Since Phil is getting his first ticket, I was wondering how the rest of you guys drive. I have gotten one, for speeding back in 2001. I think I payed around $100. I've been pulled over since then, but never got a ticket or anything.
2 speeding tickets in California. I think I once had a reckless driving ticket but it disappeared.
Got a speeding ticket in 2010, my first since high school.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 23, 2013, 09:23:01 PM
Got a speeding ticket in 2010, my first since high school.
And now your are in college. Maybe your life is on repeat.
One in the past decade. Fucking Greene County deputy didn't care for my attitude. I WAS BEING NICE YOU PRICK. He didn't like my Challenger, damn asshole.
Quote from: Razgovory on September 23, 2013, 09:25:07 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 23, 2013, 09:23:01 PM
Got a speeding ticket in 2010, my first since high school.
And now your are in college. Maybe your life is on repeat.
Ain't that the truth.
4. Two no-point generic violations, a speeding ticket, and driving uninsured (thank you, being too poor to afford paying car insurance on time).
I dunno. Why're you so fucking curious?
I liked your post with the SLED reference before you edited it. You reprobate.
I've only ever had two speeding tickets in my 30 years of driving, and I got them within a month of each other two years ago. Champaign went through and lowered the speeding limits on a bunch of street, then set up cops around town to enforce the new limits. :glare:
Quote from: Ideologue on September 23, 2013, 09:30:55 PM
I dunno. Why're you so fucking curious?
Consider it a hobby, Hunter A.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 23, 2013, 09:36:45 PM
I liked your post with the SLED reference before you edited it. You reprobate.
I thought maybe people wouldn't get it. I appreciate that you did. :)
SCLED just wouldn't sing.
I got a warning when I got pulled over a few weeks ago on I-89 in Vermont for supposedly going 80 in a 65. :blink: I thought only attractive young women got warnings. I was very polite, but I wasn't especially cooperative.
EDIT: Otherwise, certain events may or may not have transpired in Nassau County, N.Y. and Knox County, Tn., but Allstate doesn't want to know about them, and neither do I.
Quote from: garbon on September 23, 2013, 09:21:08 PM
2 speeding tickets in California. I think I once had a reckless driving ticket but it disappeared.
Don't know how long ago the reckless driving was, but you might want to follow up on it. Those can get quasi-criminal in nature, even if states don't do a good job reporting them to each other.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 23, 2013, 09:44:58 PM
SCLED just wouldn't sing.
Actually, thinking on it, you won't pull up moving violations on SLED anyway, except for the high proof kind.
The seriously answer to the question is "around eight," but only one in the past decade or so. Couple of seatbelt violations too.
SWEET ZOMBIE MOHAMMAD!
3
In chronological order :
Ignoring a stop sign - 3 points
Speeding of 40 kmh over the limit - 6 points
and something I don't know how to say in english but is worth 9 points.
:bleeding:
There's no 12 point infractions so I think I've maxed this out.
3 in my lifetime. 1 for speeding (50 in a 35 at 2 AM), 2 for "driving too closely" which is cop-talk for tapping someone on the bumper at a low speed. Didn't do any damage, but they still love writing out more tickets.
Quote from: Habbaku on September 23, 2013, 09:57:51 PM
2 for "driving too closely" which is cop-talk for tapping someone on the bumper at a low speed. Didn't do any damage, but they still love writing out more tickets.
:lol: Dude, you just can't do that.
Chick whose insurance generously decided to contribute to my Emergency Fund got a ticket for following too closely. :)
None.
Pulled over once for doing 43 in 35, they had me do the whole sobriety test as it was 5am.
And pulled over for expired tags, but wasn't my car, I was just driving.
Just two.
One was a speeding (doing 90km in a 60)
One was for drinking but not being drunk enough to get charged, but we'll suspend your license for 12 hours.
The good that came out of that last one is that I never have a single drink if I know i"m gonna be driving.
Quote from: Capetan Mihali on September 23, 2013, 09:47:54 PM
Quote from: garbon on September 23, 2013, 09:21:08 PM
2 speeding tickets in California. I think I once had a reckless driving ticket but it disappeared.
Don't know how long ago the reckless driving was, but you might want to follow up on it. Those can get quasi-criminal in nature, even if states don't do a good job reporting them to each other.
