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Started by mongers, February 12, 2013, 06:04:51 PM

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CountDeMoney

Quote from: Sheilbh on February 12, 2013, 10:44:57 PM
Why didn't Rubio have a glass of water in front of him? If it's good enough for any corporate speaker :blink:

That was a bit off-kilter.

derspiess

Why should he applaud a policy he disagrees with and an Obama voter?
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mongers

Quote from: Sheilbh on February 12, 2013, 10:44:57 PM
Why didn't Rubio have a glass of water in front of him? If it's good enough for any corporate speaker :blink:

The cameraman here is dreadful as well. Also the Republicans need to look up their tapes of Reagan again. Optimism wins, this downcast tone (and they had it at the convention too) doesn't. But still better than many responses, horrifically cheesy grin though.

Also purely on images I was very struck at Boehner not applauding the line about extending benefits to gay military families and not ovating the 102 African-American woman who waited 6 hours to vote. That stuff just looks bad.

Yeah, I was especifically watching him and him not applauding the fair voting notion seemed telling, maybe he really doesn't want too many 'ethnic' to vote ? 
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Quote from: Sheilbh on February 12, 2013, 10:44:57 PM
Optimism wins, this downcast tone (and they had it at the convention too) doesn't.
It's important to position yourself for the long term.  Because things are going to get substantially worse in the years ahead, the optiists will end up looking stupid, whereas those grim prophets will looks wise and forward-thinking.
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Quote from: derspiess on February 12, 2013, 10:49:15 PM
Why should he applaud a policy he disagrees with and an Obama voter?

Hey!  She could have been amongst the erm....5%?....of African-American women who voted for Romney.  Also generally allying yourself with the KKK policywise is a loser.
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Sheilbh

Quote from: derspiess on February 12, 2013, 10:49:15 PM
Why should he applaud a policy he disagrees with
Fair point. But I'd argue that gay rights are an area the GOP should probably just go neutral on nationally, because their view losing and it will lose. Also it didn't explicitly mention the gays and sitting out the applause on benefits for military families probably never looks good.

Quoteand an Obama voter?
Because she's a 102 year old woman who stood for six hours to fulfil her civic duty. Who cares how she voted? :blink:
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CountDeMoney

Quote from: Sheilbh on February 12, 2013, 11:01:13 PM
Because she's a 102 year old woman who stood for six hours to fulfil her civic duty. Who cares how she voted? :blink:

Pfft, somebody who's seen the worst of Jim Crow, witnessed the entirety of the civil rights movement, and the election of the first black US President in her lifetime?  If she wants to vote, waiting six hours is so not worth the applause.  :rolleyes:

mongers

Quote from: CountDeMoney on February 12, 2013, 11:06:45 PM
Quote from: Sheilbh on February 12, 2013, 11:01:13 PM
Because she's a 102 year old woman who stood for six hours to fulfil her civic duty. Who cares how she voted? :blink:

Pfft, somebody who's seen the worst of Jim Crow, witnessed the entirety of the civil rights movement, and the election of the first black US President in her lifetime?  If she wants to vote, waiting six hours is so not worth the applause.  :rolleyes:

Well the fight will always continue, perhaps that's what Boehner  was signalling, they're never going to give up on the bias that the elections process should be politicised and not impartial.
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didn't watch it. played world of tanks, instead. but i didn't need to see it. obama has been a fantastic president thus far, and so i don't need to hear his pandering

garbon

Quote from: LaCroix on February 13, 2013, 03:25:51 AM
didn't watch it. played world of tanks, instead. but i didn't need to see it. obama has been a fantastic president thus far, and so i don't need to hear his pandering

:lol:
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Quote from: derspiess on February 12, 2013, 09:44:08 PM
Oh FFS does he want to *expand* Head Start??  Wow.
You're becoming a caricature of yourself.

Head Start made up 00.0022% of the Federal Budget in 2011. It's a miniscule drop in the bucket and it has obvious benefits to society. There are literally a hundred other programs to get upset about and slash their spending, before Head Start even comes on the radar. 

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CountDeMoney

Quote from: jimmy olsen on February 13, 2013, 09:04:46 AM
Quote from: derspiess on February 12, 2013, 09:44:08 PM
Oh FFS does he want to *expand* Head Start??  Wow.
You're becoming a caricature of yourself.

Head Start made up 00.0022% of the Federal Budget in 2011. It's a miniscule drop in the bucket and it has obvious benefits to society. There are literally a hundred other programs to get upset about and slash their spending, before Head Start even comes on the radar.

Derspeiss is a firm supporter of Forehead Start.

garbon

Quote from: jimmy olsen on February 13, 2013, 09:04:46 AM
Quote from: derspiess on February 12, 2013, 09:44:08 PM
Oh FFS does he want to *expand* Head Start??  Wow.
You're becoming a caricature of yourself.

You've always been a caricature. ;)
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
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derspiess

Quote from: jimmy olsen on February 13, 2013, 09:04:46 AM
You're becoming a caricature of yourself.

Do you even know what that means?

QuoteHead Start made up 00.0022% of the Federal Budget in 2011. It's a miniscule drop in the bucket and it has obvious benefits to society. There are literally a hundred other programs to get upset about and slash their spending, before Head Start even comes on the radar. 

It's a wasteful program that needs to be cut.  It has been shown to have zero long-term benefits to kids' educational development.

I do enjoy the screeching from you types whenever someone suggests it be cut or eliminated.
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Valmy

Quote from: derspiess on February 13, 2013, 10:14:55 AM
It's a wasteful program that needs to be cut.  It has been shown to have zero long-term benefits to kids' educational development.

Really?  Please show me these stats that show it is better to have had no education at all than Head Start.  That would be hilarious if true.
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