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Did hipsters make it past 2010?

https://www.adbusters.org/magazine/79/hipster.html

Probably.  I don't know.  I don't have enough social contact to be a hipster.  I think I'm just a nerd.

According to wikipedia -

QuoteHipster is a term popularly used to denote an international subculture primarily consisting of white millennials living in urban areas.[1][2] The subculture has been described as a "mutating, trans-Atlantic melting pot of styles, tastes and behavior"[3] and is broadly associated with indie and alternative music, a varied non-mainstream fashion sensibility (including vintage and thrift store-bought clothes), generally third party independent political views, organic and artisanal foods, and alternative lifestyles.[4][5][6] Hipsters are typically described as affluent or middle class young Bohemians who reside in gentrifying neighborhoods.[7][8]

primarily consisting of white millennials - no

living in urban areas - yes

mutating, trans-Atlantic melting pot of styles, tastes and behavior - probably not

is broadly associated with indie and alternative music - not sure if my music taste is alternative, but my guess is not.

a varied non-mainstream fashion sensibility (including vintage and thrift store-bought clothes) - hell yes, especially the thrift store-bought clothes part

generally third party independent political views - kinda yes

organic and artisanal foods - yes

and alternative lifestyles - if staying home all day watching anime and playing computer games is an alternative lifestyle, then yes.

typically described as affluent or middle class - no way.

young Bohemians - I know where Bohemia is, not I don't think I should interpret the word in a traditional geographic sense.  My guess is no.

who reside in gentrifying neighborhoods - not really.

I have 5 yes out of 11.  So, no, I am probably not a hipster. 

I do have third party independent political views.

Dirty Hippies

Quote from: Ideologue on July 24, 2014, 08:52:47 PM
I do have third party independent political views.

I have NASDP views

Well, as long as we can agree on Lithuania and Finland, I don't see why we have to be aggressive toward each other.

Quote from: Ideologue on July 24, 2014, 09:00:29 PM
Well, as long as we can agree on Lithuania and Finland, I don't see why we have to be aggressive toward each other.

Plz send me raw materials.

I got 6 on Mono's list.

People do sometimes say I am trying to be a hipster but I was into many things hipsters like before it became cool to like them.... Which yes, is a very hipster thing to say, but true. On the the hand I haven't stopped liking stuff because it became too mainstream

I don't think I am.

Somebody here called me a proto-hipster once, I think it was Tonitrus.  :mad: I don't consider it hipsterism if I've been doing something for over 20 years.

Quote from: CountDeMoney on July 24, 2014, 10:27:11 PM
Somebody here called me a proto-hipster once, I think it was Tonitrus.  :mad: I don't consider it hipsterism if I've been doing something for over 20 years.

i never get any credit :( it's because of your typewriter :lol:

primarily consisting of white millennials - According to CdM, yes.  Though I was always called a Gen Xer growing up.

living in urban areas - No, not really.

mutating, trans-Atlantic melting pot of styles, tastes and behavior - I'm guessing no.

is broadly associated with indie and alternative music - That's kind of vague.  I'm partial to rock from the 1960's and 70's.

a varied non-mainstream fashion sensibility (including vintage and thrift store-bought clothes) - I bought my shoes at Wal-Mart and my closes come from a fat guy shop down by the lake.

generally third party independent political views - No.

organic and artisanal foods - No.

and alternative lifestyles - I suppose so, though the insane recluse lifestyle has always had adherents.

typically described as affluent or middle class - I don't even have job.

young Bohemians - No.

who reside in gentrifying neighborhoods - No.

Although I score 6 on Mono's list, I'm definitely not a hipster.

L.

