It's Rove and Co. vs. Tea Party: Let the GOP civil war begin

[Razgovory]

What about the racists?

[Admiral Yi]

What about the racists?

Can be a part of either party's base.  Bigoted union members and bigoted blacks for example are likely to be part of the Democratic base.  Or they could very well be swing voters or apoltical.

[DGuller]

What about the racists?

Can be a part of either party's base.  Bigoted union members and bigoted blacks for example are likely to be part of the Democratic base.  Or they could very well be swing voters or apoltical.

Yeah, sure, keep telling yourself that.  Lots of people are racist, but the ones willing to act politically on their bigotry tend to find one party a lot more inviting than the other party.

[Admiral Yi]

Yeah, sure, keep telling yourself that.  Lots of people are racist, but the ones willing to act politically on their bigotry tend to find one party a lot more inviting than the other party.

Please elaborate.  For example, what do you have in mind when you say some people are willing to act politically on their bigotry?

[Grey Fox]

Yeah, sure, keep telling yourself that.  Lots of people are racist, but the ones willing to act politically on their bigotry tend to find one party a lot more inviting than the other party.

Please elaborate.  For example, what do you have in mind when you say some people are willing to act politically on their bigotry?

Not what, whom.

[CountDeMoney]

For example, what do you have in mind when you say some people are willing to act politically on their bigotry?

That black people will always vote for black people in order to get back at The Man?

[Valmy]

Yeah, sure, keep telling yourself that.  Lots of people are racist, but the ones willing to act politically on their bigotry tend to find one party a lot more inviting than the other party.

I don't know.  If you are bigoted against WASPs you probably are not going to be a Republican.

[derspiess]

For example, what do you have in mind when you say some people are willing to act politically on their bigotry?

That black people will always vote for black people in order to get back at The Man?

No, they do that because of identity politics, which is much worse.

[Neil]

Gays, like professional women, or any particular demographic, even blacks, are not part of the Democratic base--poor people and people who understand that stability requires intense government intervention in the economy are.  Everyone else can be turned.  That was my point made before: I hope the GOP doesn't realize this and continues to rely on their base instead of rejecting it and reinventing themselves ideologically as what they've practically come to be, the party of the rich and the special snowflakes who think they can be.

See, but if you think of it like that, then there's no such thing as a base, because anybody can be turned by slight adjustments in policy.  Remember back when the Democratic base was the Klan?

[CountDeMoney]

For example, what do you have in mind when you say some people are willing to act politically on their bigotry?

That black people will always vote for black people in order to get back at The Man?

No, they do that because of identity politics, which is much worse.

So like white rich people and white people who aren't rich but are conned into believing white rich people like them anyway.

[garbon]

For example, what do you have in mind when you say some people are willing to act politically on their bigotry?

That black people will always vote for black people in order to get back at The Man?

No, they do that because of identity politics, which is much worse.

Well I'm not sure it is unreasonable to think a black president might be more sympathetic to the issues of black voters if only because he(she!) has had experience with being a minority.

[Neil]

So like white rich people and white people who aren't rich but are conned into believing white rich people like them anyway.

But isn't that what politics is all about in this day and age?  Politicians trick people that they hate into voting for them everywhere, in every party in the world. 

[garbon]

For example, what do you have in mind when you say some people are willing to act politically on their bigotry?

That black people will always vote for black people in order to get back at The Man?

No, they do that because of identity politics, which is much worse.

So like white rich people and white people who aren't rich but are conned into believing white rich people like them anyway.

Usually, I'm trying to con rich white people into liking me.

[CountDeMoney]

Usually, I'm trying to con rich white people into liking me.

That's because you're a saucy little sex minx.  Doesn't count.

[dps]

A party based on religious social conservatism with a mistrust of big business(not sure how viable this is in US or other predominately Protestant nations) might even go into coalition with the establishment Democrats from time to time.

Heck, if all Democrats were like Jimmy Carter, that would be a pretty good description of the Democratic party to begin with.