So your guy have collectively elected an near infinite ego to the world's most powerful political position.
Whether you were for or against him, how are you going to deal with a four year Trump presidency?
What is going to be your personal response to his 'policies'?
For me, being a western foreigner, I figure it like this, I'm going to be one of the last few percentage of the world population directly affected my any of his random, egotistical or deluded actions. So I reckon I've got a good chance of carrying out my policy with regard to Trump.
And it's this, I'm assuming America has replaced the office of the president with that of the world's largest reality TV show, it'll be other people in Washington and elsewhere who will still engage in politics, but perhaps within a somewhat different framework.
I've found I pretty mush ignore all celebrity gossips and all the bollocks associated with reality TV; I still have no clear idea who JZ is, what Kimmy Kardishianos does and am only vaguely aware that Ozzie Osbourne is still alive and married to someone now more famous.
So I guess I can have a good stab at entirely ignoring anything to do with Trump and the circus that'll spring up around him. If I stay away from Facebook and all that attendant silliness and limit my news watching/reading to more long term stuff and less rolling news coverage, I think I can get away with just knowing Trump is a tool and that the four year fiasco is something Americans have to endure, rather than me.
I should also point out, lest I be thought a snob, we here have our on comedy of errors, namely 'Dave, Nigel and Theresa's Brexit Vicarage Farce' to keep us entertained for the next few years.
Business as usual. I will be mildly surprised if there is fundamental change in the US. They've certainly had crap presidents before, if in fact he turns out to be crap.
I will continue to enjoy a favorable exchange rate when I go shopping during visits to the States.
If I believed in something I'd pray that he doesn't gut the H-1B visa system before I get the chance to apply for one. Other than that, honestly there's little I can do from here. :hmm:
We don't even have our own far-right insurgent movement to worry about. Man, as usual Spain is so behind the times.
Quote from: celedhring on November 09, 2016, 04:08:46 PM
If I believed in something I'd pray that he doesn't gut the H-1B visa system before I get the chance to apply for one.
Go for an O-1 "Alien of Extraordinary Ability". No limits.
Quote from: Hamilcar on November 09, 2016, 04:10:31 PM
Quote from: celedhring on November 09, 2016, 04:08:46 PM
If I believed in something I'd pray that he doesn't gut the H-1B visa system before I get the chance to apply for one.
Go for an O-1 "Alien of Extraordinary Ability". No limits.
But I'd need extraordinary ability for that. :hmm:
To be honest, though, I have had colleagues get one on rather average merits.
Quote from: celedhring on November 09, 2016, 04:08:46 PM
We don't even have our own far-right insurgent movement to worry about. Man, as usual Spain is so behind the times.
You've already gone far right. You aren't so much behind as at a different point in the cycle.
Quote from: mongers on November 09, 2016, 04:02:43 PM
only vaguely aware that Ozzie Osbourne is still alive and married to someone now more famous.
More famous than him? Nah.
My main worry is that the Republicans take away my health care. Other than that, life will go on as usual. WW3 is still a distant possibility which I can do nothing about, so it does no good to worry about it.
Quote from: celedhring on November 09, 2016, 04:08:46 PM
If I believed in something I'd pray that he doesn't gut the H-1B visa system before I get the chance to apply for one. Other than that, honestly there's little I can do from here. :hmm:
We don't even have our own far-right insurgent movement to worry about. Man, as usual Spain is so behind the times.
Don't you guys not even have a government?
No response. There really is no use getting angry over it. The trends in the US have shifted, and like so many other things in the world, I have zero control over it. Life goes on. I do think the people are too emotionally invested in elections that they have no control over.
Quote from: mongers on November 09, 2016, 04:02:43 PM
What is going to be your personal response to his 'policies'?
Buy a gun. The type that can't be legally bought. Lots of ammo. Reinforce the doors and the windows. The guy seems to have a huge fan club in an around the area that will be the most affected by his policies, things will turn desperate when all these people are laid off due to lack of demand for our exports.
Business wise, it's gonna be tough. I depend on clients having money to spend. My clients depend on Americans having money to buy their product. As America gets poorer and the trade diminishes, the local industries will stop investing to expand their business, that means less contract for me. The Trudeau government is set to raise income taxes on filthy business owners like me and corporate tax income as well. His policies of endebtment will provide a short term boost to Ontario's economy, but that's too far for me. Within 4-5 years, we will get to the aftershock and things will be dire, combined to the US declining economy.