I'm NOT a hipster, but I'll fill that checklist.


primarily consisting of white millennials - I was 21 in 2000, so I guess it's "almost".

living in urban areas - Yes, Barcelona

mutating, trans-Atlantic melting pot of styles, tastes and behavior - I haven't lived in the same city for 4 years straight since 2004, including a 4 year stint in NYC. I'm having bagels for breakfast and will make cous-cous for lunch. Tonight I'm attending a concert from a foreign band and tomorrow I'm attending a Catalan folk festival where some friends play. Oh fuck.

is broadly associated with indie and alternative music - I love lots of music, from opera to 70s rock. But nowadays I admit I'm a lot into indie since mainstream music is mostly shit. Wait, did I just say that? Oh crap...

a varied non-mainstream fashion sensibility (including vintage and thrift store-bought clothes) - I buy my clothes as cheap as possible, and that includes thrift stores indeed. And scarves. This isn't going well, isn't it?

generally third party independent political views - I haven't voted a mainstream party since 2004.

organic and artisanal foods - Yes. My mother is a tree-hugger and programmed me with a distaste for processed and non-organic foods.

and alternative lifestyles - I don't have an office job (I'm a freelancer) so my life is chaos and improvisation, which some people get to call "freedom". Does that count?

typically described as affluent or middle class - I would be a pauper in the US, but I'm middle class over here.

young Bohemians - I'm supposedly an artist, but I'm not young, only at hearth

who reside in gentrifying neighborhoods - Yes, I reside in Barcelona's premier hipsterish neighborhood actually... Fuck.


I'm really NOT a hipster. Fuck hipsters.

Quote from: HVC on July 24, 2014, 11:47:47 PM

Quote from: CountDeMoney on July 24, 2014, 10:27:11 PM
Somebody here called me a proto-hipster once, I think it was Tonitrus.  :mad: I don't consider it hipsterism if I've been doing something for over 20 years.

i never get any credit :( it's because of your typewriter :lol:

Oh God, I forgot about that shit.  Thank you for returning that to our attention.  Get it?  Return.  Ha-ha.  Christ.

Quote from: CountDeMoney on July 24, 2014, 10:27:11 PM
Somebody here called me a proto-hipster once, I think it was Tonitrus.  :mad: I don't consider it hipsterism if I've been doing something for over 20 years.

Agreed.

I hate hipsters who are but a subset of the bobo, THE class enemy.

Yes.

I am glad hipsters are around, they add to the local color.  But hipster I am not.

i don't like to go muddin or fishin or huntin or muskrat skinnin, and i'm a liberal atheist. so, maybe i'm a north dakota hipster  :Canuck:

Quote from: LaCroix on July 25, 2014, 12:55:52 PM
i don't like to go muddin or fishin or huntin or muskrat skinnin, and i'm a liberal atheist. so, maybe i'm a north dakota hipster  :Canuck:

There are other things to do in North Dakota?  :huh:

Quote from: Ed Anger on July 24, 2014, 08:57:42 PM

Quote from: Ideologue on July 24, 2014, 08:52:47 PM
I do have third party independent political views.

I have NASDP views

I have NASDAQ views

Quote from: Peter Wiggin on July 25, 2014, 12:57:49 PMThere are other things to do in North Dakota?  :huh:

sure! there are four great metropolises, two in the east and two in the west. each has at least a movie theater, library, and mall!

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I was proclaiming I wasn't a hipster *before* that was cool.

Quoteprimarily consisting of white millennials

- fuck no I hate white peeple

Quoteliving in urban areas

- yes

Quotemutating, trans-Atlantic melting pot of styles, tastes and behavior

- what the fuck does this mean???

Quoteis broadly associated with indie and alternative music

- I like music. I also like sex and breathing.

Quotea varied non-mainstream fashion sensibility (including vintage and thrift store-bought clothes)

- I wear clothes that fit and make it so I don't look like I woke up in a dumpster

Quotegenerally third party independent political views

- Third parties are for losers.

Quoteorganic and artisanal foods

- No that shit is nasty.

Quoteand alternative lifestyles

- I don't know what this means? Someone tell me what this means????

Quotetypically described as affluent or middle class

- I'm middle class and unlikely to make it further than that because I'm American.

Quoteyoung Bohemians

- I'm no Hitler.

Quotewho reside in gentrifying neighborhoods

- Nope, but I might be moving to one...?

Man what is up with all the tee totaling in Connecticut?  I mean Utah I get but Connecticut? 

