Yes, time travel is imposssible. Yes, of course such and such a person wasn't a time traveller.
That being said though....crazy theory time.
Which historical figure do you think seems most likely to be a time traveller?
The most out of place, the most ahead of their time, the weirdest.
There's a lot of obvious ones; Da Vinci, Tesla, Lincoln, etc... prizes (not really) for alternative and interesting replies.
All of them were traveling in time.
Sir Richard Burton was pretty strange. I wouldn't think of him as a time traveler though. It never occurred to me that Abe Lincoln was a time traveler. I suppose he technically was a time traveler, in the same sense that I am. I believe Astronauts have traveled through time at a different rate then people on Earth due to the time dilation effects of gravity, the difference is miniscule.
Quote from: Tyr on September 09, 2013, 07:21:32 PM
Yes, time travel is imposssible. Yes, of course such and such a person wasn't a time traveller.
That being said though....crazy theory time.
Which historical figure do you think seems most likely to be a time traveller?
The most out of place, the most ahead of their time, the weirdest.
There's a lot of obvious ones; Da Vinci, Tesla, Lincoln, etc... prizes (not really) for alternative and interesting replies.
Why Lincoln?
Tyr, this is a strange thread.
Hitler and Stalin. They seem to be the two individuals in history who, from lowly beginnings of no consequence bestrode the world stage. Neither having the manual on how to succeed in running their country for the benefit of their people, they did both seem to have a manual on how to achieve power and once in power focusing on one single issue, hitler "getting" those he hated, stalin staying in power. They seem to both to have turned into annoyed gamers who suddenly realized that this is real life and they couldn't quit and have a sandwich at some point after the time when they themselves began to affect history rather than merely harnessing historical forces to their own ends. Neither seems to have been exceptionally competent, just insanely lucky with timing and strategy.
Yeah, that second to last sentence is a bit convoluted... but it is a sentence.
Quote from: Viking on September 09, 2013, 07:46:03 PM
Hitler and Stalin. They seem to be the two individuals in history who, from lowly beginnings of no consequence bestrode the world stage. Neither having the manual on how to succeed in running their country for the benefit of their people, they did both seem to have a manual on how to achieve power and once in power focusing on one single issue, hitler "getting" those he hated, stalin staying in power. They seem to both to have turned into annoyed gamers who suddenly realized that this is real life and they couldn't quit and have a sandwich at some point after the time when they themselves began to affect history rather than merely harnessing historical forces to their own ends. Neither seems to have been exceptionally competent, just insanely lucky with timing and strategy.
Yeah, that second to last sentence is a bit convoluted... but it is a sentence.
Perhaps it was that time in history rather than them being time travelers.
Preston Tucker. Went forward in time, broke down an '89 Volvo, and went back to build his car.
Michael J. Fox. There's documented evidence.
How bizarre. Lincoln was absolutely a man of his time.
You put Lincoln as an obvious example without even mentioning Galileo or Copernicus? :hmm:
I'd totally buy Tesla as a time traveler, though. Da Vinci, on the other hand... there's vague enough information on him that he may very well have just been a savant.
Maybe grallon, but it was probably accidental.
Quote from: Jacob on September 09, 2013, 08:30:12 PM
Maybe grallon, but it was probably accidental.
Or as punishment.
Quote from: Valmy on September 09, 2013, 08:02:26 PM
How bizarre. Lincoln was absolutely a man of his time.
Most of the guys were. The ones that weren't (like Tesla and Newton) were a little crazy. Or a lot crazy in Tesla's case.
Quote from: Valmy on September 09, 2013, 08:02:26 PM
How bizarre. Lincoln was absolutely a man of his time.
Indeed. And it sure was a depressing life he "travelled" through. I get sad every time I transport myself into Lincoln's life. :(
Mother died when he was a kid. Estranged from uneducated father. First lover died. Two sons died young, including one while in the White House. Wife increasingly crazy since the beginning. Leadership always second-guessed and criticized until assassination right after having abolished slavery, won civil war, and saved the nation. :wacko:
Quote from: Phillip V on September 09, 2013, 08:50:17 PM
Mother died when he was a kid. Estranged from uneducated father. First lover died. Two sons died young, including one while in the White House. Wife increasingly crazy since the beginning. Leadership always second-guessed and criticized until assassination right after having abolished slavery, won civil war, and saved the nation. :wacko:
Bitchin' beard, though. :showoff:
What the hell, I'll give a straight answer.