My dream of touring the US east coast up to Texas is postponed forever. No way I'm setting foot in a land that blames foreigners for all their problems.
Quote from: Scipio on November 09, 2016, 04:29:09 PM
Quote from: celedhring on November 09, 2016, 04:08:46 PM
If I believed in something I'd pray that he doesn't gut the H-1B visa system before I get the chance to apply for one. Other than that, honestly there's little I can do from here. :hmm:
We don't even have our own far-right insurgent movement to worry about. Man, as usual Spain is so behind the times.
Don't you guys not even have a government?
We do now, your regular corrupt establishment conservatives.
Quote from: Monoriu on November 09, 2016, 04:29:48 PM
No response. There really is no use getting angry over it. The trends in the US have shifted, and like so many other things in the world, I have zero control over it. Life goes on. I do think the people are too emotionally invested in elections that they have no control over.
We don't have any control over natural disasters, either. But people still get upset when a storm blows their house down.
Trump has promised to gut the trade agreements that have major impact on the economic viability of our countries. That can hit us right in the pocket-book, signaling a downward economic spiral. The damage of this will not be confined to the US. Now, it could well be that he's simply lying, no way to tell.
I've already checked, and unfortunately the company I work for doesn't do business in Belize. So it's either move to Belize and find a new job, or stay here and grin and bear it.
Why not Australia?
I expect to continue pretty much the same as I have under the Obama administration. Can't really see things being much different in my day to day.
I guess I have a lot of ammo to burn off at the range, since I can't profiteer from it as I expected to.
He has been elected President so he gets to be President. Nothing really for me to do but wait around until the next time to vote. Same time next year for some local stuff I guess.
I just have to hope that somehow he actually does a good job. If he does a shit job then hopefully his party will suffer in 2018.
No perceptible change in behaviour.
Quote from: The Brain on November 09, 2016, 05:09:34 PM
Quote from: Martinus on November 09, 2016, 05:05:10 PM
No perceptible change in behaviour.
:(
On account of Trump's victory. I plan to change a lot of things independently. :P
Quote from: celedhring on November 09, 2016, 04:08:46 PM
We don't even have our own far-right insurgent movement to worry about. Man, as usual Spain is so behind the times.
Maybe Podemos can broaden their base.
I'm too busy worrying about british fascists tbh.
Was thinking about getting married next year and returning home in 2018. Given how poorly the economy is likely to be doing, and the attitude towards immigrants. My plans are now in serious doubt. :(
sorry for you, that sucks :(
Well, Canada is not as cold as it sounds. There are some lovely places over here. Depending on where you live, taxes can go from bad to horrible. Our head of State lives abroad and our chief of government is a cheerleader, but there's a price to pay to avoid Trumpland!
Quote from: jimmy olsen on November 09, 2016, 06:40:35 PM
Was thinking about getting married next year and returning home, the in 2018. Given how poorly the economy is likely to be doing, and the attitude towards immigrants. My plans are now in serious doubt. :(
You can always stay there if 2018 rolls around and things are as you say.
Participate in the French right and centre primary election. :frog:
Quote from: Tyr on November 09, 2016, 06:37:52 PM
I'm too busy worrying about british fascists tbh.
Yeah we've got our own fights to put the bigots back into their caves.
Quote from: mongers on November 09, 2016, 04:02:43 PM
What is going to be your personal response to his 'policies'?
Lose my healthcare.
I think it was a mistake to be emotionally invested in elections. There is no point trying to stop an incoming tsunami. Observation is good enough.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on November 09, 2016, 06:40:35 PM
Was thinking about getting married next year and returning home in 2018. Given how poorly the economy is likely to be doing, and the attitude towards immigrants. My plans are now in serious doubt. :(
I recommend coming home. The Tweet World War with North Korea could result in only a few hundred thousand American casualties, but millions of South Koreans and Japanese.
Pursue my escapist hobbies with approximately the same vigor as before, while simultaneously using the impending chaos and hysteria as an opportunity to further cultivate my inner calm and detachment. :)
Unless we hit a major recession, nothing in my immediate life should change. A lot of my friends are pretty down at the moment, though. :(
Quote from: Eddie Teach on November 09, 2016, 04:40:50 PM
Why not Australia?
Kangaroos may be cute, but are actually kind of mean.