It was a long time ago and they said they were dropping it...both of which are why the details are hazy.
None. Never been pulled over.
Quote from: katmai on September 23, 2013, 10:00:02 PM
None.
Pulled over once for doing 43 in 35, they had me do the whole sobriety test as it was 5am.
Don't do the FSTs!
Quote from: Capetan Mihali on September 23, 2013, 10:04:08 PM
Quote from: katmai on September 23, 2013, 10:00:02 PM
None.
Pulled over once for doing 43 in 35, they had me do the whole sobriety test as it was 5am.
Don't do the FSTs!
I was sober with nothing to hide you pill popping freak.
Quote from: Grey Fox on September 23, 2013, 09:56:44 PM
and something I don't know how to say in english but is worth 9 points.
:bleeding:
Driving on a sidewalk full of pedestrians at high speed?
3 speeding tickets, once for blocking intersection, and once for reckless driving (got arrested that time). Is it any wonder I hate driving?
Quote from: Admiral Yi on September 23, 2013, 10:12:19 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on September 23, 2013, 09:56:44 PM
and something I don't know how to say in english but is worth 9 points.
:bleeding:
Driving on a sidewalk full of pedestrians at high speed?
Impregnating a woman while driving too fast for conditions.
Quote from: katmai on September 23, 2013, 10:09:02 PM
Quote from: Capetan Mihali on September 23, 2013, 10:04:08 PM
Don't do the FSTs!
I was sober with nothing to hide you pill popping freak.
:lol:
I hated conducting SFSTs when it was a foregone conclusion. Best one was when we were about to start them on a driver, and he said something to the effect, "Don't want to waste our time...I'm drunk as all fuck."
I love when I hadn't had anything to drink all night and the cop says he smells alcohol.
Quote from: derspiess on September 23, 2013, 10:42:27 PM
I love when I hadn't had anything to drink all night and the cop says he smells alcohol.
I wasn't surprised when I got pulled over because i was out in Podunk town where cops get super excited as this happened during State Fair time where they do find fuck ton of dumb asses drinking and driving.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on September 23, 2013, 10:12:19 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on September 23, 2013, 09:56:44 PM
and something I don't know how to say in english but is worth 9 points.
:bleeding:
Driving on a sidewalk full of pedestrians at high speed?
Failure to drive in French.
I haven't been convicted of any moving violations in the last 30 years.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 23, 2013, 09:58:52 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on September 23, 2013, 09:57:51 PM
2 for "driving too closely" which is cop-talk for tapping someone on the bumper at a low speed. Didn't do any damage, but they still love writing out more tickets.
:lol: Dude, you just can't do that.
I think you're drawing a different image of what I mean. They were stopped, I neglected to look, I hit them from behind. I definitely would not tap someone while both cards were moving. :lol:
Quote from: Habbaku on September 24, 2013, 12:22:31 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 23, 2013, 09:58:52 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on September 23, 2013, 09:57:51 PM
2 for "driving too closely" which is cop-talk for tapping someone on the bumper at a low speed. Didn't do any damage, but they still love writing out more tickets.
:lol: Dude, you just can't do that.
I think you're drawing a different image of what I mean. They were stopped, I neglected to look, I hit them from behind. I definitely would not tap someone while both cards were moving. :lol:
You're not supposed to do that either. :mellow:
Tickets are in my budget. :)
I drive in California a lot. :lol:
1) Not giving way on a roundabout to a cyclist. Wasn't even stopped, got it a couple of weeks later barely remembering this?
2) Going 76km where the limit was 70km, my only speeding fine. Wasn't stopped either, caught on speeding camera.
That's all till now
None. But I only drove as a habit for a year and very rarely since. Hope I'm never in a position where I have to take it up full time.
I got one, about 12 years ago. Was enough.
Quote from: Tyr on September 24, 2013, 06:14:19 AM
None. But I only drove as a habit for a year and very rarely since. Hope I'm never in a position where I have to take it up full time.
:huh:
Quote from: Caliga on September 24, 2013, 08:28:32 AM
Quote from: Tyr on September 24, 2013, 06:14:19 AM
None. But I only drove as a habit for a year and very rarely since. Hope I'm never in a position where I have to take it up full time.
:huh:
This is the guy who complains that modern towns don't have everything located within a few blocks of each other.
