Argentine Olympic advert calls Falklands "Argentine soil"

[Valmy]

Well, there is no hard and fast rule, but it's one of these "I know it when I see it" cases. I think a situation in which one country holds sovereignty over an isolated and very small piece of land located just off the border/shore of another country is extremely bizarre.

If it is so bizarre and ridiculous you should be able to at least come up with a reason that is somewhat convincing.  I see nothing bizarre about it, extremely or slightly, due to the history of the Americas we have situations exactly like this all over the place.

[Valmy]

I think many Argies would favor that approach.  The problem is their bitch president and all the idiots who voted for her.

Every time I think Argentina can't get any worse, it does.  They just nationalized YPF.  WTF.

Yeah she is the first Argie politician to be hamfisted about the Falklands deal

And yes Argentina is a constant disaster zone.  I can see why those three thousand Falklanders would just assume stay with the UK.

[Barrister]

Well, there is no hard and fast rule, but it's one of these "I know it when I see it" cases. I think a situation in which one country holds sovereignty over an isolated and very small piece of land located just off the border/shore of another country is extremely bizarre.

If it is so bizarre and ridiculous you should be able to at least come up with a reason that is somewhat convincing.  I see nothing bizarre about it, extremely or slightly, due to the history of the Americas we have situations exactly like this all over the place.

I have an example for you.

Ownership of a number of the islands in the Canadian high arctic were discovered by Norwegians, and thus they Norway arguably owned them by right of discovery.  Those rights were ultimately sold to the UK in the early part of the 20th century, and then transfered to Canada.  I gather this was because Norway had no feasible way to control or exploit those islands and that they were clearly a part of the overall arctic archipelago which was owned by the UK.

[The Brain]

  If Argentina wanted to buy the islands and the UK wanted to sell them I'm sure a deal could be made.

[Valmy]

If Argentina wanted to buy the islands and the UK wanted to sell them I'm sure a deal could be made.

Yep.  But that would first require Argentina to admit they actually belong to the UK first.  Plus Argentina has no money.

[Syt]

They could trade them against nationalized Spanish companies.

[Valmy]

I have an example for you.

Ownership of a number of the islands in the Canadian high arctic were discovered by Norwegians, and thus they Norway arguably owned them by right of discovery.  Those rights were ultimately sold to the UK in the early part of the 20th century, and then transfered to Canada.  I gather this was because Norway had no feasible way to control or exploit those islands and that they were clearly a part of the overall arctic archipelago which was owned by the UK.

Well in Canada there is St Pierre and Miquelon.

[Valmy]

They could trade them against nationalized Spanish companies.

[Brazen]

We should tell Argentina they're welcome to the Falklands if they win more medals than us at the Olympics 

[Martinus]

Give the Falklands to Argentina. It's a nice precedent for when the Germans reclaim some of that territory to the east.

See, that's where you fail with retorts like this directed at me - I have consistently claimed that Poland would be better off if ruled from Berlin (or Stockholm, for that matter) than from Warsaw (or Moscow or Vatican).

[derspiess]

Yeah she is the first Argie politician to be hamfisted about the Falklands deal

I'd say by far she's been the worst since the junta.

And yes Argentina is a constant disaster zone.  I can see why those three thousand Falklanders would just assume stay with the UK.

So much potential there, so much former greatness.  Shows you what damage unfettered populism can do over time.

[Admiral Yi]

I don't see you can catch Marty in an inconsistency on this one.  He lives in a country that's circular.  By definition it has no irregular territorial appendages.

[Martinus]

I don't see you can catch Marty in an inconsistency on this one.  He lives in a country that's circular.  By definition it has no irregular territorial appendages.

Not to mention, our borders are pretty natural - two rivers on the Western and the Eastern border, a sea shore in the North and a mountain range in the South.

And all it took were two world wars and a bunch of genocides.

[Razgovory]

Did someone spike Marty coffee with an extra dose of stupid?

[Valmy]

Yeah but it took two devastating wars where we redrew the map of Europe twice to get it in such a pleasing shape.