Poll
Question:
What is the highest level of education you've completed?
Option 1: Didn't complete high school
votes: 1
Option 2: High school diploma
votes: 3
Option 3: Some college no degree
votes: 8
Option 4: Associates degree (or equivalent)
votes: 4
Option 5: Bachelors degree (or equivalent)
votes: 15
Option 6: Some graduate work, no degree
votes: 4
Option 7: Masters/Professional degree (or equivalent)
votes: 18
Option 8: JD (or equivalent)
votes: 7
Option 9: Doctorate (or equivalent)
votes: 4
I know it's a standard question on job applications, at least in the US, so sorry if I've traumatized anyone. After the IQ by Major thread I was wondering how many people had graduate degrees.
I have a Masters of Science in Electrical Engineering.
Obviously a level of education that is unable to secure employment.
Long enough to reach the ground.
Master of Science in Information Systems
None of the choices apply. Unlike Seedy, I live in functional country so I have a job.
Related question: do you work in the field that your formal education is for?
I have a M.Sc. in Engineering Physics. I guess I work in that field, though not in Nuclear Physics which was my focus.
Quote from: The Brain on August 30, 2013, 02:22:08 PM
I have a M.Sc. in Engineering Physics. I guess I work in that field, though not in Nuclear Physics which was my focus.
:o
Quote from: Admiral Yi on August 30, 2013, 02:23:36 PM
Quote from: The Brain on August 30, 2013, 02:22:08 PM
I have a M.Sc. in Engineering Physics. I guess I work in that field, though not in Nuclear Physics which was my focus.
:o
The nuclear power and related sectors have very little to do with nuclear physics, since the nuclear physics involved is very well known and has been for decades.
Nuclear physicists study exotic nuclei and shit that are of no interest to a nuclear power plant or similar installation.
Some college no degree. If I ever decided to torture myself like that again, and using credits from military service, I'm sure I could get a bachelors in a year or so.
Quote from: The Brain on August 30, 2013, 02:27:35 PM
The nuclear power and related sectors have very little to do with nuclear physics, since the nuclear physics involved is very well known and has been for decades.
Nuclear physicists study exotic nuclei and shit that are of no interest to a nuclear power plant or similar installation.
So in brief, you're a homo.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on August 30, 2013, 02:33:22 PM
Quote from: The Brain on August 30, 2013, 02:27:35 PM
The nuclear power and related sectors have very little to do with nuclear physics, since the nuclear physics involved is very well known and has been for decades.
Nuclear physicists study exotic nuclei and shit that are of no interest to a nuclear power plant or similar installation.
So in brief, you're a homo.
Duh.
I have a bachelor's degree, and I'm working on an associates now. Where does that fall? :unsure:
I have a BSEE and two classes from an aborted MSSE. I keep agonizing over the idea of doing an MSEE or MSCmpE. I really want back into hardware, but I'm not sure the Masters will get me there and the logistics of doing a degree intimidate me right now.
Quote from: merithyn on August 30, 2013, 02:43:40 PM
I have a bachelor's degree, and I'm working on an associates now. Where does that fall? :unsure:
Bachelors degree (or equivalent)
Quote from: Savonarola on August 30, 2013, 02:48:02 PM
Quote from: merithyn on August 30, 2013, 02:43:40 PM
I have a bachelor's degree, and I'm working on an associates now. Where does that fall? :unsure:
Bachelors degree (or equivalent)
Well, I also have two graduate level classes. :P
I have associates, working on bachelor's.
Meri should have her own poll choice.
Quote from: lustindarkness on August 30, 2013, 02:31:57 PM
Some college no degree. If I ever decided to torture myself like that again, and using credits from military service, I'm sure I could get a bachelors in a year or so.
Same.
Msc. in public administration. I work as a civil servant.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on August 30, 2013, 02:57:51 PM
Meri should have her own poll choice.