Quote from: FunkMonk on July 25, 2014, 01:14:01 PM
- fuck no I hate white peeple

This is because of Mack Brown isn't it?

Quote from: Valmy on July 25, 2014, 01:17:16 PM

Quote from: FunkMonk on July 25, 2014, 01:14:01 PM
- fuck no I hate white peeple

This is because of Mack Brown isn't it?

55 - 17 :bleeding:
63 - 21 :bleeding:

Okay, I'll play.  I know I'm not but I like these things:

primarily consisting of white millennials - White Gen Xer, so no.

living in urban areas - No, but I work in and spend a lot of my leisure time in an urban area.

mutating, trans-Atlantic melting pot of styles, tastes and behavior - I guess so.

is broadly associated with indie and alternative music - I'm stuck in 90s Alternative and I'm still clueless as to what "indie" is supposed to mean, so I guess this one is a no.

a varied non-mainstream fashion sensibility (including vintage and thrift store-bought clothes) - No.  I'm too old to dress like a clown.

generally third party independent political views - Not really, no.

organic and artisanal foods - Artisanal, yes.  Organic, I don't avoid it but not particularly.

and alternative lifestyles - Nope.  I'm Ward Cleaver as far as that goes.

typically described as affluent or middle class - Middle class, but that's a very broad category.

young Bohemians - No, but I'm comfortable enough in that type of atmosphere.

who reside in gentrifying neighborhoods - No, but I spend a lot of time in one.

Quote from: Valmy on July 25, 2014, 01:16:03 PM
Man what is up with all the tee totaling in Connecticut?  I mean Utah I get but Connecticut? 

Because you aren't drinking if you aren't drinking beer?

primarily consisting of white millennials - Millennial, yes. Half-white.

living in urban areas - Yes

mutating, trans-Atlantic melting pot of styles, tastes and behavior - Yes

is broadly associated with indie and alternative music - no

a varied non-mainstream fashion sensibility (including vintage and thrift store-bought clothes) - No.

generally third party independent political views - No.

organic and artisanal foods - No. Keep it coming with the pesticides and GMOs.

and alternative lifestyles - It isn't a lifestyle, it's my sexual orientation. :angry:

typically described as affluent or middle class - Yes

young Bohemians - No.

who reside in gentrifying neighborhoods - No, my neighborhood is solidly gentrified.

So lots of crazy canucks in New York metro? Makes sense.

Quote from: Valmy on July 25, 2014, 01:16:03 PM
Man what is up with all the tee totaling in Connecticut?  I mean Utah I get but Connecticut?

Probably drinking alternatives to beer.

Quote from: frunk on July 25, 2014, 02:30:28 PM

Quote from: Valmy on July 25, 2014, 01:16:03 PM
Man what is up with all the tee totaling in Connecticut?  I mean Utah I get but Connecticut?

Probably drinking alternatives to beer.

Ok I asked for an explanation.  If it is true that they just love to drink whisky, wine, hard cider, and vodka in Connecticut and forgo beer at a rate that is the highest in the entire country for some bizarre reason that would be interesting.

Wine consumption-
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So New Hampshire residents just like drinking in general.

We're getting dangerously close to a soda map.

Man New Hampshire boozes it up like nobody else.

[spock]It would explain a great many things.[/spock]

While I was trying to find a Bourbon consumption map I ran across a map that shows each state's law re: underage drinking. 

I sort of knew that in Ohio & a few other states it was legal for a parent to give alcohol to a minor as long as the parent continued to supervise.  What I didn't know was that it is legal here for establishments to serve alcohol to a minor as long as said minor is accompanied by and supervised by a parent.

I'm guessing the number of establishments that are aware of this law and are brave enough to take advantage of it is close to zero.

Quote from: derspiess on July 25, 2014, 03:50:40 PM
I sort of knew that in Ohio & a few other states it was legal for a parent to give alcohol to a minor as long as the parent continued to supervise.

Those Garanimals don't come off by themselves.

THATS REAL RETARDED SIR

primarily consisting of white millennials:  White?  Yeah.  Millennial?  Not hardly.

living in urban areas:  Technically, yes, but certainly not in a major city.

mutating, trans-Atlantic melting pot of styles, tastes and behavior:  No idea what this even means, so probably not.

is broadly associated with indie and alternative music:  Not to a great extent--I'm more oriented to classic rock, hard rock, punk, and early heavy metal.

a varied non-mainstream fashion sensibility (including vintage and thrift store-bought clothes):  I don't think I even have any fashion sensibility at all.

generally third party independent political views:  No.

organic and artisanal foods:  No.

and alternative lifestyles:  No.

typically described as affluent or middle class:  Definately not affluent;  might be considered lower-middle class, but even that's probably a stretch.

young Bohemians:  Bohemian?  Possibly to a minor extent.  Young?  Nah, not any more.

who reside in gentrifying neighborhoods:  No.

Quote from: derspiess on July 25, 2014, 04:54:01 PM
THATS REAL RETARDED SIR

:D  Line's a keeper.

No mention of fixie bikes, low cut shirts or bushy beards in that checklist? Fails at superficiality.  :P

Quote from: The Larch on July 26, 2014, 05:14:07 AM
No mention of fixie bikes, low cut shirts or bushy beards in that checklist? Fails at superficiality.  :P

:secret: huge retro glasses as well.  :contract:

Quote from: The Larch on July 26, 2014, 05:14:07 AM
No mention of fixie bikes, low cut shirts or bushy beards in that checklist? Fails at superficiality.  :P

I tick one out of three of that, and two when I'm too much of a lazyarse to trim my beard :p. I'm too hairy to do low cut shirts.

Relevant for the London variant of hipsters. :p

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVmmYMwFj1I (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVmmYMwFj1I)

I'm not a hipster. But having said that I was describing them as hipsters way before anyone else - due to my exposure to US people :blush:

I have some similar tastes. I love coffee, craft beer and the Tour de France. I've read books on football tactics and have a decent collection of often obscure music (in my case though, on CD and of soul). I had a beard for most of the last year and my current address is Peckham, my last one was around Shoreditch. I love a silent movie screening. And I do shop in charity shops and I've danced with a drag queen in Dalston Superstore (home of the hipster gays). So there's, I'd say, a bit of an overlap.

But I don't like the snobbishness that I associate with many hipsters and hipsterishness. There's an exclusivity I like to think I don't do. I like all of these things and I want and hope that other people like them too. I always find with people I consider to be 'hip' a sort of desire to exclude people. Often the coffee geekiness isn't just about it's own tastiness, but reminds me of wine snobs.

Also, tragically, I shop in charity shops unironically :blush:

Edit: Also no-one has ever or, I think, would ever call me a hipster. I just don't look the part. I don't know if I could even if I tried. I'd always look like a fake hipster :bleeding:

God I've just realised my niche DVD collections (Giallo, kitchen sink drama, Ealing comedies) might be hipster-y :o :bleeding: :blush:

Fuck I love synths too! Although when I put Pet Shop Boys on at a hipstery party noone's happy <_<

Regarding music, is enjoying the brief career of Jobriath hipstery? :hmm:

Actually, just knowing who Jobriath was is probably hipstery. -_-

Quote from: CountDeMoney on July 24, 2014, 10:27:11 PM
Somebody here called me a proto-hipster once, I think it was Tonitrus.  :mad: I don't consider it hipsterism if I've been doing something for over 20 years.

I don't think that was me...

As with most of my tastes I think it's in that grey area between hipsters and Morrissey :lol:

Quote from: Sheilbh on July 26, 2014, 08:06:31 PM
As with most of my tastes I think it's in that grey area between hipsters and Morrissey :lol:

Oh God, that's even worse. :weep:

Don't be knocking Morrissey.  HE UNDERSTANDS.

Quote from: CountDeMoney on July 26, 2014, 09:04:00 PM
Don't be knocking Morrissey.  HE UNDERSTANDS.

figures you'd be a Morrissey fan :P

Since when loving Le Tour de France is hipster?  :blink:

Quote from: Duque de Bragança on July 27, 2014, 06:55:42 AM
Since when loving Le Tour de France is hipster?  :blink:

Yeah, how?  :hmm:

If you're American.