I actually like to drive. Not only is it fun, but then you aren't forced to share a vehicle with smelly/crazy people. :)
Quote from: Caliga on September 24, 2013, 08:39:45 AM
I actually like to drive. Not only is it fun, but then you aren't forced to share a vehicle with smelly/crazy people. :)
Ugh, public transportation. :yucky:
Quote from: Ed Anger on September 24, 2013, 08:41:50 AM
Quote from: Caliga on September 24, 2013, 08:39:45 AM
I actually like to drive. Not only is it fun, but then you aren't forced to share a vehicle with smelly/crazy people. :)
Ugh, public transportation. :yucky:
Indeed. :jaron: :berkut:
It's not the other people, it's the wait times!
Next bus in 55 minutes.
I can't stand the smell.
I only got two speeding tickets in my life, for doing 130 something Km/h in a 120 Km/h part of the highway. It was in the same spot a few months apart, caught on camera. I got the fine in the mail a few days after the fact, 100 € fines that came down to 70 € for early payment. I also got pulled over once while driving a rental which I didn't really got the hang of and the road patrol thought I might be tipsy but I blew a 0.0 (the only time I've had to take a breather test).
Quote from: Ed Anger on September 24, 2013, 08:51:38 AM
I can't stand the smell.
Uh, yeah. But I hear they have wifi these days :mellow:
When I was in Ireland I went to some little town during a bank holiday. The town was packed and I was not used to driving on the left side. I sideswiped a parked car. I had to march myself to the police station and wait half an hour for the Gardaí to come and issue me a ticket. :Embarrass:
When I was seventeen I was driving back from work. The police pulled me over and said that I had run a stop sign. They let me go without even a warning. I later found out that someone had robbed my place of employment (a Meijer, sort of northern Wal-Mart) and his getaway car left without him; so the police were pulling over every young male in the vicinity.
I've probably gotten half a dozen or so speeding tickets over the years; nothing in the past decade, though.
I've gotten one or two in my 200 years of driving. I kind of remember one many years ago, so that may have been the only one.
No moving violations for me, but I've gotten towed twice as I figured out where the limits where while looking for free parking around my current place of work.
More datapoints for Raz's spreadsheets.
When I first started driving I was ticketed a lot but I havent been ticketed since about 1986.
None. Zero parking tickets as well.
I've never been stopped either. I don't drive weekend nights and for some reason they always wave me through counter-terrorism checkpoints.
Quote from: Iormlund on September 24, 2013, 01:41:13 PM
I don't drive weekend nights and for some reason they always wave me through counter-terrorism checkpoints.
I almost always get stopped for some kind of search at airports. I think it is because they want to assure people they are not profiling.
Quote from: Capetan Mihali on September 23, 2013, 10:04:08 PM
Quote from: katmai on September 23, 2013, 10:00:02 PM
None.
Pulled over once for doing 43 in 35, they had me do the whole sobriety test as it was 5am.
Don't do the FSTs!
Isn't that, like, terrible advice? UP here failing to comply with a demand carries the same penalty as being impaired would.
Quote from: crazy canuck on September 24, 2013, 01:51:08 PM
Quote from: Iormlund on September 24, 2013, 01:41:13 PM
I don't drive weekend nights and for some reason they always wave me through counter-terrorism checkpoints.
I almost always get stopped for some kind of search at airports. I think it is because they want to assure people they are not profiling.
I get patted down maybe 25% of the time. Usually they do a patdown on my back, though one time they did it inside my thighs. They have a TSA agent of the same gender do it but for that one I would have preferred one of the opposite gender, but they didn't consult with me first. :mad:
Oh man, if we're going into parking tickets, dozens. I still owe Columbia $35, now that I think about it.
Quote from: Ideologue on September 24, 2013, 02:11:07 PM
Oh man, if we're going into parking tickets, dozens. I still owe Columbia $35, now that I think about it.
:huh: How does one earn so many parking tickets? Do you just steadfastly refuse to follow the rules or something?
Ide's a hoodlum.
Law school parking was atrocious.
Actually, I may've paid that (it was a quadrupled fine for lateness). I should go check next time I'm downtown.
Quote from: Barrister on September 24, 2013, 01:54:49 PM
Quote from: Capetan Mihali on September 23, 2013, 10:04:08 PM
Quote from: katmai on September 23, 2013, 10:00:02 PM
None.