Just let me choose three options. :sleep:
LL.B for me - I guess that fits in the JD slot. ;)
My dad has a bizzare degree they give in the UK, a "Doctor of Science", which is a degree above a "doctorate". I was there when he got it (I think I was 12 or so). He was the only person getting that degree that year. Everyone else at the graduation ceremony - some thousands of students - was wearing black; my dad was wearing a robe of crimson and yellow silk. He stood out in the crowd. :lol:
Quote from: Malthus on August 30, 2013, 03:34:38 PM
LL.B for me - I guess that fits in the JD slot. ;)
My dad has a bizzare degree they give in the UK, a "Doctor of Science", which is a degree above a "doctorate". I was there when he got it (I think I was 12 or so). He was the only person getting that degree that year. Everyone else at the graduation ceremony - some thousands of students - was wearing black; my dad was wearing a robe of crimson and yellow silk. He stood out in the crowd. :lol:
Honorary degree?
Quote from: Admiral Yi on August 30, 2013, 03:36:48 PM
Quote from: Malthus on August 30, 2013, 03:34:38 PM
LL.B for me - I guess that fits in the JD slot. ;)
My dad has a bizzare degree they give in the UK, a "Doctor of Science", which is a degree above a "doctorate". I was there when he got it (I think I was 12 or so). He was the only person getting that degree that year. Everyone else at the graduation ceremony - some thousands of students - was wearing black; my dad was wearing a robe of crimson and yellow silk. He stood out in the crowd. :lol:
Honorary degree?
Nah, you gotta' pay 1000 pounds for it. ;)
http://www3.imperial.ac.uk/registry/currentstudents/dsc
Quote from: Malthus on August 30, 2013, 03:34:38 PM
LL.B for me - I guess that fits in the JD slot. ;)
My dad has a bizzare degree they give in the UK, a "Doctor of Science", which is a degree above a "doctorate". I was there when he got it (I think I was 12 or so). He was the only person getting that degree that year. Everyone else at the graduation ceremony - some thousands of students - was wearing black; my dad was wearing a robe of crimson and yellow silk. He stood out in the crowd. :lol:
I had forgotten about Higher Doctorates and Habilation they have in some countries. :Embarrass:
Quote from: Admiral Yi on August 30, 2013, 03:36:48 PM
Quote from: Malthus on August 30, 2013, 03:34:38 PM
LL.B for me - I guess that fits in the JD slot. ;)
My dad has a bizzare degree they give in the UK, a "Doctor of Science", which is a degree above a "doctorate". I was there when he got it (I think I was 12 or so). He was the only person getting that degree that year. Everyone else at the graduation ceremony - some thousands of students - was wearing black; my dad was wearing a robe of crimson and yellow silk. He stood out in the crowd. :lol:
Honorary degree?
Nope. It's an earned degree, awarded based on a portfolio of established research work (though in some places it can be awarded as an honorary degree).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor_of_Science#The_United_Kingdom.2C_Ireland_and_the_Commonwealth
There is no equivalent here in North America, far as I know - here, a doctorate is a doctorate, whether in science or a PhD, they are considered equivalent.
Associates. And I only got that because my former employer payed for 75% of the cost.
I'm doomed if I try to re-enter the job market.
Quote from: Savonarola on August 30, 2013, 03:41:16 PM
Quote from: Malthus on August 30, 2013, 03:34:38 PM
LL.B for me - I guess that fits in the JD slot. ;)
My dad has a bizzare degree they give in the UK, a "Doctor of Science", which is a degree above a "doctorate". I was there when he got it (I think I was 12 or so). He was the only person getting that degree that year. Everyone else at the graduation ceremony - some thousands of students - was wearing black; my dad was wearing a robe of crimson and yellow silk. He stood out in the crowd. :lol:
I had forgotten about Higher Doctorates and Habilation they have in some countries. :Embarrass:
I think that the lack won't make too great a difference here. :D
It is sort of interesting that with all the dead sheep on the forum we don't have a single PhD.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on August 30, 2013, 03:45:15 PM
It is sort of interesting that with all the dead sheep on the forum we don't have a single PhD.
Isn't Oex a PhD? :unsure:
I almost became a sandwich artist.
BSCS :)
Quote from: Admiral Yi on August 30, 2013, 03:45:15 PM
It is sort of interesting that with all the dead sheep on the forum we don't have a single PhD.
I'm pretty sure PDH is a Ph.D.
Quote from: Ideologue on August 30, 2013, 03:53:23 PM
I'm pretty sure PDH is a Ph.D.
I'm inclined to believe otherwise.
