British Esquire editor stands by comments: Women are ‘ornamental’—just like cars

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Razgovory

#75
March 26, 2013, 09:56:20 AM
Quote from: garbon on March 26, 2013, 07:29:27 AM
I don't think you're doing that right, Raze.

Yes, but that's because you are wrong.  There are of course other health risks in being gay.  For instance STD rates are like 4 times that of that straight people.  At least according to the CDC.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

derspiess

#76
March 26, 2013, 10:02:33 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on March 26, 2013, 09:56:20 AM
Quote from: garbon on March 26, 2013, 07:29:27 AM
I don't think you're doing that right, Raze.

Yes, but that's because you are wrong.  There are of course other health risks in being gay.  For instance STD rates are like 4 times that of that straight people.  At least according to the CDC.

You're not allowed to say that.
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

Razgovory

#77
March 26, 2013, 10:15:15 AM
I know!  That's what makes it so great!
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

garbon

#78
March 26, 2013, 10:49:27 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on March 26, 2013, 09:56:20 AM
Yes, but that's because you are wrong.  There are of course other health risks in being gay.  For instance STD rates are like 4 times that of that straight people.  At least according to the CDC.

You're right that's two sources: STDs and depression/anxiety. The only other potential one I can think about for gays might be body image issues but I think women probably have that in a much higher weight.  If you wanted to get really crazy, you could probably even throw in drug use and domestic abuse.

Meanwhile here's what wikipedia listed as issue with obesity.

ischemic heart disease
congestive heart failure
high blood pressure
abnormal cholesterol levels
deep vein thrombosis and pulmonary embolism
stretch marks
acanthosis nigricans
lymphedema
cellulitis
hirsutism
intertrigo
diabetes mellitus
polycystic ovarian syndrome
menstrual disorders
infertility
complications during pregnancy
birth defects
intrauterine fetal death
gastroesophageal reflux disease
fatty liver disease
cholelithiasis (gallstones)
stroke
meralgia paresthetica
migraines
carpal tunnel syndrome
dementia
idiopathic intracranial hypertension
multiple sclerosis
breast, ovarian
esophageal, colorectal
liver, pancreatic
gallbladder, stomach
endometrial, cervical
prostate, kidney
non-Hodgkin's lymphoma, multiple myeloma
depression in women
social stigmatization
Respirology
obstructive sleep apnea
obesity hypoventilation syndrome
asthma
increased complications during general anaesthesia
Rheumatology and Orthopedics
gout
poor mobility
osteoarthritis
low back pain
erectile dysfunction
urinary incontinence
chronic renal failure
hypogonadism
buried penis

So yeah, you're doing it wrong. :)
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

Razgovory

#79
March 26, 2013, 11:55:04 AM
I fail to see why.  Simply because one is less healthy then the other doesn't me they both don't have health consequences.  At no point did we make threshold of unhealthiness that had to be reached.   Besides how many people have died of "hirsutism"?  You are right about domestic violence, body image problems (anorexia etc), and drug use.  I'm fairly certain that more people have died from domestic violence then "stretch marks", though.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

CountDeMoney

#80
March 26, 2013, 12:02:25 PM
It's apparently a health risk in Wyoming.

Neil

#81
March 26, 2013, 12:05:37 PM
Pretty sure dementia is linked to gayness.
I do not hate you, nor do I love you, but you are made out of atoms which I can use for something else.

Razgovory

#82
March 26, 2013, 12:07:19 PM
Quote from: Neil on March 26, 2013, 12:05:37 PM
Pretty sure dementia is linked to gayness.

Also, "buried penis" sounds like it might be.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

dps

#83
March 26, 2013, 12:08:07 PM
Quote from: Neil on March 26, 2013, 12:05:37 PM
Pretty sure dementia is linked to gayness.

Not sure that someone whose mind is gone to the point that they can't tell men from women anymore should be labelled "gay".   Though they do say ignorance is bliss. 

Martinus

#84
March 26, 2013, 12:23:57 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on March 26, 2013, 12:02:25 PM
It's apparently a health risk in Wyoming.

Less so than being a cop in Baltimore.

CountDeMoney

#85
March 26, 2013, 12:26:21 PM
Quote from: Martinus on March 26, 2013, 12:23:57 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on March 26, 2013, 12:02:25 PM
It's apparently a health risk in Wyoming.

Less so than being a cop in Baltimore.

I wasn't being facetious.  But good ahead, keep being a cunt.  It becomes you.  Not as much as garbon, but at least he does it with style.

garbon

#86
March 26, 2013, 12:30:06 PM
Anyway, Raz, I don't agree with the Mart-Sheil connection that there is an issue with using fuller figured individuals on magazine covers.
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

derspiess

#87
March 26, 2013, 01:15:54 PM
So if we agree that buttsecs is a health risk, do those of you who agree with Bloomberg on trans fats, sugary sodas, cigarettes, etc. also think we should either tax or outlaw gayness?
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

garbon

#88
March 26, 2013, 01:41:31 PM
No because the incidence of the problem is so small that it probably has a negligible effect on overall public health.  The same can't be said for things like trans fats, sugary sodas and cigarettes. (As well as the fact that the health risks cited for homosexuality can be mitigated.)

Also, why are you conflating anal sex with homosexuality? :huh:
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

derspiess

#89
March 26, 2013, 01:53:44 PM
Quote from: garbon on March 26, 2013, 01:41:31 PM
Also, why are you conflating anal sex with homosexuality? :huh:

Wow, good question. 

I'm told that homosexual men tend to be quite fond of it.  Isn't that what contributes to their high risk factor for contracting HIV?
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall
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