... according to critics polled by the BBC:
http://www.bbc.com/culture/story/20150720-the-100-greatest-american-films
QuoteBBC Culture polled film critics from around the world to determine the best American movies ever made. The results are surprising – Gone With the Wind appears at 97.
America's films are among its greatest exports. Since Thomas Edison's innovations in the medium in the 1890s, the United States has consistently been a powerhouse in the development of cinema – from the massively popular entertainments of Hollywood to independent and avant-garde film. In recognition of the astounding influence of the US on what remains the most popular art-form worldwide, BBC Culture has polled 62 international film critics to determine the 100 greatest American films of all time.
This is a national film tradition that has influenced film-making worldwide, so we felt it was important, also, to get a global perspective on American film: the critics we polled live and work all over the world, from the United Kingdom and continental Europe to South America, Australia, India and the Middle East – and of course the United States as well. Previous film polls conducted by other publications or organisations either haven't looked solely at American film or have drawn their poll contributors from within the US film industry, not necessarily relying just on the opinion of critics. Some of the critics we invited to participate are film reviewers at newspapers or magazines, others are broadcasters and some write books.
What defines an American film? For the purposes of this poll, it is any movie that received funding from a US source. The directors of these films did not have to be born in the United States – in fact, 32 films on the list were directed by film-makers born elsewhere – nor did the films even have to be shot in the US. Each critic who participated submitted a list of 10 films, with their pick for the greatest film receiving 10 points and their number 10 pick receiving one point. The points were added up to produce the final list. Critics were encouraged to submit lists of the 10 films they feel, on an emotional level, are the greatest in American cinema – not necessarily the most important, just the best. These are the results.
TEH LIZT:
100. Ace in the Hole (Billy Wilder, 1951)
99. 12 Years a Slave (Steve McQueen, 2013)
98. Heaven's Gate (Michael Cimino, 1980)
97. Gone With the Wind (Victor Fleming, 1939)
96. The Dark Knight (Christopher Nolan, 2008)
95. Duck Soup (Leo McCarey, 1933)
94. 25th Hour (Spike Lee, 2002)
93. Mean Streets (Martin Scorsese, 1973)
92. The Night of the Hunter (Charles Laughton, 1955)
91. ET: The Extra-Terrestrial (Steven Spielberg, 1982)
90. Apocalypse Now (Francis Ford Coppola, 1979)
89. In a Lonely Place (Nicholas Ray, 1950)
88. West Side Story (Robert Wise and Jerome Robbins, 1961)
87. Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind (Michel Gondry, 2004)
86. The Lion King (Roger Allers and Rob Minkoff, 1994)
85. Night of the Living Dead (George A Romero, 1968)
84. Deliverance (John Boorman, 1972)
83. Bringing Up Baby (Howard Hawks, 1938)
82. Raiders of the Lost Ark (Steven Spielberg, 1981)
81. Thelma & Louise (Ridley Scott, 1991)
80. Meet Me in St Louis (Vincente Minnelli, 1944)
79. The Tree of Life (Terrence Malick, 2011)
78. Schindler's List (Steven Spielberg, 1993)
77. Stagecoach (John Ford, 1939)
76. The Empire Strikes Back (Irvin Kershner, 1980)
75. Close Encounters of the Third Kind (Steven Spielberg, 1977)
74. Forrest Gump (Robert Zemeckis, 1994)
73. Network (Sidney Lumet, 1976)
72. The Shanghai Gesture (Josef von Sternberg, 1941)
71. Groundhog Day (Harold Ramis, 1993)
70. The Band Wagon (Vincente Minnelli, 1953)
69. Koyaanisqatsi (Godfrey Reggio, 1982)
68. Notorious (Alfred Hitchcock, 1946)
67. Modern Times (Charlie Chaplin, 1936)
66. Red River (Howard Hawks, 1948)
65. The Right Stuff (Philip Kaufman, 1965)
64. Johnny Guitar (Nicholas Ray, 1954)
63. Love Streams (John Cassavetes, 1984)
62. The Shining (Stanley Kubrick, 1980)