Agree with Yi
At least we are sure he is a PDH, right? :unsure:
Quote from: Ideologue on August 30, 2013, 03:53:23 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on August 30, 2013, 03:45:15 PM
It is sort of interesting that with all the dead sheep on the forum we don't have a single PhD.
I'm pretty sure PDH is a Ph.D.
Just an MA. :)
Isn't he like a tenured professor? WTF is this shit?
Yeah, only two MAs here - One in History, t'other in Anthropology. The coursework in Anthro and History applies toward a PhD program should I desire to complete this. It would take me a year of schooling plus the damned writing to get that FuD.
Quote from: Ideologue on August 30, 2013, 04:05:00 PM
Isn't he like a tenured professor? WTF is this shit?
Jesus, do you never read TBR?
I am an adjunct.
Quote from: PDH on August 30, 2013, 04:05:20 PM
Yeah, only two MAs here - One in History, t'other in Anthropology. The coursework in Anthro and History applies toward a PhD program should I desire to complete this. It would take me a year of schooling plus the damned writing to get that FuD.
If you got it, what good would it do you?
Quote from: PDH on August 30, 2013, 04:05:20 PM
Yeah, only two MAs here - One in History, t'other in Anthropology. The coursework in Anthro and History applies toward a PhD program should I desire to complete this. It would take me a year of schooling plus the damned writing to get that FuD.
Didn't realize that it was two MAs. I just knew you were smart without the paper. :hug:
Quote from: Valmy on August 30, 2013, 04:06:15 PM
Quote from: PDH on August 30, 2013, 04:05:20 PM
Yeah, only two MAs here - One in History, t'other in Anthropology. The coursework in Anthro and History applies toward a PhD program should I desire to complete this. It would take me a year of schooling plus the damned writing to get that FuD.
If you got it, what good would it do you?
Exactly. In the 20 years since my MA in History there are about 10 million new PhD winners. I gave up the race long ago and I get to teach History without having to go to staff meetings.
Here, it's an education. :cool:
Quote from: Ideologue on August 30, 2013, 04:05:00 PM
Isn't he like a tenured professor? WTF is this shit?
I'm barely educated and I teach classes. Suck it.
Bachelor's in History, Masters in Education.
Associate in Science, Computer Science/Information Systems.
If things ever settle down enough for me, I'll try to matriculate as much of that as possible into a BS in Information Security.
Man, a Masters really is the new Bachelors. :mellow:
Quote from: Admiral Yi on August 30, 2013, 06:54:36 PM
Man, a Masters really is the new Bachelors. :mellow:
Ahhhhyup, they're not bullshitting. From all my job searches, regardless of position, it's "preferred", i.e., "we'll actually take a moment to look at your resume, as opposed to the rest of the mooks." That's why I'm getting mine.
Did you ever get one or any work done after Ewingland?
Quote from: CountDeMoney on August 30, 2013, 07:11:36 PM
Did you ever get one or any work done after Ewingland?
I got a Masters in Public Policy at the Kennedy School of Government at Harvard.
And you're employed. See? They really do matter. :D
:yeah:
We have a doctor on the forum, so we atleast got 1 doctorate.
We have two doctors, but they both breeze in here like one afternoon a month at most.
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on August 30, 2013, 07:38:35 PM
We have two doctors, but they both breeze in here like one afternoon a month at most.
Promise you won't do that if you become a doctor.
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on August 30, 2013, 07:38:35 PM
We have two doctors, but they both breeze in here like one afternoon a month at most.
Who's on second?
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on August 30, 2013, 07:38:35 PM
We have two doctors, but they both breeze in here like one afternoon a month at most.
How about Hamilcar? That dude had one hell of a boner for his alma mater. I seem to recall lots of Oxford this and Oxford that.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on August 30, 2013, 07:44:07 PM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on August 30, 2013, 07:38:35 PM
We have two doctors, but they both breeze in here like one afternoon a month at most.
Who's on second?
Lucidor and Fate.
@Carrot- meant MDs only
I'm perplexed - I have a LL.B., but I really don't consider that in any way equivalent to a JD. :hmm:
Quote from: Barrister on August 30, 2013, 08:50:49 PM
I'm perplexed - I have a LL.B., but I really don't consider that in any way equivalent to a JD. :hmm:
That's OK, neither do we.
