how.
Nobody does spurned petulance the way Seedy does it, that is for sure.
Quote from: Berkut on June 03, 2009, 07:34:54 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 03, 2009, 05:23:52 PM
Meh, I just hope IRC gets assraped. And how.
Nobody does spurned petulance the way Seedy does it, that is for sure.
He is an artiste!
I am not at all surprised that when it comes right down to it, Seedy finds the first excuse to root for the Russians.
Quote from: Berkut on June 03, 2009, 09:41:59 PM
I am not at all surprised that when it comes right down to it, Seedy finds the first excuse to root for the Russians.
Hey, it worked for World War II. Didn't want to do it. Felt obligated.
Quote from: Berkut on June 03, 2009, 09:41:59 PM
I am not at all surprised that when it comes right down to it, Seedy finds the first excuse to root for the Russians.
Hm.
My corp is joining IRC shorty, hoping to find a lot of commies in my crosshairs :yes:
Cool, welcome to the fight!
We have been very pleasantly surprised by the number of corps expressing an interest in joining since the war with the Goon pets started, especially when IRC did not fold in a week as Goebbels/Mittani predicted.
And RA is actually pretty good enemies to have. They come out and fight, they don't talk a bunch of smack, and fun is (mostly) had by all.
What the hell were you and mystery man doing last night any way?
Quote from: Alcibiades on June 04, 2009, 09:31:56 AM
What the hell were you and mystery man doing last night any way?
What do you mean?
Arv is a friend and co-worker of mine. He was on a POS bashing Op, and I was working on a patch release of the software we write, and we were having some issues, so we were talking about it.
Yeah...lot of mumbo jumbo flying around in the channel. Wasn't sure what was going on. :P
Quote from: Berkut on June 04, 2009, 07:48:24 AM
We have been very pleasantly surprised by the number of corps expressing an interest in joining since the war with the Goon pets started, especially when IRC did not fold in a week as Goebbels/Mittani predicted.
:lmfao:
Yes, things were going swimmingly for you guys over there before the SOLAR intervention. Those are Russians
you should be cheering for, btw.
Also: "Goon pets"? Jesus...and to think the GS directors offered to sell you people even more territory...
Oh please, things were going ok, considering the Goons and their NAPfest sent about 8 different alliances up against us (but not the Goons themselves, of course - they are much too busy taking R64 moons for themselves to bother).
The point is we did not fold, and held out pretty well in fact, despite the ridiculous numbers, the treachery from within, and Goons standard lies and betrayals.
When the 800lb gorilla of Eve confidently plays their meta game, steals a shitload of caps, then send all their little pets after you, and you don't fall apart, then that is in fact pretty cool. May not matter in the end, but meh, so what? All you can do is resist them as long as possible.
you are a foot soldier in the army of the Reich MBM. A faithful and loyal peasant fighting for people who would screw you in an instant if it meant they could get a laugh out of it.
Quote from: Berkut on June 04, 2009, 11:25:06 AM
Oh please, things were going ok, considering the Goons and their NAPfest sent about 8 different alliances up against us (but not the Goons themselves, of course - they are much too busy taking R64 moons for themselves to bother).
The point is we did not fold, and held out pretty well in fact, despite the ridiculous numbers, the treachery from within, and Goons standard lies and betrayals.
Your invasion failed miserably, and you were being invaded back. That's not "ok," nor is that "holding out pretty well." Even with Mactep and SOLAR, who are GS allies, btw, there's still fighting going on in your home regions (that came from GoonSwarm).
QuoteWhen the 800lb gorilla of Eve confidently plays their meta game, steals a shitload of caps, then send all their little pets after you, and you don't fall apart, then that is in fact pretty cool. May not matter in the end, but meh, so what? All you can do is resist them as long as possible.
What little pets? Are you talking about RA? Some of the NC people?
Edit: And wasn't it one of your own corps who stole all that shit from you and went "fuck IRC"??
Edit2: Yes...TITTS....They're a member of ZAF now, who are still our allies.
Quoteyou are a foot soldier in the army of the Reich MBM. A faithful and loyal peasant fighting for people who would screw you in an instant if it meant they could get a laugh out of it.
Um.....a foot soldier in the army of the Reich? :lol: Mittani is Goebbels too. What...did they make you some sort of propaganda director or morale director or some shit?
If they did, I certainly would not spend my time on Languish of all places, would I?
There isn't anyone to propagandize to - and I am nothing in IRC, just calling it like I see it.
Quote from: Berkut on June 04, 2009, 11:50:06 AM
If they did, I certainly would not spend my time on Languish of all places, would I?
:unsure: Why wouldn't you come to Languish?
QuoteThere isn't anyone to propagandize to - and I am nothing in IRC, just calling it like I see it.
So you
actually see GoonSwarm as some weird video game Nazi Germany? Really?
Also:
QuoteWhat little pets? Are you talking about RA? Some of the NC people?
What pets are you talking about? I would like to know.
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on June 04, 2009, 11:31:52 AM
Quote from: Berkut on June 04, 2009, 11:25:06 AM
Oh please, things were going ok, considering the Goons and their NAPfest sent about 8 different alliances up against us (but not the Goons themselves, of course - they are much too busy taking R64 moons for themselves to bother).
The point is we did not fold, and held out pretty well in fact, despite the ridiculous numbers, the treachery from within, and Goons standard lies and betrayals.
Your invasion failed miserably, and you were being invaded back. That's not "ok," nor is that "holding out pretty well." Even with Mactep and SOLAR, who are GS allies, btw, there's still fighting going on in your home regions (that came from GoonSwarm).
Actually our "invasion" was going just fine until the Goons got all their pets to break their blue status and sent them all after IRC/ED. And yes, when it is IRC/ED against all the Goon pets, outnumbered 3 or 4 to 1, and after the Goons did their little meta game crap, AND trumpeted how we would fold in a week or two, we did just fine, and are doing just fine.
Quote
QuoteWhen the 800lb gorilla of Eve confidently plays their meta game, steals a shitload of caps, then send all their little pets after you, and you don't fall apart, then that is in fact pretty cool. May not matter in the end, but meh, so what? All you can do is resist them as long as possible.
What little pets? Are you talking about RA? Some of the NC people?
All the various alliances that Goon sent against IRC/ED, of course - including RA and such, after the constructed war.
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Edit: And wasn't it one of your own corps who stole all that shit from you and went "fuck IRC"??
No, it was a Goon spy, which of course you know. I don't understand why you are regurgitating this crap here - we both know what actually happened, so what is the point? it is like the original crap about how the war started between RA and IRC to begin with.
I understand the Goon strategy of propaganda in general, but why are you playing along in what is essentially a private forum? Why are you insisting that the Poles really did attack the german radio station - when there isn't anyone to actually convince?
On a totally unrelated note....leaving the IDA....have to do something...haven't had a reason to log in... :hide:
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on June 04, 2009, 11:55:30 AM
Quote from: Berkut on June 04, 2009, 11:50:06 AM
If they did, I certainly would not spend my time on Languish of all places, would I?
:unsure: Why wouldn't you come to Languish?
If my job was to propagandize for IRC, what would be the point of doing so on Languish, when there isn't anyone to propagandize too?
That is why I don't understand why you insist on repeating the propaganda of GS here - we both know it isn't true, so what is the point? Mittani et all do a great job of spreading their crap, but they do so publicly, where it can do some good, so that makes sense.
What are you hoping to gain by repeating it as if you really believed it to be true, when we both know it isn't?
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QuoteThere isn't anyone to propagandize to - and I am nothing in IRC, just calling it like I see it.
So you actually see GoonSwarm as some weird video game Nazi Germany? Really?
I see GS as everything that sucks about MP games writ large. Their goal is not to win, but to grief and ruin the game for others, and they will do anything to do just that. They are astoundingly good at it, mores the pity. This is SOP for the Something Awful crowd, of course, and they will say the same thing.
I am always surprised though why they get so much support from others who are not coming from SA though. I get why SA does it - their idea of fun is griefing. There are those kinds in all games. but what makes them so lame is the lemmings that follow them. They make BoB look like paragons of virtue.
Quote from: Alcibiades on June 04, 2009, 12:04:58 PM
On a totally unrelated note....leaving the IDA....have to do something...haven't had a reason to log in... :hide:
Join PRCP, and come fight against the Russians.
We probably won't win (I am pretty sure that once/if we do turn things around against RA GS will just take the time to smash us), but there is plenty of fighting, and you can be part of the small minority standing up to the new Evil Empire.
Quote from: Berkut on June 04, 2009, 11:58:04 AM
Actually our "invasion" was going just fine until the Goons got all their pets to break their blue status and sent them all after IRC/ED. And yes, when it is IRC/ED against all the Goon pets, outnumbered 3 or 4 to 1, and after the Goons did their little meta game crap, AND trumpeted how we would fold in a week or two, we did just fine, and are doing just fine.
What did you think would happen when you invaded RA space?
QuoteAll the various alliances that Goon sent against IRC/ED, of course - including RA and such, after the constructed war.
"Constructed" war? Do tell. You know...for this huge evil empire that can control every aspect of the game, GoonSwarm really seem to fuck it all up quite a bit. You never did explain why "we" would...fabricate...this war between RA/Whoever and IRC/ED and therefore distracting them while they were actively helping us against some other Russians and KenZoku.
RA as a pet? Lol? And you know who SOLAR is, right? You know where they (or a bunch of them) came from, right? Mactep? Name ring a bell?
QuoteNo, it was a Goon spy, which of course you know. I don't understand why you are regurgitating this crap here - we both know what actually happened, so what is the point? it is like the original crap about how the war started between RA and IRC to begin with.
So it wasn't TITTS? One alt of a character that is active in GS took all that shit? Really? Gobblock? So where did TITTS get all that stuff they have from?
QuoteI understand the Goon strategy of propaganda in general, but why are you playing along in what is essentially a private forum? Why are you insisting that the Poles really did attack the german radio station - when there isn't anyone to actually convince?
Um.....
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QuoteIf my job was to propagandize for IRC, what would be the point of doing so on Languish, when there isn't anyone to propagandize too?
That is why I don't understand why you insist on repeating the propaganda of GS here - we both know it isn't true, so what is the point? Mittani et all do a great job of spreading their crap, but they do so publicly, where it can do some good, so that makes sense.
What are you hoping to gain by repeating it as if you really believed it to be true, when we both know it isn't?
So...you're going on with the whole Nazi Germany/Evil Empire/drone foot soldier type stuff........why?
QuoteI see GS as everything that sucks about MP games writ large. Their goal is not to win, but to grief and ruin the game for others, and they will do anything to do just that. They are astoundingly good at it, mores the pity. This is SOP for the Something Awful crowd, of course, and they will say the same thing.
I am always surprised though why they get so much support from others who are not coming from SA though. I get why SA does it - their idea of fun is griefing. There are those kinds in all games. but what makes them so lame is the lemmings that follow them. They make BoB look like paragons of virtue.