Quote from: dps on November 09, 2016, 10:48:12 PM
Quote from: Eddie Teach on November 09, 2016, 04:40:50 PM
Why not Australia?
Kangaroos may be cute, but are actually kind of mean.
I bet they can fuck up a car at 50 mph, too.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on November 09, 2016, 07:42:35 PM
Quote from: mongers on November 09, 2016, 04:02:43 PM
What is going to be your personal response to his 'policies'?
Lose my healthcare.
You have a connect up north for all your health needs, mon ami. Hit a brother up ;)
I can longer financially support my parents as my dependents if they lose subsidized Obamacare.
Quote from: derspiess on November 09, 2016, 04:49:04 PM
I guess I have a lot of ammo to burn off at the range, since I can't profiteer from it as I expected to.
I'll be buying as need to hoard for the impending Russian occupation of Alaska.
I know it is the wrong reaction, and hopefully it'll burn away in the coming weeks/months, but at the moment it has just enforced my negative views of fly over country. I hope they enjoy their continued suffering once the feelings of elation come to their inevitable conclusion with Trump. -_-
Quote from: Camerus on November 09, 2016, 10:46:22 PM
Pursue my escapist hobbies with approximately the same vigor as before, while simultaneously using the impending chaos and hysteria as an opportunity to further cultivate my inner calm and detachment. :)
:yes:
This has been my response so far to the populist right winning in Poland last year.
Quote from: dps on November 09, 2016, 10:48:12 PM
Quote from: Eddie Teach on November 09, 2016, 04:40:50 PM
Why not Australia?
Kangaroos may be cute, but are actually kind of mean.
I know. Their court system is atrocious.
hope the best and carry on.
Looking forward to the comedy of errors, actually. I need some more popcorn.
My actual plan is to pay less attention to the news and carry on with my life. Thankfully, myself and my immediate family have enough money that unless something crazy goes down, there will be little personal impact.
Quote from: garbon on November 10, 2016, 07:02:03 AM
My actual plan is to pay less attention to the news and carry on with my life. Thankfully, myself and my immediate family have enough money that unless something crazy goes down, there will be little personal impact.
This is a sound policy and it'll starve Trump of the oxygen of publicity that his ego will still demand of the world, I say fuck him, hope he dies of boredom in the oval office.
The rise of xenophobia and fascism is a bit of a bummer when you are an immigrant. At least back home I was considered one of the Purebloods so as long as I'd keep my mouth shut and wave my arms as expected, would be left alone. If things continue to deteriorate, I'll find myself as untermensch for the rest of my life.
Quote from: Tamas on November 10, 2016, 07:15:09 AM
The rise of xenophobia and fascism is a bit of a bummer when you are an immigrant. At least back home I was considered one of the Purebloods so as long as I'd keep my mouth shut and wave my arms as expected, would be left alone. If things continue to deteriorate, I'll find myself as untermensch for the rest of my life.
You can always go back to Mother Hungary (Father Hungary?). Meanwhile, I've no recourse.
Quote from: Duque de Bragança on November 09, 2016, 07:16:39 PM
Participate in the French right and centre primary election. :frog:
Would that primary be: Les Républicains? :hmm:
This branding is a little different when it goes overseas :P
(https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQGRiAd0P5DJNH29k7EyWb9aSBo27w-bbU3f_v6PKfX-_WK5y82yw)
Quote from: garbon on November 10, 2016, 08:46:03 AM
Quote from: Tamas on November 10, 2016, 07:15:09 AM
The rise of xenophobia and fascism is a bit of a bummer when you are an immigrant. At least back home I was considered one of the Purebloods so as long as I'd keep my mouth shut and wave my arms as expected, would be left alone. If things continue to deteriorate, I'll find myself as untermensch for the rest of my life.
You can always go back to Mother Hungary (Father Hungary?). Meanwhile, I've no recourse.
You will always be one of the Purebloods of Languish.
In day 2 of the overreaction, I'm thinking of switching sides. Christ, the anti-trumpians have gotten fucking annoying.
Quote from: Ed Anger on November 10, 2016, 09:40:28 AM
In day 2 of the overreaction, I'm thinking of switching sides. Christ, the anti-trumpians have gotten fucking annoying.
Meh you remember how annoying they all got during the Bush years. BUSH IZ HITLER!!11
It will be worse this time.