Thomas Edison, time traveller.
Frederick II's always seemed very out of his time.
William S. Burroughs
Most widely-acknowledged time traveler is Jesus of Nazareth.
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Quote from: Phillip V on September 09, 2013, 07:42:10 PM
Why Lincoln?
Freakishly tall, progressive, great at presidenting (it's a word now dammit), generally odd.
Sure, a lot is known about his earlier life which needs to be ignored but still, he is a strange chap.
John McCain appears to be from an earlier era, as though he came of age in the 1950s.
Quote from: Phillip V on September 09, 2013, 09:27:55 PM
Most widely-acknowledged time traveler is Jesus of Nazareth.
Or an alien.
Quote from: Sheilbh on September 09, 2013, 08:57:46 PM
Frederick II's always seemed very out of his time.
Hohenstaufen or Hohenzollern?
Quote from: Tyr on September 09, 2013, 09:30:56 PM
Freakishly tall, progressive, great at presidenting (it's a word now dammit), generally odd.
Sure, a lot is known about his earlier life which needs to be ignored but still, he is a strange chap.
:huh:
He was 6'4". That's not exactly "freakishly tall". George Washington was 6'2". And we've had a number of guys who were "great at presidenting" (damn, that was hard to type), and progressive.
Quote from: Razgovory on September 09, 2013, 10:16:18 PM
Quote from: Sheilbh on September 09, 2013, 08:57:46 PM
Frederick II's always seemed very out of his time.
Hohenstaufen or Hohenzollern?
RIght? Could be either or both.
Quote from: Caliga on September 09, 2013, 08:51:16 PM
Quote from: Phillip V on September 09, 2013, 08:50:17 PM
Mother died when he was a kid. Estranged from uneducated father. First lover died. Two sons died young, including one while in the White House. Wife increasingly crazy since the beginning. Leadership always second-guessed and criticized until assassination right after having abolished slavery, won civil war, and saved the nation. :wacko:
Bitchin' beard, though. :showoff:
Not really. Maybe bitchin' means gross in this context?
Shakespeare. Not only was he a time traveler, he was a Klingon time traveler! :nerd:
Mohammed, or some of the early Caliphs. Zoroaster. Zoroaster was preaching something radically different from the religion of his time, don't think there have been many people on his level.
Quote from: Phillip V on September 09, 2013, 07:56:05 PM
Quote from: Viking on September 09, 2013, 07:46:03 PM
Hitler and Stalin. They seem to be the two individuals in history who, from lowly beginnings of no consequence bestrode the world stage. Neither having the manual on how to succeed in running their country for the benefit of their people, they did both seem to have a manual on how to achieve power and once in power focusing on one single issue, hitler "getting" those he hated, stalin staying in power. They seem to both to have turned into annoyed gamers who suddenly realized that this is real life and they couldn't quit and have a sandwich at some point after the time when they themselves began to affect history rather than merely harnessing historical forces to their own ends. Neither seems to have been exceptionally competent, just insanely lucky with timing and strategy.
Yeah, that second to last sentence is a bit convoluted... but it is a sentence.
Perhaps it was that time in history rather than them being time travelers.
I agree, it was that moment in history when ANYBODY could have become a world striding conqueror if he just harnessed the correct revolution.
Eleanor of Acquitaine.
She seemed to have a very modern idea of a woman's place, and she was adept at manipulating people to get where she wanted to be.
Quote from: merithyn on September 10, 2013, 07:12:45 AM
Eleanor of Acquitaine.
She seemed to have a very modern idea of a woman's place, and she was adept at manipulating people to get where she wanted to be.
... imprisoned by her husband for 16 years? :P
Quote from: Malthus on September 10, 2013, 08:05:13 AM
Quote from: merithyn on September 10, 2013, 07:12:45 AM
Eleanor of Acquitaine.
She seemed to have a very modern idea of a woman's place, and she was adept at manipulating people to get where she wanted to be.
... imprisoned by her husband for 16 years? :P
She wrecked her time machine and needed a man to fix it.
Quote from: merithyn on September 10, 2013, 07:12:45 AM
Eleanor of Acquitaine.
She seemed to have a very modern idea of a woman's place, and she was adept at manipulating people to get where she wanted to be.
Trying to get her favorite son to kill and depose her husband? Certainly she had more in common with Lucretia Borgia than Maggie Thatcher.