:lmfao:
Quote from: Berkut on June 04, 2009, 12:09:18 PM
Quote from: Alcibiades on June 04, 2009, 12:04:58 PM
On a totally unrelated note....leaving the IDA....have to do something...haven't had a reason to log in... :hide:
Join PRCP, and come fight against the Russians.
We probably won't win (I am pretty sure that once/if we do turn things around against RA GS will just take the time to smash us), but there is plenty of fighting, and you can be part of the small minority standing up to the new Evil Empire.
I would...but I haven't "evolved" to the point where I find being on as many KM's as possible 'fun'. :unsure:
Joining one of the corps we griefed, they're moving into low sec now, and 0.0 shortly. -_-
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on June 04, 2009, 12:10:48 PM
Quote from: Berkut on June 04, 2009, 11:58:04 AM
Actually our "invasion" was going just fine until the Goons got all their pets to break their blue status and sent them all after IRC/ED. And yes, when it is IRC/ED against all the Goon pets, outnumbered 3 or 4 to 1, and after the Goons did their little meta game crap, AND trumpeted how we would fold in a week or two, we did just fine, and are doing just fine.
What did you think would happen when you invaded RA space?
I don't know, nobody asked me. But we didn't start that war, RA did - what did they think would happen?
I guess they didn't think we would actually ATTACK them in response, and apparently that kind of pissed GS off.
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QuoteAll the various alliances that Goon sent against IRC/ED, of course - including RA and such, after the constructed war.
"Constructed" war? Do tell.
RA started the war, IRC invaded, RA realized they had bitten off more than they really wanted to chew, and GS bailed them out.
I still wonder if the entire thing was not orchestrated by GS so they would have a reason to grief IRC who was supposedly an ally at the time. Was the chance at stealing a bunch of shit from IRC and getting to crow about on CAOD just too good to pass up?
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RA as a pet? Lol? And you know who SOLAR is, right? You know where they (or a bunch of them) came from, right? Mactep? Name ring a bell?
Not at all. I know what the relationship used to be between GS and RA, and I know what it is now.
how can you say anything other than that they are a pet? RA got in trouble, GS shook out all the other pets to bail them out.
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QuoteNo, it was a Goon spy, which of course you know. I don't understand why you are regurgitating this crap here - we both know what actually happened, so what is the point? it is like the original crap about how the war started between RA and IRC to begin with.
So it wasn't TITTS? One alt of a character that is active in GS took all that shit? So where did TITTS get all that stuff they have from?
Huh? What are you babbling about? Of course it was Saba from TITTS, that isn't the point. He was a GS spy, and he did the normal GS spy thing. AWE fucked up by letting him do it - but such is the nature of EVE. The game is poorly designed in that respect, since they allow the meta gaming, but do not make any attempt to keep it in any kind of balance.
The real surprise though is that after losing 20 caps and half a titan, the predictions of immediate folding did not happen, even after GS (not surprisingly) lied about resolving the issue. Why IRC high command even agreed to discuss it is beyond me though - they ahd to know that the only reason it was even being offered was to get some more LOLZ for the Goonies.
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QuoteI understand the Goon strategy of propaganda in general, but why are you playing along in what is essentially a private forum? Why are you insisting that the Poles really did attack the german radio station - when there isn't anyone to actually convince?
:huh:
Seems like a pretty simple question - why are you repeating things you know are not true, and you know I know are not true? I know why GS does it in general, I don't know why you are bothering here though.
Quote from: Berkut on June 04, 2009, 12:24:45 PMI don't know, nobody asked me. But we didn't start that war, RA did - what did they think would happen?
I guess they didn't think we would actually ATTACK them in response, and apparently that kind of pissed GS off.
RA started the war, IRC invaded, RA realized they had bitten off more than they really wanted to chew, and GS bailed them out.
I still wonder if the entire thing was not orchestrated by GS so they would have a reason to grief IRC who was supposedly an ally at the time. Was the chance at stealing a bunch of shit from IRC and getting to crow about on CAOD just too good to pass up?
Yeah, you still haven't told me why this would benefit GoonSwarm or RA in any way at all at a time when they and we are actively fighting an enemy much
much more powerful than IRC/ED. This
really didn't help UNL any. I would also like to know why IRC was one of the alliances that GS offered Querious to if GS was just planning on having our pets destroy you?
It doesn't make sense at all. What does is IRC/ED seeing GS leave very abruptly, RA involved with AAA/Etc, and thinking they could make a territory grab. That actually makes a whole helluva lot more sense than RA attacking both AAA/etc and IRC/ED at the same time. Red Alliance leadership has never really come across as monumentally stupid to me...
QuoteNot at all. I know what the relationship used to be between GS and RA, and I know what it is now.
how can you say anything other than that they are a pet? RA got in trouble, GS shook out all the other pets to bail them out.
Shouldn't they be fighting in Querious or something then, instead of the drone regions against you people? The Red Alliance capital fleet would really be a big help in their time zone.
QuoteHuh? What are you babbling about? Of course it was Saba from TITTS, that isn't the point. He was a GS spy, and he did the normal GS spy thing. AWE fucked up by letting him do it - but such is the nature of EVE. The game is poorly designed in that respect, since they allow the meta gaming, but do not make any attempt to keep it in any kind of balance.
The...er....normal spy thing...doesn't generally seem to involve an entire corporation taking everything and joining a different alliance.
QuoteThe real surprise though is that after losing 20 caps and half a titan, the predictions of immediate folding did not happen, even after GS (not surprisingly) lied about resolving the issue. Why IRC high command even agreed to discuss it is beyond me though - they ahd to know that the only reason it was even being offered was to get some more LOLZ for the Goonies.
Indeed. LOLZ for the Goonies.
Really though...I can see where they were coming from about the collapse after reading various logs from IRC, etc. Congrats on not failure cascading.
QuoteSeems like a pretty simple question - why are you repeating things you know are not true, and you know I know are not true? I know why GS does it in general, I don't know why you are bothering here though.
I really don't think you know why GS does anything.
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on June 04, 2009, 12:41:23 PM
Quote from: Berkut on June 04, 2009, 12:24:45 PMI don't know, nobody asked me. But we didn't start that war, RA did - what did they think would happen?
I guess they didn't think we would actually ATTACK them in response, and apparently that kind of pissed GS off.
RA started the war, IRC invaded, RA realized they had bitten off more than they really wanted to chew, and GS bailed them out.
I still wonder if the entire thing was not orchestrated by GS so they would have a reason to grief IRC who was supposedly an ally at the time. Was the chance at stealing a bunch of shit from IRC and getting to crow about on CAOD just too good to pass up?
Yeah, you still haven't told me why this would benefit GoonSwarm or RA in any way at all at a time when they and we are actively fighting an enemy much much more powerful than IRC/ED. This really didn't help UNL any. I would also like to know why IRC was one of the alliances that GS offered Querious to if GS was just planning on having our pets destroy you?
Because they thought IRC would fold, of course. In fact, that is exactly what they said, that IRC would not last 2 weeks, and then they could grab all that space.
Plus they get to pull off another meta game theft coup, and dance around CAOD crowing about it and being worshiped by people who find that so very cool.
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QuoteNot at all. I know what the relationship used to be between GS and RA, and I know what it is now.
how can you say anything other than that they are a pet? RA got in trouble, GS shook out all the other pets to bail them out.
Shouldn't they be fighting in Querious or something then, instead of the drone regions against you people? The Red Alliance capital fleet would really be a big help in their time zone.
Indeed, I am not saying this worked out as GS planned, obviously. They planned to have IRC/ED gone in a matter of weeks, as they stated would certainly happen after the theft and they sent all their pets after them, and forced their NAPfest to go to war.
It would have been a great idea, if it worked. Take a little time to crush IRC/ED, and you can keep your pets happy with the pickings.
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QuoteHuh? What are you babbling about? Of course it was Saba from TITTS, that isn't the point. He was a GS spy, and he did the normal GS spy thing. AWE fucked up by letting him do it - but such is the nature of EVE. The game is poorly designed in that respect, since they allow the meta gaming, but do not make any attempt to keep it in any kind of balance.
The...er....normal spy thing...doesn't generally seem to involve the entire corporation taking everything and joining a different alliance.
Shrug. It was certainly a coup for GS, no doubt. But they love this stuff, brag about it in fact.
If in fact it was NOT GS, then why was Mittani negotiating (obviously in bad faith) to return it?
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QuoteThe real surprise though is that after losing 20 caps and half a titan, the predictions of immediate folding did not happen, even after GS (not surprisingly) lied about resolving the issue. Why IRC high command even agreed to discuss it is beyond me though - they ahd to know that the only reason it was even being offered was to get some more LOLZ for the Goonies.
Probably for the same reason they attacked RA. They don't seem to be the brightest.
Of course - that must be it. That must be why they folded in two weeks, as your fearless leaders predicted. Because they are so stupid.
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QuoteSeems like a pretty simple question - why are you repeating things you know are not true, and you know I know are not true? I know why GS does it in general, I don't know why you are bothering here though.
I really don't think you know why GS does anything.
I think we both do, the only difference I have nothing to gain by pretending otherwise. I know what I am, and what IRC is - nothing particularly special in the Eve world, just one of many alliances.
You are the one trying hard to justify fighting for a bunch of griefers, and the funny thing is that you are doing it by trying to pretend they are something different from what they themselves *insist* they are.
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on June 04, 2009, 12:41:23 PM
Really though...I can see where they were coming from about the collapse after reading various logs from IRC, etc. Congrats on not failure cascading.
LOL, I see you are even spewing back the same Goonspeak right back. You are the GS version of Hansmeister.
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on June 04, 2009, 12:41:23 PM
It doesn't make sense at all. What does is IRC/ED seeing GS leave very abruptly, RA involved with AAA/Etc, and thinking they could make a territory grab. That actually makes a whole helluva lot more sense than RA attacking both AAA/etc and IRC/ED at the same time. Red Alliance leadership has never really come across as monumentally stupid to me...
You know, you could just make a new post, rather than massively editing the old one.
IN any case, what is stupid about GS/RA taking IRC/ED out in a quick campaign and divvying up the spoils amongst the pets?
After all, that is what your Fuhrer guaranteed, right? That IRC would be gone in just a quick campaign, because they could get a a ton of alliances to attack? Gee, that sounds familiar....IRC is stupid, one swift kick and they will collapse, surely!
None of this matters though - we both know that we are pissing in the wind, and that RA attacked IRC It was so clumsily contrived it isn't funny. But then, I guess all you are going for is the fig leaf of cover.
Quote from: Berkut on June 04, 2009, 12:53:38 PM
Because they thought IRC would fold, of course. In fact, that is exactly what they said, that IRC would not last 2 weeks, and then they could grab all that space.
And we wouldn't wait and just totally steamroll you a little later, after Delve and Querious were secured...............why again?
Again: Does not make sense.
QuotePlus they get to pull off another meta game theft coup, and dance around CAOD crowing about it and being worshiped by people who find that so very cool.
