2016 elections - because it's never too early

[Valmy]

But loads of black people had been saying what he was saying for years. He just got attention and adulation for it.

Black communities are constantly and consistently addressing the issue of black crime in black neighborhoods every day, from churches to neighborhood communities to schools.   But not everybody lives in that world every day--and nationally-recognized names like Bill Cosby, or nationally-recognized organizations like Rainbow Coalition, get the nationally-recognized headlines that grass-roots community activists don't.

White people notice what Bill Cosby has to say in a New York Times op-ed;  they don't always notice what's going on every day in cities at the neighborhood level, where communities work the problem every day, block by block.

Well neither does anybody else who doesn't live in the area.

I heard Cosby, and those like him, were basically echoing the conservative message of Booker T Washington and other black "conservatives" have been saying for decades.  Who knows?

[Valmy]

The only novel thing about Cosby's speeches was that white people noticed.

Eh he is a celebrity. That is how it goes.

[Tonitrus]

*picture of blissfully ignorant white couple driving and texting*

Don't you have a citation to write for that, base cop?

Huh?  You can't text as a passenger now?

I've heard of coworkers get ticketed by base cops for eating while driving (e.g "distracted driving" being the offense).  Grandpa looks pretty distracted.

[11B4V]

*picture of blissfully ignorant white couple driving and texting*

Don't you have a citation to write for that, base cop?

Huh?  You can't text as a passenger now?

I've heard of coworkers get ticketed by base cops for eating while driving (e.g "distracted driving" being the offense).  Grandpa looks pretty distracted.

Depends

[Admiral Yi]

You ticket people for wearing Depends while driving? 

[Tonitrus]

*picture of blissfully ignorant white couple driving and texting*

Don't you have a citation to write for that, base cop?

Huh?  You can't text as a passenger now?

I've heard of coworkers get ticketed by base cops for eating while driving (e.g "distracted driving" being the offense).  Grandpa looks pretty distracted.

Depends

Could just be that they were USAF Security Forces.  Air police can be pretty dopey sometimes. 

[11B4V]

You ticket people for wearing Depends while driving? 

Depends

[CountDeMoney]

 

[Eddie Teach]

Could just be that they were USAF Security Forces.  Air police can be pretty dopey sometimes. 

"Air police"? Were your friends driving flying cars?

[Tonitrus]

Could just be that they were USAF Security Forces.  Air police can be pretty dopey sometimes. 

"Air police"? Were your friends driving flying cars?

That's just what they were called back in the 1950's. 

[dps]

The only novel thing about Cosby's speeches was that white people noticed.

Eh he is a celebrity. That is how it goes.

Yeah, like how we got to hear what Meryl Streep thought about Alar.  The opinions of celebrities get into the news.

[grumbler]

Black communities are constantly and consistently addressing the issue of black crime in black neighborhoods every day, from churches to neighborhood communities to schools.   But not everybody lives in that world every day--and nationally-recognized names like Bill Cosby, or nationally-recognized organizations like Rainbow Coalition, get the nationally-recognized headlines that grass-roots community activists don't.

White people notice what Bill Cosby has to say in a New York Times op-ed;  they don't always notice what's going on every day in cities at the neighborhood level, where communities work the problem every day, block by block.

Fair enough and you're right. But from what I know there's nothing new in his message compared to Washington or Garvey or Malcolm X, or that it's somehow  a shocking, unheard of sentiment:
http://www.pewresearch.org/2008/07/14/obamas-black-audience/ (I'd be intrigued to see those trust in the police figures now)

But it's Giuliani I suppose.

I don't think gansta rap and the whole glorification of violence culture even existed when Washington, Garvey, or Malcolm X were getting out their message.  Maybe it did, though, and we all (except you) just missed it

[CountDeMoney]

grumbler not only remembers the destabilizing effects of jazz on youth, but the impact of opera not in Italian *gasp*.

[Berkut]

It doesn't seem to be working.

Violent crime statistics have been dropping in predominantly black communities at the same rate as violent crime statistics everywhere else.  But no, I suppose it wouldn't "seem" to be working, as anything otherwise would affect the narrative.

That is great, but since crime stats for blacks are much higher than "everywhere else" seeing them fall at the same rate means that whatever efforts are being made specific to that problem are not, in fact, working.

I don't care about narrative's and certainly don't care about YOUR narrative, which is rather grotesque. But I do care about results.

[CountDeMoney]

That is great, but since crime stats for blacks are much higher than "everywhere else" seeing them fall at the same rate means that whatever efforts are being made specific to that problem are not, in fact, working.

I don't care about narrative's and certainly don't care about YOUR narrative, which is rather grotesque. But I do care about results.

That black crime is somehow separate and distinct from other crime implies that not only they are the ones at fault for it, they are the only ones that can fix it.  But no, out of touch assholes like you still want to frame it that way. 
If you didn't care about narratives, then we would be reading about your faux concern over results about white violence and male violence as well.   But we aren't.


Anyway, I've had enough of your nasty ass bullshit, Jeff.  Never put a poster on Ignore before, but you're the first, asshole.