2016 elections - because it's never too early

Started by merithyn, May 09, 2013, 07:37:45 AM

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HisMajestyBOB

Anyone watch the Benghazi hearing?
I didn't watch it myself, but it appears that it was 11 hours of Republicans flailing about trying unsuccessfully to get something, anything to stick.
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DGuller

Wow, Hillary is going from one good news to another all this week.

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Berkut

Quote from: DGuller on October 23, 2015, 09:42:28 AM
Wow, Hillary is going from one good news to another all this week.

Yeah, the Republicans really stepped on their dick with that one.

Eleven hours? Couldn't they tell this was a losing deal after say, 6 hours?
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Quote from: Berkut on October 23, 2015, 09:55:36 AM
Quote from: DGuller on October 23, 2015, 09:42:28 AM
Wow, Hillary is going from one good news to another all this week.

Yeah, the Republicans really stepped on their dick with that one.

Eleven hours? Couldn't they tell this was a losing deal after say, 6 hours?

Refusing the concede anything has been their entire political strategy for years :P
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Quote from: Berkut on October 23, 2015, 09:55:36 AM
Quote from: DGuller on October 23, 2015, 09:42:28 AM
Wow, Hillary is going from one good news to another all this week.

Yeah, the Republicans really stepped on their dick with that one.

Eleven hours? Couldn't they tell this was a losing deal after say, 6 hours?

I watched some of it.  It was really pitiful.  Often the Republicans just created scenarios told Clinton that was what they thought happened.  We don't need hearings for that.  This is like the 8th investigation, I don't know why they think it would end differently then the others.
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Any bets on the Republican primary?  Will Trump or Carson win Iowa?

OttoVonBismarck

No GOP candidate has a meaningful chance, this is probably going to be the longest "coronation" in American Presidential history, or at the very least outside of FDR's re-elections. I think Hillary may do a little worse than Barack because I think the unprecedented minority turnout under Obama had a racial component that won't be present in 2016, but it won't be enough to give the electoral college to the Republicans. Even with lower turnout the GOP went from at least getting enough Hispanic and black votes in 2004 that they could remain competitive even with shifting demographics to being a party that is electorally dead in the electoral college probably for a generation. Bush may have arguably caused problems for the party with some of the more unpopular parts of his presidency but he got 44% of the hispanic vote in 2004, numbers like that and Romney is President today and whoever is running against Clinton likely wins too, but instead the GOP has repeatedly adopted policies to maximally alienate Hispanics and even the relatively few blacks who voted GOP (often around 10% in pre-Obama elections to like 2% now.)

OttoVonBismarck

The way the caucuses work make them notoriously difficult to poll and predict in general. Part of the reason people didn't take Obama seriously against Hillary until late is because there wasn't a realization of how well he had organized in the caucus states (which he often won with commanding leads and subsequently collected huge delegate margins in.)