I'm not understanding why we would need RA to invade so TITTS could take a bunch of stuff and join Zenith Affinity?
QuoteShrug. It was certainly a coup for GS, no doubt. But they love this stuff, brag about it in fact.
If in fact it was NOT GS, then why was Mittani negotiating (obviously in bad faith) to return it?
TITTS is in Zenith Affinity now, a relatively new ally to GS, not GoonSwarm itself.
Re: Mittani: Because he didn't actually have anything to negotiate with. TITTS had/has everything, Berk.
QuoteOf course - that must be it. That must be why they folded in two weeks, as your fearless leaders predicted. Because they are so stupid.
Well. Yeah. Why else would they make such a stupid "land" grab, then fall for Mittani's bluff?
QuoteI think we both do, the only difference I have nothing to gain by pretending otherwise. I know what I am, and what IRC is - nothing particularly special in the Eve world, just one of many alliances.
You are the one trying hard to justify fighting for a bunch of griefers, and the funny thing is that you are doing it by trying to pretend they are something different from what they themselves *insist* they are.
:lol: I have no idea what you're talking about now. Who's justifying what now?
QuoteLOL, I see you are even spewing back the same Goonspeak right back. You are the GS version of Hansmeister.
What now? All I said was I read various IRC/ED chatlogs and could see why they would think you people were in imminent danger of collapsing. I suppose if you're not a director, you might not have actually seen those though. :lmfao: But yeah, congratulations on still being in existence.
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QuoteYou know, you could just make a new post, rather than massively editing the old one.
IN any case, what is stupid about GS/RA taking IRC/ED out in a quick campaign and divvying up the spoils amongst the pets?
After all, that is what your Fuhrer guaranteed, right? That IRC would be gone in just a quick campaign, because they could get a a ton of alliances to attack? Gee, that sounds familiar....IRC is stupid, one swift kick and they will collapse, surely!
None of this matters though - we both know that we are pissing in the wind, and that RA attacked IRC It was so clumsily contrived it isn't funny. But then, I guess all you are going for is the fig leaf of cover.
Der Fuhrer Darius JOHNSON: "Okay guys! You will attack KenZoku/AAA/SE/C0VEN/Atlas/EXE/Skunk Works/god knows who else
and IRC/ED at the same time and engage in POS warfare with both! What could possibly go wrong?! After you crush IRC, who will surely collapse as soon as their POS timers allow them (weeks), while the other group is directly invading you from next door, you can then turn around and...well you won't be able to do much of anything, but that's alright because you'll have
Etherium Reach!!"
Suddenly retarded RA directors: "Okay boss!"
Even more suddenly retarded UNL directors: "Yeah sure no problem! We aren't fighting for our lives in our home regions or anything!"
The master plan is exposed. :lmfao: It all makes sense now!
(neither RA nor UNL directors are stupid, btw)
Gotta run now. Talk to you later Berk. :)
I am inclined to believe Mittani & state that the Goons got involved because IRC try to territory taken in the 1st War.
Goons, people of SA, do anything & everything for sheer laugh & humilation factor. Eve is no different.
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on June 04, 2009, 01:11:54 PM
Quote from: Berkut on June 04, 2009, 12:53:38 PM
Because they thought IRC would fold, of course. In fact, that is exactly what they said, that IRC would not last 2 weeks, and then they could grab all that space.
And we wouldn't wait and just totally steamroll you a little later, after Delve and Querious were secured...............why again?
Again: Does not make sense.
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Why wait? It will only take a matter of weeks, and it won't even be Goonies doing the work.
Nothing to lose, plenty to gain, makes perfect sense...if in fact IRC is just going to fold, which I am sure is what Saba was telling them.
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QuotePlus they get to pull off another meta game theft coup, and dance around CAOD crowing about it and being worshiped by people who find that so very cool.
I'm not understanding why we would need RA to invade so TITTS could take a bunch of stuff and join Zenith Affinity?
To justify it, of course. Screwing over an actual ally would just make all the current pets nervous. Gotta have that fig leaf!
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QuoteShrug. It was certainly a coup for GS, no doubt. But they love this stuff, brag about it in fact.
If in fact it was NOT GS, then why was Mittani negotiating (obviously in bad faith) to return it?
TITTS is in Zenith Affinity now, a relatively new ally to GS, not GoonSwarm itself.
Like that makes any difference at all? They joined yet another of the GS pets, so what?
They all do as they are told, like good little pets do. The argument that they ahd nothing to do with GS, when they promptly join a GS pet right afterwards is rather rich.
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Re: Mittani: Because he didn't actually have anything to negotiate with. TITTS had/has everything, Berk.
So? They would have handed it over if they were ordered to do so, just like they all do as they are told. Such is the nature of pets. Who has actual physical possession is pretty meaningless, especially when the items in question are stuck in station anyway, and in fact the spy in question is a GS spy to begin with.
QuoteOf course - that must be it. That must be why they folded in two weeks, as your fearless leaders predicted. Because they are so stupid.
Well. Yeah. Why else would they make such a stupid "land" grab, then fall for Mittani's bluff?
So it was a bluff? To what ends? What was Mittani trying to accomplish with this bluff - that apparently worked, since in fact IRC agreed to the terms?
If this was NOT what GS and RA wanted, why did RA and GS attack IRC after IRC agreed to their terms? Why were the terms even offered, except to get some more LOLZ?
GS offereed a deal to IRC - end the war against RA, and the theft would be returned. You are claiming that they could not have concluded that bargain if they wanted to - so why make it, if in fact you don't want to be fighting?
Your sequence of events makes no sense at all - if GS and RA really did not want to fight IRC, then why would they attack IRC after IRC agrees to go hat in hand and beg for their stuff back?
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QuoteI think we both do, the only difference I have nothing to gain by pretending otherwise. I know what I am, and what IRC is - nothing particularly special in the Eve world, just one of many alliances.
You are the one trying hard to justify fighting for a bunch of griefers, and the funny thing is that you are doing it by trying to pretend they are something different from what they themselves *insist* they are.
:lol: I have no idea what you're talking about now.
That seems clear.
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What now? All I said was I read various IRC/ED chatlogs and could see why they would think you people were in imminent danger of collapsing. I suppose if you're not a director, you might not have actually seen those though. :lmfao: But yeah, congratulations on still being in existence.
Oh please. So GS has spies, or rather there are people in every alliance looking for their 15 minutes - so what? I am sure IRC was on the verge of collapse, and only...what? saved them? How did that work - if we are so inept and terrible, which is clear from all these chatlogs, how is that we didn't fold as predicted?
And yeah, when you get ganged up on by the largest alliance in Eve with their followings of pets, surviving is better than not. Which was the original point - people are in fact pretty impressed that IRC has managed to hold out against all the GS pets.
Quote from: Grey Fox on June 04, 2009, 01:16:55 PM
Goons, people of SA, do anything & everything for sheer laugh & humilation factor. Eve is no different.
This part is correct. They are simply griefers, albeit very good ones.
You can believe them if you want - lord knows plenty do. Mittani is very good at what he does.
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on June 04, 2009, 01:11:54 PM
Der Fuhrer Darius JOHNSON: "Okay guys! You will attack KenZoku/AAA/SE/C0VEN/Atlas/EXE/Skunk Works/god knows who else and IRC/ED at the same time and engage in POS warfare with both! What could possibly go wrong?! After you crush IRC, who will surely collapse as soon as their POS timers allow them (weeks), while the other group is directly invading you from next door, you can then turn around and...well you won't be able to do much of anything, but that's alright because you'll have Etherium Reach!!"
Suddenly retarded RA directors: "Okay boss!"
you can't have it both ways MBM - it cannot be the case that they would never get into a war in ER because it would distract them from their main effort, while at the same time insisting that in fact they had good reason to believe that it would not be a distraction, and IRC/ED would fold quickly, and without GS involvement anyway.
I wouldnt be overly surprised if it went something like this:
Goons informing RA that their role in the Great War(tm) is to open a secon front against AAA
RA deciding that getting their gangs wiped out by AAA isnt so fun after all and decides to go for some roams in IRC space instead.
IRC gets pissed (or just decides this is a convenient excuse to get more space) and starts a full scale invasion of RA systems
Goons notices and goes, "wtf RA you are not fighting AAA like you said, whats up?"
RA plays innocent and says that they are under attack. Goons do what they can to end the war using some metagaming tools or other(spies, bluffing or whatever) but when IRC tries to back out it turns out that RA wasnt really intressted in leaving this war after all...
I dont think the goons wanted this war, its not really in their intresst. But i do think there are various entities in the anti-ken alliance that would much rather have their pew-pew closer to home, against smaller foes and for more space for themselves, and does their best to find an excuse to do so.
Personally i was quite impressed to see IRC hold togeather and fight back even when they started to loose space to majesta, everyone expected them to fall apart (perhaps even they did) and looking back at the fate of other alliances in similar situations by conventional logic they should have. After holding out til Solar Fleets intervention removed majesta from the equation it looks like there is a very intressting fight to be had in this area of space :)
Quote from: BerkutSo it was a bluff? To what ends? What was Mittani trying to accomplish with this bluff - that apparently worked, since in fact IRC agreed to the terms?
If this was NOT what GS and RA wanted, why did RA and GS attack IRC after IRC agreed to their terms? Why were the terms even offered, except to get some more LOLZ?
GS offereed a deal to IRC - end the war against RA, and the theft would be returned. You are claiming that they could not have concluded that bargain if they wanted to - so why make it, if in fact you don't want to be fighting?
Your sequence of events makes no sense at all - if GS and RA really did not want to fight IRC, then why would they attack IRC after IRC agrees to go hat in hand and beg for their stuff back?
TITTS was in possession of all that stuff, not Mittani. I don't know what else to tell you.
Possible reasons for the terms: Getting IRC out of Insmother so RA could go on the offensive and kick your asses? Buying time to get more of your stuff out of your systems? Confusing your idiot leadership? They all seem to actually have happened.
Reasons for GS and RA attacking after the terms were agreed to: I'm not entirely sure why they (RA, not GS, since GS isn't invading Etherium Reach) would ever trust you again? IRC/ED invaded RA space while they were at least friendly to GS (I don't know what your standings were between each other). Why would they give you time to rebuild your capital fleet so you can just attack again? That would be stupid. Just like us initiating the war in the first place would be stupid.
Quote from: BerkutThat seems clear.
Well, if you made sense, it would help things along. :)
Quote from: BerkutOh please. So GS has spies, or rather there are people in every alliance looking for their 15 minutes - so what? I am sure IRC was on the verge of collapse, and only...what? saved them? How did that work - if we are so inept and terrible, which is clear from all these chatlogs, how is that we didn't fold as predicted?
I don't know what saved you. I don't particularly care, really. I just know what I read. Your leadership was panicking and fighting with each other. A collapse of some sort looked imminent. Sorry it didn't happen, I guess?
