Should voters be required to show photo ID?

[Admiral Yi]

To get my photo ID I had to take a written test and then another one where I paralleled parked.

When you request the non-driving ID they don't make you do those things.

[Razgovory]

What do they make you do?

[crazy canuck]

At the DMV.

So in other words, not trivially easy.

[Admiral Yi]

What do they make you do?

Show proof of identity and fork over five bucks.

It's been a while since I checked the price, could have gone up.

[derspiess]

To get my photo ID I had to take a written test and then another one where I paralleled parked.

Here you can get a state photo ID from the same place you get drivers licenses, without having to take a driving test.  Pretty sure that's the case in most/all states.

[crazy canuck]

Great, so now Americans have to pay for the right to vote.

Why dont the Republicans bring back property ownership requirements and have done with it.

[Razgovory]

What do they make you do?

Show proof of identity and fork over five bucks.

It's been a while since I checked the price, could have gone up.

I believe that would make it unconstitutional.  You can't charge people to vote, even in a round about way.

[derspiess]

Great, so now Americans have to pay for the right to vote.

Why dont the Republicans bring back property ownership requirements and have done with it.

  Fly off the handle much?

[Admiral Yi]

I believe that would make it unconstitutional.  You can't charge people to vote, even in a round about way.

You can get a photo ID for free by joining the military.

[mongers]

It's not as if you have no recourse under these laws if you lack a photo ID.  They still allow the ID-less voter a chance to cast a provisional ballot.  In some cases, they just have to sign an affidavit and you get a regular ballot.

So tell me again why you want voter ID?

On the affidavit issue, there are a number of complications I can see.

First the person has to be able to read the document.  Then they have to understand the document.  Then, if your professional obligations are anything like ours, the person hearing the depondant swearing the affidavit has to satisfy themselves that the person is who they claim to be (usually by taking some form of ID....) and for all that to happen there actually has to be someone at the polling station that can deal with all that.


See any problems with that system or how it might disadvantage some groups and not others?

This.

[CountDeMoney]

I've searched teh intrawebs up and down this afternoon looking for cases of out-of-state students attempting to vote where they're going to school instead of casting absentee ballots for places they have a more vested interest in like, you know, home.

Can't seem to find any.

[The Minsky Moment]

There's a difference between voter fraud and election misconduct.

Please elaborate.

Nixon

[DGuller]

I assume citizenship is the basis for rejection of the university ID.

And driver's license is a proof of citizenship? 

[Razgovory]

Did you ever get citizenship DG?

[DGuller]

Did you ever get citizenship DG?

Of course, more than a decade ago.  Kind of dumb to plan to live in the country for the rest of your life without ever getting your citizenship.