Pulled over once for doing 43 in 35, they had me do the whole sobriety test as it was 5am.
Don't do the FSTs!
Isn't that, like, terrible advice? UP here failing to comply with a demand carries the same penalty as being impaired would.
The field sobriety tests (and the preliminary breath test) aren't required, and generally aren't to your advantage to perform. Refusal to give an evidentiary blood or breath sample (in e.g. a Datamaster) almost always results in a civil suspension of your license (to the same extent or longer as being impaired would). In VT it is also the basis for a separate charge of "criminal refusal" if you already have a prior DUI conviction or there is an accident with death or serious bodily injury. I don't think the FSTs (dexterity, modified Romberg, etc.) are part of the "implied consent" laws anywhere in the US.
So we advise clients to submit to a breath or blood test at the station but refuse the field tests and refuse the "drug recognition expert" tests. They tend to do the opposite.
Quote from: Ideologue on September 24, 2013, 02:18:42 PM
Law school parking was atrocious.
Well duh, it's because there are too many damn lawyers. :)
Quote from: Capetan Mihali on September 24, 2013, 02:30:20 PM
Quote from: Barrister on September 24, 2013, 01:54:49 PM
Quote from: Capetan Mihali on September 23, 2013, 10:04:08 PM
Quote from: katmai on September 23, 2013, 10:00:02 PM
None.
Pulled over once for doing 43 in 35, they had me do the whole sobriety test as it was 5am.
Don't do the FSTs!
Isn't that, like, terrible advice? UP here failing to comply with a demand carries the same penalty as being impaired would.
So we advise clients to submit to a breath or blood test at the station but refuse the field tests and refuse the "drug recognition expert" tests. They tend to do the opposite.
They dont listen very well. :P
Quote from: Capetan Mihali on September 24, 2013, 02:30:20 PM
So we advise clients to submit to a breath or blood test at the station but refuse the field tests and refuse the "drug recognition expert" tests. They tend to do the opposite.
I'm not clear on the reasoning.
FSTs are designed to be failed, and prove nothing but that your judgment was poor enough to submit to an FST.
Also getting you to the test location and getting the shit ready can take up to an hour or two, so that's always a plus, and there are often serious problems with the operation of breath test machines, re: calibration, specificity, etc.
Blood tests are actually pretty reliable afaik.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on September 24, 2013, 02:38:07 PM
Quote from: Capetan Mihali on September 24, 2013, 02:30:20 PM
So we advise clients to submit to a breath or blood test at the station but refuse the field tests and refuse the "drug recognition expert" tests. They tend to do the opposite.
I'm not clear on the reasoning.
Refuse the ones you can refuse without penalty, don't refuse the ones you can't. Refuse the ones that are most likely to make you incriminate yourself/give the police probable cause to arrest, don't refuse the others.
Quote from: Capetan Mihali on September 24, 2013, 02:44:28 PM
Refuse the ones you can refuse without penalty, don't refuse the ones you can't. Refuse the ones that are most likely to make you incriminate yourself/give the police probable cause to arrest, don't refuse the others.
OK, but what's the upside of refusing the ones you can refuse? Has Ide already answered?
Quote from: Ideologue on September 24, 2013, 02:43:06 PM
Also getting you to the test location and getting the shit ready can take up to an hour or two, so that's always a plus, and there are often serious problems with the operation of breath test machines, re: calibration, specificity, etc.
Blood tests are actually pretty reliable afaik.
Ideally, you go and get your own blood test done once the police are through with you. Of course, that's maybe going to happen for 1 in 10 upper-middle-class people pulled over in the middle of the day getting immediate advice from a criminal defense lawyer. In VT, at least, the police have to instruct suspected impaired drivers about where and how to get an independent test done, even if no one actually does it.
EDIT: *suspected*
Quote from: Admiral Yi on September 24, 2013, 02:45:32 PM
Quote from: Capetan Mihali on September 24, 2013, 02:44:28 PM
Refuse the ones you can refuse without penalty, don't refuse the ones you can't. Refuse the ones that are most likely to make you incriminate yourself/give the police probable cause to arrest, don't refuse the others.
OK, but what's the upside of refusing the ones you can refuse? Has Ide already answered?
Pretty much. Those are the same as the ones most likely to make you incriminate yourself/give PC to arrest.
