25 years old and deep in debt

[Jacob]

So why are these people doing this?

Because they can't get full time work as professors?

[garbon]

So why are these people doing this?

Because they can't get full time work as professors?

It seems like they would be better off trying something else then.

[Jacob]

It seems like they would be better off trying something else then.

Yeah for sure. Though no harm in drawing attention to the issues surrounding your chosen profession.

[garbon]

It seems like they would be better off trying something else then.

Yeah for sure. Though no harm in drawing attention to the issues surrounding your chosen profession.

Sure enough. At the same time though, it does come off somewhat as a whine about how they aren't able to earn a living by doing what they want to do.

[Jacob]

Sure enough. At the same time though, it does come off somewhat as a whine about how they aren't able to earn a living by doing what they want to do.

For sure.

It used to be that academia was a way to respect and a comfortable living. I think that dream is still being sold to people, so it's worth pointing out that it's not reality so fewer people are suckered into it.

I think it's also legitimate to point out how underpaid they are and how the education business is set up; it might influence how things go. It may be that "underpaid, near starving adjuncts teach all your courses" becomes less of a marketable proposition for the universities if it becomes widely known.

[alfred russel]

One of my cousins got a PhD in Anthropology. One could argue that was a stupid move. She heard that many times when getting the PhD.

But once she got it, what is she to do? Pushing 30 having only gone to school (aside from working on random projects no one besides academics would really care about), but highly skilled in anthropology....It is exceedingly difficult to get tenure track positions.

It turns out she was extremely fortunate to get money to get a post doc research position. But otherwise, being an adjunct professor at least brings in some money.

[Ideologue]

So why are these people doing this?

Because they can't get full time work as professors?

It seems like they would be better off trying something else then.

Maybe they could become robots and build cars!

Anyway, no time to read long article, but I'm aware the adjunct apocalypse.  Just like I deserve doc review, that's what would-be parasites who couldn't hack the scam get--the nourishment of the droplets that drip down, while the big leeches feed on the main vein.

[garbon]

So why are these people doing this?

Because they can't get full time work as professors?

It seems like they would be better off trying something else then.

Maybe they could become robots and build cars!

I forgot to add to my post, as I knew you'd be silly, that I find it rather hard to believe that these smart individuals have absolutely nothing else that they can find to do as a better paid job.

[Ideologue]

Maybe they could turn their Lander University degrees into Stanford ones.

[Ideologue]

(Made under the assumption that garbon knows I'm mainly teasing him, for though he is a class enemy, he is also... my friend. )

[garbon]

Maybe they could turn their Lander University degrees into Stanford ones.

Btw, did you know that most people that have my job did not go to Stanford?

[garbon]

he is also... my friend. )

Remind me, when did I sign up for that? Was I drunk?

[Ideologue]

You're like an adorable porcupine.

[Ideologue]

Maybe they could turn their Lander University degrees into Stanford ones.

Btw, did you know that most people that have my job did not go to Stanford?

No, many are not continent-spanning travelers.  They went to schools for local yokels like Harvard, Yale, and NYU.

[garbon]

You're like an adorable porcupine.

I suppose I can live with that.