BBC: Second Spanish Civil War Is Possible

[derspiess]

I'd marry a dago or wop before I'd pollute myself with a Geordie.

That's what I did.  A DagoWopMick in fact

[Valmy]

Spaniards, Italians and Greeks are very clearly not white, and "latin" is as good a term as any.

No it is an idiotic term.  Among many others we already use that term to describe people in Latin America regardless of their race.

[DGuller]

This needs a poll.  But I'd say Spaniards, Italians, and maybe even Greeks would qualify as white, for whatever that's worth.

Have any scientific measurements been performed to answer this question definitively?

There you go with the stalking & whatnot.

Get a life.

[Grallon]

Unity through disunity.
The more the old nations are split the more federalised the small new nations can become.

My thought exactly.  A real federation can't emerge until the old states have been sufficiently weakened.  When that happens, either through financial bankrupcy or social dislocation - or both, you'll see more regions breaking apart and it will be far easier to create a super state.  Could it be the plan of the 'powers that be'?




G.

[garbon]

Unity through disunity.
The more the old nations are split the more federalised the small new nations can become.

My thought exactly.  A real federation can't emerge until the old states have been sufficiently weakened.  When that happens, either through financial bankrupcy or social dislocation - or both, you'll see more regions breaking apart and it will be far easier to create a super state.  Could it be the plan of the 'powers that be'?




G.

Perhaps but again what's to prevent the federation from getting weekend as now there would be scores and scores of voices clamoring to be heard.

[Barrister]

This needs a poll.  But I'd say Spaniards, Italians, and maybe even Greeks would qualify as white, for whatever that's worth.

Perhaps "mediterannean" would be a better term, since your typical Spaniard or Greek looks very much the same as your typical resident on the other side of the Med.

[viper37]

I support Basque independence.

Yeah, I went there.

Why?  What good would it do?  Splitting Europe into Micro-States for no reason only serves to make the continents problems worse not better.  The regions of Europe need to be coordinating more in order to meet the challenges they are facing not splitting into pieces to satisfy nationalist douchebaggery.

small is beautiful.

[Valmy]

Perhaps "mediterannean" would be a better term, since your typical Spaniard or Greek looks very much the same as your typical resident on the other side of the Med.

I claim them all in the name of Honky-Crackerness!

[Valmy]

small is beautiful.

Caliga and I disagree.

[Barrister]

small is beautiful.

Caliga and I disagree.

*ahem*

[derspiess]

This needs a poll.  But I'd say Spaniards, Italians, and maybe even Greeks would qualify as white, for whatever that's worth.

Perhaps "mediterannean" would be a better term, since your typical Spaniard or Greek looks very much the same as your typical resident on the other side of the Med.

For Greeks I'd agree but Spaniards seem a bit whiter to me.  As do northern Italians.

[Admiral Yi]

I can't believe you guys are having a serious discussion about the whiteness of Spaniards. 

[MadImmortalMan]

No but the international system is maintained by large countries.  The smaller ones just ride the coattails of the system (or be taken down by the system).  The European countries breaking apart is going to make the Euro-zone, and the world economy, more unstable.

A system comprised of small countries is bound to fail.  But a small country can do great so long as there are other countries around to do the heavy lifting.

On the other hand, one of the greatest strengths that Europe as a whole has had historically was its diversity and the "smallness" of its states. With power decentralized, it allowed them to conduct hundreds of social experiments simultaneously and find the best solutions to public problems. You put them all into one big bucket and that advantage is wiped out.

[Barrister]

I can't believe you guys are having a serious discussion about the whiteness of Spaniards. 

It's not as if being "not white" is a bad thing.  I don't mean to denegrate our spanish posters.  But their skin tone just isn't "white".

[mongers]

I can't believe you guys are having a serious discussion about the whiteness of Spaniards. 

It's not as if being "not white" is a bad thing.  I don't mean to denegrate our spanish posters.  But their skin tone just isn't "white".

No skin is actually white, saving perhaps those without pigment.

And besides I'd wager there's nearly as great a range of skin tones amongst a 'race' as there are between these 'races'.