I'd fail any FSTs no matter the time of day or amount of alcohol (or water) I've had. I would refuse them no matter what.
Quote from: Capetan Mihali on September 24, 2013, 02:30:20 PM
Quote from: Barrister on September 24, 2013, 01:54:49 PM
Quote from: Capetan Mihali on September 23, 2013, 10:04:08 PM
Quote from: katmai on September 23, 2013, 10:00:02 PM
None.
Pulled over once for doing 43 in 35, they had me do the whole sobriety test as it was 5am.
Don't do the FSTs!
Isn't that, like, terrible advice? UP here failing to comply with a demand carries the same penalty as being impaired would.
The field sobriety tests (and the preliminary breath test) aren't required, and generally aren't to your advantage to perform. Refusal to give an evidentiary blood or breath sample (in e.g. a Datamaster) almost always results in a civil suspension of your license (to the same extent or longer as being impaired would). In VT it is also the basis for a separate charge of "criminal refusal" if you already have a prior DUI conviction or there is an accident with death or serious bodily injury. I don't think the FSTs (dexterity, modified Romberg, etc.) are part of the "implied consent" laws anywhere in the US.
So we advise clients to submit to a breath or blood test at the station but refuse the field tests and refuse the "drug recognition expert" tests. They tend to do the opposite.
Okay, so while the common law world has broadly similar legal principles, once we dig down into minutiae like impaired driving regulations they're fairly different. UP here if you refuse to comply with a field sobriety test (which is so rare I've never seen one, despite practicing in this area) or a DRE test (uncommon, but not unheard of) you will be charged with an offence equal in penalty to impaired driving, regardless of whether you have a record or not.
Can a cop lie to you about whether you're obligated to submit to FST? I imagine that if you refuse, and the cop says that you'll get punished for refusing it, most people are not going to be confident enough in their interpretation of the law to call the cop's bluff and risk conviction.
I'd say about 4 or 5 tickets, not sure. I've had 2 speeding tickets the same day in two different states. :yeah:
And I am also glad the few points I had left in PR did not transfer over to the states. So those don't count. :)
No tickets. I came close to opening the score in a big way when I was doing 95 in 45 on Pulaski Skyway, under what turned out to be a mistaken assumption that there are no cops there at night when it's nearly empty.
I think I've been given the grand total of 1 speeding ticket. 2001 in Calgary. I thought the limit was 60, and I was travelling 70. Turns out the limit was 50.
Back as a kid under similar circumstances (not knowing the limit) I was given a warning, but not this one time.
You should've flashed your wig.
Perhaps he did.
Never gotten a ticket. Small wonder since I can't drive 55.
I have had a handful of speeding tickets.
I dated a gal from a very small town and the local barney Fife really didn't like me. The speed went from 55 to 45 to 35 in about a 3/4 mile stretch of road and he would sit there and try and get me every time I came into town.
I also had a "following to closely" to some jackass who cut me off then slammed on his brakes when he realized there was a cop right there.
I completely ran a stop sign up in the rural gravel roads I used to live on, it was a T intersection with no reason for me to stop and I didn't notice the cop sitting 20 feet in front of me. As soon as I went through it I saw him and I was pulled over before he had finished making his u-turn.
Also a DUII that I might have had a chance to fight, but the way the laws are written you really can' fight it if you are offered diversion.
Pulled over and warned many, many times. Mostly for BS reasons.
I guy I used to work with had an amazing driving record. He was ~50 years old and brought in a full sized photo album full of traffic tickets he had gotten in his life. There must have been over 100 in there easily. At one point when he was in his 20's he was paying something like $500 a month to drive a shitty broken down motorcycle.
The thing that I find grossly unfair about the traffic ticket system, apart from the usual speed traps and such, is that it makes no allowance for how much you drive. If you drive 100,000 miles a year, it's probably easier for you to rack up enough points to have your licence suspended than if you drive 5,000 miles a year. You also probably really need that licence if you drive that much.
Quote from: DGuller on September 24, 2013, 03:44:10 PM
Can a cop lie to you about whether you're obligated to submit to FST? I imagine that if you refuse, and the cop says that you'll get punished for refusing it, most people are not going to be confident enough in their interpretation of the law to call the cop's bluff and risk conviction.
Probably. Cops lie all the time.
