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Started by CountDeMoney, September 10, 2012, 10:43:12 PM

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LaCroix

Quote from: MadImmortalMan on January 28, 2014, 11:58:46 AMI'm sure that's a big factor too.

is this a suspicion or is there evidence backed behind it? because i haven't found anything that suggests that's the case

Fate

Quote from: LaCroix on January 26, 2014, 04:55:44 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on January 26, 2014, 04:50:57 PM
How in the world would you go about calculating how much a surgeon got paid for a certain operation?

went down the rabbit hole until i found this:
http://www.ethicon.com/sites/default/files/EES_Reimb_2012_Hip.pdf
that's not what the surgeon is getting paid

crazy canuck

Quote from: Admiral Yi on January 26, 2014, 04:50:57 PM
How in the world would you go about calculating how much a surgeon got paid for a certain operation?  Don't doctors generally get paid annual salary rather than piece rate?

That might be the case where you are.  But here doctors/surgeons are paid based on a fee for service structure.

http://www.health.gov.bc.ca/msp/infoprac/physbilling/payschedule/

Jacob

#3108
My understanding is that most American doctors are paid piece rate, but it's an inference from hearing someone talk about this one hospital in Seattle that's unique and great, and part of its uniqueness is that the doctors are all salaried.

Fate

the bulk of the US health system is fee for service

Savonarola

Meanwhile at the seven sisters:

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Realistic statue of man in his underwear at Wellesley College sparks controversy


Tony Matelli's Sleepwalker, is part of an art exhibit at Wellesley College's Davis Museum.
By Jaclyn Reiss, Boston.com Staff

A realistic-looking statue of a man sleepwalking in his underwear near the center of Wellesley College has created a stir among the women on campus, especially as more than 100 students at the all-women's college signed a petition asking administrators to remove it.

The statue, called Sleepwalker, is part of an art exhibit featuring sculptor Tony Matelli at the college's Davis Museum. The exhibit, New Gravity, features sculptures that are often reversed, upended or atomized.

However, the statue of the sleepwalker -- which is hard to miss in a high-traffic area by both pedestrians and drivers near the campus center -- has caused outrage among some students in just one day after its Feb. 3 installation. Zoe Magid, a Wellesley College junior majoring in political science, started a petition on Change.org with other students asking college president H. Kim Bottomly to have the statue removed.

"[T]his highly lifelike sculpture has, within just a few hours of its outdoor installation, become a source of apprehension, fear, and triggering thoughts regarding sexual assault for many members of our campus community," says the petition. "While it may appear humorous, or thought-provoking to some, it has already become a source of undue stress for many Wellesley College students, the majority of whom live, study, and work in this space."

Davis Museum director Lisa Fischman wrote on Wellesley College's official website that the sculpture was meant to evoke response.

"We placed the Sleepwalker on the roadside just beyond the Davis to connect the exhibition -- within the museum -- to the campus world beyond," Fischman wrote, also posting it on Change.org as her response to the petition. "I love the idea of art escaping the museum and muddling the line between what we expect to be inside (art) and what we expect to be outside (life)."

Fischman noted that reactions on campus have been "varied," and even wrote that she has heard that some find the statue "troubling." However, she noted that the sculpture's whole intent was to start discussion.

"As the best art does, Tony Matelli's work provokes dialogue, and discourse is at the core of education," she wrote.

However, Magid said over the phone Tuesday that Fischman's response failed to address students' concerns.

"We were really disappointed that she seemed to articulate that she was glad it was starting discussion, but didn't respond to the fact that it's making students on campus feel unsafe, which is not appropriate," Magid said. "We really feel that if a piece of art makes students feel unsafe, that steps over a line."

At the college on Tuesday, many drivers could be seen slamming on their brakes as they approached or passed the statue, craning their necks for a second look. Many students were seen making a casual beeline for the new addition on campus -- some smiled and laughed as they got closer; others frowned and seemed apprehensive. All reached for their smartphones to take a photo.