Quote from: merithyn on September 10, 2013, 07:12:45 AM
Eleanor of Acquitaine.
She seemed to have a very modern idea of a woman's place, and she was adept at manipulating people to get where she wanted to be.
An aristocratic woman's role in running things? I think she was hardly alone in that. One should not confuse the remarkable achievements and power of those sorts of women with them having modern ideas about a woman's place. Aelia Pulcheria and Galla Placidia pretty much ran the Roman Empire but neither were modern people in any respect.
The Roman Emperor Elagabalus - he's the ultimate answer to the 21st century gay marriage debate. :D
Quote from: Viking on September 10, 2013, 08:34:41 AM
Quote from: merithyn on September 10, 2013, 07:12:45 AM
Eleanor of Acquitaine.
She seemed to have a very modern idea of a woman's place, and she was adept at manipulating people to get where she wanted to be.
Trying to get her favorite son to kill and depose her husband? Certainly she had more in common with Lucretia Borgia than Maggie Thatcher.
Lucretia? That is a rather bad comparison, she was a political pawn who died young.
Quote from: Malthus on September 10, 2013, 08:42:03 AM
The Roman Emperor Elagabalus - he's the ultimate answer to the 21st century gay marriage debate. :D
Have the Praetorian Guard kill all gays?
Quote from: Valmy on September 10, 2013, 08:42:07 AM
Quote from: Viking on September 10, 2013, 08:34:41 AM
Quote from: merithyn on September 10, 2013, 07:12:45 AM
Eleanor of Acquitaine.
She seemed to have a very modern idea of a woman's place, and she was adept at manipulating people to get where she wanted to be.
Trying to get her favorite son to kill and depose her husband? Certainly she had more in common with Lucretia Borgia than Maggie Thatcher.
Lucretia? That is a rather bad choice, she was a political pawn who died young.
Lucretia has a bad rep, undeserved. She never went around killing people. The rest of her family, now ... :D
Quote from: Valmy on September 10, 2013, 08:42:07 AM
Quote from: Viking on September 10, 2013, 08:34:41 AM
Quote from: merithyn on September 10, 2013, 07:12:45 AM
Eleanor of Acquitaine.
She seemed to have a very modern idea of a woman's place, and she was adept at manipulating people to get where she wanted to be.
Trying to get her favorite son to kill and depose her husband? Certainly she had more in common with Lucretia Borgia than Maggie Thatcher.
Lucretia? That is a rather bad choice, she was a political pawn who died young.
I'd say being locked up in a castle makes you a political pawn. Lucretia died at age 39 in childbirth - which was not young for that time.
Quote from: Valmy on September 10, 2013, 08:43:00 AM
Quote from: Malthus on September 10, 2013, 08:42:03 AM
The Roman Emperor Elagabalus - he's the ultimate answer to the 21st century gay marriage debate. :D
Have the Praetorian Guard kill all gays?
Well, that would be *a* solution ... :D
But they didn't kill him for gayness, but because, well, at that time being killed by Praetorians was the usual and expected retirement plan for emperors of
every sexual orientation. :lol:
Quote from: Malthus on September 10, 2013, 08:42:03 AM
The Roman Emperor Elagabalus - he's the ultimate answer to the 21st century gay marriage debate. :D
Also the ultimate answer to the 21st century clingy semitic mother figure debate.
Quote from: merithyn on September 09, 2013, 11:05:29 PM:huh:
He was 6'4". That's not exactly "freakishly tall". George Washington was 6'2". And we've had a number of guys who were "great at presidenting" (damn, that was hard to type), and progressive.
Yeah, it's not gigantism tall or anything, but probably akin to being 6'7 or so relative to today's average height.
Historical height has always interested me and a lot of people have weird misconceptions about it. For example there is an assumption that Middle Age and earlier Europeans were "tiny." But the reality is their average height (based on our best available evidence) might have been as high as 5'8" or 5'7", which is fairly close to the average adult male height of American men today at 5'9". Where the misconception comes from is people born in the 19th century (many of whom lived into the 20th, obviously) were much shorter than the modern average, parts of Europe men averaged 5'4" in height. This is because there was actually a collapse in nutritional values people received during the beginning of the Industrial Revolution, so while they were better off in terms of wage earning they were actually eating worse than Middle Age peasants. North America was also by far the tallest region, with North American males averaging 3-4" taller than European males in the 19th century.
