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Started by CountDeMoney, September 10, 2012, 10:43:12 PM

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CountDeMoney

Quote from: MadImmortalMan on September 05, 2013, 06:51:38 PM
If it were still possible to get a job in non-humanities fields with a humanities education, it wouldn't be a problem. Instead, we've got public colleges subsidizing our businesses' training costs and calling it education.

Somebody's gotta do it.  Businesses certainly aren't.

alfred russel

Quote from: MadImmortalMan on September 05, 2013, 06:51:38 PM
If it were still possible to get a job in non-humanities fields with a humanities education, it wouldn't be a problem. Instead, we've got public colleges subsidizing our businesses' training costs and calling it education.

I've said this before, but a major problem is that a college degree in the humanities is no guarantee that someone has actually received a humanities education.
They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.

There's a fine line between salvation and drinking poison in the jungle.

I'm embarrassed. I've been making the mistake of associating with you. It won't happen again. :)
-garbon, February 23, 2014

merithyn

Quote from: derspiess on September 05, 2013, 04:14:52 PM
People seem to tend to visit one part of Ohio and conclude the whole state is like the part they visited :rolleyes:

I've spent time in Akron, Columbus, Cincinnati, Dayton, and Youngstown.

I repeat: I have no desire to move to Ohio. Ever.
Yesterday, upon the stair,
I met a man who wasn't there
He wasn't there again today
I wish, I wish he'd go away...

merithyn

Quote from: MadImmortalMan on September 05, 2013, 06:51:38 PM
If it were still possible to get a job in non-humanities fields with a humanities education, it wouldn't be a problem. Instead, we've got public colleges subsidizing our businesses' training costs and calling it education.

That's essentially what I said after the article. Non-humanities degrees are just higher end trade schools.
Yesterday, upon the stair,
I met a man who wasn't there
He wasn't there again today
I wish, I wish he'd go away...

Ed Anger

Quote from: merithyn on September 05, 2013, 07:05:16 PM
Quote from: derspiess on September 05, 2013, 04:14:52 PM
People seem to tend to visit one part of Ohio and conclude the whole state is like the part they visited :rolleyes:

I've spent time in Akron, Columbus, Cincinnati, Dayton, and Youngstown.

I repeat: I have no desire to move to Ohio. Ever.

We don't want you.
Stay Alive...Let the Man Drive

Savonarola

Quote from: merithyn on September 05, 2013, 07:05:16 PM
I've spent time in Akron, Columbus, Cincinnati, Dayton, and Youngstown.

:(



In Italy, for thirty years under the Borgias, they had warfare, terror, murder and bloodshed, but they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci and the Renaissance. In Switzerland, they had brotherly love, they had five hundred years of democracy and peace—and what did that produce? The cuckoo clock

Savonarola

 ;) 

I don't actually hate Ohio, except on 2 or 3 Saturdays in the Fall.
In Italy, for thirty years under the Borgias, they had warfare, terror, murder and bloodshed, but they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci and the Renaissance. In Switzerland, they had brotherly love, they had five hundred years of democracy and peace—and what did that produce? The cuckoo clock

Eddie Teach

Quote from: merithyn on September 05, 2013, 07:05:16 PM
I've spent time in Akron, Columbus, Cincinnati, Dayton, and Youngstown.

I repeat: I have no desire to move to Ohio. Ever.

Too much like Illinois, right.
To sleep, perchance to dream. But in that sleep of death, what dreams may come?

merithyn

Quote from: Peter Wiggin on September 05, 2013, 07:14:57 PM
Quote from: merithyn on September 05, 2013, 07:05:16 PM
I've spent time in Akron, Columbus, Cincinnati, Dayton, and Youngstown.

I repeat: I have no desire to move to Ohio. Ever.

Too much like Illinois, right.

Actually, Ohio is superior to Illinois in most ways. The exception is Chicago, though it wouldn't be too far of a trip from Toledo.

But that's not much of a stretch, is it? I mean, we're talking about Illinois here.
Yesterday, upon the stair,
I met a man who wasn't there
He wasn't there again today
I wish, I wish he'd go away...

garbon

Quote from: merithyn on September 05, 2013, 07:18:37 PM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on September 05, 2013, 07:14:57 PM
Quote from: merithyn on September 05, 2013, 07:05:16 PM
I've spent time in Akron, Columbus, Cincinnati, Dayton, and Youngstown.

I repeat: I have no desire to move to Ohio. Ever.

Too much like Illinois, right.

Actually, Ohio is superior to Illinois in most ways. The exception is Chicago, though it wouldn't be too far of a trip from Toledo.

But that's not much of a stretch, is it? I mean, we're talking about Illinois here.

There are places in Illinois outside of Chicago?
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

merithyn

Yesterday, upon the stair,
I met a man who wasn't there
He wasn't there again today
I wish, I wish he'd go away...

Baron von Schtinkenbutt

Quote from: garbon on September 05, 2013, 07:30:29 PM
There are places in Illinois outside of Chicago?

Indeed.  There are places in New York outside of New York City, too.  Westchester doesn't count. :P

Ideologue

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Quote from: Savonarola on September 05, 2013, 06:41:31 PM
The argument that everything has gone to hell in the modern university and the solution is to refocus on the humanities as they were taught in the recent past is interesting.  It's largely the same argument as Alan Bloom makes in "The Closing of the American Mind" and Robert Hutchins makes in the "The Great Conversation" in 1987 and 1952 respectively.

And I'm sure pecuniary interest and confirmation bias has nothing to do with the recommendations of an elite professor and a mega-elite school administrator, respectively. :)
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garbon

Quote from: Baron von Schtinkenbutt on September 05, 2013, 08:06:52 PM
Quote from: garbon on September 05, 2013, 07:30:29 PM
There are places in Illinois outside of Chicago?

Indeed.  There are places in New York outside of New York City, too.  Westchester doesn't count. :P

I've been to Buffalo. That ain't a place.

I think outside of the Isle of Manhattan, it's all 'here be dragons.'
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

Malthus

Quote from: alfred russel on September 05, 2013, 06:55:15 PM
Quote from: Malthus on September 05, 2013, 12:40:17 PM

It is never wrong to know all there is to know about the Bar Kokhba revolt.  ;)

It would be interesting to work with a couple of Languishites such as yourself. Having discussions shift toward topics like the Bar Kokhba revolt every once in a while would blow people's minds.

"This litigation strategy you have proposed is clever and audatious, but doomed to eventual defeat. It will give the client hope, and when your unexpected preliminary motions hit you will be seen as a saviour; your request for interlocutory injunctions may well succeed; but in the end the other side will win and get their costs on an indemnity scale.

It's the Bar Kokhba revolt of litigation".

  ;)
The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane—Marcus Aurelius