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2016 elections - because it's never too early

Started by merithyn, May 09, 2013, 07:37:45 AM

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jimmy olsen

#3765
January 20, 2016, 11:11:54 AM
Quote from: Malthus on January 20, 2016, 10:52:14 AM
I have a horrible feeling that Sanders will win the Democratic nomination. Trump will win the Republican, and that Trump will then go on to win the election.  :(

Please convince me this won't happen.

Sanders would beat Trump, and be a toss up against Cruz, he'd be crushed by any of the establishment candidates though.
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DGuller

#3766
January 20, 2016, 11:13:14 AM
I have a lot of respect for Sanders.  Not often do people actually take on labels that are a political liability, and make it acceptable to the mainstream rather than replace the label with a euphemism.  And by all accounts he was a very pragmatic manager as a mayor.

That said, free market is a very powerful force, and one should buck it very selectively and for good reasons.  Not understanding this is why the liberals of old eventually got discredited, and had to become "progressives".  At least from his rhetoric, it doesn't sound like Sanders learned that lesson.  So I hope that if he does leave a lasting legacy, it will be focused more on denouncing crony capitalism than on his economically self-defeating ideas.

Monoriu

#3767
January 20, 2016, 11:14:17 AM
Quote from: alfred russel on January 20, 2016, 11:02:41 AM
Quote from: Valmy on January 20, 2016, 10:53:43 AM
I try not to think about it Malthus. Hilary Clinton is our only hope.

Man I never thought I would type those words.

This is why Yi caucusing for Hillary is so important. On this the fate of the republic depends.

None of us will have any impact on any election ever  :cool:

Valmy

#3768
January 20, 2016, 11:17:43 AM
Quote from: Monoriu on January 20, 2016, 11:14:17 AM
None of us will have any impact on any election ever  :cool:

Nonsense. I could, through immense personal effort, sway many local elections if I wanted to.
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Razgovory

#3769
January 20, 2016, 11:38:48 AM
Quote from: Monoriu on January 20, 2016, 11:14:17 AM
Quote from: alfred russel on January 20, 2016, 11:02:41 AM
Quote from: Valmy on January 20, 2016, 10:53:43 AM
I try not to think about it Malthus. Hilary Clinton is our only hope.

Man I never thought I would type those words.

This is why Yi caucusing for Hillary is so important. On this the fate of the republic depends.

None of us will have any impact on any election ever  :cool:

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Razgovory

#3770
January 20, 2016, 11:43:15 AM


http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/rick-wilson-donald-trump-single-men

GOP Strategist: Trump Supporters Are 'Single Men Who Masturbate To Anime'

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While explaining that he believes that Donald Trump's success in the Republican party does not mean that establishment conservatism is dying, GOP strategist Rick Wilson dismissed the "childless single men" who support Trump's presidential bid.

"The fact of the matter is, most of them are childless single men who masturbate to anime. They're not real political players. These are not people who matter in the overall course of humanity," Wilson said of Trump supporters on MSNBC's "All In with Chris Hayes."

"What's really driving the party, though, is still a limited government conservatism," Wilson continued. "We don't always get there by a straight line path. We don't always get there in a direct way. But that is still what drives this party."

Wilson insisted that Trump's rise will not doom the mainstream beliefs in the party.

"I don't think that this other stuff that Trump is toying with is really part of the mainstream conservative movement by any stretch of the imagination," he said.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/rick-wilson-donald-trump-single-men
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Eddie Teach

#3771
January 20, 2016, 11:44:04 AM
Quote from: Valmy on January 20, 2016, 11:17:43 AM
Nonsense. I could, through immense personal effort, sway many local elections if I wanted to.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MoJuaS5x14 :shifty:
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Legbiter

#3772
January 20, 2016, 11:50:21 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on January 20, 2016, 11:43:15 AM
Quote"The fact of the matter is, most of them are childless single men who masturbate to anime. They're not real political players. These are not people who matter in the overall course of humanity," Wilson said of Trump supporters on MSNBC's "All In with Chris Hayes."

"They matter so little that I'm talking about them on TV."  :hmm:
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Liep

#3773
January 20, 2016, 02:57:38 PM
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MadImmortalMan

#3774
January 20, 2016, 03:48:16 PM
I'm thinking it's not outside the realm of possibility that Palin suddenly popping up is intentional and designed to discredit Trump rather than support him.
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Barrister

#3775
January 20, 2016, 03:55:27 PM
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on January 20, 2016, 03:48:16 PM
I'm thinking it's not outside the realm of possibility that Palin suddenly popping up is intentional and designed to discredit Trump rather than support him.

Trump courted her, though.  She showed up at a Trump rally.
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Maximus

#3776
January 20, 2016, 04:11:14 PM
Quote from: Barrister on January 20, 2016, 03:55:27 PM
Trump courted her, though.  She showed up at a Trump rally.
She's his second-to-last-ditch exit strategy.

alfred russel

#3777
January 20, 2016, 04:49:59 PM
McCain has held his tongue regarding Palin, but you know he has to be pissed about the monster he created.
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lustindarkness

#3778
January 20, 2016, 04:53:46 PM
Quote from: alfred russel on January 20, 2016, 04:49:59 PM
McCain has held his tongue regarding Palin, but you know he has to be pissed about the monster he created.

I can see that.
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Fate

#3779
January 20, 2016, 05:35:06 PM
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on January 20, 2016, 03:48:16 PM
I'm thinking it's not outside the realm of possibility that Palin suddenly popping up is intentional and designed to discredit Trump rather than support him.
That is way too conspiratorial. Palin is a perfect endorsement for Trump and can only help him with the Walmart crowd.
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