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[CountDeMoney]

When you're ready to join the IDA, let me know.  Tax rate is 0%.

[MadBurgerMaker]

I am pretty sure I said nothing about that - just noted that everyone involved is perfectly aware that IRC did not attack RA as Goonies claim. Perhaps you are not - I don't know - certainly IRC and RA know exactly what happened. Attacking CJ-6 came after that, obviously.

But this isn't CAOD, so you don't have to do the whole lying for Goonies thing as part of their modus operandi. There really isn't anyone here to lie to - I am certainly not worth the effort, since I know what actually happened.

But I do think it is an interesting question, kind of a chicken and egg thing. Did Goons create the war so they would have an excuse for another epic example of their grieifing, or was it just a happy coincidence?

That I do not know, and I imagine you don't either.

Sure, IRC didn't attack RA, except for an assault on C-J6.  Or did that just not happen, and isn't continuing to happen (there are kills and losses on your KB from as recently as 30 minutes ago)?  That right there seems to be enough to get you reset no matter who started what, let alone the next bit:  Did IRC not suddenly get involved in a war with RA just as RA decided to really start attacking AAA from their end of space?  What possible purpose would it serve "goon" to start something like this when it, at least somewhat, keeps RA from helping us effectively while they're too busy fucking you guys up? 

Why in the world would "goon" want to reset a blue while we're already fighting a rather huge war?  And a blue on the other side of the galaxy close to one of our closest allies (1/3 of the RSF....the other 1/3 being TCF)?  Why would "goon" want to start that sort of stupid shit with you mooks?  If "goon" were to start that type of shit, it would probably be after the massive war in Delve/Querious/Period Basis is finished, or at least isn't involving 1,000+ ship battles.  You know...when we can go over there and burn all your shit down.  Then...sure...why not reset some asshats like IRC?  If you think it was somehow to get all that stuff, why didn't we do this way in advance of this little thing in Delve?

Anyhow, if you're really convinced that OMG WE DIDN'T START IT, and that that somehow makes IRC not a bunch of douchenozzles fighting a GS ally at a critical time while getting huge amounts of shit taken from their hangars, maybe look at the alliance that has actually been involved with the whole thing?  The one that you're actively fighting?

And I don't know what the fuck you're talking about as far as lying and whatever other bullshit you're spewing about me simply because I'm "goon."  Go move your stuff and join IDA. 

[CountDeMoney]

Go move your stuff and join IDA.

I don't make anybody ask permission to go to 0.0.

[MadBurgerMaker]

I don't make anybody ask permission to go to 0.0.

IDA seems like it'd be a good time with the way you go around wardeccing and generally pissing people off.

[CountDeMoney]

I don't make anybody ask permission to go to 0.0.

IDA seems like it'd be a good time with the way you go around wardeccing and generally pissing people off.

I am your newbie industrial corp's worst fucking nightmare.  Even without killing anything, I disrupt the shit out of operations.  That makes me giggle.

[Berkut]

I am pretty sure I said nothing about that - just noted that everyone involved is perfectly aware that IRC did not attack RA as Goonies claim. Perhaps you are not - I don't know - certainly IRC and RA know exactly what happened. Attacking CJ-6 came after that, obviously.

But this isn't CAOD, so you don't have to do the whole lying for Goonies thing as part of their modus operandi. There really isn't anyone here to lie to - I am certainly not worth the effort, since I know what actually happened.

But I do think it is an interesting question, kind of a chicken and egg thing. Did Goons create the war so they would have an excuse for another epic example of their grieifing, or was it just a happy coincidence?

That I do not know, and I imagine you don't either.

Sure, IRC didn't attack RA, except for an assault on C-J6.  Or did that just not happen, and isn't continuing to happen (there are kills and losses on your KB from as recently as 30 minutes ago)?  That right there seems to be enough to get you reset no matter who started what, let alone the next bit:  Did IRC not suddenly get involved in a war with RA just as RA decided to really start attacking AAA from their end of space?  What possible purpose would it serve "goon" to start something like this when it, at least somewhat, keeps RA from helping us effectively while they're too busy fucking you guys up? 

Why in the world would "goon" want to reset a blue while we're already fighting a rather huge war?  And a blue on the other side of the galaxy close to one of our closest allies (1/3 of the RSF....the other 1/3 being TCF)?  Why would "goon" want to start that sort of stupid shit with you mooks?  If "goon" were to start that type of shit, it would probably be after the massive war in Delve/Querious/Period Basis is finished, or at least isn't involving 1,000+ ship battles.  You know...when we can go over there and burn all your shit down.  Then...sure...why not reset some asshats like IRC?  If you think it was somehow to get all that stuff, why didn't we do this way in advance of this little thing in Delve?

Anyhow, if you're really convinced that OMG WE DIDN'T START IT, and that that somehow makes IRC not a bunch of douchenozzles fighting a GS ally at a critical time while getting huge amounts of shit taken from their hangars, maybe look at the alliance that has actually been involved with the whole thing?  The one that you're actively fighting?