61. Eyes Wide Shut (Stanley Kubrick, 1999)
60. Blue Velvet (David Lynch, 1986)
59. One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest (Miloš Forman, 1975)
58. The Shop Around the Corner (Ernst Lubitsch, 1940)
57. Crimes and Misdemeanors (Woody Allen, 1989)
56. Back to the Future (Robert Zemeckis, 1985)
55. The Graduate (Mike Nichols, 1967)
54. Sunset Boulevard (Billy Wilder, 1950)
53. Grey Gardens (Albert and David Maysles, Ellen Hovde and Muffie Meyer, 1975)
52. The Wild Bunch (Sam Peckinpah, 1969)
51. Touch of Evil (Orson Welles, 1958)
50. His Girl Friday (Howard Hawks, 1940)
49. Days of Heaven (Terrence Malick, 1978)
48. A Place in the Sun (George Stevens, 1951)
47. Marnie (Alfred Hitchcock, 1964)
46. It's a Wonderful Life (Frank Capra, 1946)
45. The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance (John Ford, 1962)
44. Sherlock Jr (Buster Keaton, 1924)
43. Letter from an Unknown Woman (Max Ophüls, 1948)
42. Dr Strangelove (Stanley Kubrick, 1964)
41. Rio Bravo (Howard Hawks, 1959)
40. Meshes of the Afternoon (Maya Deren and Alexander Hammid, 1943)
39. The Birth of a Nation (DW Griffith, 1915)
38. Jaws (Steven Spielberg, 1975)
37. Imitation of Life (Douglas Sirk, 1959)
36. Star Wars (George Lucas, 1977)
35. Double Indemnity (Billy Wilder, 1944)
34. The Wizard of Oz (Victor Fleming, 1939)
33. The Conversation (Francis Ford Coppola, 1974)
32. The Lady Eve (Preston Sturges, 1941)
31. A Woman Under the Influence (John Cassavetes, 1974)
30. Some Like It Hot (Billy Wilder, 1959)
29. Raging Bull (Martin Scorsese, 1980)
28. Pulp Fiction (Quentin Tarantino, 1994)
27. Barry Lyndon (Stanley Kubrick, 1975)
26. Killer of Sheep (Charles Burnett, 1978)
25. Do the Right Thing (Spike Lee, 1989)
24. The Apartment (Billy Wilder, 1960)
23. Annie Hall (Woody Allen, 1977)
22. Greed (Erich von Stroheim, 1924)
21. Mulholland Drive (David Lynch, 2001)
20. Goodfellas (Martin Scorsese, 1990)
19. Taxi Driver (Martin Scorsese, 1976)
18. City Lights (Charlie Chaplin, 1931)
17. The Gold Rush (Charlie Chaplin, 1925)
16. McCabe & Mrs Miller (Robert Altman, 1971)
15. The Best Years of Our Lives (William Wyler, 1946)
14. Nashville (Robert Altman, 1975)
13. North by Northwest (Alfred Hitchcock, 1959)
12. Chinatown (Roman Polanski, 1974)
11. The Magnificent Ambersons (Orson Welles, 1942)
10. The Godfather Part II (Francis Ford Coppola, 1974)
9. Casablanca (Michael Curtiz, 1942)
8. Psycho (Alfred Hitchcock, 1960)
7. Singin' in the Rain (Stanley Donen and Gene Kelly, 1952)
6. Sunrise (FW Murnau, 1927)
5. The Searchers (John Ford, 1956)
4. 2001: A Space Odyssey (Stanley Kubrick, 1968)
3. Vertigo (Alfred Hitchcock, 1958)
2. The Godfather (Francis Ford Coppola, 1972)
1. Citizen Kane (Orson Welles, 1941)
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Some great picks and some very puzzling ones.
The Magnificent Ambersons, unless the original cut is unearthed someday, is not the 11th best american film of all time. There's some truly amazing stuff in it, but it's too much butchered.
Mullholand Drive isn't the best David Lynch film. Not by a long shot.
Lots of films in there on reputation only. Casablanca is a very good film, but not one of the 10 best american films of all time. It's not even the best Bogart film. Ditto with The Gold Rush. City Lights is a true masterpiece, though.
Won't look too deep in the list becasue I'm supposed to be busy and I could talk about this all day :wacko:
Tracksuits will be disappointed: no Scarface (1983) there.
A bit surprised, in a good way, at Heaven's Gate late recognition (98). More surprising is the absence of Buster Keaton's The General (Sherlock Jr?) or any Harold Lloyd.
As for The Lion King (86), after the plagiarism controvery is a bit hard to take seriously cf. Kimba the White Lion, the Japanese cartoon/ANIME! that more than inspired it.
They went for safety with Citizen Kane as n° 1 but can't argue with that since there's an Orson Welles retrospective at the Cinémathèque anyways.
Not the worst list, I have seen worse.
PS: I see 2001 as a British flick but yeah it's a UK-US production.