So Lincoln would have been tall anywhere (and even tall today at 6'4"), but in America 6'4" wasn't as tall as it would have been in England at the time, relative to his peers.
Quote from: Viking on September 10, 2013, 08:44:48 AM
I'd say being locked up in a castle makes you a political pawn.
Meh most scheming Nobles ended up locked up in some castle or another for a few years.
Quote from: OttoVonBismarck on September 10, 2013, 08:48:17 AM
Quote from: merithyn on September 09, 2013, 11:05:29 PM:huh:
He was 6'4". That's not exactly "freakishly tall". George Washington was 6'2". And we've had a number of guys who were "great at presidenting" (damn, that was hard to type), and progressive.
Yeah, it's not gigantism tall or anything, but probably akin to being 6'7 or so relative to today's average height.
Historical height has always interested me and a lot of people have weird misconceptions about it. For example there is an assumption that Middle Age and earlier Europeans were "tiny." But the reality is their average height (based on our best available evidence) might have been as high as 5'8" or 5'7", which is fairly close to the average adult male height of American men today at 5'9". Where the misconception comes from is people born in the 19th century (many of whom lived into the 20th, obviously) were much shorter than the modern average, parts of Europe men averaged 5'4" in height. This is because there was actually a collapse in nutritional values people received during the beginning of the Industrial Revolution, so while they were better off in terms of wage earning they were actually eating worse than Middle Age peasants. North America was also by far the tallest region, with North American males averaging 3-4" taller than European males in the 19th century.
So Lincoln would have been tall anywhere (and even tall today at 6'4"), but in America 6'4" wasn't as tall as it would have been in England at the time, relative to his peers.
He was only a few inches taller than his predecessor, James Buchanon. He was by no means "freakishly tall". In fact, Winfield Scott would have been our tallest president in 1852 at 6'5" if he had won.
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Though James Madison appears to have been a midget.
Quote from: garbon on September 10, 2013, 08:59:08 AM
Though James Madison appears to have been a midget.
Ahem. "Little person"
Quote from: garbon on September 10, 2013, 08:59:08 AM
Though James Madison appears to have been a midget.
:mad:
He was taller than me, and I'm not a midget. :contract:
Technically. I believe that I am four inches too tall to be a "little person", thankyouverymuch.
Quote from: garbon on September 10, 2013, 08:59:08 AM
Though James Madison appears to have been a midget.
Intellectual giant though.
This isn't the Junior Chamber of Commerce, Brad.
Quote from: garbon on September 10, 2013, 08:59:08 AM
Though James Madison appears to have been a midget.
Not only that but he was very skinny and had a lisp. He weighed about 100 pounds soaking wet. The late 18th/early 19th century was the only time that guy was getting elected.
Quote from: Valmy on September 10, 2013, 09:03:56 AM
Quote from: garbon on September 10, 2013, 08:59:08 AM
Though James Madison appears to have been a midget.
Not only that but he was very skinny and had a lisp. He weighed about 100 pounds soaking wet. The late 18th/early 19th century was the only time that guy was getting elected.
Which says a lot about today's mentality. The man was brilliant.
Quote from: Valmy on September 10, 2013, 09:03:56 AM
Quote from: garbon on September 10, 2013, 08:59:08 AM
Though James Madison appears to have been a midget.
Not only that but he was very skinny and had a lisp. He weighed about 100 pounds soaking wet. The late 18th/early 19th century was the only time that guy was getting elected.
Deists can't get elected these days.
Quote from: Valmy on September 10, 2013, 09:03:56 AM
Quote from: garbon on September 10, 2013, 08:59:08 AM
Though James Madison appears to have been a midget.
Not only that but he was very skinny and had a lisp. He weighed about 100 pounds soaking wet. The late 18th/early 19th century was the only time that guy was getting elected.
Additionally, Simón Bolívar was not much taller at 66 inches (1.68 m).
Quote from: Phillip V on September 10, 2013, 04:42:41 PM
Quote from: Valmy on September 10, 2013, 09:03:56 AM
Quote from: garbon on September 10, 2013, 08:59:08 AM
Though James Madison appears to have been a midget.
Not only that but he was very skinny and had a lisp. He weighed about 100 pounds soaking wet. The late 18th/early 19th century was the only time that guy was getting elected.
Additionally, Simón Bolívar was not much taller at 66 inches (1.68 m).
Talk about someone with a terrible legacy.