"I honestly didn't even want to get too close to him," said Laura Mayron, a Wellesley College sophomore. "It honestly makes me a little uncomfortable with how real he looks. It's odd."

Bridget Schreiner, a Wellesley freshman, said Tuesday afternoon that she had already signed the Change.org petition that was posted late Monday night.

Schreiner said she felt "freaked out" the first time she saw the statue, thinking for a moment that a real, nearly naked person was lingering near the campus center.

"This could be a trigger for students who have experienced sexual assault," she said.

Others said while the statue came as a surprise, they understood the artist's intention.

"I find it disturbing, but in a good way," said Sarah Wall-Randell, an English professor at Wellesley. "I think it's meant to be off-putting – it's a schlumpy guy in underpants in an all-women environment."

Wellesley College senior Annie Wang, an art history major, said she acknowledged that the statue forced passers-by to contemplate the very nature of art.

However, she said she wished to see the statue moved out of such a public space.

"I think art's intention is to confront, but not assault, and people can see this as assaulting," Wang said. "Wellesley is a place where we're supposed to feel safe. I think place and a context matters, and I don't think this is the place to put it."

Matelli is slated to appear on campus next week at a screening of 2001: A Space Odyssey, which is one of four films the college is showing this semester to complement his exhibit. Matelli is expected to speak after the screening on Feb. 12. The event begins at 6 p.m. at the Collins Cinema.

Tony Matelli: New Gravity will be on exhibit from Feb. 5 through May 11 in the Bronfman and Chandler galleries, and Feb. 5 through July 20 in the Jobson and Tanner galleries. The exhibition is free and open to the general public

It's assault, yes, but is it art?
In Italy, for thirty years under the Borgias, they had warfare, terror, murder and bloodshed, but they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci and the Renaissance. In Switzerland, they had brotherly love, they had five hundred years of democracy and peace—and what did that produce? The cuckoo clock

Caliga

Did he take the: Fuck Truck over from MIT!
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LaCroix


garbon

I've realized that I immediate judge people when they use "trigger" in this sort of way or if they say "cisgender". -_-
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

Jacob

Quote from: garbon on February 07, 2014, 02:03:53 PM
I've realized that I immediate judge people when they use "trigger" in this sort of way or if they say "cisgender". -_-

... and is this a realization followed by a commitment to retrench that reaction, or a commitment to change it?

garbon

Quote from: Jacob on February 07, 2014, 02:06:22 PM
Quote from: garbon on February 07, 2014, 02:03:53 PM
I've realized that I immediate judge people when they use "trigger" in this sort of way or if they say "cisgender". -_-

... and is this a realization followed by a commitment to retrench that reaction, or a commitment to change it?

I'm not sure. -_-
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

Syt

People are "offended" over stupid stuff, film at 11.

I'm going to go with Stephen Fry here:

Quote"It's now very common to hear people say, 'I'm rather offended by that.' As if that gives them certain rights. It's actually nothing more... than a whine. 'I find that offensive.' It has no meaning; it has no purpose; it has no reason to be respected as a phrase. 'I am offended by that.' Well, so fucking what."
I am, somehow, less interested in the weight and convolutions of Einstein's brain than in the near certainty that people of equal talent have lived and died in cotton fields and sweatshops.
—Stephen Jay Gould

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Neil

Quote from: garbon on February 07, 2014, 02:03:53 PM
I've realized that I immediate judge people when they use "trigger" in this sort of way or if they say "cisgender". -_-
You know, sometimes you're not so bad.
I do not hate you, nor do I love you, but you are made out of atoms which I can use for something else.

Legbiter

Quote from: garbon on February 07, 2014, 02:03:53 PM
I've realized that I immediate judge people when they use "trigger" in this sort of way or if they say "cisgender". -_-

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Ed Anger

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