QuoteAnd yeah, when you get ganged up on by the largest alliance in Eve with their followings of pets, surviving is better than not. Which was the original point - people are in fact pretty impressed that IRC has managed to hold out against all the GS pets.
You haven't been "ganged" up on by the largest alliance in the game and "our pets." You would notice a GS/RA/All Allies invasion of Etherium Reach.
Quote from: Berkut on June 04, 2009, 01:34:38 PMyou can't have it both ways MBM - it cannot be the case that they would never get into a war in ER because it would distract them from their main effort, while at the same time insisting that in fact they had good reason to believe that it would not be a distraction, and IRC/ED would fold quickly, and without GS involvement anyway.
Again: Why not wait until
after Delve and Querious (and Detorid/old Goon space for that matter) are secured before we go and steamroll your sorry asses in order to give Etherium Reach to RA? Why force RA to fight a two front war? Why involve UNL in something that seems to have really fucked them up?
For the last time: An RA/etc invasion of Etherium Reach, an area held by IRC and ED, two alliances who are directly next door to RA, at a time when RA/etc are committed to securing former Goon space and attacking/replacing/etc AAA POS's
does not make sense, and would never make sense. Opening a two front POS war is what we were trying to do to AAA, not Red Alliance. This is really simple shit.
Besuchov: GoonSwarm doesn't "inform" Red Alliance of their role in anything. Despite what Berkut wants to think, RA is not, has never been, and, barring some incredible failure cascade, will never ever be, a GoonSwarm "pet." RA, xXDeathXx, UNL, etc, were attacking AAA from that direction because AAA threw their lot in with KenZoku, among other reasons, and because it would help destroy KenZoku. None of this had anything to do with IRC/ED, aside from them being blue to everyone not called Kenny, until suddenly there's this war with RA.
The options seem to be A) GoonSwarm wanted to get (their pet) RA involved in a two front war and essentially kill off UNL, B) Red Alliance leadership is incredibly stupid, C) IRC/ED attacked Red Alliance and it didn't go as planned.
I'm going with option C, since the other two don't make any sense. RA isn't a GS pet, and we don't want them or UNL screwed over, and RA leadership isn't incredibly stupid. They were spamming POS in Detorid and Scalding Pass in order to take those areas over, in addition to sieging AAA POS with xxdeath, etc at the time this started. A war with IRC wouldn't be in
anyones interest, unless they are called IRC or ED.
Here...you can
see what has been going on:
http://go-dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/verite/20090205.png BoB is destroyed. Note the positions of GS, AAA, RA, UNL, IRC, etc.
http://dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/Verite/influence.png Now.
Tell me how an RA attack on IRC/ED in Etherium Reach would be beneficial to RA, GoonSwarm, etc, or anyone except IRC/ED (and AAA/Kenny/etc).
Oh yeah, I am sure all those alliance all on their own decided to all attack ER at the same exact time without any input from their masters in GS.
RA may not dance to the GS tune as much as GS would like, but there is no doubt plenty of the other alliances do.
What is funny is that GS has become the BoB of Eve - the giant alliance that everyone loves to hate, but most people are too afraid to stand up to. And I include IRC in that - its not like before GS/RA betrayed them they were looking to kick goon ass - they were kissing it just like everyone else.
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on June 04, 2009, 03:02:53 PM
The options seem to be A) GoonSwarm wanted to get (their pet) RA involved in a two front war and essentially kill off UNL, B) Red Alliance leadership is incredibly stupid, C) IRC/ED attacked Red Alliance and it didn't go as planned.
You forget option D, which Mittani stated was the case:
GS thought that IRC would fold almost immediately with their corp theft, so it made perfect sense to give their pets something to do and some space to grab.
Sadly, IRC was not quite as terrible as they are made out to be, and it didn't quite work out that way, so GS called in more and more pets to attack, and even that has largely failed.
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I'm going with option C, since the other two don't make any sense. RA isn't a GS pet, and we don't want them or UNL screwed over, and RA leadership isn't incredibly stupid.
Of course not, only OTHER alliances are led by morons, of course. Which must be why they just folded in weeks as predicted, cause they were so stupid. Oh wait...
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They were spamming POS in Detorid and Scalding Pass in order to take those areas over, in addition to sieging AAA POS with xxdeath, etc at the time this started. A war with IRC wouldn't be in anyones interest, unless they are called IRC or ED.
Taking space is always in your interests, especially from terrible, idiotic leadership who your spied have told you is going to "failure cascade" at any moment.
What makes no sense is the argument that GS leadership stole a bunch of stuff from IRC, then offered to give it back in return for peace, then promptly broke that promise, all because they did NOT want a fight with IRC/ED.
THAT makes no sense, and is the singular fact that makes you story so silly.
Quote from: besuchov on June 04, 2009, 02:57:51 PM
I wouldnt be overly surprised if it went something like this:
Goons informing RA that their role in the Great War(tm) is to open a secon front against AAA
RA deciding that getting their gangs wiped out by AAA isnt so fun after all and decides to go for some roams in IRC space instead.
IRC gets pissed (or just decides this is a convenient excuse to get more space) and starts a full scale invasion of RA systems
Seems possible - before GS made it clear that they would drop the hammer on IRC for daring to resist RA, IRC leadership seemed to be ok with the idea of a little war with RA. We had clear instructions, however, to keep the war to roaming gangs, and not escalate to POS warfare. RA had other ideas though.
I am not convinced that GS was not behind all this though - RA would never jump without permission. It could be the case that it took GS by surprise as well though.
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Goons notices and goes, "wtf RA you are not fighting AAA like you said, whats up?"
RA plays innocent and says that they are under attack. Goons do what they can to end the war using some metagaming tools or other(spies, bluffing or whatever) but when IRC tries to back out it turns out that RA wasnt really intressted in leaving this war after all...
This is the part where MBM story really breaks down. The idea that the goons offer was a bluff is so silly it isn't even funny. Since TITTS had posession of the gear, that somehow means that GS wasn't calling the shots? Puh-leaze, that is so transparent it isn't even funny, and then of course TITTS promptly joins a GS alliance.
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I dont think the goons wanted this war, its not really in their intresst. But i do think there are various entities in the anti-ken alliance that would much rather have their pew-pew closer to home, against smaller foes and for more space for themselves, and does their best to find an excuse to do so.
Seems plausible - of course, if you are GS and you ahve a spy at the director level of IRC and he is telling you IRC is about to fall apart and he can snatch their cap fleet...
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Personally i was quite impressed to see IRC hold togeather and fight back even when they started to loose space to majesta, everyone expected them to fall apart (perhaps even they did) and looking back at the fate of other alliances in similar situations by conventional logic they should have. After holding out til Solar Fleets intervention removed majesta from the equation it looks like there is a very intressting fight to be had in this area of space :)
The problem, as I see it (and I am nobody in IRC, so take this with a HUGE grain of salt) is that I don't know what the end game can be.
Lets take a best case scenario - IRC/ED takes back the loop, then starts making real progress against RA and Friends. Maybe even starts hitting Insmother. Then what? We all know GS won't stand for that...will they take a break long enough from their war to come smack IRC down?
I honestly do not know.
It's funny, my Nazi analogy notwithstanding, GS and their RA pets have made the exact same error - underestimate their enemies, and think they can just "knock off" a minor target real quick before they move on to the main course.
Apparently IRC/ED are not really Greece though.
I think the anaology ends there though - Eve really needs some kind of mechanism to make larger alliances less efficient to manage, but no such mechanism exists. So even though GS has kind of screwed this up, it is really a side show - their moon advantage is so huge they can afford to fight multi-front wars, and there really isn't much of a negative feedback mechanism to stop them, at least as far as the game is concerned.
I am curious (and people wondered this about BoB before GS "beat" them by the disband trick) if CCP would take active measures to keep someone from dominating the game too much.
Quote from: Berkut on June 04, 2009, 03:11:46 PM
Oh yeah, I am sure all those alliance all on their own decided to all attack ER at the same exact time without any input from their masters in GS.
Yes indeed. Allies coordinating to kick someone's ass is totally unheard of without them all being pets.
QuoteRA may not dance to the GS tune as much as GS would like, but there is no doubt plenty of the other alliances do.
Like which ones? I would like some examples of GoonSwarm pets that aren't absurd. Pandemic Legion? They reset GS every chance they get. TCF? They disappear for weeks at a time doing their own thing. The Northern Coalition? They've also already left to go do their own thing just during this invasion. They did come back though. How about KIA then? No, we actually pay them, IIRC. Who are these pets that all dance to the GoonSwarm tune?
QuoteWhat is funny is that GS has become the BoB of Eve - the giant alliance that everyone loves to hate, but most people are too afraid to stand up to. And I include IRC in that - its not like before GS/RA betrayed them they were looking to kick goon ass - they were kissing it just like everyone else.
Did GoonSwarm recently become a large, hated alliance? Is this a new development? Oh wait...it's not.
QuoteYou forget option D, which Mittani stated was the case:
GS thought that IRC would fold almost immediately with their corp theft, so it made perfect sense to give their pets something to do and some space to grab.
Sadly, IRC was not quite as terrible as they are made out to be, and it didn't quite work out that way, so GS called in more and more pets to attack, and even that has largely
Our "pets," as described by you, were
already doing something and were
already POS spamming new space for themselves. This is not a difficult concept to grasp. Seriously.
QuoteOf course not, only OTHER alliances are led by morons, of course. Which must be why they just folded in weeks as predicted, cause they were so stupid. Oh wait...
Yeah, it has nothing to do with the RA leadership never having acted like retards or morons or anything.
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Taking space is always in your interests, especially from terrible, idiotic leadership who your spied have told you is going to "failure cascade" at any moment.
What makes no sense is the argument that GS leadership stole a bunch of stuff from IRC, then offered to give it back in return for peace, then promptly broke that promise, all because they did NOT want a fight with IRC/ED.
THAT makes no sense, and is the singular fact that makes you story so silly.
See above. I even provided pictures for you since you can't seem to understand the text. The "pets" were already involved in taking space that isn't called Etherium Reach. Your dumbshit leadership attacked said "pets," got conned by Mittani, totally panicked and started fighting amongst themselves and managed to get that sent to GF.com, and were only recently "saved" by the intervention of what I suppose are also GS pets (someone should let SOLAR know they're not doing what we say).
QuoteIt's funny, my Nazi analogy notwithstanding, GS and their RA pets have made the exact same error - underestimate their enemies, and think they can just "knock off" a minor target real quick before they move on to the main course.
Apparently IRC/ED are not really Greece though.
I think the anaology ends there though - Eve really needs some kind of mechanism to make larger alliances less efficient to manage, but no such mechanism exists. So even though GS has kind of screwed this up, it is really a side show - their moon advantage is so huge they can afford to fight multi-front wars, and there really isn't much of a negative feedback mechanism to stop them, at least as far as the game is concerned.
I am curious (and people wondered this about BoB before GS "beat" them by the disband trick) if CCP would take active measures to keep someone from dominating the game too much.