Quote from: Valmy on September 09, 2013, 11:08:11 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on September 09, 2013, 10:16:18 PM
Quote from: Sheilbh on September 09, 2013, 08:57:46 PM
Frederick II's always seemed very out of his time.
Hohenstaufen or Hohenzollern?
RIght? Could be either or both.
Nah. Frederick the Great's amazing, but he's the perfect 18th Century ruler. Holy Roman Emperor Frederick II was extraordinary, especially for his time.
Not sure how reliable Meri's chart is...FDR couldn't have been much more than 4 feet. :P
Quote from: alfred russel on September 10, 2013, 10:02:21 PM
Not sure how reliable Meri's chart is...FDR couldn't have been much more than 4 feet. :P
:P
He stood with the help of crutches. :contract:
Quote from: alfred russel on September 10, 2013, 10:02:21 PM
Not sure how reliable Meri's chart is...FDR couldn't have been much more than 4 feet. :P
Fucked up, yo.
I'm fairly certain Silvio Berlusconi is either a time traveler or he sold his soul to the devil. He's inexplicably achieved power, status, money, women and, by the (admittedly low) standards of Italian leaders, respect. Time travel would explain his career about as well as anything else.
Quote from: OttoVonBismarck on September 10, 2013, 08:48:17 AM
Yeah, it's not gigantism tall or anything, but probably akin to being 6'7 or so relative to today's average height.
Bah, 6'7'' isnt that tall if you cut out the population that lacks altheticism. 7'+ - now we are talking large human beings.
Quote from: crazy canuck on September 12, 2013, 10:58:21 AM
Quote from: OttoVonBismarck on September 10, 2013, 08:48:17 AM
Yeah, it's not gigantism tall or anything, but probably akin to being 6'7 or so relative to today's average height.
Bah, 6'7'' isnt that tall if you cut out the population that lacks altheticism. 7'+ - now we are talking large human beings.
Your likely fate in the 18th century:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2077392/London-museum-told-stop-displaying-skeleton-Charles-Byrne.html
:P
Proves my point. That guy was 7'7'' and would have made millions as a free agent today.
Joan of Arc
A peasant girl from nowhere, rises to lead the french army, in that age and that society.
She is either a time-traveller or proof that there is a god who works in mysterious ways
Quote from: Bluebook on September 12, 2013, 03:47:02 PM
Joan of Arc
A peasant girl from nowhere, rises to lead the french army, in that age and that society.
She is either a time-traveller or proof that there is a god who works in mysterious ways
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_sharpshooter_fallacy
She was like, the 150th maid of Lorraine that had been brought forth to fulfill the prophecy. She didn't really do anything either, she was more of a mascot in toy armor who was dispensed with as soon as she ceased being useful.
Quote from: Bluebook on September 12, 2013, 03:47:02 PM
Joan of Arc
A peasant girl from nowhere, rises to lead the french army, in that age and that society.
She is either a time-traveller or proof that there is a god who works in mysterious ways
Yeah that is one of the most more unique and weird stories in history.
Quote from: Viking on September 12, 2013, 03:50:03 PM
Quote from: Bluebook on September 12, 2013, 03:47:02 PM
Joan of Arc
A peasant girl from nowhere, rises to lead the french army, in that age and that society.
She is either a time-traveller or proof that there is a god who works in mysterious ways
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_sharpshooter_fallacy
She was like, the 150th maid of Lorraine that had been brought forth to fulfill the prophecy. She didn't really do anything either, she was more of a mascot in toy armor who was dispensed with as soon as she ceased being useful.
LOL I do love all the cynical idiots who run out making up crap like this. I mean Kings of France have been establishing teenage girl figurehead leaders for their armies for generations!!!11
Please.
Quote from: Valmy on September 12, 2013, 03:57:39 PM
Quote from: Viking on September 12, 2013, 03:50:03 PM
Quote from: Bluebook on September 12, 2013, 03:47:02 PM
Joan of Arc
A peasant girl from nowhere, rises to lead the french army, in that age and that society.
She is either a time-traveller or proof that there is a god who works in mysterious ways
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_sharpshooter_fallacy
She was like, the 150th maid of Lorraine that had been brought forth to fulfill the prophecy. She didn't really do anything either, she was more of a mascot in toy armor who was dispensed with as soon as she ceased being useful.