Quote from: Peter Wiggin on July 27, 2014, 08:43:55 AM
If you're American.

:yes:

same with americans who watch english premier league

Quote from: LaCroix on July 27, 2014, 10:17:15 AM

Quote from: Peter Wiggin on July 27, 2014, 08:43:55 AM
If you're American.

:yes:

same with americans who watch english premier league

:yeahright:

Quote from: FunkMonk on July 27, 2014, 03:42:34 PM

Quote from: LaCroix on July 27, 2014, 10:17:15 AM

Quote from: Peter Wiggin on July 27, 2014, 08:43:55 AM
If you're American.

:yes:

same with americans who watch english premier league

:yeahright:

Hipster!

:P As a NA fan the premier league is probably what most people watch.

Quote from: Duque de Bragança on July 27, 2014, 06:55:42 AM
Since when loving Le Tour de France is hipster?  :blink:

In England. Rapha shops serving ristretto double espressos to people watching the Tour.

It's a relatively recently popular thing.

When I was in London last week there was this bike themed coffee shop (ironically named "Look mum no hands") in Islington that I went to twice. Definitely hipsterish, it even had a bike workshop attached to the coffee place. And they showed the Tour de France every day.

Quote from: The Larch on July 27, 2014, 05:03:28 PM
When I was in London last week there was this bike themed coffee shop (ironically named "Look mum no hands") in Islington that I went to twice. Definitely hipsterish, it even had a bike workshop attached to the coffee place. And they showed the Tour de France every day.

Lovely little cafe.

The bike/coffee shop combo is very cool right now. Two opened down the road from me in the space of a week :lol:

Edit: And apparently Look mum no hands! have now also got places on the South Bank, in Hackney and a pop-up in a Le Coq Sportif shop :lol:

Edit: Also I remember two-three years ago looking for somewhere to watch the Tour in London and Look mum no hands! was the only bar. Now it's very common in hip places.

Quote from: Sheilbh on July 27, 2014, 05:13:08 PM

Quote from: The Larch on July 27, 2014, 05:03:28 PM
When I was in London last week there was this bike themed coffee shop (ironically named "Look mum no hands") in Islington that I went to twice. Definitely hipsterish, it even had a bike workshop attached to the coffee place. And they showed the Tour de France every day.

Lovely little cafe.

The bike/coffee shop combo is very cool right now. Two opened down the road from me in the space of a week :lol:

Edit: And apparently Look mum no hands! have now also got places on the South Bank, in Hackney and a pop-up in a Le Coq Sportif shop :lol:

Edit: Also I remember two-three years ago looking for somewhere to watch the Tour in London and Look mum no hands! was the only bar. Now it's very common in hip places.

Oh Dear, on several levels.

Quote from: mongers on July 28, 2014, 05:45:49 AM

Oh Dear, on several levels.

Don't worry, it will pass soon enough.

Quote from: Sheilbh on July 27, 2014, 05:13:08 PM

Quote from: The Larch on July 27, 2014, 05:03:28 PM
When I was in London last week there was this bike themed coffee shop (ironically named "Look mum no hands") in Islington that I went to twice. Definitely hipsterish, it even had a bike workshop attached to the coffee place. And they showed the Tour de France every day.

Lovely little cafe.

The bike/coffee shop combo is very cool right now. Two opened down the road from me in the space of a week :lol:

Edit: And apparently Look mum no hands! have now also got places on the South Bank, in Hackney and a pop-up in a Le Coq Sportif shop :lol:

Edit: Also I remember two-three years ago looking for somewhere to watch the Tour in London and Look mum no hands! was the only bar. Now it's very common in hip places.

Whitehorse was ahead of this particular curve.  There was/is a long-standing bike shop that opened a coffee roaster / bar in the back.  So you'd walk past the racks of bikes and accessories to go get your pound of beans. :Canuck:

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 :rolleyes: What kind of nebbish hasn't heard of post glam speed folk?

Me. :( I didn't realize speed folk had left glam behind. :(