And I don't know what the fuck you're talking about as far as lying and whatever other bullshit you're spewing about me simply because I'm "goon."  Go move your stuff and join IDA. 

Oh my, so angry.

There is a simple reason goons do shit like this - because they are griefers. It is their thing, and they are perfectly willing to admit it. It doesn't need to make any sense in the grand scheme of things - they get their giggles from simply making others miserable, and that is enough. I certainly don't know, but given their history, it wold not surorise me in the least if they realized they could do this, and decided to create a reason to do so, just because they can.

And of course there is fighting going on now in CJ-6, RA/Goon instigated a war. I never claimed there was not - only that the claims from Goon that IRC decided to just go after RA for no reason are patently false - and of course they are. I certainly have nothing to gain by lying about it, and the entire thing was discussed on IRC forums ad naseum - IRC never wanted to go to war with RA - that doesn't mean they are going to just kiss their ass though.

Your argument is like saying it was the Allies fault for starting WW2 because they invaded Germany in 1945.

I don't know much of anything about RA, I have no idea why they decided to go to war with IRC because IRC refused to let them escort neutrals into IRC space. You tell me.

And I ahve no idea if YOU are lying - it is entirely possible you actually believe the Pravda of the Goon leadership. I don't know. What is sad is that you think Languish is just an extension of CAOD, and are parroting not only the Goon line of bullshit, but their dickhead attitude of "Haha, we stole your shit, cry more newb!". It is there thing, it is their persona, but that doesn't mean you have to parrot it here.

And really, if I was going to join IDA, I might as well just join Goon. Seedy is more Goon than most Goon. Griefing for its own sake. Every game has them.

[Berkut]

I don't make anybody ask permission to go to 0.0.

IDA seems like it'd be a good time with the way you go around wardeccing and generally pissing people off.

I am your newbie industrial corp's worst fucking nightmare.  Even without killing anything, I disrupt the shit out of operations.  That makes me giggle.

See - you should be the one joining IDA - except you are already in Goon, which is just IDA on a grand scale.

[MadBurgerMaker]

See - you should be the one joining IDA - except you are already in Goon, which is just IDA on a grand scale.

I am in IDA now.

And yes boohoo IRC is an innocent victim in all of this.  You win.  Now go cry in a corner.  No one cares about IRC.

[Berkut]

See - you should be the one joining IDA - except you are already in Goon, which is just IDA on a grand scale.

I am in IDA now.

And yes boohoo IRC is an innocent victim in all of this.  You win.  Now go cry in a corner.  No one cares about IRC.

Innocent victim? WTF are you babbling about now?

Why do you care so much that I called goons a bunch of liars and griefers? They are perfectly content with that label, even wallow in it.

I guess you can take the goon out of CAOD, but you cannot take the CAOD out of the goon.

[MadBurgerMaker]

Innocent victim? WTF are you babbling about now?

Why do you care so much that I called goons a bunch of liars and griefers? They are perfectly content with that label, even wallow in it.

I guess you can take the goon out of CAOD, but you cannot take the CAOD out of the goon.

Oh for fucks sake.  Shut up and join IDA with us. 



(don't know what Cookie Monster is all about in this, but whatever)

And really, if I was going to join IDA, I might as well just join Goon. Seedy is more Goon than most Goon. Griefing for its own sake. Every game has them.

You can't join GoonFleet.

[CountDeMoney]

And really, if I was going to join IDA, I might as well just join Goon. Seedy is more Goon than most Goon. Griefing for its own sake. Every game has them.

Well, when you put it that way....thank you.

[MadBurgerMaker]

Yeah...forget the cruiser, CdM.  I'm just going to stick with the arty destroyer and provide "long range" (up to ~30km) support.  EFT is saying only 6.5m isk for one of these with 250mm light arty II's (680k each), so it's pretty disposable, even if I don't bother to insure it.

Plus it perma runs everything.  Oh, and it's still under the 900k alpha clone limit.  It's just a glass cannon. 

Or I could go cheap and have the thing only cost 1.7m with T1 guns, but lose about 100 off the alpha (from 530 to 424 with republic nuclear), and 4km of range.  But 1.7m for that is ridiculously inexpensive.  That covops cloak we pulled off that dude tonight would buy 5 or 6 of them.  Completely disposable, and it sounds really quite fun to use.  The tracking is excellent as well, so I should be able to nuke any pesky light drones sent after me pretty quickly, but if not.....eh.

[Grey Fox]

You can't join GoonFleet.

He can join GoonSwarm tho.

[CountDeMoney]

Our first night flying together, and MBM and I bag a T2 cruiser who had the cajones to take us on.  Sucker.  DONT FUCK WITH THE IDA

http://irishdemocraticarmy.griefwatch.net/index.php?p=details&kill=18

MBM, I also changed your title to something more appropriate.

[Baron von Schtinkenbutt]

Our first night flying together, and MBM and I bag a T2 cruiser who had the cajones to take us on.  Sucker.  DONT FUCK WITH THE IDA

http://irishdemocraticarmy.griefwatch.net/index.php?p=details&kill=18

MBM, I also changed your title to something more appropriate.

That's a shitty fit for an Arazu.