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The Rumble in Columbus: Veeps Attack!

Started by merithyn, October 10, 2012, 01:11:40 PM

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crazy canuck

Quote from: frunk on October 10, 2012, 03:45:16 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on October 10, 2012, 03:43:43 PM
I am fascinated by how much play such a minor role in your government gets.  I understand the one heartbeat away thing but I think you guys take it a bit far.  Does anyone actually vote based on the fact that the VP might one day be president if the current president comes to some tragic end?

McCain/Palin

Granted that was a reflection on McCain's lack of judgment.  But did anyone actually have to see a VP debate to understand that?

crazy canuck

Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 10, 2012, 03:50:37 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on October 10, 2012, 03:43:43 PM
Does anyone actually vote based on the fact that the VP might one day be president if the current president comes to some tragic end?

I dunno...people like my Dad, whose vote McCain had locked up until he picked you-know-who, seemed to take the veep candidate pretty seriously.  No way in holy hell did he want that fruit cake anywhere near the Oval Office.

And I specifically recall a couple acquaintances whose vote for Dukakis was cemented with the hope that he'd die in the middle of the inauguration so Lloyd Bentsen could take his rightful place upon the throne.

I guess I cant relate.  Nobody cares who the might take over as PM if the current PM dies.  We vote assuming the PM isnt going to die - and in Jack Layton's case even knowing he is ill.

CountDeMoney

Quote from: crazy canuck on October 10, 2012, 04:01:58 PM
Granted that was a reflection on McCain's lack of judgment. 

Also a reflection of his possible health.  I mean, the man's a fucking American hero, but he's not put together as well anymore after he ejected in Truc Bac Lake.  And I mean his physical health;  I didn't buy that bullshit Bush whisper campaign about his mind before the South Carolina primaries in 2000.   Fucker's still sharp as a tack.

crazy canuck

Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 10, 2012, 04:07:04 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on October 10, 2012, 04:01:58 PM
Granted that was a reflection on McCain's lack of judgment. 

Also a reflection of his possible health.  I mean, the man's a fucking American hero, but he's not put together as well anymore after he ejected in Truc Bac Lake.  And I mean his physical health;  I didn't buy that bullshit Bush whisper campaign about his mind before the South Carolina primaries in 2000.   Fucker's still sharp as a tack.

What I am getting at is it seems a peculiar American obsession.  In our last election a leader who was open about his health troubles also won a historic vote for his party and became leader of the opposition. 

CountDeMoney

Quote from: crazy canuck on October 10, 2012, 04:09:43 PM
What I am getting at is it seems a peculiar American obsession.  In our last election a leader who was open about his health troubles also won a historic vote for his party and became leader of the opposition.

There are a substantial number of Americans who were very much alive the last time a US President was assassinated, and witnessed how the trajectory of the nation was substantially altered, thank you very much.

There's nothing peculiar or obsessive about it.  It's a bona fide concern, and it should be for most of the world.  JFK > Thomas D'Arcy McGee

merithyn

I'd also like to point out that given a tie in the Senate, the VP decides. With things being as contentious as they are, that could be a major factor. Sure, he/she is likely to vote along the party lines regardless of who he/she is, but it could still be a dicey situation.
Yesterday, upon the stair,
I met a man who wasn't there
He wasn't there again today
I wish, I wish he'd go away...

crazy canuck

Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 10, 2012, 04:18:15 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on October 10, 2012, 04:09:43 PM
What I am getting at is it seems a peculiar American obsession.  In our last election a leader who was open about his health troubles also won a historic vote for his party and became leader of the opposition.

There are a substantial number of Americans who were very much alive the last time a US President was assassinated, and witnessed how the trajectory of the nation was substantially altered, thank you very much.

There's nothing peculiar or obsessive about it.  It's a bona fide concern, and it should be for most of the world.  JFK > Thomas D'Arcy McGee

Yeah, you have probably identified why it is a peculiarly American obsession.  You guys shoot way too may of your politicians.

crazy canuck

Quote from: merithyn on October 10, 2012, 04:20:08 PM
I'd also like to point out that given a tie in the Senate, the VP decides. With things being as contentious as they are, that could be a major factor. Sure, he/she is likely to vote along the party lines regardless of who he/she is, but it could still be a dicey situation.

But it doesnt matter who the VP is - he or she will always vote with the party.  Its just a process thing - even Palin could have done that.

lustindarkness

I am hoping for an entertaining cripple fight.

Who will be Jimmy and who will be Timmy? :unsure:
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Valmy

Quote from: crazy canuck on October 10, 2012, 04:20:41 PM
Yeah, you have probably identified why it is a peculiarly American obsession.  You guys shoot way too may of your politicians.

Maybe but we have only succeeded in actually killing four of them.  And all between 1864 and 1964.
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crazy canuck

Quote from: Valmy on October 10, 2012, 04:53:04 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on October 10, 2012, 04:20:41 PM
Yeah, you have probably identified why it is a peculiarly American obsession.  You guys shoot way too may of your politicians.

Maybe but we have only succeeded in actually killing four of them.  And all between 1864 and 1964.

How many of your politicians have been shot or shot at?

Valmy

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Ed Anger

Ugh, another one. I guess I'll end up watching porno on Redtube.
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sbr

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Quote from: mongers on October 10, 2012, 01:49:52 PM
I'll make an effort to see this, should be entertaining.

What time is it one ?   (EST is what +5GMT ?)

Looks like it starts in 6 hours.

6+24 hours, anyway ;)

:D  Meh, whatever I was right about the time, just not the day.

Sheilbh

Let's bomb Russia!