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25 years old and deep in debt

Started by CountDeMoney, September 10, 2012, 10:43:12 PM

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merithyn

Quote from: Neil on September 05, 2013, 02:37:50 PM
Which is all well and good.  Project management is very trendy and meaningless, but won't you be pretty old by the time you finish?  Corporations hate old people.  They love young people.

Luckily, I look younger than my years. :)
Yesterday, upon the stair,
I met a man who wasn't there
He wasn't there again today
I wish, I wish he'd go away...

Neil

Quote from: merithyn on September 05, 2013, 02:42:48 PM
Quote from: Neil on September 05, 2013, 02:37:50 PM
Which is all well and good.  Project management is very trendy and meaningless, but won't you be pretty old by the time you finish?  Corporations hate old people.  They love young people.
Luckily, I look younger than my years. :)
That is good.  But age coupled with inexperience is dangerous combination for employers.

But then again, who am I to say?  I decided a long time ago that any career choice I made would be the wrong one, and so I would just do random things until I died.  Maybe your over-optimism is better than my supreme pessimism.
I do not hate you, nor do I love you, but you are made out of atoms which I can use for something else.

alfred russel

Doesn't IT project managment involve being underbudgeted and understaffed and then staying on weekends and past midnight to meet the deadline?

And then everyone being pissed off when the deadline can't be met and needs to be pushed back 3 months.
They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.

There's a fine line between salvation and drinking poison in the jungle.

I'm embarrassed. I've been making the mistake of associating with you. It won't happen again. :)
-garbon, February 23, 2014

The Brain

Quote from: alfred russel on September 05, 2013, 03:37:00 PM
Doesn't IT project managment involve being underbudgeted and understaffed and then staying on weekends and past midnight to meet the deadline?

And then everyone being pissed off when the deadline can't be met and needs to be pushed back 3 months.

Not anymore. "Early access", baby. Deadline schmeadline.
Women want me. Men want to be with me.

Caliga

Quote from: alfred russel on September 05, 2013, 03:37:00 PM
Doesn't IT project managment involve being underbudgeted and understaffed and then staying on weekends and past midnight to meet the deadline?

And then everyone being pissed off when the deadline can't be met and needs to be pushed back 3 months.
Sounds about right. :)
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Ed Anger

Quote from: merithyn on September 05, 2013, 10:54:20 AM
Quote from: Malthus on September 05, 2013, 10:44:39 AM

You and Meri could end up working together. It would be like the "Odd Couple", only with project managment.  :D

Not likely. I've no desire to move to Ohio. Ever.

Good.
Stay Alive...Let the Man Drive

derspiess

Quote from: Ed Anger on September 05, 2013, 04:09:45 PM
Quote from: merithyn on September 05, 2013, 10:54:20 AM
Quote from: Malthus on September 05, 2013, 10:44:39 AM

You and Meri could end up working together. It would be like the "Odd Couple", only with project managment.  :D

Not likely. I've no desire to move to Ohio. Ever.

Good.

People seem to tend to visit one part of Ohio and conclude the whole state is like the part they visited :rolleyes:

Which I guess is sort of how you are with Cincy :P
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

DGuller

Quote from: derspiess on September 05, 2013, 04:14:52 PM
People seem to tend to visit one part of Ohio and conclude the whole state is like the part they visited :rolleyes:
Can you blame them for not wanting to visit the other parts afterwards?

Ed Anger

Quote from: derspiess on September 05, 2013, 04:14:52 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on September 05, 2013, 04:09:45 PM
Quote from: merithyn on September 05, 2013, 10:54:20 AM
Quote from: Malthus on September 05, 2013, 10:44:39 AM

You and Meri could end up working together. It would be like the "Odd Couple", only with project managment.  :D

Not likely. I've no desire to move to Ohio. Ever.

Good.

People seem to tend to visit one part of Ohio and conclude the whole state is like the part they visited :rolleyes:

Which I guess is sort of how you are with Cincy :P

Cincy is the inflamed boil on Ohio's ass.
Stay Alive...Let the Man Drive

Malthus

Quote from: DGuller on September 05, 2013, 04:16:16 PM
Quote from: derspiess on September 05, 2013, 04:14:52 PM
People seem to tend to visit one part of Ohio and conclude the whole state is like the part they visited :rolleyes:
Can you blame them for not wanting to visit the other parts afterwards?

Sorta like Newark / New Jersey?  :hmm:

:P
The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane—Marcus Aurelius

Darth Wagtaros

Quote from: alfred russel on September 05, 2013, 03:37:00 PM
Doesn't IT project managment involve being underbudgeted and understaffed and then staying on weekends and past midnight to meet the deadline?

And then everyone being pissed off when the deadline can't be met and needs to be pushed back 3 months.
It anyway.
PDH!

derspiess

"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

Savonarola

Quote from: merithyn on September 05, 2013, 11:22:41 AM
Just to make Ide's head explode:

Colleges Focus More on Professional Training Than Transformation

QuoteJEFFREY BROWN: "If you want an education, the odds aren't with you,"

They weren't with Henry Adams either.

It was amusing that the interviewer referenced Keats (who was denied a liberal education because he was apprenticed to an apothecary at age 14 due to his family's poverty) and the author referenced Thoreau who berates colleges for teaching political economics rather than the economy of living.  "The consequence is, that while he is reading Adam Smith, Ricardo, and Say, he runs his father in debt irretrievably."

The argument that everything has gone to hell in the modern university and the solution is to refocus on the humanities as they were taught in the recent past is interesting.  It's largely the same argument as Alan Bloom makes in "The Closing of the American Mind" and Robert Hutchins makes in the "The Great Conversation" in 1987 and 1952 respectively. 
In Italy, for thirty years under the Borgias, they had warfare, terror, murder and bloodshed, but they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci and the Renaissance. In Switzerland, they had brotherly love, they had five hundred years of democracy and peace—and what did that produce? The cuckoo clock

MadImmortalMan

If it were still possible to get a job in non-humanities fields with a humanities education, it wouldn't be a problem. Instead, we've got public colleges subsidizing our businesses' training costs and calling it education.
"Stability is destabilizing." --Hyman Minsky

"Complacency can be a self-denying prophecy."
"We have nothing to fear but lack of fear itself." --Larry Summers

alfred russel

Quote from: Malthus on September 05, 2013, 12:40:17 PM

It is never wrong to know all there is to know about the Bar Kokhba revolt.  ;)

It would be interesting to work with a couple of Languishites such as yourself. Having discussions shift toward topics like the Bar Kokhba revolt every once in a while would blow people's minds.
They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.

There's a fine line between salvation and drinking poison in the jungle.

I'm embarrassed. I've been making the mistake of associating with you. It won't happen again. :)
-garbon, February 23, 2014