I'm a master.
Level of education means very little about somebody's intelect, it just means you could afford/felt like sitting through x years of school.
Quote from: Tyr on August 30, 2013, 09:11:56 PM
I'm a master.
Level of education means very little about somebody's intelect, it just means you could afford/felt like sitting through x years of school.
Depends entirely on what one studies, and what one does while doing that studying.
Quote from: Tyr on August 30, 2013, 09:11:56 PM
I'm a master.
Level of education means very little about somebody's intelect, it just means you could afford/felt like sitting through x years of school.
I don't know man. I feel better knowing the guy operating on me has a medical degree.
I feel better knowing the guy teaching History at least has an MA :)
Quote from: Malthus on August 30, 2013, 03:34:38 PM
LL.B for me - I guess that fits in the JD slot. ;)
My dad has a bizzare degree they give in the UK, a "Doctor of Science", which is a degree above a "doctorate". I was there when he got it (I think I was 12 or so). He was the only person getting that degree that year. Everyone else at the graduation ceremony - some thousands of students - was wearing black; my dad was wearing a robe of crimson and yellow silk. He stood out in the crowd. :lol:
One of my teachers at school had that. He had started quite recently at the school and had not really made an impact. But, at the annual prize-giving he stole the show in his fancy robes, from then on he was known as "Boris" and became rather popular :cool:
Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on August 31, 2013, 01:27:49 AM
One of my teachers at school had that. He had started quite recently at the school and had not really made an impact. But, at the annual prize-giving he stole the show in his fancy robes, from then on he was known as "Boris" and became rather popular :cool:
:lol:
I was wondering if a Higher Degree actually meant anything in the UK system. I believe that Habilation is required for a full professorship at German universities (or at least was at one time.)
Quote from: Barrister on August 30, 2013, 08:50:49 PM
I'm perplexed - I have a LL.B., but I really don't consider that in any way equivalent to a JD. :hmm:
Please put down JD. I was trying to separate out the lawyers and didn't realize the LL.B. was that different from the JD.
Quote from: Tyr on August 30, 2013, 09:11:56 PM
I'm a master.
Level of education means very little about somebody's intelect, it just means you could afford/felt like sitting through x years of school.
It's not about intellect, but self awareness:
The Bachelors is awarded when one thinks he knows everything
The Masters is awarded after one realizes he knows nothing
The Doctorate is awarded after one realizes one know nothing, but neither does anyone else
Quote from: Savonarola on August 31, 2013, 10:03:03 AMI was wondering if a Higher Degree actually meant anything in the UK system. I believe that Habilation is required for a full professorship at German universities (or at least was at one time.)
It still is, at least in parts of central and eastern Europe. I would need a habilitation to be a professor here in the Czech Republic (and I think it's the same in Poland). I can't get one though, as you need to do some teaching to get it. However I probably will try to get the DrSc, which I think is meant to work like a habilitation but for research only. It should be a matter of just stapling some papers together and writing a summary.
Quote from: Savonarola on August 31, 2013, 10:10:39 AM
The Bachelors is awarded when one thinks he knows everything
The Masters is awarded after one realizes he knows nothing
The Doctorate is awarded after one realizes one know nothing, but neither does anyone else
Had a professor once that said he started college at 18, and never left. Bachelors, Masters, PhD candidate...said he's never had a real job.
At least he was honest.
Quote from: Savonarola on August 31, 2013, 10:06:09 AM
Quote from: Barrister on August 30, 2013, 08:50:49 PM
I'm perplexed - I have a LL.B., but I really don't consider that in any way equivalent to a JD. :hmm:
Please put down JD. I was trying to separate out the lawyers and didn't realize the LL.B. was that different from the JD.
It's not. Beeb is being extremely and irrationally difficult, probably because he got a legal education which, if nothing else, does teach those skills.
Quote from: Savonarola on August 31, 2013, 10:06:09 AM
Quote from: Barrister on August 30, 2013, 08:50:49 PM
I'm perplexed - I have a LL.B., but I really don't consider that in any way equivalent to a JD. :hmm:
Please put down JD. I was trying to separate out the lawyers and didn't realize the LL.B. was that different from the JD.