:lmfao: My goodness. You really have no idea what's been going on, do you? That certainly does explain everything you've been saying.
Edit: Anyway: Ivan, if you see this in this mess of a "conversation," I sent you some isk for helping with the Brutix. If it's not enough, let me know. Thanks again. :cheers:
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fcommons%2F4%2F41%2FVladimir_Putin_in_Iran_16-17_October_2007-1.jpg&hash=c405acad37b2657e060531af50466ed353d8b65f)
Red Alliance leadership consults with their Goonswarm masters.
I honestly dont think the goons have that much control over their allies, even less control than they themselves might think. The fact that they havent been able to put a stop to this war and direct RA et al's attention towards the fight against AAA/Atlas/Agression is more a sign of weakness than a sign that the goons are pulling all the strings.
They are the ones who directed "et al" to attack IRC/ED - the only way they can get out of it now is to end the war en masse, not piecemeal.
Which would not surprise me, although I wonder if IRC HC would go for it - at this point, everyone knows that GS is going to come curbstomp IRC at some point for having he audacity to not roll over when they were supposed to and GS made the public prediction that they would. So why end the war now, when we can hopefully make it so that GS never gets the freedom to do so?
I think IRC has painted themselves into something of corner - the only thing that is going to save them is for GS to stay too busy to give any appreciable portion of their attention to ER.
Quote from: besuchov on June 04, 2009, 04:15:57 PM
I honestly dont think the goons have that much control over their allies, even less control than they themselves might think.
GoonSwarm has little to no control over our allies. The reason they attack morons like IRC and ED when they invade RA space is *because* they're allies. This case seems to be a little weird though, since IRC and ED did it while they were still blue, and initially tried to say GS actually gave consent to the attack.
I'm not kidding:
Quote from: lol[VnV] Pantheras > We were given the ok to do this a while back but things change so quickly. We were also given the ok from Goons but look now we are turned red. Only time will tell what the rest of them will do. Right now Xdeath has -A- and Atlas to deal with same with Goons. Then you throw in Kenny and what they do. We just pull together and fight. What happens later we will deal with when it happens.
:lol: C'mon. No, but now RA attacked IRC. Yeah. That's it. GoonSwarm gave IRC permission to....be attacked by RA. Heh.
I mean...just glancing through the ED killboard around that time, this seems to be the first RA kill on their board from this current "thing": http://kb.etherealdawn.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=4354 An RA tower. In Insmother, 21 March at 20:59. When was that tower put into reinforced? Or was it unfueled and able to be killed immediately (that would be a curious thing for RA to do in the middle of a POS spamming attack).
A half hour later, RA's first killmail of this "event" against ED shows up on the board there: http://kb.etherealdawn.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=30195 Etherium Reach, 21 March, 21:28.
I guess Red Alliance limited their kills and losses to only IRC members in the engagements that led up to IRC/ED attacking and destroying that POS with carriers and battleships? Hm. It's possible. I'm seeing IRC lossmails in C-J6 on the 19th (http://irc.eve-kill.net/?a=losses&w=12&y=2009&page=10). Let's see.....oh look...there are some RA lossmails from C-J6 on the 19th as well (http://irc.eve-kill.net/?a=kills&w=12&y=2009&page=3). Looks like there was some fighting going on there on March 19, but there isn't anything between RA and IRC in the days before that. Interesting.
Hey! C-J6! That's RA territory, isn't it Berk? RA Prime, right? Heh. Yeah, it is. There's not even a date for when Sov last changed in that system, it's been so long: http://evemaps.dotlan.net/system/C-J6MT
QuoteThe fact that they havent been able to put a stop to this war and direct RA et al's attention towards the fight against AAA/Atlas/Agression is more a sign of weakness than a sign that the goons are pulling all the strings.
RA, etc (including xxDeath, who aren't doing anything against IRC, I don't think) are also fighting that whole group of different colors between GS space and their space. That's the whole point. They're fighting against AAA/SE/ROL/C0VEN/Atlas/etc (a huge and very competent group) on their southwestern borders, and now IRC/ED on their northeastern borders. The idea that they would just randomly up and start attacking IRC in order to put themselves in this position is utterly retarded.
As a matter of fact, on the day IRC attacked, and they did attack, XDeath and RA had put a bunch of AAA towers (in 46dp in case you're wondering) into reinforced. They weren't able to go back and destroy them, because RA had to go back to fight these former blue toolbags from Etherium Reach, and XDeath didn't have the numbers. AAA was then able to go from "defending" that side of their space (repping POS and keeping RA/Death caps from reinforcing their towers, in addition to dropping new towers in former Goon space), to helping KenZoku, etc, put 1,200+ people into 49- against GS and allies. Fantastic, no? And Berkut wonders why GoonSwarm and RA would trust them not to attack again.
Quote from: Alcibiades on June 04, 2009, 12:04:58 PM
On a totally unrelated note....leaving the IDA....have to do something...haven't had a reason to log in... :hide:
Says the guy that hadn't logged on in over week...something about being in a hospital.
Read the other thread.
Seedy, did you ever figure out or find a workaround for that 'Socket is closed' bullshit error? That's an Alci style ragequit just waiting to happen ( :P).
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on June 08, 2009, 12:56:05 PM
Seedy, did you ever figure out or find a workaround for that 'Socket is closed' bullshit error? That's an Alci style ragequit just waiting to happen ( :P).
Stopped happening to me.
Heh. Titans are so stupid right now.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8mWyGgFpII
The (solo) explosion at ~1:14 is this:
https://www.pandemic-legion.com/killboard/view_kill.php?id=196492
I guess they'll eventually try to DD a POS next, now that they've hit the point where they can nuke capitals (carriers, at least...the dreads either survived in structure or warped away so they wouldn't be lost). That was the intro of a new GS titan as well, it looks like.
It'll also be really funny when we try to hotdrop a capital fleet with only titans, and lose all of them. :lol:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpkNOXNnS9I&fmt=18 Another video. Annoying TS noise, but no video stuttering outside of the usual Eve lag. The Ragnorak doomsday is pretty cool.
Quote from: CDMStopped happening to me.
When I posted that, it was doing it about 10-15 seconds after I logged on every time I tried. Now...it doesn't anymore. Don't know what the deal was.
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on June 17, 2009, 01:55:57 AMWhen I posted that, it was doing it about 10-15 seconds after I logged on every time I tried. Now...it doesn't anymore. Don't know what the deal was.
Considering it started with the prior big content patch, and ended with the latest big content patch, I suspect the deal was those idiots at CCP.
Wow, I guess everyone saw it coming, but it is still shocking to see.
Kenzoku/BoB is pulling out of 0.0. The great war is over, for the moment, and GS has won.
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1099625
I think this could very well mean that IRC/ED are fooked.
In other news, PL just made a rather astounding kill:
https://www.pandemic-legion.com/killboard/view_kill.php?id=196492
Can you explain what's astounding about that?
Quote from: Grey Fox on June 17, 2009, 09:39:03 AM
Can you explain what's astounding about that?
There are 16 Titans on that killmail.
Quote from: BerkutConsidering it started with the prior big content patch, and ended with the latest big content patch, I suspect the deal was those idiots at CCP.
That's probably it. I haven't been keeping track of patches or anything, but yeah CCP breaking something isn't out of the ordinary. :P
Quote from: Berkut on June 17, 2009, 09:13:49 AM
Wow, I guess everyone saw it coming, but it is still shocking to see.
Kenzoku/BoB is pulling out of 0.0. The great war is over, for the moment, and GS has won.
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1099625
I think this could very well mean that IRC/ED are fooked.
Leaving Querious and Delve doesn't mean they're leaving 0.0. They can always go live with one of their allies, unless, of course, their allies tell them to piss off.
QuoteThere are 16 Titans on that killmail.
Interestingly enough, there are two videos and that killmail link in a certain previous post. ;) 27 titans. The carrier just didn't survive the rest of them DDing. They also had some test dreads there that didn't quite die.
So MbM, what is GS doing next? Will they really reset like they said?
Quote from: Berkut on June 17, 2009, 10:09:04 AM
So MbM, what is GS doing next? Will they really reset like they said?
Well there are still towers floating about in various places, and 49- hasn't officially fallen yet (edit: they also have sov in some random nonstation systems), but after that stuff....eh....setting up the "Foreign Legion," sov 4ing everything in Delve, Querious, and Period Basis, dropping eggs everywhere, etcetcetc. As far as resets go, I have no idea, aside from the inevitable PL reset.
Edit: Jihadswarm is also becoming much bigger.
Edit2: :lol: Check out the time on this one: http://killboard.goonfleet.com/km/375886
Quote from: Berkut on June 17, 2009, 09:13:49 AM
I think this could very well mean that IRC/ED are fooked.
:nelson:
Details are sketchy right now, but initial indicators are that RA is breaking up.
I don't think IRC/ED is ready to take much credit for that, but if it does happen it will at least be in part due to us not collapsing on schedule. Failure cascade what?
Quote from: Berkut on June 18, 2009, 01:04:46 PM
Details are sketchy right now, but initial indicators are that RA is breaking up.
Again? Christ...I wonder what the next spinoff will be called, and how they'll act.
The rest is silly. The idea that RA would break up because IRC isn't losing fast enough, instead of the constant internal drama, actual successful invasions from other directions, etc, makes no sense. If anything from that side of the war, it has to do with Solar helping you so they have some allies against the NC, and some RA probably not wanting to shoot at Solar, with maybe others who do because Solar has now been seen in gangs with Kenny, Atlas, etc. Oh yeah, you guys are getting lumped in with Kenny and Co, btw. :)
Anyway...last time they broke up, RoL popped into existence. Before that was Solar, XiX, AAA, UNL, etcetcetc. What's weird is quite a few of the directors who made RA the Goonswarm "pets," as you would say, are the people in charge of those other alliances.
Of course it makes sense - I think I rather clearly stated that we cannot take too much credit for it, but certainly us making them continue to fight in the Loop has *something* to do with this result. Perhaps it would have happened anyway, I don't know, but I don't think it is silly to suggest that their inability to take out IRC/ED with a huge amount of help they had might have impacted the outcome in some way.
Granted, the real hits came from Atlas et al, hence my comment about not taking too much credit.
Quote from: Berkut on June 18, 2009, 01:47:01 PM
Of course it makes sense - I think I rather clearly stated that we cannot take too much credit for it, but certainly us making them continue to fight in the Loop has *something* to do with this result. Perhaps it would have happened anyway, I don't know, but I don't think it is silly to suggest that their inability to take out IRC/ED with a huge amount of help they had might have impacted the outcome in some way.
Granted, the real hits came from Atlas et al, hence my comment about not taking too much credit.
:lol: The only credit you can take for it is starting the shit and then getting saved by Solar. I mean...awesome....I guess?
Edit: Speaking of former RA, Rebellion and UNL (in some form or another) are apparently moving to Delve/Querious.
OK, whatever MbM.
