British Esquire editor stands by comments: Women are ‘ornamental’—just like cars

[merithyn]

Skinny Fat  Anyone not my ideal type of people should not be in the media as they provide wrong role models for easily impressionable people. Having too thin people fatsos anyone I don't particular find pleasing to me is like having alcoholics and drug addicts as role models.

[merithyn]

Maybe if women stopped acting like ornaments and putting their ankles over their ears for stupid shit like money, status or security, maybe they wouldn't be looked at as ornaments.

This is true, though I doubt it.

[Legbiter]

Hey Marty do some bears complain about twink objectification in the gay community?

[garbon]

Hey Marty do some bears complain about twink objectification in the gay community?

Yes because Marti is in touch with the wider gay community.

Anyway, yes, of course.

[Legbiter]

Hey Marty do some bears complain about twink objectification in the gay community?

Yes because Marti is in touch with the wider gay community.

Anyway, yes, of course.

They into fat acceptance as well?

[Admiral Yi]

Equire has an affect on women to the extent that the women want to be hott and turn to Esquire for tips on how to hotten up.  They have no more responsibility to provide positive, supportive role models for women than a random person walking down the street does.  Esquire doesn't value you for your brains and personality?  So fucking what.  Find your own validation.

[garbon]

They into fat acceptance as well?

I've never heard anyone use the term fat acceptance. I would think generally recognized as unhealthy but they don't feel like changing...it's just a look.

[merithyn]

Equire has an affect on women to the extent that the women want to be hott and turn to Esquire for tips on how to hotten up.  They have no more responsibility to provide positive, supportive role models for women than a random person walking down the street does.  Esquire doesn't value you for your brains and personality?  So fucking what.  Find your own validation.

Actually, I feel the same way. My concern isn't for women, in this case. It's more that men see the women portrayed in Esquire, and then expect something similar in real life. Case in point, the sharp elbows meme. In addition, because there is no real humanity in the pics of the women, for those men inclined to already treat women as objects rather than people, it supports that conviction and does nothing to say, "Hey, asshole, women are actually human."

[Richard Hakluyt]

Who reads Esquire anyway? I had assumed that it was for aspirational wankers who hadn't succeeded yet and probably wouldn't............is that fair?

[Valmy]

Who reads Esquire anyway? I had assumed that it was for aspirational wankers who hadn't succeeded yet and probably wouldn't............is that fair?

I have no idea.  Even the target audience, aspiring wankers, would be online these days I would think.

[Malthus]

Who reads Esquire anyway? I had assumed that it was for aspirational wankers who hadn't succeeded yet and probably wouldn't............is that fair?

They can look at the fancy cars and watches they will never buy, alongside pics of the hot women they will never date. 

[CountDeMoney]

Who reads Esquire anyway? I had assumed that it was for aspirational wankers who hadn't succeeded yet and probably wouldn't............is that fair?

I think it's targeted at the post-collegiate entry level type that's graduated beyond whacking off to Maxim in the dorm, but can't afford the shit in GQ yet.

[garbon]

Who reads Esquire anyway? I had assumed that it was for aspirational wankers who hadn't succeeded yet and probably wouldn't............is that fair?

Apparently British Esquire only has 56,000 as of Feb last year.

[Ed Anger]

I'm staying out of this thread.

[Jacob]

But it isn't just entertainment, of course. Media portrayals do have an affect on people.

For example, how dating is portrayed in popular media...