Quote from: Tamas on November 10, 2016, 07:15:09 AM
The rise of xenophobia and fascism is a bit of a bummer when you are an immigrant. At least back home I was considered one of the Purebloods so as long as I'd keep my mouth shut and wave my arms as expected, would be left alone. If things continue to deteriorate, I'll find myself as untermensch for the rest of my life.
Try you luck with France, with Sarkozy again as the next president, anti-hungarian sentiment should be at an all time low!
(nah, don't try that :P )
Don't know what to say, I don't really follow day to day British politics.
Quote from: Valmy on November 10, 2016, 10:07:30 AM
Meh you remember how annoying they all got during the Bush years. BUSH IZ HITLER!!11
It will be worse this time.
Will we see the return of: Cindy Sheehan!
Quote from: viper37 on November 10, 2016, 10:14:44 AM
Don't know what to say, I don't really follow day to day British politics.
Don't you want to see how the other realms of your Queen are doing? :(
Quote from: Valmy on November 10, 2016, 10:16:58 AM
Quote from: viper37 on November 10, 2016, 10:14:44 AM
Don't know what to say, I don't really follow day to day British politics.
Don't you want to see how the other realms of your Queen are doing? :(
Why would he? That would only show him that She is a pretty awesome Head of State.
Quote from: Caliga on November 10, 2016, 10:16:52 AM
Quote from: Valmy on November 10, 2016, 10:07:30 AM
Meh you remember how annoying they all got during the Bush years. BUSH IZ HITLER!!11
It will be worse this time.
Will we see the return of: Cindy Sheehan!
:lol: I had to google to make sure she wasn't dead.
She left the Democrats since they weren't Communist enough. :P
Quote from: Valmy on November 10, 2016, 10:22:58 AM
:lol: I had to google to make sure she wasn't dead.
She left the Democrats since they weren't Communist enough. :P
I feel kind of bad mocking her since her son died serving the country. :blush:
Quote from: Valmy on November 10, 2016, 09:00:39 AM
Quote from: Duque de Bragança on November 09, 2016, 07:16:39 PM
Participate in the French right and centre primary election. :frog:
Would that primary be: Les Républicains? :hmm:
This branding is a little different when it goes overseas :P
(https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQGRiAd0P5DJNH29k7EyWb9aSBo27w-bbU3f_v6PKfX-_WK5y82yw)
Yep, with some centre party piggy-backing.
Quote from: Duque de Bragança on November 10, 2016, 11:09:53 AM
Yep, with some centre party piggy-backing.
:thumbsup: Stop Le Pen.
Quote from: Valmy on November 10, 2016, 11:13:57 AM
Quote from: Duque de Bragança on November 10, 2016, 11:09:53 AM
Yep, with some centre party piggy-backing.
:thumbsup: Stop Le Pen.
Yay, let's do the Mitterand Manoeuvre on reverse. The PS deserves it again though actual economic reform will have to wait.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on November 09, 2016, 06:40:35 PM
Was thinking about getting married next year and returning home in 2018. Given how poorly the economy is likely to be doing, and the attitude towards immigrants. My plans are now in serious doubt. :(
The economy is doing okay, regardless of what happens it will almost certainly be better than in S. Korea, and regardless of any turn against immigrants, the attitude is almost certainly better than in East Asia.
What people often forget is that economies are built on things like supply, demand, infrastructure and labor and shit like that. Government policies and taxation can play a role but damn do people think it is somehow all about that.
Quote from: Valmy on November 10, 2016, 12:26:46 PM
What people often forget is that economies are built on things like supply, demand, infrastructure and labor and shit like that. Government policies and taxation can play a role but damn do people think it is somehow all about that.
I suspect that even if Trump makes good policy elections as US president, US multinationals are going to suffer. Foreign consumers, courts, trade representatives etc. are going to be taking a more negative attitude to US interests under Trump vs. Obama.
Quote from: alfred russel on November 10, 2016, 12:24:23 PM
regardless of any turn against immigrants, the attitude is almost certainly better than in East Asia.
Yeah, but that's ok because Tim doesn't understand their snarky comments.
Quote from: alfred russel on November 10, 2016, 12:30:47 PM
I suspect that even if Trump makes good policy elections as US president, US multinationals are going to suffer. Foreign consumers, courts, trade representatives etc. are going to be taking a more negative attitude to US interests under Trump vs. Obama.
That would be incredibly short sighted, especially since they didn't seem to be particularly favorable just because Obama was in charge.