Quote from: Syt on July 21, 2015, 04:51:08 AM
23. Annie Hall (Woody Allen, 1977)
21. Mulholland Drive (David Lynch, 2001)
15. The Best Years of Our Lives (William Wyler, 1946)
14. Nashville (Robert Altman, 1975)
7. Singin' in the Rain (Stanley Donen and Gene Kelly, 1952)
These are all way too high. Nashville and Best Years of Our Lives are boring as heck and shouldn't be on the list at all.
Quote from: Duque de Bragança on July 21, 2015, 05:13:04 AM
More surprising is the absence of Buster Keaton's The General (Sherlock Jr?) or any Harold Lloyd.
I suppose when you get down to it, few people are going to include a silent movie among their ten favorites.
Best Days of Our Lives is the kind of film that I would never watch but I can't stop admiring the craft in it.
So just two films out of the last ten years and five out of the last twenty years? I always wonder if people actually watch all those movies from the 1920s or whatever. A lot of old films just look dated to me.
What do they mean by best?
Birth of a Nation, due to it's groundbreaking nature may be one of the most influential films of all time, but how could anyone call it the 39th best American film of all time!? :huh:
Pretty arty list.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on July 21, 2015, 07:05:11 AM
Pretty arty list.
It was made by international film critics.
Just noticed there's no Blade Runner. Burn this list. KILL IT WITH FIRE.
Quote from: celedhring on July 21, 2015, 07:25:48 AM
Just noticed there's no Blade Runner. Burn this list. KILL IT WITH FIRE.
Another list missing Blade Runner- Best pic nominees in 1983:
Gandhi
ET
Missing
Tootsie
The Verdict :yawn:
Quote from: celedhring on July 21, 2015, 05:04:53 AM
Some great picks and some very puzzling ones.
The Magnificent Ambersons, unless the original cut is unearthed someday, is not the 11th best american film of all time. There's some truly amazing stuff in it, but it's too much butchered.
The same could be said for "Greed" at number 22.
Quote from: Zanza on July 21, 2015, 06:10:45 AM
I always wonder if people actually watch all those movies from the 1920s or whatever.
:unsure:
Quote from: celedhring on July 21, 2015, 05:04:53 AM
Casablanca is a very good film, but not one of the 10 best american films of all time. It's not even the best Bogart film.
I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.
No Zhivago or Usual Suspects eh? Oh well.
Quote from: Savonarola on July 21, 2015, 08:01:53 AM
Quote from: Zanza on July 21, 2015, 06:10:45 AM
I always wonder if people actually watch all those movies from the 1920s or whatever.
:unsure:
Talkies really ruined pictures.
Quote from: Savonarola on July 21, 2015, 08:01:53 AM
Quote from: Zanza on July 21, 2015, 06:10:45 AM
I always wonder if people actually watch all those movies from the 1920s or whatever.
:unsure:
:lol:
Quote from: Valmy on July 21, 2015, 08:16:20 AM
Quote from: Savonarola on July 21, 2015, 08:01:53 AM
Quote from: Zanza on July 21, 2015, 06:10:45 AM
I always wonder if people actually watch all those movies from the 1920s or whatever.
:unsure:
Talkies really ruined pictures.
Used to be silent versions of talkies as well for a while. Speaking of which, they forgot All Quiet on the Western Front! Absolutely appalling. :mad:
The list is insane.
Quote from: The Brain on July 21, 2015, 09:51:38 AM
The list is insane.
Indeed. Not a single Coen Brothers movie, but the incredibly pretentious
Koyaanisqatsi and the downright boring
Close Encounters.. make it? I mean, lots of choices are rightly debatable in terms of their order in the list, but some of the choices are inexplicable.
Of course, this is the BBC, so who knows what objectives they had when creating the list.
I didn't know there were two Steve McQueens. Also, five Billy Wilder films?
I've seen 29 out of those. Eternal Sunshine... that was a boring and stupid movie, über predictable beyond belief.
Quote from: viper37 on July 21, 2015, 07:21:39 PM
I've seen 29 out of those. Eternal Sunshine... that was a boring and stupid movie, über predictable beyond belief.
Boring and stupid are subjective so I'll let them slide, but predictable? That movie had surprises at every turn. Just having the hero end up with the girl at the end doesn't make a movie predictable.
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on July 21, 2015, 07:28:04 PM
Quote from: viper37 on July 21, 2015, 07:21:39 PM
I've seen 29 out of those. Eternal Sunshine... that was a boring and stupid movie, über predictable beyond belief.
