British Esquire editor stands by comments: Women are ‘ornamental’—just like cars

Started by garbon, March 25, 2013, 01:57:33 PM

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garbon

The reason I ask is because as far as I know there are heterosexuals that engage in anal sex as well.  Do they also have an increase risk factor for contracting HIV and would you want to ban their sexual activity too?
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

derspiess

Quote from: garbon on March 26, 2013, 02:19:10 PM
The reason I ask is because as far as I know there are heterosexuals that engage in anal sex as well.  Do they also have an increase risk factor for contracting HIV and would you want to ban their sexual activity too?

I don't want to ban anything.  I was just posing the question to those who want to ban other unhealthy habits/activities.
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

garbon

Well I answered your question. And I guess you answered mine though I suppose your answer was more implicit in that your conflation was the result of laziness.
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

garbon

Also as far as I know (even if the legislation on sodas hadn't faced a challenge), it isn't illegal to eat trans fats, drink soda or smoke in New York.  There are just sensible limitations put in place on where you can purchase or engage in such activities.  Similarly there restrictions on where one can have anal sex.  In fact, I believe there are still criminal sanctions in place if you knowingly infect someone with HIV.
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

derspiess

Quote from: garbon on March 26, 2013, 02:27:55 PM
Also as far as I know (even if the legislation on sodas hadn't faced a challenge), it isn't illegal to eat trans fats, drink soda or smoke in New York.  There are just sensible limitations put in place on where you can purchase or engage in such activities.  Similarly there restrictions on where one can have anal sex.  In fact, I believe there are still criminal sanctions in place if you knowingly infect someone with HIV.

Now you're conflating public decency laws with public health laws.  When they start taxing bathhouses for unhealthy behavior, let me know.
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

garbon

Well a lot of bathhouses were already shutdown in the past. There are some now but I assume they have more standards on them than they ever had in the past (similar to how bars now get in trouble if it is discovered sex is taking place in a bar). I'm not that interested though, so I don't think I'm going to do research on it.
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

derspiess

"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

Malthus

Quote from: derspiess on March 26, 2013, 01:15:54 PM
So if we agree that buttsecs is a health risk, do those of you who agree with Bloomberg on trans fats, sugary sodas, cigarettes, etc. also think we should either tax or outlaw gayness?

Well, to make the Bloomburg-sugary soda comparison more exact, wouldn't the idea be to ban anal where the "active party" has an organ larger than a certain state-mandated maximum size?  :lol:

Only on Languish would the conversation over female objectification in Esquire take this turn.  :P
The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane—Marcus Aurelius

garbon

"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

frunk

Quote from: Malthus on March 26, 2013, 02:56:13 PM

Well, to make the Bloomburg-sugary soda comparison more exact, wouldn't the idea be to ban anal where the "active party" has an organ larger than a certain state-mandated maximum size?  :lol:

Only on Languish would the conversation over female objectification in Esquire take this turn.  :P

I believe that it's the container that has a maximum size, not the sticky stuff going into it.

Martinus

Quote from: derspiess on March 26, 2013, 02:22:50 PM
Quote from: garbon on March 26, 2013, 02:19:10 PM
The reason I ask is because as far as I know there are heterosexuals that engage in anal sex as well.  Do they also have an increase risk factor for contracting HIV and would you want to ban their sexual activity too?

I don't want to ban anything.  I was just posing the question to those who want to ban other unhealthy habits/activities.

Who are "those"? I am not aware of anyone who wants that on Languish.

Martinus

Quote from: derspiess on March 26, 2013, 01:53:44 PM
Quote from: garbon on March 26, 2013, 01:41:31 PM
Also, why are you conflating anal sex with homosexuality? :huh:

Wow, good question. 

I'm told that homosexual men tend to be quite fond of it.  Isn't that what contributes to their high risk factor for contracting HIV?

I hate it.

derspiess

Quote from: Martinus on March 26, 2013, 03:05:48 PM
Quote from: derspiess on March 26, 2013, 02:22:50 PM
Quote from: garbon on March 26, 2013, 02:19:10 PM
The reason I ask is because as far as I know there are heterosexuals that engage in anal sex as well.  Do they also have an increase risk factor for contracting HIV and would you want to ban their sexual activity too?

I don't want to ban anything.  I was just posing the question to those who want to ban other unhealthy habits/activities.

Who are "those"? I am not aware of anyone who wants that on Languish.

I don't think we ever did a full vote on the issue(s), but I thought grabon and Seedy indicated that they were sympathetic to Bloomberg on at least some of his ban-type measures. 
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

garbon

Quote from: derspiess on March 26, 2013, 03:09:29 PM
I don't think we ever did a full vote on the issue(s), but I thought grabon and Seedy indicated that they were sympathetic to Bloomberg on at least some of his ban-type measures. 

I'm entirely sympathetic.
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

Malthus

Quote from: frunk on March 26, 2013, 03:04:33 PM
Quote from: Malthus on March 26, 2013, 02:56:13 PM

Well, to make the Bloomburg-sugary soda comparison more exact, wouldn't the idea be to ban anal where the "active party" has an organ larger than a certain state-mandated maximum size?  :lol:

Only on Languish would the conversation over female objectification in Esquire take this turn.  :P

I believe that it's the container that has a maximum size, not the sticky stuff going into it.

Fine then.

But if the state gets around to banning giant assholes, Languish would be depopulated.  :P
The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane—Marcus Aurelius