Quote from: frunk on November 10, 2016, 12:53:56 PM
Quote from: alfred russel on November 10, 2016, 12:30:47 PM
I suspect that even if Trump makes good policy elections as US president, US multinationals are going to suffer. Foreign consumers, courts, trade representatives etc. are going to be taking a more negative attitude to US interests under Trump vs. Obama.
That would be incredibly short sighted, especially since they didn't seem to be particularly favorable just because Obama was in charge.
It isn't about being short sited or long sited. In part it is just human nature. You are a Liberian going to buy a soft drink. You can buy an American one (coke / pepsi), or a local brand, or just drink juice/water. The view of America is going to color that somewhat.
Quote from: alfred russel on November 10, 2016, 01:13:52 PM
It isn't about being short sited or long sited. In part it is just human nature. You are a Liberian going to buy a soft drink. You can buy an American one (coke / pepsi), or a local brand, or just drink juice/water. The view of America is going to color that somewhat.
Individual consumers, maybe. Businesses or trade delegations, unlikely. They don't have to deal directly with Trump. Besides, I'm sure we'll be getting a lot more business from Russia.
The Obama staff is not responding well. Yowza.
http://hollywoodlife.com/2016/11/10/barack-obama-staff-crying-donald-trump-election-win-pics/
(https://pmchollywoodlife.files.wordpress.com/2016/11/obama-team-2.jpg?w=600)
(https://pmchollywoodlife.files.wordpress.com/2016/11/president-obama-team-cries-and-looks-furious-as-he-welcome-trump-to-presidency-ftr.jpg?w=600)
Is there a dedicated website filled with pictures of people crying after Trump won.
Dunno, but Val looks like she's about ready to choke someone.
I renewed my passport today.
I thought about it for a while. Thought Hillary was a toilet seat, but still cant believe Trump is the next US President.
I have lived in the US for 21 years now and raised a son who is American. What should I do?
Well, this didnt need to happen and a cursory glance at the poll numbers reveals it was completely preventable and that Trump was not hard to beat, despite his bottled lightning celebrity machismo. It's just that the Democratic party tried to usher in Hillary and....well.
So, what should I do?
I'm going to apply for my US citizenship first of all, finally. I'm going to do that as soon as I can wrangle $700. Then I'm going to join the Democratic party and I'm going to vote every chance I get. But I'm going to do my best to volunteer and get involved and do whatever I can to move that party in a better direction. What else can I do? The US has been so good to me. Apparently it needs my help.
Quote from: fromtia on November 11, 2016, 12:25:45 AM
I thought about it for a while. Thought Hillary was a toilet seat, but still cant believe Trump is the next US President.
I have lived in the US for 21 years now and raised a son who is American. What should I do?
Well, this didnt need to happen and a cursory glance at the poll numbers reveals it was completely preventable and that Trump was not hard to beat, despite his bottled lightning celebrity machismo. It's just that the Democratic party tried to usher in Hillary and....well.
So, what should I do?
I'm going to apply for my US citizenship first of all, finally. I'm going to do that as soon as I can wrangle $700. Then I'm going to join the Democratic party and I'm going to vote every chance I get. But I'm going to do my best to volunteer and get involved and do whatever I can to move that party in a better direction. What else can I do? The US has been so good to me. Apparently it needs my help.
Encourage others around you to do the same.
I'm honestly surprised I haven't gotten into a fistfight yet.
Hey Ide! :hug:
There's still time <_< :P
Quote from: fromtia on November 11, 2016, 12:25:45 AM
I thought about it for a while. Thought Hillary was a toilet seat, but still cant believe Trump is the next US President.
I have lived in the US for 21 years now and raised a son who is American. What should I do?
Well, this didnt need to happen and a cursory glance at the poll numbers reveals it was completely preventable and that Trump was not hard to beat, despite his bottled lightning celebrity machismo. It's just that the Democratic party tried to usher in Hillary and....well.
So, what should I do?
I'm going to apply for my US citizenship first of all, finally. I'm going to do that as soon as I can wrangle $700. Then I'm going to join the Democratic party and I'm going to vote every chance I get. But I'm going to do my best to volunteer and get involved and do whatever I can to move that party in a better direction. What else can I do? The US has been so good to me. Apparently it needs my help.
Save yourself.
Quote from: fromtia on November 11, 2016, 12:25:45 AM
What else can I do?
You can either become a big bucks donor and jawbone all the players about what you want in a candidate, or move to an early primary state and volunteer for someone you like.