Quote from: Ideologue on September 24, 2013, 04:05:54 PM
You should've flashed your wig.
That's how he gets through red lights.
Every time I feel bad about my driving record, I remember that Ide is also a member of this forum. :P
I'm glad I could serve a socially useful function, you jerk.
Quote from: Ideologue on September 24, 2013, 08:20:52 PM
I'm glad I could serve a socially useful function, you jerk.
:hug: Just like I serve a socially useful function in being the village idiot. :P
Went to court today, plead not guilty to reckless driving, and questioned the officer's vision.
Judge reduced charge to non-moving violation of "defective equipment". My record remains clean with no points. :)
I've never been stopped. Which is odd, as I speed all the time. :hmm:
Quote from: Malthus on September 25, 2013, 02:35:39 PM
I've never been stopped. Which is odd, as I speed all the time. :hmm:
Same. I figure cops see my car and go "That dude is too important for us to mess with." :smoke:
Quote from: Caliga on September 25, 2013, 02:37:18 PM
Quote from: Malthus on September 25, 2013, 02:35:39 PM
I've never been stopped. Which is odd, as I speed all the time. :hmm:
Same. I figure cops see my car and go "That dude is too important for us to mess with." :smoke:
I was always surprised how contractor vehicles seem invisible to cops. I flew past many, many cops in my old company truck and was never pulled over.
People who drive for a living can get their lives messed up if they get violations. Maybe the cops were trying not to be dicks. Unlikely, but you never know.
OTOH, those commercial tickets are big $$, and I see 18-wheelers pulled over on the freeway all the time.
Bet they don't pull over Los Pollos Hermanos trucks.
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on September 25, 2013, 05:49:31 PM
OTOH, those commercial tickets are big $$, and I see 18-wheelers pulled over on the freeway all the time.
They're usually pulled over for inspection, which doesn't always result in a citation.
Isn't that what weigh stations are for?
For interstate transportation, yeah, they're supposed to hit the weigh stations but some routes require mobile inspections, like those that lead to tunnels and bridges.
When are weigh stations generally open? Very rarely have I ever seen one that was not closed.
They have fruity hours at all of them, but they have to stop at them when they're open if they're pulling 10 tons or more, though. If they're closed, no biggie. Once in a while you'll see one open in the middle of the night.
The I-25 one on the Wyoming Colorado border (boarder?) is open all the time.
What's the whole "point" thing that you guys are talking about? :unsure:
I don't think we have that system here.
Quote from: merithyn on September 25, 2013, 08:32:24 PM
What's the whole "point" thing that you guys are talking about? :unsure:
I don't think we have that system here.
You probably do, I mean they certainly have it on both coasts.
http://www.dmv.org/il-illinois/point-system.php
If you collect a certain number of points, you get a prize: the improved cardiovascular health that comes from walking places.
Wyoming doesn't have the point system :)
Quote from: PDH on September 25, 2013, 08:35:56 PM
Wyoming doesn't have the point system :)
http://www.dmv.org/wy-wyoming/point-system.php
QuoteWyoming's arrangement is similar to a point system; it just doesn't put digits next to citations.
At any rate, Wyoming doesn't really have enough people that it should be considered a state.
Wyoming is basically Road Warrior, except cold.
Quote from: Ideologue on September 25, 2013, 08:37:59 PM
Wyoming is basically Road Warrior, except cold.
And fewer mohawks
Quote from: Ideologue on September 25, 2013, 08:37:59 PM
Wyoming is basically Road Warrior, except cold.
I'd let you ride on the back of my car. Don't touch my hockey mask.
Quote from: garbon on September 25, 2013, 08:37:48 PM
At any rate, Wyoming doesn't really have enough people that it should be considered a state.
Wyoming sneaked in to become a state because it voted nice and republican and has mostly since 1890. That means there will always be a Wyoming, people or not.
Plus, I have heard we are basically Road Warrior which makes us cool.
Quote from: Ed Anger on September 25, 2013, 08:41:07 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on September 25, 2013, 08:37:59 PM
Wyoming is basically Road Warrior, except cold.
I'd let you ride on the back of my car. Don't touch my hockey mask.
I could be persuaded to let Ide walk in proximity of mine.
In Brooklyn? Pass.
Mike D, that's who it was.
