David Frum on the GOP

[fhdz]

On a forum where people regularly wish AIDS on one another

QED.

[Ideologue]

I like to think I generally comport myself in an affable manner.

[The Brain]

I'm a huge jerk and I hate people.

[Admiral Yi]

I like to think I generally comport myself in an affable manner.

[jimmy olsen]

Now, you know I don't think the former.  I'm on record as saying that every pre-FDR American government was practically demonic by modern standards, and every other country's government on Earth was even worse.

Not a fan of TR's reforms?

[derspiess]

Compassion has no place in public policy.  Compassionate conservatism is a suicide pact.  Conservatism should be about conserving the fisc, preserving national security, and being left the hell alone.

Couldn't disagree more strenuously.

Public policy without an element of compassion is not any kind of public policy I want any part of.  Compassion must be an element of every decision, every element, of public policy.

Going right back to basics, conservatism is not about fiscal prudence, national security, and being left alone.  Conservatism is about being conservative, about being careful.  About realizing that our public policies have evolved carefully over centuries, and about realizing that for all its faults, our current system of government (liberal welfare state democracy) is the best form of government in human history.  Now out of those centuries of evolution we have learned that fiscal prudence is essential, that national security is essential, and that limiting (not eliminating) the effect of government on the populace is important.  But that does not make those the first principles of a conservative.

Can we do a conservative exchange program?  I'll take all the Canadian conservatives if Canada takes all American conservatives.  Hell, I'll even become conservative myself to sweeten the deal.

You can just go to Canada and we'll call it even

Scippy was 100% correct.  I'd think pretty much everyone would be soured on the whole Compassionate Conservative thing by now, but I guess not.

[crazy canuck]

Granted I am on the outside looking in at the US but has there been such a thing as "compassionate conservativism in the US".

 

[Ideologue]

Nixon administration.

[Ideologue]

I like to think I generally comport myself in an affable manner.

[Siege]

Oh pleaze, this dude is a liberal.
He doesn't even understand that the goverment doesn't create jobs.
The goverment creates the business enviroment that allows the private sector to create jobs.

[Jacob]

Oh pleaze, this dude is a liberal.
He doesn't even understand that the goverment doesn't create jobs.
The goverment creates the business enviroment that allows the private sector to create jobs.

Hey Siegy, who created your job?

[sbr]

 

[Admiral Yi]

Greece created a lot of jobs.

[Caliga]

Hey Siegy, who created your job?

Osama bin Laden

[crazy canuck]

Hey Siegy, who created your job?

Osama bin Laden

Also largely State funded for Seigy is screwed either way.