Argentine Olympic advert calls Falklands "Argentine soil"

Started by Brazen, May 04, 2012, 06:23:33 AM

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Martinus


Martinus

Quote from: Brazen on May 04, 2012, 07:48:03 AM
What do you recommend then Mart? Each country only gets the piece of land on which its capital is based then can only bid for other islands or territories within 500 miles of its coastline or borders?

Well, there is no hard and fast rule, but it's one of these "I know it when I see it" cases. I think a situation in which one country holds sovereignty over an isolated and very small piece of land located just off the border/shore of another country is extremely bizarre.

The Brain

Poland is a lot closer to Russia than the Falklands are to Argentina.
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I hope next time the Brits lob a few fusion bombs on the Argies. Shut them up a bit.
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Sheilbh

Quote from: Martinus on May 04, 2012, 07:50:38 AM
Well, there is no hard and fast rule, but it's one of these "I know it when I see it" cases. I think a situation in which one country holds sovereignty over an isolated and very small piece of land located just off the border/shore of another country is extremely bizarre.
They're not that close, it's 300 miles away, not Tierra del Fuego.  I mean the Canaries, to use your earlier example, are closer to Morocco.
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PDH

Quote from: The Brain on May 04, 2012, 07:57:26 AM
I hope next time the Brits lob a few fusion bombs on the Argies. Shut them up a bit.

That's your solution for everything.
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PDH

Quote from: Sheilbh on May 04, 2012, 07:58:49 AM

They're not that close, it's 300 miles away, not Tierra del Fuego.  I mean the Canaries, to use your earlier example, are closer to Morocco.

It seems a lot closer on the map, like a quarter inch or so.
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Syt

Quote from: Sheilbh on May 04, 2012, 07:58:49 AM
They're not that close, it's 300 miles away, not Tierra del Fuego.  I mean the Canaries, to use your earlier example, are closer to Morocco.

Or Rhodes (and countless other Greek isles) to Turkey.
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barkdreg

Give the Falklands to Argentina. It's a nice precedent for when the Germans reclaim some of that territory to the east.

Syt

Quote from: barkdreg on May 04, 2012, 08:24:28 AM
Give the Falklands to Argentina. It's a nice precedent for when the Germans reclaim some of that territory to the east.

Except that Germany renounced all such claims.
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HVC

Quote from: Syt on May 04, 2012, 08:27:43 AM
Quote from: barkdreg on May 04, 2012, 08:24:28 AM
Give the Falklands to Argentina. It's a nice precedent for when the Germans reclaim some of that territory to the east.

Except that Germany renounced all such claims.
Hey, if you can renounce them you unrenounce them. nounce, re-renounce... whatever you can get them back :D
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The Brain

Quote from: Syt on May 04, 2012, 08:07:38 AM
Quote from: Sheilbh on May 04, 2012, 07:58:49 AM
They're not that close, it's 300 miles away, not Tierra del Fuego.  I mean the Canaries, to use your earlier example, are closer to Morocco.

Or Rhodes (and countless other Greek isles) to Turkey.

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Barrister

You'd think the Argies would try a " you win more friends with honey" approach, if they were serious about getting the islands.  Immediately open up access to the Islands, try and be a good neighbour, then in a few years offer a deal somewhat similar to what Hong Kong got - substantial self-rule, guarantees about the English language, allow dual citizenship.  There would be substantial benefits to Falklanders to being tied more closely to South America, and the UK itself would love to give up the cost of defending the Islands.

But of course the Argies aren't serious...
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derspiess

Quote from: Barrister on May 04, 2012, 08:49:00 AM
You'd think the Argies would try a " you win more friends with honey" approach, if they were serious about getting the islands.  Immediately open up access to the Islands, try and be a good neighbour, then in a few years offer a deal somewhat similar to what Hong Kong got - substantial self-rule, guarantees about the English language, allow dual citizenship.  There would be substantial benefits to Falklanders to being tied more closely to South America, and the UK itself would love to give up the cost of defending the Islands.

But of course the Argies aren't serious...

I think many Argies would favor that approach.  The problem is their bitch president and all the idiots who voted for her.

Every time I think Argentina can't get any worse, it does.  They just nationalized YPF.  WTF.
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