Quote from: Berkut on June 18, 2009, 02:07:48 PM
OK, whatever MbM.
And now with real info: Some alt of a former AAA type (now CEO of something called ERROR) suddenly has control of the RuSH corp. Kind of a smaller scale Haargoth situation, it seems. Sorry Berk. You guys had even less to do with it than even I thought. :(
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on June 18, 2009, 02:10:46 PM
Quote from: Berkut on June 18, 2009, 02:07:48 PM
OK, whatever MbM.
And now with real info: Some alt of a former AAA type (now CEO of something called ERROR) suddenly has control of the RuSH corp. Kind of a smaller scale Haargoth situation, it seems. Sorry Berk. You guys had even less to do with it than even I thought. :(
Uh huh. Nothing to do with it.
Quote from: Berkut on June 18, 2009, 02:19:15 PM
Uh huh. Nothing to do with it.
Yeah. Unless you have some new information you'd like to share? :)
Edit: Maybe it was an IRC or ED spy who did it?
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on June 18, 2009, 02:26:32 PM
Quote from: Berkut on June 18, 2009, 02:19:15 PM
Uh huh. Nothing to do with it.
Yeah. Unless you have some new information you'd like to share? :)
I am quite confident that there is no information possible that would matter.
Quote from: Berkut on June 18, 2009, 02:31:16 PM
I am quite confident that there is no information possible that would matter.
Really? Why's that? So far it looks like an ERROR spy took over RuSH corp and placed a Daira Lir alt in charge. What would IRC have to do with that?
I mean...I see your IRC people shittalking on CAOD, so...what did IRC do? If you guys did it, good job. Seriously. But why did you give it to an ERROR alt?
Sorry, not interested in turning Languish into your personal version of CAOD. Go troll there.
Quote from: Berkut on June 18, 2009, 02:43:09 PM
Sorry, not interested in turning Languish into your personal version of CAOD. Go troll there.
:huh: So.....uh.....does that mean you're not going to answer my question about whether or not IRC had anything to do with the spy (maybe not a spy even) taking over RuSH and apparently handing it over to Daira Lir/Red Mouse? You're just going to call it trolling and run away or something? I guess that's better than you calling me a Nazi or whatever bullshit again.
Edit some time later: Red Alliance has apparently been...er...retaken....and the ERROR corps kicked out. Red Mouse is still in charge of RuSH though, at least for the moment. It looks like the original "owners," for now, are going to get to keep the name.
The death of the last Kenny/BoB tower in their last station system in the game:
http://www.viddler.com/explore/Trzzbk/videos/1/
This also illustrates how boring POS shooting is.
My new miner alt, still under 1.6 million, is doing 5,000 sp per hour :D
Quote from: Alcibiades on June 21, 2009, 01:50:51 AM
My new miner alt, still under 1.6 million, is doing 5,000 sp per hour :D
Alci, you know that thunderdome I was telling you about with the MS as the prize for the winner? It got smartbombed, and holy shit he did a really good job of it:
https://www.pandemic-legion.com/killboard/view_pilot.php?id=Tom%20Honk&start_ship=0&end_ship=100000&type=kills&start=0
~400 killmails. :lol:
Two dudes with deadspace fitted faction frigates teamed up and ended up winning the thing, IIRC. I think they're both cap pilots already as well. Kinda lame, but...eh....
He used a geddon? :huh:
Quote from: Alcibiades on June 21, 2009, 02:22:11 PM
He used a geddon? :huh:
Cheapest battleship with 8 highs (the Typhoon is the next in line, IIRC, then you get into tier 2 ships).
I thought it was frigate only you were saying..
Quote from: Alcibiades on June 21, 2009, 08:51:19 PM
I thought it was frigate only you were saying..
I have a feeling that guy was not an official participant. :P
Oh yeah, sorry lol.... tired not reading correctly. :blush:
Yeah, the one with the mothership as a prize was limited to frigates only. This guy just happened to be able to get in there and nuke 400 ships and pods before he got taken out.
After this one was over, there was a second thunderdome where everyone was invited to bring whatever ship they wanted, as long as they were prepared to lose it (except the titans that were constantly DDing them, and the various other caps that were there, of course). It was, of course, mostly frigates since they're cheap/free, but some people showed up with other things. It was all pretty popular. When our little squad FC training op (we all died horribly/hilariously to a smaller AAA gang) passed through NOL something like 6 hours after the first one started, there were still 350 people in local, including at least one titan, who was warping around and laughing at them when they were all scattering when he showed up on grid. Good stuff.
Edit: There ended up being 4 winners. 2 GF guys in a couple of Succubus frigates who were working together, and 2 RZR dudes in 4 remote repping Punishers ( :lol:). They weren't able to kill each other/bribe any teammates to switch sides, so they just split the isk equivalent of a MS.
Goons are only marginally more assinine than IRC.
BoB/Kenzoku forum archives (not including the director sections) from 2005 - the end of the war:
http://sesfanqulahmemorial.com/bob/index.html
Some pages in individual threads were apparently missed, but just click on the next page, etc.
Edit:
Quote from: SirMolle, 7/27/2006If you dont want in on it, thats all good, but, as for Evolution.... were doing it.
As of now, GOONs will die. totally and utterly. Few people piss me off. VERY few. Not even GNW pissed me off.
http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingamebo...hreadID=369940
http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingamebo...hreadID=370578
http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingamebo...hreadID=370606
Im pissed off.
.
http://sesfanqulahmemorial.com/bob/showthreade574.html?t=21121
What did you guys do in July of '06?
Quote from: Grey Fox on June 24, 2009, 10:50:16 AM
What did you guys do in July of '06?
It was apparently regarding a signature on the GF.com forums. Back before goonfleet was formed, some Eve Online hero type named Smoske had gotten really high/drunk/something, jumped on his moped/motorcycle/something of that nature, and managed to kill himself by running into a truck on the autobahn.
Two guys went to whichever system this Smoske dudes corp tended to hang out with two ships named "Smoske" and "Truck," or something very similar, and sat outside of the station running into each other saying "beep beep I'm a truck," etc.
A guy on the GF.com forums, Tetsujin, had an ASCII-ish type signature that sorta...commemorated...this thing, and when he started a thread on CAOD about something (not Smoske), someone there got all offended by his signature on GF.com. Someone linked the sig on GF.com earlier this week...I'll see if I can find it, and if so, I'll post it here.
Edit: Here's the thread he started on CAOD: http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=369940 Post 48 on page 2 is where the outrage starts.
Edit2: The sig:
QuoteYou see, GoonFleet is a lot like a truck in that BEEP BEEP (https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg7.imageshack.us%2Fimg7%2F5474%2Fgfbandwagon0423548.gif&hash=a5c5e6711b1d3f9341b17ec6c1420b0691418d10) >-|O <--smoske
That's it. That's what started all this bullshit. :lol: That sig right there is why Molle ordered BoB to invade Syndicate and camp GoonFleet into the station (or at least it's what he used as his excuse).
:lol:
You gotta love the goons.
Quote from: Grey Fox on June 24, 2009, 11:20:55 AM
:lol:
You gotta love the goons.
No, actually you don't.
It was a pretty tasteless sig, but the guy backed off right away and apologized, so what can you do?
I guess Goonswarm is pissed off at IRC and the cascade failure of their allies Red Alliance, who they swore to help.
GS wardecced IRC. The funny thing is the IRC forums, everyone is all gung ho to take them on. :lmfao:
Not sure who they are kidding - GS is perfectly happy paying for ships for their members to gank people they are NOT at war with, and have been doing so for a very long time. I do not see this going well for IRC at all. We ahve too many pilots willing to stumble around in Ittys.
I am staying out of Empire for the duration, I think. Which is fine, still lots of work to be done cleaning up the remnants of RA.
Quote from: Berkut on June 25, 2009, 02:36:19 PM
I guess Goonswarm is pissed off at IRC and the cascade failure of their allies Red Alliance, who they swore to help.
GS wardecced IRC. The funny thing is the IRC forums, everyone is all gung ho to take them on. :lmfao:
Not sure who they are kidding - GS is perfectly happy paying for ships for their members to gank people they are NOT at war with, and have been doing so for a very long time. I do not see this going well for IRC at all. We ahve too many pilots willing to stumble around in Ittys.
I am staying out of Empire for the duration, I think. Which is fine, still lots of work to be done cleaning up the remnants of RA.
:lol: The wardec is for attacking you in Empire without CONCORD interference, not as some silly sort of "we're going to fight you now" thing. You don't need that in 0.0, and we'd already started attacking your people, although in
very limited engagements, in Etherium Reach before this.
You're not blue. We've essentially been at war since that happened. Hell...we just recently started wardeccing Kenny, etc.
Edit: GoonSwarm doesn't buy people ships, btw (except frigates).
Edit2: Blow up DBRB's titan please. Thanks in advance.
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on June 25, 2009, 03:41:25 PM
Quote from: Berkut on June 25, 2009, 02:36:19 PM
I guess Goonswarm is pissed off at IRC and the cascade failure of their allies Red Alliance, who they swore to help.
GS wardecced IRC. The funny thing is the IRC forums, everyone is all gung ho to take them on. :lmfao:
Not sure who they are kidding - GS is perfectly happy paying for ships for their members to gank people they are NOT at war with, and have been doing so for a very long time. I do not see this going well for IRC at all. We ahve too many pilots willing to stumble around in Ittys.
I am staying out of Empire for the duration, I think. Which is fine, still lots of work to be done cleaning up the remnants of RA.
:lol: The wardec is for attacking you in Empire without CONCORD interference, not as some silly sort of "we're going to fight you now" thing.
Did I say it was some sort of silly "we are going to fight you now" sort of thing?
Quote from: Berkut on June 25, 2009, 05:07:15 PM
Did I say it was some sort of silly "we are going to fight you now" sort of thing?
Your IRC people obviously think it is.
Anyway...you have fun in Insmother with your new Atlas, Kenny, and Barbie type friends. :lol:
Edit: Oh Molle/Shrike/Messiah Killeon would probably get all pissed and reset IRC if you call any of his people Nazis like you kinda did with me, so don't do that with them.
Yeah, I will be sure to keep that in mind.
MbM, I like talking about Eve in here, so I am going to say this nicely:
If you cannot respond to my posts with some civility and reason, then don't respond at all. We have an entire other forum where you can pick fights and bitch and troll, take it there.
Quote from: Berkut on June 25, 2009, 05:31:16 PM
Yeah, I will be sure to keep that in mind.
Then again, if they do reset you, you can always kill Shrike's 5th titan, and when combined with the upcoming (I have faith) kill of DBRB's, well....that would just be a beautiful thing.
Edit2: Nevermind. It's just not worth the effort when someone who was previously calling me a Nazi is now posting stupid shit like that.
GS versus IRC.
I haven't been this torn on who to root for since Stalingrad.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 25, 2009, 05:48:44 PM
GS versus IRC.
I haven't been this torn on who to root for since Stalingrad.