Quote from: Ideologue on September 25, 2013, 08:43:46 PM
In Brooklyn? Pass.
In downtown brooklyn, they'd probably toss your cracker ass out. :(
Overrated band. I do like Sabotage and Fight for your Right though.
Quote from: Ideologue on September 25, 2013, 08:34:55 PM
If you collect a certain number of points, you get a prize: the improved cardiovascular health that comes from walking places.
In Florida you can get your points removed from going to class. One of my co-workers (the "Brian" in the La Florida thread) had to go through second DUI class. It was only one weekend long and all his points were expunged (though he did have to do some time in the county jail.) He said everyone in the class reeked of booze, and vanished during the breaks in order to drink their lunch or mid-afternoon snack.
I'd need a drink too if I had to sit through that class.
Quote from: Savonarola on September 25, 2013, 09:19:32 PM
vanished during the breaks in order to drink their lunch or mid-afternoon snack.
Liquid diet! :cool:
Quote from: garbon on September 25, 2013, 08:34:20 PM
Quote from: merithyn on September 25, 2013, 08:32:24 PM
What's the whole "point" thing that you guys are talking about? :unsure:
I don't think we have that system here.
You probably do, I mean they certainly have it on both coasts.
http://www.dmv.org/il-illinois/point-system.php
Yeah, I don't think we have it here.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Point_system_(driving)#United_States_of_America (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Point_system_(driving)#United_States_of_America)
Uh....
Quote from: katmai on September 25, 2013, 09:38:53 PM
Uh....
dmv.org is a sales website. Primarily for car insurance. You'll forgive me if I ignore what it says.
Your Wiki link is obviously incomplete. I know New Jersey has a points system, and it's not there either.
Quote from: merithyn on September 25, 2013, 09:42:12 PM
Quote from: katmai on September 25, 2013, 09:38:53 PM
Uh....
dmv.org is a sales website. Primarily for car insurance. You'll forgive me if I ignore what it says.
Found the law on ilgov.gov. Guess there is one. *shrug*
As I said, I've had two tickets in my life. Had no idea there was such a thing.
I've never had a traffic ticket, never been pulled over for speeding. I've been pulled over a few times when I let my vehicle registration lapse, every time that's happened it's been basically a matter where I go to the court house before the court date on the ticket, showing them my new registration information, and they throw the ticket out and I pay no fine or etc, I just lose time out of my life to resolve it.
Now, while I've done well in the moving violation world, I have been pulled over for DUI when I was drunker than the entire Trail of Tears. I beat it with a good lawyer and because I refused to blow, giving them much less evidence to work with. Thank god it was 22 years ago when you could still refuse to incriminate yourself without being convicted of a separate (unconstitutional) offense for refusing to provide evidence against yourself.
Quote from: merithyn on September 25, 2013, 09:42:12 PM
Quote from: katmai on September 25, 2013, 09:38:53 PM
Uh....
dmv.org is a sales website. Primarily for car insurance. You'll forgive me if I ignore what it says.
And instead trust wiki...
How many times have you found an error on Wiki?
I've actually tried to correct a few but apparently I didn't use the right templates and just said whatever.
Also that dreadful dmv.org had a link directly to the ilga.gov site showing the point system. :mellow:
Quote from: Admiral Yi on September 25, 2013, 07:59:39 PM
Isn't that what weigh stations are for?
Here weigh stations are for just that - weighing to determine if the load is heavier than permitted. Vehicle inspections are different and dont often occur at the weigh stations - although it could be done. They are mainly done on routes where transporters might think there is no chance of getting caught with substandard maintenance.
Quote from: crazy canuck on September 26, 2013, 04:27:01 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on September 25, 2013, 07:59:39 PM
Isn't that what weigh stations are for?
Here weigh stations are for just that - weighing to determine if the load is heavier than permitted. Vehicle inspections are different and dont often occur at the weigh stations - although it could be done. They are mainly done on routes where transporters might think there is no chance of getting caught with substandard maintenance.
My wife was a former Transport Officer and you're absolutely right - the location of scales are well known, and it's not unusual for truckers with sub-standard or overloaded trucks to circumvent them. They also have portable scales for just this eventuality.
Are there any scales in Alaska?
Quote from: The Brain on September 26, 2013, 04:34:45 PM
Are there any scales in Alaska?
There are scales in Katmai's tacos.