Boring and stupid are subjective so I'll let them slide, but predictable? That movie had surprises at every turn. Just having the hero end up with the girl at the end doesn't make a movie predictable.
I think I saw the movie you saw. It was very surreal at times and certainly not predictable. The one viper saw may have been some Canadian version recut to a ten-minute loop and then replayed nine times.
Quote from: The Brain on July 21, 2015, 09:51:38 AM
The list is insane.
These lists almost always suck and generate arguments.
I think that is their real purpose anyway.
Syt posted a site that had "One Hundred Films You Have to Watch Before You Die" that I thought was pretty good.
Quote from: Tonitrus on July 21, 2015, 08:37:11 PM
Quote from: The Brain on July 21, 2015, 09:51:38 AM
The list is insane.
These lists almost always suck and generate arguments.
I think that is their real purpose anyway.
It's better then a lot of lists, but Yi is right, it is pretentious. I guess it since it's BBC it favors British sensibilities so there is a lot of Hitchcock and Kubrik, but no John Huston films (well Chinatown but he doesn't direct that one). I'm guessing that because it's Americans films Lawrence of Arabia is cut out. I honestly thought there was some American involvement. That one with the funny Indian name, I have no idea why anyone consider it great anything.
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on July 21, 2015, 07:28:04 PM
Quote from: viper37 on July 21, 2015, 07:21:39 PM
I've seen 29 out of those. Eternal Sunshine... that was a boring and stupid movie, über predictable beyond belief.
Boring and stupid are subjective so I'll let them slide, but predictable? That movie had surprises at every turn. Just having the hero end up with the girl at the end doesn't make a movie predictable.
it's been done 100s of times in sci-fi already. there's no real surprise there. There's a lot of emotive manipulation, and I can see why it's entertaining to some people.
I have watched 89 films from that list :nerd:
Eternal Sunshine is amazing. Great use of scifi and surrealism to tell an emotional story in an unconventional way.
Not shabby, my count is only 63.
I'm at 41. Glad to see Rio Bravo on the list. I love that movie. :wub:
64. I missed some of the most recent ones.
Quote from: katmai on July 22, 2015, 02:03:04 AM
Not shabby, my count is only 63.
Probably half of them were in the mandatory watching list we had at film school, so there's that.
Admittedly I used to watch some of the silent films in fast forward and stopping to read the captions. I have watched them properly since!
74 :nerd:
I've never seen citizen Kane. Strikes me as one of those where if I did watch it it would now seem cliche and lame.
The list includes back to the future and Groundhog Day thus has some validity
Quote from: Tyr on July 22, 2015, 03:11:53 AM
I've never seen citizen Kane. Strikes me as one of those where if I did watch it it would now seem cliche and lame.
Even if the puzzle structure and the "rise and fall of a great man" theme have been reused a lot, the camerawork is still stunning in this day and age.
11 :P
Quote from: Razgovory on July 21, 2015, 06:38:21 PMAlso, five Billy Wilder films?
Still not enough. No "One, Two, Three!". :glare:
I saw 29 movies on the list
but this is a Bullshit list since Shawshank Redemption is not #3.
I spent way too long fascinated with the GIF in the OP. :blush:
I have seen 23, and that number would be larger if I would actually watch the 20 or so on my to-do list. :P
I concur that the list is really odd, though. The strangest thing is that it doesn't seem very cohesive. I can't think of a single interpretation of "best" that would cover all these as a group.
Quote from: Baron von Schtinkenbutt on July 23, 2015, 10:15:06 AM
I have seen 23, and that number would be larger if I would actually watch the 20 or so on my to-do list. :P
I concur that the list is really odd, though. The strangest thing is that it doesn't seem very cohesive. I can't think of a single interpretation of "best" that would cover all these as a group.
That's what you get when you ask 62 people across the world for their "10 best American movies" :P
Quote from: celedhring on July 22, 2015, 01:54:28 AM
I have watched 89 films from that list :nerd:
Eternal Sunshine is amazing. Great use of scifi and surrealism to tell an emotional story in an unconventional way.
I haven't seen it in a while, But I remember being extremely put off by the lack of imagination regarding the world in which fast, cheap, and reliable memory surgery exists. It's like the production design opposite of Gattaca, which posited a future world on the cheap but still felt real. I do like it, need to rewatch to see if its cult has a point.
Any list without The General is nonsense. Pretty sure I didn't see Phantom of the Opera either.
Quote from: Ideologue on July 23, 2015, 11:04:38 AM
Any list without The General is nonsense.
And yet it does have Sherlock Jr. :huh:
Btw I've seen 62, altho I'm counting Nashville, which I quit an hour in because it's unbearably dull and Grey Gardens, which I sort of three-quarters watched with my girlfriend. Crazy broads were feeding a raccoon. Not remotely great cinema.
Other notes: Marnie? I like that movie, but that's retarded; also not that sanguine about Notorious, which I even kinda love. Blow Out is way better than The Conversation. I'm happy to see Eyes Wide Shut get some love. 12 Years a Slave gets beaten by GWTW, lame. And no Gravity breaks my heart. And Lion King but no Clements and Musker is a fucking joke.
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on July 23, 2015, 11:07:49 AM
Quote from: Ideologue on July 23, 2015, 11:04:38 AM
Any list without The General is nonsense.
And yet it does have Sherlock Jr. :huh:
Nobody drives a train off a bridge in that movie. I'd also like to have seen Terminator 2.
I think I've watched 9
It's nice to see In A Lonely Place on the list. Gloria is adorable even with that quasi-speech impediment she had.
46, 47 if I count Citizen Kane which I gave up on.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on July 23, 2015, 05:17:18 PM
46, 47 if I count Citizen Kane which I gave up on.
:o
Citizen Kane is not a movie, it's a treatise on camera angles and lighting.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on July 23, 2015, 05:23:12 PM
Citizen Kane is not a movie, it's a treatise on camera angles and lighting.
:mad: :glare:
Quote from: Admiral Yi on July 23, 2015, 05:23:12 PM
Citizen Kane is not a movie, it's a treatise on camera angles and lighting.
:ultra:
:homestar:
Cel won. Watching the movies on this list beats watching cartoons about magic girls and churning butter or however Max spent his youth. :P
I stopped at Heaven's Gate. Right there I knew this list was going to suck.
I've seen 33 of 'em. But to get to 33, I have to count some that I half-watched on TV while doing something else, and 1 (McCabe and Mrs. Miller) that I know I saw but don't remember a dang thing about. OTOH, it's possible that there are some others that I saw a long, long time ago and don't even remember seeing.
Quote from: Ideologue on July 23, 2015, 11:04:38 AM
Quote from: celedhring on July 22, 2015, 01:54:28 AM
I have watched 89 films from that list :nerd:
Eternal Sunshine is amazing. Great use of scifi and surrealism to tell an emotional story in an unconventional way.
I haven't seen it in a while, But I remember being extremely put off by the lack of imagination regarding the world in which fast, cheap, and reliable memory surgery exists. It's like the production design opposite of Gattaca, which posited a future world on the cheap but still felt real. I do like it, need to rewatch to see if its cult has a point.
Any list without The General is nonsense. Pretty sure I didn't see Phantom of the Opera either.
That's because Gattaca is a story about that world, and the characters imprisoned by its rules. Eternal Sunshine is a story about the two lovers and the machine is just a plot device to enable it. Trying to set up the world - and then not use it - would be a waste.
I've seen 60 from the list. I gave up on watching an additional one, "Greed" because the print I had was so terrible. I see that now there is a better print available now on Youtube.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on July 23, 2015, 05:17:18 PM
46, 47 if I count Citizen Kane which I gave up on.
:o
Man I just do not get why people don't love Citizen Kane. I mean I generally dislike old movies but that one is brilliant.
Quote from: Drakken on July 23, 2015, 08:57:08 PM
I stopped at Heaven's Gate. Right there I knew this list was going to suck.
I've never seen it but someone I know did and said it was shockingly good.
btw I think they left Patton off of this list by mistake. :hmm:
BRAD HOW THE HELL ARE YA
Quote from: Caliga on July 24, 2015, 12:48:34 PM
Quote from: Drakken on July 23, 2015, 08:57:08 PM
I stopped at Heaven's Gate. Right there I knew this list was going to suck.
I've never seen it but someone I know did and said it was shockingly good.
The complete version is really slow; it takes 90 minutes to establish that the three protagonists know each other. Many of the scenes are impressive, but there is nowhere near enough story to justify the run time.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on July 21, 2015, 06:50:39 AM
What do they mean by best?
Birth of a Nation, due to it's groundbreaking nature may be one of the most influential films of all time, but how could anyone call it the 39th best American film of all time!? :huh:
It features not one, but two thrilling just-in-time rescues. Elsie must decide between her love of Ben or her loyalty to her father. There's glory and tragedy on the battlefield, the tyranny of Reconstruction, virtuous heroines, lusty villains and Abraham Lincoln. This film has it all.
;)
In my opinion, Griffith's great gift was knowing when to start building towards the climax, how long to hold the tension, when to break it and (most importantly) when to end the film. I don't think anyone has ever done that better. Personally I think "Broken Blossoms" is the better movie (and maybe "Orphans on the Storm" and "Intolerance" as well) but "The Birth of a Nation" is far and away his best known work.
Quote from: Savonarola on July 24, 2015, 01:00:30 PM
Quote from: Caliga on July 24, 2015, 12:48:34 PM
Quote from: Drakken on July 23, 2015, 08:57:08 PM
I stopped at Heaven's Gate. Right there I knew this list was going to suck.
I've never seen it but someone I know did and said it was shockingly good.
The complete version is really slow; it takes 90 minutes to establish that the three protagonists know each other. Many of the scenes are impressive, but there is nowhere near enough story to justify the run time.
You're right about that. There's scenes that don't really begin until you've seen a bunch of extras riding around or doing settler stuff or drinking for like minutes. But for some reason I love that. It's such a painstakingly vivid reconstruction of that time and place...
For those who like it a bit more concise, Brad Jones aka Cinema Snob has a three part review (running ca. an hour):
http://channelawesome.com/the-cinema-snob-heavens-gate-part-1/
http://channelawesome.com/the-cinema-snob-heavens-gate-part-2/
http://channelawesome.com/the-cinema-snob-heavens-gate-part-3/
Quote from: Syt on July 24, 2015, 01:35:15 PM
For those who like it a bit more concise, Brad Jones aka Cinema Snob has a three part review (running ca. an hour):
http://channelawesome.com/the-cinema-snob-heavens-gate-part-1/
http://channelawesome.com/the-cinema-snob-heavens-gate-part-2/
http://channelawesome.com/the-cinema-snob-heavens-gate-part-3/
My god, a movie review that is almost as long as some movies. :lol:
How can there possibly be so much to say? Not gonna watch to find out.
Incidentally, one of the producers of the movie was one of my teachers at Columbia. He still was traumatized.
His book about the production of the film is pretty damn great, by the way, if you enjoy trainwreck tales.
http://www.amazon.com/Final-Cut-Making-Heavens-Artists/dp/1557043744
Quote from: Malthus on July 24, 2015, 01:37:33 PM
My god, a movie review that is almost as long as some movies. :lol:
Not really that unusual on the internet. Some people really love movies and want to dig deep.
Quote from: Valmy on July 24, 2015, 01:40:09 PM
Quote from: Malthus on July 24, 2015, 01:37:33 PM
My god, a movie review that is almost as long as some movies. :lol:
Not really that unusual on the internet. Some people really love movies and want to dig deep.
But I exceed 2000 words and I'm history's greatest monster.
Not to me I really enjoy your reviews.
:hug:
I do like Brad Jones, but a big issue with a lot of his fellow video reviewers is how quickly their reviews become comedy sketch shows, inflating the runtime and rarely being good at both since they're radically different skill sets. And being a bad comedian is much more grating than being a bad critic, too.
Quote from: Malthus on July 24, 2015, 01:37:33 PM
Quote from: Syt on July 24, 2015, 01:35:15 PM
For those who like it a bit more concise, Brad Jones aka Cinema Snob has a three part review (running ca. an hour):
http://channelawesome.com/the-cinema-snob-heavens-gate-part-1/
http://channelawesome.com/the-cinema-snob-heavens-gate-part-2/
http://channelawesome.com/the-cinema-snob-heavens-gate-part-3/
My god, a movie review that is almost as long as some movies. :lol:
How can there possibly be so much to say? Not gonna watch to find out.
It involves shenanigans and cameos (it's his 300th review). I think you watched Moment by Moment based on his review. :P
Quote from: Syt on July 24, 2015, 01:35:15 PM
For those who like it a bit more concise, Brad Jones aka Cinema Snob has a three part review (running ca. an hour):
BRAD HOW THE HELL ARE YA
Quote from: Ideologue on July 24, 2015, 01:51:19 PM
I do like Brad Jones, but a big issue with a lot of his fellow video reviewers is how quickly their reviews become comedy sketch shows, inflating the runtime and rarely being good at both since they're radically different skill sets. And being a bad comedian is much more grating than being a bad critic, too.
He and SF Debris are about the only ones I still watch (and Linkara's comic reviews). I like Oancitizen, but am too lazy to follow his Blip account. :P
Linkara lost me hard and is the one I hold up as an example of problems with the form. He's a decent comic book critic, albeit overly concerned with fan rage, but when his reviews ballooned into really amateurish comic skits with vestigial criticism, I had to bail.
I still liked Spooky but his nervous breakdown-thing and the attendant absence got me out of the habit. Plus by the end of that period he could be kind of upsetting to watch, since he famously had no filter and had a penchant for getting drunk on camera.
Quote from: Ideologue on July 24, 2015, 02:10:46 PM
Linkara lost me hard and is the one I hold up as an example of problems with the form. He's a decent comic book critic, albeit overly concerned with fan rage, but when his reviews ballooned into really amateurish comic skits with vestigial criticism, I had to bail.
I don't care for those, either, but he keeps them away from his reviews now, either after the review finishes, or after the credits, so I find them easy to avoid. If there's something at the start I skip through it to the main review. And I feel he does it much less often these days.
QuoteI still liked Spooky but his nervous breakdown-thing and the attendant absence got me out of the habit. Plus by the end of that period he could be kind of upsetting to watch, since he famously had no filter and had a penchant for getting drunk on camera.
I don't think I've ever watched him.
Phone auto corrected away from "Spoony." Altho maybe you caught that. :P
I need to catch up with Todd in the Shadows someday.
Oh, Spoony. Yeah, never watched him much. I liked Obscurus Lupa, but she seems to have left Channel Awesome.
Obscurus Lupa did a wonderful hilarious comic "review" on the show that was a bane to my existence at the University of Texas gym for nine years: Charmed. It was always on right in front of the machine I used virtually 24/7. The sound was turned off so I could never hear it but somehow I still was horrified at how stupid it was. The only good thing I could say about it was that Rose McGowan was super hot.
Spoony has not done any video game reviews for ages. Every once in a while he will do a Final Fantasy review which I find hilarious. Granted I only ever played the first one on my NES. His Ultima series is fantastic though. Pity.
Todd in the Shadows is my fav though I always watch his stuff. It is funny and well done and enables me to talk to teenagers. Important skills moving forward.
Oh, I sat down and figured out how many of these I've actually seen. Only 14- and the only one in the top ten was 2001. :blush:
The only one in the top 10 that I have seen is Casablanca. I thought it was boring :blush:
16 for me, maybe 17. I don't remember if I have seen the original Psycho or not.
Was there a remake of Psycho in the 80s? I swear I can remember watching one but I can't find anything about it anywhere. :hmm:
There was a remake in the 90s with Vince Vaughn and Anne Heche.
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on July 25, 2015, 09:29:18 AM
There was a remake in the 90s with Vince Vaughn and Anne Heche.
There were a bunch of (terrible) Psycho sequels in the 80s, maybe he meant that.
The one I am thinking about was definitely earlier than that.
I wonder how many other memories I have are not real.
EDIT: Maybe it was Psycho II. The plot synopsis sounds vaguely familiar but that was a long time ago.
28 that I remember seeing, but while counting up the numbers I noticed "Eyes Wide Shut" made the list. Really?
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28 that I remember seeing, but while counting up the numbers I noticed "Eyes Wide Shut" made the list. Really?
I think it's a surprising addition, but a justified one.
I mean, damn, if Lyndon can make it... :P
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Quote from: alfred russel on July 25, 2015, 11:49:23 AM
28 that I remember seeing, but while counting up the numbers I noticed "Eyes Wide Shut" made the list. Really?
I think it's a surprising addition, but a justified one.
I mean, damn, if Lyndon can make it... :P
Barry Lyndon is one of my favorite movies. :)
Better Kubrick films were omitted (such as Clockwork Orange).
I know it hasn't held up well for a variety of reasons, but my grandparents would be incredulous that Gone with the Wind is so far down the list.
Don't get me wrong. I kind of love Barry Lyndon, but it's pretty easily his weakest non-disavowed film, other than Lolita, of course. (And substantially weaker than one of the films he did disavowed, Spartacus.) But despite the gorgeous photography and a story that isn't nearly as boring as people say, I still think placement on a Top 100 list is pretty completely unjustified. I mean, seriously, Barry Lyndon but not a single De Palma film? (I just rewatched Mission: Impossible. :wub: )
DePalma :x
Scarface, Carlito, Untouchables?