LOL I do love all the cynical idiots who run out making up crap like this. I mean Kings of France have been establishing teenage girl figurehead leaders for their armies for generations!!!11
Please.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maid_of_Lorraine_prophecies
That wasn't the contention, that France traditionally had use little girls as mascots for her armies. The prophecy had become popular in the period and the oriflame had failed spectacularly and all of a sudden up pops a young maid fitting the prophecy declared to be the prophecy made manifest and then for perfectly sensible and materialistic reasons france wins the hundred years war.
In a thread where we discuss exceptional people with exceptional achievements this one is definitively the odd one out.
The link to the prophecy doesn't seem to mention the 149 other maids brought forth.
Quote from: Viking on September 12, 2013, 04:03:35 PM
In a thread where we discuss exceptional people with exceptional achievements this one is definitively the odd one out.
Actually that is not what we are discussing. It is for people who were out of place, ahead of their time, and/or weird.
QuoteThat wasn't the contention, that France traditionally had use little girls as mascots for her armies. The prophecy had become popular in the period and the oriflame had failed spectacularly and all of a sudden up pops a young maid fitting the prophecy declared to be the prophecy made manifest and then for perfectly sensible and materialistic reasons france wins the hundred years war.
Yes? And who might these be? And yes whomever won the Hundred Years War would probably have sensible and materialistic reasons for doing so. Big deal.
I'm a time traveller, but the mechanism now appears broken and I'm stranded in the 'shit age'.
Quote from: mongers on September 12, 2013, 04:44:39 PM
I'm a time traveller, but the mechanism now appears broken and I'm stranded in the 'shit age'.
In which age(s) would you be a bubbling font of positivity mongers?
Quote from: Admiral Yi on September 12, 2013, 04:46:04 PM
Quote from: mongers on September 12, 2013, 04:44:39 PM
I'm a time traveller, but the mechanism now appears broken and I'm stranded in the 'shit age'.
In which age(s) would you be a bubbling font of positivity mongers?
The one* I was heading to, when I got stranded. <_<
edit:*it was in the future, still is for all I know, but obviously I can't tell you anything. :cool:
Jules Verne and H G Wells may have done some time travel.
Quote from: crazy canuck on September 12, 2013, 10:58:21 AM
Bah, 6'7'' isnt that tall if you cut out the population that lacks altheticism. 7'+ - now we are talking large human beings.
What does athleticism have to do with it?
Quote from: Valmy on September 12, 2013, 04:42:33 PM
Actually that is not what we are discussing. It is for people who were out of place, ahead of their time, and/or weird.
Yeah, so turns out she was not out of place at all but utilized for a myth that was very much from that time and place.
Quote from: mongers on September 12, 2013, 04:44:39 PM
I'm a time traveller, but the mechanism now appears broken and I'm stranded in the 'shit age'.
And like a typical time traveller you didnt bring sufficient money with you to cover such emergencies. You guys are all the same.
I'd go back in time and buttfuck Joan of Arc.
Which age(s) would you *not* travel back to to buttfuck someone Boner?
Quote from: Admiral Yi on September 12, 2013, 05:09:43 PM
Which age(s) would you *not* travel back to to buttfuck someone Boner?
Good and relevant question
Quote from: crazy canuck on September 12, 2013, 05:04:05 PM
Quote from: Valmy on September 12, 2013, 04:42:33 PM
Actually that is not what we are discussing. It is for people who were out of place, ahead of their time, and/or weird.
Yeah, so turns out she was not out of place at all but utilized for a myth that was very much from that time and place.
Thing is, they didn't just go pick her up. She came to them. And she wasn't actually from Lorraine. Nor did the French "dispense" with her. She was captured in combat. So not much of Viking's theory holds up.
Quote from: Razgovory on September 12, 2013, 05:14:36 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on September 12, 2013, 05:04:05 PM
Quote from: Valmy on September 12, 2013, 04:42:33 PM
Actually that is not what we are discussing. It is for people who were out of place, ahead of their time, and/or weird.
Yeah, so turns out she was not out of place at all but utilized for a myth that was very much from that time and place.
Thing is, they didn't just go pick her up. She came to them. And she wasn't actually from Lorraine. Nor did the French "dispense" with her. She was captured in combat. So not much of Viking's theory holds up.
Not sure how any of that conflicts with her being grounded in that time and place rather than someone who shows up on the scene with something novel and new.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on September 12, 2013, 05:09:43 PM
Which age(s) would you *not* travel back to to buttfuck someone Boner?