Root for mutual implosion, with SMASH reforming and taking all the space in the South/Drone Regions/Delve/etc for themselves. Either that, or some group like Noob Mercs coming in and kicking the shit out of everyone involved.
Really though, all this is is a continuation of the GS vs. BoB thing. Hating both sides is pretty easy.
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on June 25, 2009, 05:51:05 PM
Really though, all this is is a continuation of the GS vs. BoB thing. Hating both sides is pretty easy.
I agree.
Isnt it time ppl got over the whole bob thing, i mean they lost their space and their stations and towards the end even their allies got bored with the whole thing and started pursuing their own agendas instead.
Am i the only one who gets a bit tired of reading posts about how much bob sucks, or reading yet another forumdump or hearing that something molle said in a chat in 2007 is really big news?
edit: removed stray swedish word :P
That "cascade fail" that the Goonies predicted IRC would go through when they set all their pets on us way back before RA fell apart?
It is starting now.
Quote from: Berkut on July 05, 2009, 09:35:43 AM
That "cascade fail" that the Goonies predicted IRC would go through when they set all their pets on us way back before RA fell apart?
It is starting now.
:yeah:
Quote from: CountDeMoney on July 05, 2009, 03:28:57 PM
Quote from: Berkut on July 05, 2009, 09:35:43 AM
That "cascade fail" that the Goonies predicted IRC would go through when they set all their pets on us way back before RA fell apart?
It is starting now.
:yeah:
:rolleyes:
Quote from: Berkut on July 05, 2009, 06:28:44 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on July 05, 2009, 03:28:57 PM
Quote from: Berkut on July 05, 2009, 09:35:43 AM
That "cascade fail" that the Goonies predicted IRC would go through when they set all their pets on us way back before RA fell apart?
It is starting now.
:yeah:
:rolleyes:
:nelson
Kicking myself.
Why Eve is the best PvP in MMO gaming:
So the IRC home system is camped most of the time these days. Last night, we were trying to get a HD fleet going, but not having much luck. I was sitting in the shields of a safe POS waiting around in my Zealot, and mightily bored.
THe FC mentioned that there was a frigate and dictor on one of the gates alone, with the main Goon camp fleet at the Diz station - could I fly into the gate at 0, kill the dictor and frigate, then get back to the Pos before the station fleet responded?
Well, that is a good question. I guess there is only one way to find out, right?
Answer: No, I cannot. Killed the two ships quickly, but then fumbled the align and warp back, and got gang-raped. Right as I was about to enter warp, literally pizels away from hitting speed, a bubble goes up and I am trapped. I manage to MW out of the bubble, but am pointed and demolished by a dozen Goons.
Here is the real kicker: I warped to ZERO on the gate! I could have just jumped through the damn thing and escaped that way!
Talk about facepalm.
Everytime I lose a ship in Eve, I think of at least 1 or two things I could have done to avoid it, but never at the time it is happening. I think I just suck at the game.
Quote from: Berkut on July 08, 2009, 09:16:55 AM
Here is the real kicker: I warped to ZERO on the gate! I could have just jumped through the damn thing and escaped that way!
After you shot the frigate and dictor, you'd have to wait out the aggression timer before you could jump through.
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on July 08, 2009, 10:22:23 AM
Quote from: Berkut on July 08, 2009, 09:16:55 AM
Here is the real kicker: I warped to ZERO on the gate! I could have just jumped through the damn thing and escaped that way!
After you shot the frigate and dictor, you'd have to wait out the aggression timer before you could jump through.
Oh, well then I feel better. I was doomed once I finger-flubbed the warp back.
Quote from: Berkut on July 08, 2009, 10:26:18 AM
Oh, well then I feel better. I was doomed once I finger-flubbed the warp back.
Yep. Sounds like you came really close to a nice drive by though.
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on July 08, 2009, 10:33:49 AM
Quote from: Berkut on July 08, 2009, 10:26:18 AM
Oh, well then I feel better. I was doomed once I finger-flubbed the warp back.
Yep. Sounds like you came really close to a nice drive by though.
I was too keyed up and excited. I am mostly involved in fleet camping and sniping, the small scale stuff I am not comfortable enough with to stay calm.
I sure hope wherever we end up has more small scale PvP, and less POS warfare. POS warfare sucks.
Quote from: Berkut on July 08, 2009, 10:38:08 AM
POS warfare sucks.
This can't be said enough. Supposedly there's a change coming with the winter expansion though, thank god.
Regime change in GoonSwarm. Zapawork came back from vacation and decided that being the leader of a bunch of retards wasn't any fun.
So he resigned and made Kartoon, founder and leader of JihadSwarm, the CEO. Good times.
A friend had an extra Steam code, so I'm going through the tutorials. Hod, I'm useless. I've gone through the business tutorials and am now doing the exploration tutorials.
Finally got the hang of probing, approach the gate . . . fuck, forgot to put the pass for jump gate from the station storage into my cargo hold, so let's retry this . . .
And I had to re-start a few tutorials because of this. :P
Hah nice, hope you enjoy the game. If you ever want to try out low sec(urity) space and blowing people up let me know, get you out here and try. I've failed in trying to get CDM out here. :glare:
:lol:
That corp wasn't my gig, man. I like my missions and mining. Nice, quiet, productive.
Been messing around with DUST 514, too. I may write a review of the beta in the near future, it's got some pluses and minuses to it.
Quote from: Alcibiades on February 03, 2013, 01:46:15 PM
Hah nice, hope you enjoy the game. If you ever want to try out low sec(urity) space and blowing people up let me know, get you out here and try. I've failed in trying to get CDM out here. :glare:
I'm less for blowing stuff up, more for trading and possibly manufacturing. ;)
I do look at moonlighting as explorer, though.
Alright alright....
I know you were scared seedy it's all good. ;)
And I'd be interested in reading the review, i picked it up twice back in May but haven't bothered turning it on since, they probably even wiped my character by now. :hmm:
So for now I'm trading on Dodixie (less hectic than Jita, so I don't have to constantly monitor stuff) while levelling up exploration skills and such and doing some mining/exploration to get the hang of things. And I'm slowly getting the hang of drones. Once my archaeology/hacking skills have grown I might actually manage to make some bucks off it. :P
Quote from: Alcibiades on February 03, 2013, 05:42:01 PM
I know you were scared seedy it's all good. ;)
And I'd be interested in reading the review, i picked it up twice back in May but haven't bothered turning it on since, they probably even wiped my character by now. :hmm:
:P Goddamned right I was. Stuff that gets blown up costs money.
I'm still tinkering with it, but yeah, I think I'll pop down some thoughts later today or Tuesday.
So I've been mostly station trading, mining and slapping the occasional pirate. So far I like it; feels a lot like X3 in an MMO environment.
But the player characters . . . holy uncanny valley!
Exploration is good, you can make a ton of money doing exploration in lowsec and nullsec.
Even in highsec you can make decent money if you find the right site. I'm not that great at probing :(
I'm getting the hang of probing, but I need to skill up to get something out of it and cutting down the time to do so (working on getting hacking/archaeology). I found an unstable wormhole in hi-sec, but reading up on wormholes, I think with my T1 frigate I'll stay clear for now. :lol:
So for the time being it's mining those rocks. And training. And trading.
Oh, and i just discovered the certification system. Rather useful to find your way through the jungle of skills, and to see which skills compliment each other.
My immediate plan is to deck out a Tristan with two guns (or gun + missile?), probes; plus analyzer, hacking module and salvager and go exploring hi-sec for a bit.
I would like to try manufacturing, but the logistics involved for some of the high end products (find cheap materials, assemble them in one place etc.) is a bit daunting if you're not in a corp. :lol:
Though I currently have ca. 2M tied up in orders. Is it me, or is station trading a far too easy way to make money if you somewhat know what you're doing (go for high turnover commodities, try to find spreads of at least 20%, better 50% between selling/buying)?
The certification system is alright, not perfect, but it gets the job done.
Do you have Evemon (http://evemon.battleclinic.com/ (http://evemon.battleclinic.com/))? Great program for you to make plans and oversee all the possible skills to train and their affect on different items and ships. Eve Fitting Tools is also great, shows you the effects of putting items on your ship, what can fit, and what skills you need before you can use them.
Huge battle in lowsec last weekend involving almost 3,000 people. Pretty neat video of the clusterfuck:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=yTQHv0FrgrE#!
Quote from: CountDeMoney on February 04, 2013, 05:55:25 AM
I'm still tinkering with it, but yeah, I think I'll pop down some thoughts later today or Tuesday.
Whelp, so much for that for the moment. Plasma TV took a dump yesterday, so there'll be no PlayStationing for a bit. Looks like the power supply.
Quote from: Alcibiades on February 05, 2013, 01:12:31 PM
The certification system is alright, not perfect, but it gets the job done.
Do you have Evemon (http://evemon.battleclinic.com/ (http://evemon.battleclinic.com/))? Great program for you to make plans and oversee all the possible skills to train and their affect on different items and ships. Eve Fitting Tools is also great, shows you the effects of putting items on your ship, what can fit, and what skills you need before you can use them.
Yeah, I've seen them and toyed with them, but I need to take a closer look this weekend.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on February 05, 2013, 09:36:29 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on February 04, 2013, 05:55:25 AM
I'm still tinkering with it, but yeah, I think I'll pop down some thoughts later today or Tuesday.
Whelp, so much for that for the moment. Plasma TV took a dump yesterday, so there'll be no PlayStationing for a bit. Looks like the power supply.
Yikes!
Ive reactivated my account recently. Playing rather casaully since I dont really have the time, some bloodraider missions and the occasional fleet.
Is there still a langish channel?
Yes, it's called 'languish' :P
Unfortunately I'm usually the only one in it. Don't think anyone else is really active, and im logged in most the day but check on it irregularly for chat purposes.
I will join you, not super active but sometimes. Joined in on a frigate roam yesterday btw:
http://kb.the-initiative.com/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=128575
Nice kill!
What's your alliance do again?
I've moved to an Atron frigate (4 high power slots FTW!). Fitted it with a rail gun, a blaster, probe launcher and salvager. Also: Hacker, Afterburner, Overdrive Injector. Additionally added some rigs to increase weapon perfrmanece (range, targetting, firing rate). I feel well equipped for most average PvE encounters in high sec up to 0.6. I'm also salvaging a fair bit in asteroid belts.
Also, I jumped to Jita and have been playing the market there. A killing can be made with Fullerite C50 at the moment: buy for 3.3k, sell for 4.9k (down from 5.5 already :( ) - and it has a high turnover. I tripled my money that way yesterday. I also wanted to go back to Dodixie to pick up some stuff.
However, on the way I decided to check out the asteroid fields of an 0.8 system. Plenty of wrecks, plus a few fresh enemies. When I had cleared the system, I had junk worth 2M in my cargo hold, so I went back to Jita to sell. :P
Sounds like you have a nice little racket going, congrats! :cheers:
Yeah. :)
I'm looking to the destroyer class next (though I'll keep my Atron as well). I figure for exploration I need to gear for PvE combat and have the necessary modules installed - and destroyers have lots of high power slots for tools and weapons. It probably won't hold up in PvP but then that's not the goal.
