25 years old and deep in debt

[Ideologue]

I've realized that I immediate judge people when they use "trigger" in this sort of way or if they say "cisgender".

Garbon: fighting the stereotype that gay men give a shit about anybody but other gay men.

Since Jacob did the good cop already.

[Ideologue]

Anyway, I'm a little more sensitive to that "trigger" stuff when it's actual depiction of rape or overly aggressive sexual overtures.  Thus I largely agree with the one person interviewed, although I want to punch her in her snide face:

"I find it disturbing, but in a good way," said Sarah Wall-Randell, an English professor at Wellesley. "I think it's meant to be off-putting – it's a schlumpy guy in underpants in an all-women environment."

OK, the statue's not Michelangelo's David (for one thing, he isn't afflicted with micropenis), but fuck's sake, he's not fat and isn't deformed.  I think when men do this it's called body fascism.  The Bible discusses this: "bitches who sew the wind, will reap the whirlwind."

[garbon]

I've realized that I immediate judge people when they use "trigger" in this sort of way or if they say "cisgender".

Garbon: fighting the stereotype that gay men give a shit about anybody but other gay men.

Since Jacob did the good cop already.

Yep because if you are judgmental when people talk about being triggered by such a statue or use terms like cisgender, must be because you only care about yourself.

[Ideologue]

I think it depends on context.  "Cisgender" can be pretty useful.  I generally consider that trigger warning thing overdone, but it's not illegitimate.  A ton of women have been traumatized by rape, and it's at least courteous to consider their feelings.

Consider your privilege.

[garbon]

I consider that someone, somewhere will take offense at any reaction. I certainly think it is right to take some consideration into the feelings of others but I'm not sure that should be the end all. 

As an aside, I have to say that 9/10, I encounter the word "cisgender" when complaining about said group.

[garbon]

Also, I find that statue hideous and would want it removed as well. I'm not sure though I would find it appropriate to ask for its removal on the grounds that hypothetically it is causing people to recall sexual assaults.

[Ideologue]

I agree with you on that.  Fun enough as a pseudo-artistic prank to be laughed at for a few weeks, but as a permanent installation it sucks.

Can you hit me with an example of how "cisgender" would be used annoyingly?

[garbon]

http://www.buzzfeed.com/skarlan/ingrid-michaelsons-new-music-video-gender-swaps-an-80s-class

I'm liking this on a LOT of levels (holy tuxedo vest, Ingrid), but I can't help feeling peeved by the use of gay/trans themes as metaphors to describe straight cisgender experience.

Yeah, I did, I just wasn't convinced - for example, the makeup on the male dancers is deliberately mismatched to their skin tones for a "drag" effect, and their clothing is stripped off very quickly to make them appear more masculine, with bare chests (ie it's about the performance of *not* fitting into the target gender, rather than any sincere acceptance).

[Ideologue]

I don't see the issue.  The term's used correctly; although the person is clearly annoying, it's not the "cisgender" that does it.

[garbon]

This started with me saying that I feel judgmental of people using the term cisgendered. I then pointed out that 9 times out of 10, when the word is used it is to complain about people of said group. And that's what my example is about.

[Ideologue]

Well, you're right on that count (and the complaint is bullshit).

[LaCroix]

People are "offended" over stupid stuff, film at 11.

I'm going to go with Stephen Fry here:

"It's now very common to hear people say, 'I'm rather offended by that.' As if that gives them certain rights. It's actually nothing more... than a whine. 'I find that offensive.' It has no meaning; it has no purpose; it has no reason to be respected as a phrase. 'I am offended by that.' Well, so fucking what."

that doesn't sound like what's happening in the story. it's a creepy male statue placed on an all female campus. his arms are outstretched, and from afar/at night it could reasonably unsettle a girl (especially a victim of molestation/rape)

[alfred russel]

it's a creepy male statue placed on an all female campus. his arms are outstretched, and from afar/at night it could reasonably unsettle a girl (especially a victim of molestation/rape)

And if you put David on the campus, you would have an actual nude male statue with a weapon and an aggressive gaze. Imagine how unsettling that could be.

[LaCroix]

And if you put David on the campus, you would have an actual nude male statue with a weapon and an aggressive gaze. Imagine how unsettling that could be.

no

[Legbiter]

Consider your privilege.

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