Hmmmmm.
I don't think I'd go past ~700BC.
go back to assfuck Gorgo? Yeah.
Go back for some primitive bitch in Ur? pass.
Quote from: Ed Anger on September 12, 2013, 05:21:06 PM
Hmmmmm.
I don't think I'd go past ~700BC.
go back to assfuck Gorgo? Yeah.
Go back for some primitive bitch in Ur? pass.
You'd be all over some Cretan hottie walking around with her tits in the air. 1,500 BC.
I don't fuck Cretins.
Quote from: crazy canuck on September 12, 2013, 05:17:45 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on September 12, 2013, 05:14:36 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on September 12, 2013, 05:04:05 PM
Quote from: Valmy on September 12, 2013, 04:42:33 PM
Actually that is not what we are discussing. It is for people who were out of place, ahead of their time, and/or weird.
Yeah, so turns out she was not out of place at all but utilized for a myth that was very much from that time and place.
Thing is, they didn't just go pick her up. She came to them. And she wasn't actually from Lorraine. Nor did the French "dispense" with her. She was captured in combat. So not much of Viking's theory holds up.
Not sure how any of that conflicts with her being grounded in that time and place rather than someone who shows up on the scene with something novel and new.
Well if the myth was for a different place that sorts alters it doesn't it?
Quote from: Ed Anger on September 12, 2013, 05:06:09 PM
I'd go back in time and buttfuck Joan of Arc.
ugh, pretty much any chick from that far back was bound to be crawling with lice, probably had worms, bedbugs, etc. :x
Quote from: Caliga on September 12, 2013, 06:17:08 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on September 12, 2013, 05:06:09 PM
I'd go back in time and buttfuck Joan of Arc.
ugh, pretty much any chick from that far back was bound to be crawling with lice, probably had worms, bedbugs, etc. :x
You know, if I was able to time travel, I'd think I'd have something to use against critters.
Quote from: Caliga on September 12, 2013, 06:17:08 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on September 12, 2013, 05:06:09 PM
I'd go back in time and buttfuck Joan of Arc.
ugh, pretty much any chick from that far back was bound to be crawling with lice, probably had worms, bedbugs, etc. :x
I have it on good authority that they all resemble Racquel Welch. :mad:
Quote from: crazy canuck on September 12, 2013, 05:04:57 PM
Quote from: mongers on September 12, 2013, 04:44:39 PM
I'm a time traveller, but the mechanism now appears broken and I'm stranded in the 'shit age'.
And like a typical time traveller you didnt bring sufficient money with you to cover such emergencies. You guys are all the same.
You know, I've always wondered what the first few days of time travel would be like, before your superior Future Person capabilities could be brought to bear upon the illiterate and weak-boned people that populated the past.
I mean, your debit card ain't gonna work. And even if you brought a suitcase full of cash, unless you're jumping back to 2002, it won't look the same and will be considered an inept forgery.
I guess you'd have to bring gold, diamonds, that sort of thing. Finally, a milieu where hard money enthusiasm makes even one troy ounce of sense.
Good thing I have silver available to me. Being a total sucker taking it as repayment for a loan. :homestar:
Take back a handful of pepper packets.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on September 12, 2013, 07:42:58 PM
Take back a handful of pepper packets.
I'll raid a Burger King.
I HAVE KETCHUP, YOU PRIMITIVE SCREWHEADS!
If time travel is possible, then it's happening 'now' and always has happened.
Quote from: mongers on September 12, 2013, 07:45:57 PM
If time travel is possible, then it's happening 'now' and always has happened.
Not necessarily.
Quote from: garbon on September 12, 2013, 07:49:43 PM
Not necessarily.
The only ways not is if it's scientifically possible but never gets discovered for all of eternity, or if it's scientifically possible but only for relatively short jumps in time.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on September 12, 2013, 07:55:34 PM
Quote from: garbon on September 12, 2013, 07:49:43 PM
Not necessarily.
The only ways not is if it's scientifically possible but never gets discovered for all of eternity, or if it's scientifically possible but only for relatively short jumps in time.
I guess it depends on what now means as well. Time travelers could decide that we were such a bleak and cultural wasteland that they have no interest in visiting.
A wasteland that's bleak and cultural? :hmm:
I just looked up cultural wasteland to get you a proper cite and Canada is a cultural wasteland was the 3rd hit. :D
Again, we are traveling through time right now. Admittedly we are traveling at the same pace, and in the same direction except for Siege who seems to have reverse the arrow of time and is going backwards.