Quote from: fromtia on November 11, 2016, 12:25:45 AM
I thought about it for a while. Thought Hillary was a toilet seat, but still cant believe Trump is the next US President.
I have lived in the US for 21 years now and raised a son who is American. What should I do?
Well, this didnt need to happen and a cursory glance at the poll numbers reveals it was completely preventable and that Trump was not hard to beat, despite his bottled lightning celebrity machismo. It's just that the Democratic party tried to usher in Hillary and....well.
So, what should I do?
I'm going to apply for my US citizenship first of all, finally. I'm going to do that as soon as I can wrangle $700. Then I'm going to join the Democratic party and I'm going to vote every chance I get. But I'm going to do my best to volunteer and get involved and do whatever I can to move that party in a better direction. What else can I do? The US has been so good to me. Apparently it needs my help.
Make sure your son has UK citizenship.
Quote from: fromtia on November 11, 2016, 12:25:45 AM
I thought about it for a while. Thought Hillary was a toilet seat, but still cant believe Trump is the next US President.
I have lived in the US for 21 years now and raised a son who is American. What should I do?
Well, this didnt need to happen and a cursory glance at the poll numbers reveals it was completely preventable and that Trump was not hard to beat, despite his bottled lightning celebrity machismo. It's just that the Democratic party tried to usher in Hillary and....well.
So, what should I do?
I'm going to apply for my US citizenship first of all, finally. I'm going to do that as soon as I can wrangle $700. Then I'm going to join the Democratic party and I'm going to vote every chance I get. But I'm going to do my best to volunteer and get involved and do whatever I can to move that party in a better direction. What else can I do? The US has been so good to me. Apparently it needs my help.
Sounds good, enough people do the right thing there may be hope.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on November 11, 2016, 01:17:34 AM
Save yourself.
It's tempting, to be sure. Going back to Theresa May, Nigel Farage and Boris Johnson seems unappealing, my ship has been burnt. I'm staying.
Also, the UK political system is locked up. One lesson of Trump, is that apparently the US presidency is up for grabs.
Nothing. I could imagine that he will have an influence on our foreign policy, but I don't think that he will have any noticable effect on my own life.
That said, I see him as part of a bigger populist wave in the Western world and wonder what his spiritual brethren here might do in our general election next year.
Quote from: Zanza on November 11, 2016, 09:46:10 AM
Nothing. I could imagine that he will have an influence on our foreign policy, but I don't think that he will have any noticable effect on my own life.
I suppose that also depends on whether it's an airburst or ground-level detonation.
Quote from: fromtia on November 11, 2016, 12:25:45 AM
What else can I do? The US has been so good to me. Apparently it needs my help.
Yes, it does need your help. Like someone trying to kill himself. However, if you put yourself in danger, you're of no use.
Better move to Canada, no matter the government, we're always tolerant of immigrants. Besides, being of British origins, you'll still have the same head of state :yucky: and lots of people wake up singing God save the Queen while seeing the old British colonial flag raise up in the morning. Well, I guess that's where that monarchist&colonial love from Harper came from, at least.
Quote from: viper37 on November 11, 2016, 10:41:19 AM
Quote from: fromtia on November 11, 2016, 12:25:45 AM
What else can I do? The US has been so good to me. Apparently it needs my help.
Yes, it does need your help. Like someone trying to kill himself. However, if you put yourself in danger, you're of no use.
You can't save somebody who doesn't want to save themselves.
Showed this to the wife this morning and her first reaction was that she wished she had not listened to me and just voted Trump :lol:
http://cornellsun.com/2016/11/09/devastated-cornellians-mourn-election-of-donald-trump-at-cry-in/
Quote from: derspiess on November 11, 2016, 12:20:56 PM
Showed this to the wife this morning and her first reaction was that she wished she had not listened to me and just voted Trump :lol:
http://cornellsun.com/2016/11/09/devastated-cornellians-mourn-election-of-donald-trump-at-cry-in/
You two probably came so hard. Together. Because it's specialer that way.
OK I've now said my piece about Trump, time to get on with live; I think this particular thread has run it's course and we have to many T**** threads as its is, so any objections to me closing this one?
go for it
Quote from: Tamas on November 11, 2016, 12:52:36 PM
go for it
OK I'll give it wait for my afternoon tea* go down and then lock it.
* much delayed today. :bowler: