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The war on men

Started by garbon, November 26, 2012, 12:26:44 PM

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merithyn

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Quote from: Legbiter on November 26, 2012, 08:45:34 PM
These are the control variables. Religion (in several hues) is controlled for.

That's actually pretty interesting. I wonder why that is.

EDIT: I don't have access to the article, so I'm afraid that I can't read it. I wonder if it's the same for men, though, or if it's just true of women. Also, does the study mention who leaves who, or just that they end up divorced?
Yesterday, upon the stair,
I met a man who wasn't there
He wasn't there again today
I wish, I wish he'd go away...

CountDeMoney

Quote from: The Minsky Moment on November 26, 2012, 06:57:46 PM
These threads always go the same way.

Each poster generalizes from their own personal experiences and handpicked anecdotes, with occasional nods to pop-psych constructs along the way to justify their particular generalization.  They then accuse their opponent of doing exactly what I just described, apparently unaware that they are doing the exact same thing themselves but from the opposite POV.  What is completely missing from all sides is any set of aggregate facts or data.  Not surprisingly, the process reveals some things about the life experiences, mental processes and personal concerns of the poster, but little else of value.

Now with extra rape!

Legbiter

Quote from: merithyn on November 26, 2012, 08:54:19 PM

That's actually pretty interesting. I wonder why that is.

Houellebecq is a good start I'd suppose.
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Ed Anger


QuoteHouellebecq


Gehnsundeit.

Stay Alive...Let the Man Drive

sbr

Quote from: Ed Anger on November 26, 2012, 08:35:59 PM
Quote from: DGuller on November 26, 2012, 08:35:02 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on November 26, 2012, 08:32:30 PM
Quote from: garbon on November 26, 2012, 08:30:41 PM
I hope DGul will appear at some point.

He won't get any with all that statistic blabber.
For you information, 85% of women find statistics talk on first date very charming.  I don't have any data for second dates, but I'm sure the pattern still holds.

My vagina just dried up. Try again.

:D

Ed Anger

Stay Alive...Let the Man Drive

derspiess

Quote from: merithyn on November 26, 2012, 08:34:44 PM
As I just explained to Max, it's always been my assumption that the reason men dislike the idea of their girl being ridden hard is because they didn't want to have to compete with ghost relationships in the bedroom. Some guys on Languish have pretty much said as much, and it at least makes sense, however silly I find the reasoning. It has been the only explanation that made sense to me on why there is still this double standard in this day and age.

I can honestly say this is the first I've ever heard of this theory.  Not even 100% sure I understand.  Is this one of those "guys like/don't like X because they feel inadequate" theories women like so much?

Want some other reasons?  Embarrassment (assuming other people know her past, but err on the side of caution), greater likelihood of her having an STD, and a general 'ick' factor.  Bear in mind that's criteria I'd use to evaluate women for a relationship, and it doesn't all apply to how I'd view them platonically.
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

Legbiter

Quote from: Ed Anger on November 26, 2012, 09:11:49 PM

QuoteHouellebecq


Gehnsundeit.

Michel Houellebecq. French writer who trolled the hell out of the 68' Boomers with his goring of that generartion's sacred cows. He's been accused of obscenity, racism, misogyny and Islamophobia. Plus he's good in parts.
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garbon

Quote from: derspiess on November 26, 2012, 09:19:38 PM
Embarrassment (assuming other people know her past, but err on the side of caution)

Do you live in a village?
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

derspiess

Quote from: garbon on November 26, 2012, 10:01:48 PM
Quote from: derspiess on November 26, 2012, 09:19:38 PM
Embarrassment (assuming other people know her past, but err on the side of caution)

Do you live in a village?

I've always lived in small to medium-sized towns, so yeah sorta.
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

FunkMonk

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merithyn

Quote from: derspiess on November 26, 2012, 09:19:38 PM
I can honestly say this is the first I've ever heard of this theory.  Not even 100% sure I understand.  Is this one of those "guys like/don't like X because they feel inadequate" theories women like so much?

Want some other reasons?  Embarrassment (assuming other people know her past, but err on the side of caution), greater likelihood of her having an STD, and a general 'ick' factor.  Bear in mind that's criteria I'd use to evaluate women for a relationship, and it doesn't all apply to how I'd view them platonically.

:huh:

Several men have told me point blank that they don't want their women comparing them in the bedroom with past lovers, which is why they prefer women who have had fewer lovers. Granted, the men who have told me this were mostly all geeks, so chances are it's in the demographic, but it at least made more sense then this whole idea that she's had sex so she's going to cheat thing.

The reasons you're giving are... well, silly to me, other than the STD thing. "Ick factor"? Really? What, you think some guy's semen from two years ago is still clinging inside her? Embarrassment? Embarrassed of what? That she dated before she met you?

Now, the STD thing makes perfect sense, especially when you consider that something like half the population in the US supposedly has genital warts/herpes. But that doesn't explain the double standard, unless women are really just that stupid compared to men when it comes to this kind of thing.
Yesterday, upon the stair,
I met a man who wasn't there
He wasn't there again today
I wish, I wish he'd go away...

garbon

The embarrassment would be that rumor around the village that she's easy and fast.
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

merithyn

Quote from: garbon on November 26, 2012, 10:23:34 PM
The embarrassment would be that rumor around the village is that she's easy and fast.

Operative words from before were "in this day and age."
Yesterday, upon the stair,
I met a man who wasn't there
He wasn't there again today
I wish, I wish he'd go away...

garbon

D agreed that he lives in a village.
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.