Should voters be required to show photo ID?

[Razgovory]

Did you ever get citizenship DG?

Of course, more than a decade ago.  Kind of dumb to plan to live in the country for the rest of your life without ever getting your citizenship.

My friend's wife still hasn't.  I don't know how old she is, but I think it's pretty close our age.

[DGuller]

Did you ever get citizenship DG?

Of course, more than a decade ago.  Kind of dumb to plan to live in the country for the rest of your life without ever getting your citizenship.

My friend's wife still hasn't.  I don't know how old she is, but I think it's pretty close our age.

Doesn't matter how old she is, it matters how long she's been here.  I don't understand people who are here for way more than five years, and still don't care to get citizenship.  There are many ways you can get fucked in a stupid way without it.

[Admiral Yi]

And driver's license is a proof of citizenship? 

Isn't it?  I thought you had to show a birth certificate when you got your first one but it has been 300 years since my first license so I could be wrong.

[CountDeMoney]

And driver's license is a proof of citizenship? 

Isn't it?  I thought you had to show a birth certificate when you got your first one but it has been 300 years since my first license so I could be wrong.

Nope.  Don't you remember the big stink in the run-up to 2008 over the states that gave DL's out to illegals?

[Admiral Yi]

Then why the hell are Democrats objecting?

[DGuller]

And driver's license is a proof of citizenship? 

Isn't it?  I thought you had to show a birth certificate when you got your first one but it has been 300 years since my first license so I could be wrong.

Aren't you forgetting about legal immigrants?  Legal immigrants have a right to get a driver's license everywhere without a controversy, but they don't have the right to vote (until they get naturalized, but that would take years).

[Admiral Yi]

Aren't you forgetting about legal immigrants?  Legal immigrants have a right to get a driver's license everywhere without a controversy, but they don't have the right to vote (until they get naturalized, but that would take years).

Birth certificate, green card, whatever.

Do you remember what you had to show?  I assume you were a Green Carder at the time?

[DGuller]

Birth certificate, green card, whatever.

The point I was getting at is that driver's license is no proof of citizenship, so proof of citizenship cannot be the reason for not accepting university IDs but accepting DLs.

Do you remember what you had to show?  I assume you were a Green Carder at the time?

I don't, and I'm sure the rules have been toughened up anyway since then.

[Caliga]

I have voted in three states:  Pennsylvania, Massachusetts, and Kentucky.  In the case of the latter two I was asked to show my driver's license.  I've never not done so and never seen anyone else not comply, so I'm not sure what happens if you don't.  I don't remember how it worked in the case of Pennsylvania.

IMO if you can't be bothered to get a driver's license or a state-issued photo ID (assuming every state issues them... I don't know for sure about this) you probably shouldn't be voting.

[derspiess]

I'm more than happy to show my driver's license in Ohio when voting.  Photo IDs are so difficult and expensive to get, I take pride in being in such an exclusive group.

[Jacob]

IMO if you can't be bothered to get a driver's license or a state-issued photo ID (assuming every state issues them... I don't know for sure about this) you probably shouldn't be voting.

Yeah... I guess you'd probably vote for the wrong candidates, eh?

[Razgovory]

Then why the hell are Democrats objecting?

What is it you think the Democrats goals are?

[crazy canuck]

IMO if you can't be bothered to get a driver's license or a state-issued photo ID (assuming every state issues them... I don't know for sure about this) you probably shouldn't be voting.

I am sure that is the plan...

[Maximus]

Yes. And provide an ID that is sufficient for the purpose that everyone can get. $5 with a fee waiver if you can show economic hardship. It's not that hard.

[Razgovory]

Yes. And provide an ID that is sufficient for the purpose that everyone can get. $5 with a fee waiver if you can show economic hardship. It's not that hard.

It is to get it through the courts.  Charging a fee to vote even if it can waived for those with economic hardship is still unconstitutional.