Destroyers are a good progression. Just make sure you're training up the support skills as well. Bigger isn't always better, a mistake most people make and one I made myself when I first started.
Quote from: Alcibiades on February 08, 2013, 11:13:49 AM
Nice kill!
What's your alliance do again?
The alliance Im in, The Intiative Mercenaries, is sort training\casual alliance for The Initative., member of HBC. PVP focused alliance. My corp is a very small swedish corp, that hangs out in NPC delve and joins INIT-fleets everyonce in a while.
Ah, a fellow member of the HBC. Nice...I'm currently in Star Frontiers corporation, part of THORN alliance. Now if I can only find time to log in and do more than change what skill I'm training :D
Well, I've already stopped playing. While I did enjoy my time with the game, I felt that on a typical working day where I maybe have an hour or two of playing time, I couldn't get much done in that time frame (missions, mining, exploration etc.).
Started playing again, and got into a nice High Sec corp that is doing a lot of low sec PvP and wormhole stuff. Associated with a decent sized alliance that lives out of a C5 wornhole, so looking forward to trying that...
Right now I just spent about 250 million ISK on a fleet of frigate-cruiser T1 ships to fit our for PvP. I am going to learn low sec PvP if it kills me. I expect to have many, many losses.
Badass man, I've spent the last 3 years in lowsec, best place to be.
Let me know if you plan to leeroy around the Huola-Kourm-Auga area in minmatar lowsec. :goodboy:
Hope to be back playing a bit in January..... school/holidays/moving has given me zero computer time :(
Rubicon has certainly opened up a lot of possibilities for high sec carebearing.
I haven't really logged on in the past month, but there was a huge battle between PL and the CFC(goons).
59 PL titans and 16 CFC titans went down, also 329 dreads and 132 carriers. End tally was 10 trillion in isk, or $200,000 in cash. :nelson:
That is epic.
Was it an arranged fight?
Quote from: Berkut on January 29, 2014, 11:33:03 AM
That is epic.
Was it an arranged fight?
No, Nulli forgot to pay rent on one of their stations/systems which made it vulnerable. Since it was a PL staging system/station they were very invested in it.
http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/the-bloodbath-of-b-r5rb
11 TRILLION ISK lost, 75 Titans destroyed!
I am just kind of stunned at the amount of coordination it takes from something like this.
Not just controlling the fight, but controlling the fight around the fight - all the secondary battles going on as people try to reinforce, catch those trying to get away, etc., etc.
Freaking amazing.
Well 100% TIDI helps a lot.
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2014/01/30/eve-onlines-largest-battle-to-be-marked-by-ship-graveyard/
QuoteEarlier this week, EVE Online's largest ever ship battle took place between two of the game's player-run factions. Around $300,000 worth of internet spaceships was destroyed. An EVE Online dev blog tells the story of the battle, breaks down the stats, and announces that the Bloodbath of B-R5RB will be commemorated in-game by a field of derelict ships.
The battle began when someone forgot to check the auto-renew box on their sovereignty payment, causing a region of space to slip out from one faction's control and another to try to claim it. By the end of the battle some 12 hours later, 75 Titans had been destroyed, and goods worth around 11 million ISK turned into spacedust. It's that latter figure which can be converted into roughly $300,000, via EVE Online's PLEX system.
Of those 75 Titans, 59 of them were lost by the N3/PL faction. That makes CFC/DTF the clear winners of the battle. This graph sums it up pretty well.
A graph.
The memorial CCP are building to commemorate the battle will be a kind of graveyard, with destroyed, derelict ships floating in space for all to visit. It's a fitting way to mark the battle, and in keeping with EVE Online's efforts to give player's actions real significance. The graveyard should be added during scheduled maintenance on January 31st.
There are a bunch more screenshots, graphs and links to reports through at the EVE devblog. Or just watch this astonishing footage from a neutral observer during the fight.
I gotta admit, I've always found the premise of EVE interesting, but I just can't justify getting into a paid-sub MMO with that kind of time sink.
I tried this thing twice - both times I lost control of my first ship minutes after launch so I promptly shut down the thing and didn't look back.
G.
I've played it quite often.
It's easier & less time consuming to just read Tenton hammer articles on the subject instead.
Quote from: DontSayBanana on January 30, 2014, 01:50:58 PM
I gotta admit, I've always found the premise of EVE interesting, but I just can't justify getting into a paid-sub MMO with that kind of time sink.
This is one game where there's absolutely no dishonor in carebearism.
Quote from: Syt on January 30, 2014, 12:30:09 PM
The battle began when someone forgot to check the auto-renew box on their sovereignty payment, causing a region of space to slip out from one faction's control and another to try to claim it.
Think he got kicked out of the corp?
That sounds really interesting.
But how much time must one devote to the game to make it to that stage? One day someone is going to identify how much economic productivity was lost to games like this :lol:
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 30, 2014, 07:22:55 PM
This is one game where there's absolutely no dishonor in carebearism.
I actually had to look up carebear, and that's one of the things that's kept me from the game- I'd need a freaking dictionary to keep up with the jargon.
Anyway, according to the EVE definition, I'm not quite a care bear- I'm not gonna bitch and whine if I find myself in a PvP situation, I'll just avoid getting into one in the first place. I'd probably run missions; while mining looks like a decent way to make money, EVE seems like it's that special kind of lawless where I'd always have to be worried about pirates, no matter what.
High sec mining is about 99.5% safe as long as you are not an idiot. I've never once lost a mining ship in high sec.
Quote from: DontSayBanana on January 31, 2014, 10:40:38 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 30, 2014, 07:22:55 PM
This is one game where there's absolutely no dishonor in carebearism.
I actually had to look up carebear, and that's one of the things that's kept me from the game- I'd need a freaking dictionary to keep up with the jargon.
Anyway, according to the EVE definition, I'm not quite a care bear- I'm not gonna bitch and whine if I find myself in a PvP situation, I'll just avoid getting into one in the first place. I'd probably run missions; while mining looks like a decent way to make money, EVE seems like it's that special kind of lawless where I'd always have to be worried about pirates, no matter what.
That's what a carebear is :contract:
Actually, you can make quite a bit of money never leaving a station once you've settled into a trading hub, just trading for margins on the goods exchange and, once you have enough cash, pay others to do the manual labor.
Quote from: Syt on January 31, 2014, 11:24:39 AM
Actually, you can make quite a bit of money never leaving a station once you've settled into a trading hub, just trading for margins on the goods exchange and, once you have enough cash, pay others to do the manual labor.
how Ed Anger of you.
Spreadsheet online, eh.
I joined a new corp.
They are the high sec arm of a WH corp that lives in a C5 WH.
They are HS based, but do a lot of low sec roaming, high sec carebear stuff, and what is most interesting is that a bunch of them are very into exploration, both WH and sites.
The WH corp has a nice T3 cruiser program where you can buy a T3 at below build cost, so I've been trying out the Legion. Pretty nice.
Anyway, if anyone is interested, drop me a PM.
Quote from: Berkut on January 31, 2014, 04:07:52 PM
I joined a new corp.
They are the high sec arm of a WH corp that lives in a C5 WH.
They are HS based, but do a lot of low sec roaming, high sec carebear stuff, and what is most interesting is that a bunch of them are very into exploration, both WH and sites.
The WH corp has a nice T3 cruiser program where you can buy a T3 at below build cost, so I've been trying out the Legion. Pretty nice.
Anyway, if anyone is interested, drop me a PM.
Berkut - your post does not have enough acronyms. Please fix ASAP. I could almost, but not quite, understand what you were saying.
LOL
Let's see...
WH - Wormhole
C5 - WH classification
HS - High Sec, referring to the security status of the area of space. HS = Carebear land...mostly.
T3 - Tier 3. Ships are divided (basically) into three tiers, with each higher tier being of higher technology level and generally taking more skills to fily effectively. The only Tier 3 ships are the T3 Cruisers, also called Strategic Cruisers. Suffice it to say that they are pretty cool in the context of the game.
I think that covers all my acronyms. :)
Only took you how many years to go into a wormhole, Berkut?
Quote from: Berkut on January 31, 2014, 04:19:46 PM
LOL
Let's see...
WH - Wormhole
C5 - WH classification
HS - High Sec, referring to the security status of the area of space. HS = Carebear land...mostly.
T3 - Tier 3. Ships are divided (basically) into three tiers, with each higher tier being of higher technology level and generally taking more skills to fily effectively. The only Tier 3 ships are the T3 Cruisers, also called Strategic Cruisers. Suffice it to say that they are pretty cool in the context of the game.
I think that covers all my acronyms. :)
Actually one of the confusing things about "T3's" is that they are actually supposed to be "Tech 3" ships, not tier 3. Only have tier 1 and tier 2 cruisers at the moment, though they came out with tier 3 battle cruisers last year, the long range ones(Tornado, Oracle, Naga, Talos).
Stupid Rubicon is going to make me play again. :lol: :mad:
Also, there's a lot of EVE apps available, from mining market to planetary management.
If I ram berk's cruiser with the starting ship, will I blow it up?
Alas, not Berkut's ship, no.
So much for the trial account.
:(
It has graphics, you wouldn't like it Ed.
Okaaaaaay.
Holy shit, they've added a shit ton of new skills. Magnetometic Targeting? Since when was Gallente Targeting a fucking skill set?
It improves your sensor strength, harder to get ECM'd/falconed/jammed.
So, anybody else learning how to play this game all over again?
I never see anybody in the Languish channel anymore. :(
I have a real people job now, no time... you missed your chance. :(
Eat me, that was in 2011.
I'll come back when it's f2p
:lol:
Lemme borrow some of your stuff, then.
I told you where the money is, all you have to do is go take it.
But I like my positive security status. :lol:
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on March 22, 2014, 07:39:11 PM
I'll come back when it's f2p
Soooooooo
It's f2p now :ph34r:
E: Wait what why do I have 4 billion isk, also holy shit this is different
E2: Apparently I cant board a Rifter because I have Minmatar Frigate V and that requires a paid sub to use? What the hell is this?
Oh okay it's tied to race. I have Gallente carrier at V but no dread (I have Amarr dread IV). Ugh. E3: Er, I can't use anything above......cruiser IV without paying. This is not f2p, it's more like a trial.
LOL
I found the pass for my old account. Since you are race-locked I can barely do anything. I'm minmatar but specialized back in the day in Gallente drone ships (up to carrier which were just released when I left).
Lots of weird new shit in the game (wormholes, hacking, incursions ....). I created an Amarr char from scratch. Almost through the Epic Arc, maybe will do some faction Warfare later or whatever they call it.
It seems to me by the way that Alpha (F2P) clones are not created equal. Gallente ones have the best PvE ship by far (Navy Vexor).