25 years old and deep in debt

[Valmy]

Plus lots of people don't plan their life around their career. Lots of people do masters and phds and all that because they love the subject and want to learn more. Or they can't face the real world and want to put it off as long as possible

Those people are suicidally stupid or fantastically wealthy.  If you are dumping 100+ thousand dollars on an education you better be thinking about your career or be heir to a used car lot empire.

[Darth Wagtaros]

Plus lots of people don't plan their life around their career. Lots of people do masters and phds and all that because they love the subject and want to learn more. Or they can't face the real world and want to put it off as long as possible

Which is perfectly fine so long as they have some plan to pay for it.

[CountDeMoney]

Plus lots of people don't plan their life around their career. Lots of people do masters and phds and all that because they love the subject and want to learn more. Or they can't face the real world and want to put it off as long as possible

Those people are suicidally stupid or fantastically wealthy.  If you are dumping 100+ thousand dollars on an education you better be thinking about your career or be heir to a used car lot empire.

Ann Romney convinced me that, no matter how difficult they had it when Mittens went to Harvard for his law degree and his MBA at the same time, they still persevered.  So hard work can create miracles.

[PDH]

Wyoming winters are the best.  The finest 11 months of the year.

Winter in this case being defined as "any day where the temperature drops below 70"

[derspiess]

Stupid girl.  She should have lived in Wyoming then attended the University.  Tuition is only $4300.00 a year for instate, and many students get half of that paid for by an education trust fund.

There were less expensive options that still would have given her a good education.  She went to Xavier, a private school with tuition unsubsidized by the state (runs about $15k per semester), when the University of Cincinnati is right next door for an in-state tuition of about $5k per semester. 

At Miami, tuition is subsidized, but in-state is still more expensive than most (all?) state schools. 

My deal with my kids will be that they can pick whichever state school in Ohio they want to attend, and I'll foot the bill.  If they want to go to an out of state school, they better load up on scholarships and grants.  They will not attend Xavier 

[Josquius]

This really shows the problem with the system in the US.
Worries about whether you're smart enough for a certain program, will be able to get in, etc.... have to take back stage to money.
It just seems thoroughly wrong to me that a very smart guy who could easily get by at one of the best schools in the country might have to go to one of the worst schools just because he can't afford it (yes, I'm aware of scholarships and all that sort of thing, they tend to be limited in number however and with all sorts of strings).
I missed out on going to a certain good uni once upon a time due to money concerns- that was purely living costs however, and it was just for a semester so not that overwhelmingly much lost. For tuition to be such a concern that it will make you lower your sights and have to pick a totally different path in life however....yeah, it needs fixing.

[Berkut]

That would be concerning Tyr, if it were remotely true.

Luckily, it mostly is not, and hence largely irrelevant.

[garbon]

That would be concerning Tyr, if it were remotely true.

Luckily, it mostly is not, and hence largely irrelevant.

Indeed.

[garbon]

Plus lots of people don't plan their life around their career. Lots of people do masters and phds and all that because they love the subject and want to learn more. Or they can't face the real world and want to put it off as long as possible

That's all well and good, and it's fine to pursue one's intellectual interests--but don't bitch about the reality of the situation living in Mom's basement with no prospects for marriage and $188,000 of debt.

I don't know I mean if you are a teen and your parents are all like its a good idea to take on those loans, honey - what real hope of success do you have? You're a teen so you're already likely to do something foolish and then when encouraged by parents and lenders - pretty awful.

[CountDeMoney]

I don't know I mean if you are a teen and your parents are all like its a good idea to take on those loans, honey - what real hope of success do you have? You're a teen so you're already likely to do something foolish and then when encouraged by parents and lenders - pretty awful.

When I floated the idea of film school to my Dad, he told me I didn't need to go to film school to refill his iced tea at TGIFriday's like every other film school grad not named Scorsese.

Pops is a sensitive cat that way.

[garbon]

I don't know I mean if you are a teen and your parents are all like its a good idea to take on those loans, honey - what real hope of success do you have? You're a teen so you're already likely to do something foolish and then when encouraged by parents and lenders - pretty awful.

When I floated the idea of film school to my Dad, he told me I didn't need to go to film school to refill his iced tea at TGIFriday's like every other film school grad not named Scorsese.

Pops is a sensitive cat that way.

Some people have sensible parents (like my mother who said she wouldn't hire a man who had a fem studies minor ) - unfortunately many do not.

[CountDeMoney]

(like my mother who said she wouldn't hire a man who had a fem studies minor )

[Legbiter]

What are her degrees?

[Valmy]

For tuition to be such a concern that it will make you lower your sights and have to pick a totally different path in life however....yeah, it needs fixing.

Yeah ok that is not what I am saying but there is a way do it while giving yourself crippling debt and ways to do it where you don't.  Be smart don't be an idiot.  But I thought you just said you should use college to delay your life and goof off and not because you picked a path you want to pursue.

[Barrister]

Plus lots of people don't plan their life around their career. Lots of people do masters and phds and all that because they love the subject and want to learn more. Or they can't face the real world and want to put it off as long as possible

There are indeed lots of people who do that.  I call them stupid people.