Sorry, you've just marched into a pet peeve of mine. In the last 10 years all Canadian schools have switched from granting LL.B.s to JDs. I detest the notion. It ignores our UK heritage of course, but more than that - the focus should be on the "law" part, not the title of bachelor or doctor.
I'm pretty sure all the Yanqui Peegdog lawyers here would attest that their US law school educations focused on the law.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on August 31, 2013, 11:34:16 PM
I'm pretty sure all the Yanqui Peegdog lawyers here would attest that their US law school educations focused on the law.
Then why are they so adamant about calling themselves "doctors". :contract:
God, it's such a boring thing to argue about. Fine, you have an LL.B. I've moved on.
Now we're at 4 fuds. Who has been sandbagging? :ph34r:
I see katmai finally voted.
Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on August 31, 2013, 01:27:49 AM
Quote from: Malthus on August 30, 2013, 03:34:38 PM
LL.B for me - I guess that fits in the JD slot. ;)
My dad has a bizzare degree they give in the UK, a "Doctor of Science", which is a degree above a "doctorate". I was there when he got it (I think I was 12 or so). He was the only person getting that degree that year. Everyone else at the graduation ceremony - some thousands of students - was wearing black; my dad was wearing a robe of crimson and yellow silk. He stood out in the crowd. :lol:
One of my teachers at school had that. He had started quite recently at the school and had not really made an impact. But, at the annual prize-giving he stole the show in his fancy robes, from then on he was known as "Boris" and became rather popular :cool:
:lol:
Quote from: CountDeMoney on August 31, 2013, 11:11:46 AM
Had a professor once that said he started college at 18, and never left. Bachelors, Masters, PhD candidate...said he's never had a real job.
At least he was honest.
I had a cousin who did that in psychology. When she was 31 she got her first job as a counselor at a college campus only to discover she hated her job because all the people she dealt with had problems. She teaches yoga and dance therapy now.
Bachelors in math. Could've probably gotten a PhD with less effort than it took me to not get an actuarial designation yet. :(
Have an associates degree and i'm working on a bachelors degree. Once done i'll have a accounting designation which I guess is a Professional degree for the purposes of this poll. voted associates degree as that's the only one I've completed thus far.
Quote from: DGuller on September 02, 2013, 05:34:07 PM
Bachelors in math. Could've probably gotten a PhD with less effort than it took me to not get an actuarial designation yet. :(
designations suck and I feel your pain.
Quote from: Ideologue on September 01, 2013, 12:29:07 AM
God, it's such a boring thing to argue about. Fine, you have an LL.B. I've moved on.
It's worth it, just to be able to call you "Dr. Ide". :D
Sounds like a dyslexic afghani Bond villain.
Quote from: Malthus on September 03, 2013, 09:46:27 AM
Quote from: Ideologue on September 01, 2013, 12:29:07 AM
God, it's such a boring thing to argue about. Fine, you have an LL.B. I've moved on.
It's worth it, just to be able to call you "Dr. Ide". :D
No one does that. I've heard of one person, ever, insisting on "doctor" due to a JD. He was reportedly widely hated.
Hey, he worked harder for his title than Dr Dre did.
Quote from: Ideologue on September 03, 2013, 02:43:32 PM
No one does that. I've heard of one person, ever, insisting on "doctor" due to a JD. He was reportedly widely hated.
I've had JDs as political science instructors at
college university; they didn't specifically ask to be addressed as "Dr", but they didn't mind it, either.
If they didn't correct you, they're probably assholes.
I mean, all of my teachers were JDs. The only one I didn't just call "professor" was the one I called "judge" (because he was a judge). I certainly didn't call any of them "doctor," because they have not earned that title.
Quote from: Ideologue on September 03, 2013, 02:43:32 PM
Quote from: Malthus on September 03, 2013, 09:46:27 AM
Quote from: Ideologue on September 01, 2013, 12:29:07 AM
God, it's such a boring thing to argue about. Fine, you have an LL.B. I've moved on.
It's worth it, just to be able to call you "Dr. Ide". :D
No one does that. I've heard of one person, ever, insisting on "doctor" due to a JD. He was reportedly widely hated.
That's what makes it fun. :P