Quote from: Ed Anger on September 12, 2013, 07:44:42 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on September 12, 2013, 07:42:58 PM
Take back a handful of pepper packets.
I'll raid a Burger King.
I HAVE KETCHUP, YOU PRIMITIVE SCREWHEADS!
But do you have the "Fancy Ketchup" from McDonald's?
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wanzie.com%2Fwanzegram%2F012910%2Ffancy.jpg&hash=f450ce2a126bd28f391c3f7d9da2393d5ef5e46d)
I DIDNT THINK SO
:(
Quote from: garbon on September 12, 2013, 08:01:26 PM
I just looked up cultural wasteland to get you a proper cite and Canada is a cultural wasteland was the 3rd hit. :D
You meant "bleak cultural wasteland." Bleak and cultural wasteland means it's both bleak and cultural. :secret:
Quote from: Admiral Yi on September 12, 2013, 08:09:55 PM
Quote from: garbon on September 12, 2013, 08:01:26 PM
I just looked up cultural wasteland to get you a proper cite and Canada is a cultural wasteland was the 3rd hit. :D
You meant "bleak cultural wasteland." Bleak and cultural wasteland means it's both bleak and cultural. :secret:
It's like living in an Eastern European film.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on September 12, 2013, 08:09:55 PM
Quote from: garbon on September 12, 2013, 08:01:26 PM
I just looked up cultural wasteland to get you a proper cite and Canada is a cultural wasteland was the 3rd hit. :D
You meant "bleak cultural wasteland." Bleak and cultural wasteland means it's both bleak and cultural. :secret:
Okay sure. You won the point that I should not have put in a conjunction. :mellow:
Quote from: lustindarkness on September 12, 2013, 04:59:41 PM
Jules Verne and H G Wells may have done some time travel.
Probably Aldous Huxley rather than Wells. ;)
I'd go back in time and stop Sean Connery from doing League of Extraordinay Gentleman.
Quote from: garbon on September 12, 2013, 08:16:58 PM
Okay sure. You won the point that I should not have put in a conjunction. :mellow:
Glad you finally got it. :mellow:
Quote from: Admiral Yi on September 12, 2013, 08:48:27 PM
Quote from: garbon on September 12, 2013, 08:16:58 PM
Okay sure. You won the point that I should not have put in a conjunction. :mellow:
Glad you finally got it. :mellow:
Don't know why that was so important, g.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 12, 2013, 08:03:58 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on September 12, 2013, 07:44:42 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on September 12, 2013, 07:42:58 PM
Take back a handful of pepper packets.
I'll raid a Burger King.
I HAVE KETCHUP, YOU PRIMITIVE SCREWHEADS!
But do you have the "Fancy Ketchup" from McDonald's?
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wanzie.com%2Fwanzegram%2F012910%2Ffancy.jpg&hash=f450ce2a126bd28f391c3f7d9da2393d5ef5e46d)
I DIDNT THINK SO
He should find a Whataburger and stash some "Spicy Ketchup" instead.
Quote from: Viking on September 10, 2013, 08:44:48 AM
I'd say being locked up in a castle makes you a political pawn. Lucretia died at age 39 in childbirth - which was not young for that time.
That was pretty young even then, especially for an aristocrat.
Quote from: crazy canuck on September 12, 2013, 05:04:05 PM
Quote from: Valmy on September 12, 2013, 04:42:33 PM
Actually that is not what we are discussing. It is for people who were out of place, ahead of their time, and/or weird.
Yeah, so turns out she was not out of place at all but utilized for a myth that was very much from that time and place.
You think? The only thing I conceded on was that it was a weird and remarkable story. I mean the idea a teenage farm girl would be given command on an army today is absurd...or any other time and place besides that one really. That is what makes it weird. And it is more complicated than Viking gives it credit for IMO.
Quote from: Razgovory on September 12, 2013, 08:01:41 PM
Again, we are traveling through time right now. Admittedly we are traveling at the same pace, and in the same direction except for Siege who seems to have reverse the arrow of time and is going backwards.
Fly more or live at higher altitudes if you want to change the pace of your time travel.
So really, we are all time travelers, just in one direction.
Quote from: lustindarkness on September 13, 2013, 09:14:48 AM
So really, we are all time travelers, just in one direction.
Except Siege.