More Virgin Queens

[garbon]

It's not lost until I ally Scots, then lose next resolve.

Not quite.  Since you're eligible to influence the Scots, you're also eligible to lose them.  If the French or the Protestants activate them via Eloquent Ambassador or Scottish Lords Rebel, you'll lose Edinburgh.

I seriously doubt that, you change their diplomatic status. If Scots don't control Edinburgh, whoever becomes their ally doesn't get it, unless holding it already. Only Scottish Lords Rebel is arguable, because if you resolve the status, where do you place their troops if they lost Edinburgh?

3. Place Square Control Markers: Remove control markers
from any keys of this minor where the control marker is from a
major power that was eligible to activate this minor during this
status check. Keys of this minor power that now have no control
marker on them are then marked with square control markers
from the activating power.

[garbon]

Your troops then get displaced I believe.

[szmik]

Your troops then get displaced I believe.

This is weird imho.

When for example Spain fights HRE and Spain has Papacy as the ally, HRE gets Rome through siege, then you resolve status and Rome goes back to Spain if hold as ally?? Really?

[Habbaku]

All the more reason for the HRE to attack Milan instead of Rome.

[Delirium]

The new FAQ actually deals with this:

Step 4(Activate):
If the check was triggered by Scottish Lords Rebel, the procedure is always the same:
1. If result is alliance with England or the Protestant and Mary Queen of Scots is alive in Scotland she becomes captured in England.
2. All Scottish spaces come under control of the power who wins the diplomacy roll.
3. All units in Scotland not allied with the controlling power are displaced. Units allied to the controlling power remain in place.
4. Remove all Scottish troops from the map and replace with 2 Scottish regulars in Edinburgh.

If the check was triggered by Eloquent Ambassador or Mary Queen of Scots, the activation is resolved just as it would be for any other minor power. Step 4 can be divided into these cases and summarized as follows:
 Power that won status check was already Scotland's ally:
o No changes at all take place.
 New power now controls Scotland; all Scottish spaces were controlled by this former ally:
o Deactivate the power from its current ally (if any) and then activate it as an ally of the winning power. All spaces in Scotland will be under control of this power. Units from other powers are displaced if they occupy one of these minor power home spaces that just had a control marker removed.
 New power now controls Scotland; some Scottish spaces were controlled by a power other than this former ally:
o Deactivate the power from its current ally (if any) and then activate it as an ally of the winning power. Spaces in Scotland that had been under English, French, or Protestant control will now be under control of the winning power. Spaces in Scotland that had been under control of another power (such as Spain) remain under control of that other power. Units from other powers are displaced if they occupy one of these minor power home spaces that just had a control marker removed.

[Delirium]

When for example Spain fights HRE and Spain has Papacy as the ally, HRE gets Rome through siege, then you resolve status and Rome goes back to Spain if hold as ally?? Really?

No, if Spain wins the check and keeps the Pope, there is no change to Rome's status, HRE keeps it. Scottish Lords Rebel is the exception, the winner takes all spaces regardless of Scotland's former status, if I read the FAQ correctly.

[katmai]

Preached Sermon in Netherlands

Request: 6-sided die x 5

3
1
6
5
3

Convert Brussels with the 6
s-Hertogenbosch with 5 and unrest placed there as well.

[Habbaku]

Katmai, remember that spaces in unrest don't count for VPs or space count.

Off to Garbon.

[katmai]

Ah yeah, will do.

[szmik]

When for example Spain fights HRE and Spain has Papacy as the ally, HRE gets Rome through siege, then you resolve status and Rome goes back to Spain if hold as ally?? Really?

No, if Spain wins the check and keeps the Pope, there is no change to Rome's status, HRE keeps it. Scottish Lords Rebel is the exception, the winner takes all spaces regardless of Scotland's former status, if I read the FAQ correctly.

FAQ actually confirms that my example is perfectly viable.

[garbon]

France: Play Card as Operations

#72: 4 / War with Poland

Message from France:
3/4 - Patronize Clouet
4/4 - Add 1 dip influence with Venice

Off to Sol.

[garbon]

Oh and I'm off to the Cape, so moves this weekend could be slower and definitely CB-less.

[katmai]

Have fun!

[Solmyr]

Katmai's turn again.

[katmai]

heading to BBQ, so turn won't be in til later this evening/early tomorrow