Fucker probably doesn't even like Carrie! :P
Of 29 features, I've seen 18, 11 are great or close enough, and a couple of others are still pretty good. Passion is really bad, and Sisters isn't recommendable, but then you've got M:I, Blow Out, Body Double, Phantom of the Paradise, and others, in addition to the aforementioned films.
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Better Kubrick films were omitted (such as Clockwork Orange).
Wasn't A Clockwork Orange a British production?
Quote from: Ideologue on July 25, 2015, 10:57:14 PM
Fucker probably doesn't even like Carrie! :P
Of 29 features, I've seen 18, 11 are great or close enough, and a couple of others are still pretty good. Passion is really bad, and Sisters isn't recommendable, but then you've got M:I, Blow Out, Body Double, Phantom of the Paradise, and others, in addition to the aforementioned films.
You have shite taste.
You and my girlfriend are both actively bad people.
Quote from: Ideologue on July 26, 2015, 01:40:48 AM
You and my girlfriend are both actively bad people.
I agree, we both consort with you.
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Quote from: alfred russel on July 25, 2015, 12:40:47 PM
Better Kubrick films were omitted (such as Clockwork Orange).
Wasn't A Clockwork Orange a British production?
By the same metric, so was Barry Lyndon. Both films were paid by Warner Bros at the end of the day.
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Quote from: dps on July 26, 2015, 12:26:18 AM
Quote from: alfred russel on July 25, 2015, 12:40:47 PM
Better Kubrick films were omitted (such as Clockwork Orange).
Wasn't A Clockwork Orange a British production?
By the same metric, so was Barry Lyndon. Both films were paid by Warner Bros at the end of the day.
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Oscar Shamed As BBC List Of 100 Greatest American Films Largely Ignores Academy's Best Picture Winners And Nominees
Hey Oscar voters, the BBC Culture poll has just dissed you – BIG TIME. Do you care?
In a comprehensive new poll of the 100 Greatest American Films of all time, released this week by BBC Culture, only a measly 12 Academy Award
winning Best Pictures turn up at all, and only 8 of them in the top 75. Worse than that statistic for the lasting influence of the Academy's Best Picture choices, according to this poll, a whopping 60, count 'em, 60 other movies mentioned were not even nominated for Best Picture. Gone With The Wind, considered the benchmark of all Oscar winning Best Pictures, barely made the list at number 97,
just one notch above Heaven's Gate, the 1980 western that was a notorious disaster at the time but is clearly getting a second look. Ouch. Interestingly Michael Cimino's one and only Best Picture winner, The Deer Hunter was AWOL, so take this all with a grain of salt, Academy. Perhaps it is choices like that one that have made this list the subject of much controversy and venom in the last few days. I thought it might be interesting to compare the BBC list to the record of the Academy in awarding Best Picture throughout their history.
The poll, taken among 62 international film critics, was commissioned also "to get a global perspective on American film" from critics around the
world. Since Oscar has been seen as a symbol of ultimate quality in foreign markets for decades, the results here show Academy voters over the course of the organization's near 90 years have not chosen films for their top prize that measure up with the passage of time compared to others they bypassed or completely overlooked. That is of course according to this talked-about poll which has gotten lots of traction and internet buzz, setting off debates on the merits of the American movies that made the cut, and those that didn't. "American movie" is defined by BBC Culture as any film that received funding from a US source and not necessarily those by an American director. Such Oscar-winning Best Pictures as Lawrence Of Arabia, The Bridge On The River Kwai, Gandhi, or Tom Jones funded primarily outside the U.S. were apparently not eligible. And although no David Lean film is represented, 32 movies on the list were from directors not even born in the US.
Not surprising, really. Oscar tends to pick safe over interesting & new.
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"American movie" is defined by BBC Culture as any film that received funding from a US source and not necessarily those by an American director. Such Oscar-winning Best Pictures as Lawrence Of Arabia, The Bridge On The River Kwai, Gandhi, or Tom Jones funded primarily outside the U.S. were apparently not eligible. And although no David Lean film is represented, 32 movies on the list were from directors not even born in the US.
Given the way a lot of films are funded, particularly since the 70s, seems to me they would have needed to do a lot of research to establish that.
Fun fact, the Spanish government considers Fast and Furious 6 a Spanish movie, since they set up a temporary company in Spain to carry out the production in order to benefit from tax breaks. Faux-British productions used to be commonplace too.
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on July 26, 2015, 09:46:08 PM
Not surprising, really. Oscar tends to pick safe over interesting & new.
Yup, definitely.