Penn State Goings-On

[crazy canuck]

In the heat of the moment it is often hard to know exactly what to do.

Heat of the moment?  I agree that seeing a man anally raping a 10 year old boy in a shower would definitely be disturbing.  But I dont agree that it would be hard to know exactly what to do.  That is if one was considering the welfare of the boy.  It would be pretty easy to say "What the fuck are you doing!" and end the rape right there.  There is no excuse for this.

[crazy canuck]

What about the guy who saw the 10 year old getting raped in the shower.  Why the hell didnt he step in and stop it?

I agree there is a lot of blame to go around here but I cannot understand that part at all.

In the heat of the moment it is often hard to know exactly what to do.

But afterwards, he seems to have done the right thing.  He went and talked to a number of people.  And given how sainted he is, he probably figured all he needed to do was talk to Paterno.

You have to wonder though how this dude was able to just sit there and watch Sandusky walk around a free man on campus for years afterwards though.

I think that lends support to Rasputin's analysis of what occured.

[Barrister]

What about the guy who saw the 10 year old getting raped in the shower.  Why the hell didnt he step in and stop it?

I agree there is a lot of blame to go around here but I cannot understand that part at all.

In the heat of the moment it is often hard to know exactly what to do.

But afterwards, he seems to have done the right thing.  He went and talked to a number of people.  And given how sainted he is, he probably figured all he needed to do was talk to Paterno.

You have to wonder though how this dude was able to just sit there and watch Sandusky walk around a free man on campus for years afterwards though.

Just a resonable hypothesis, but I suspect the GA was removed from the university at some point.  It's typically how big institutions try to hush up these kinds of allegations.

[PDH]

What about the guy who saw the 10 year old getting raped in the shower.  Why the hell didnt he step in and stop it?

I agree there is a lot of blame to go around here but I cannot understand that part at all.

Because GAs are spineless, worthless human beings who cannot intervene or make a decision.

[Admiral Yi]

Has it been established that he was fucking the kid in the ass?

[Valmy]

Just a resonable hypothesis, but I suspect the GA was removed from the university at some point.  It's typically how big institutions try to hush up these kinds of allegations.

Not quite.  Now he is their Wide Receivers coach and Recruiting Coordinator.  One of the highest ranked assistant coaches.

Or maybe he was, it seems he has removed himself from the team right now.

[MadBurgerMaker]

Has it been established that he was fucking the kid in the ass?

That's what McQueary said he saw.  And heard.

[Valmy]

Has it been established that he was fucking the kid in the ass?

That was what McQueary said in the indictment.

[crazy canuck]

Has it been established that he was fucking the kid in the ass?

It has been established that the GA told the Grand Jury that is what he witnessed.

[Barrister]

In the heat of the moment it is often hard to know exactly what to do.

Heat of the moment?  I agree that seeing a man anally raping a 10 year old boy in a shower would definitely be disturbing.  But I dont agree that it would be hard to know exactly what to do.  That is if one was considering the welfare of the boy.  It would be pretty easy to say "What the fuck are you doing!" and end the rape right there.  There is no excuse for this.

Nah.  It really is one of those things you don't know how you'd act unless you were there.  I'd like to think I'd do exactly what you suggest, but who knows...

[crazy canuck]

In the heat of the moment it is often hard to know exactly what to do.

Heat of the moment?  I agree that seeing a man anally raping a 10 year old boy in a shower would definitely be disturbing.  But I dont agree that it would be hard to know exactly what to do.  That is if one was considering the welfare of the boy.  It would be pretty easy to say "What the fuck are you doing!" and end the rape right there.  There is no excuse for this.

Nah.  It really is one of those things you don't know how you'd act unless you were there.  I'd like to think I'd do exactly what you suggest, but who knows...

Maybe if he thought his personal safety was in jeopardy there was some excuse for running away and not saying anything until the next day.  But this has the stench of someone trying to figure out whether doing anything would harm his own career at Penn State.  Its disgusting.

edit:  Dont forget this wasnt some diminutive student who witessed these events.  The guy had been a football player himself.  He could easily have stepped in and stopped it.  His decision not to allowed the rape to continue.  That guy is dirt imho.

[Rasputin]

Has it been established that he was fucking the kid in the ass?

as a matter of fact no; it has, however,  been established that a former graduate assistant testified  to a grand jury that he witneesed such an event and reported that event to a couple of school admintrators and Joe Pa

It has further been established that when Joe Pa and these school admininstrators testified to that same grand jury nine years after the conversations first occured,  they recounted a very disturbing but different version of that same conversation with the ga

[The Brain]

Why didn't the witness call the cops?

[MadBurgerMaker]

finally on the what happened to the ga question, ga's in atheletic departments typically only have one or two year terms and then they graduate in their program and move on naturally

The GA is Mike McQueary, recruiting coordinator and WR coach.  He's been at Penn State since 2000.

[crazy canuck]

finally on the what happened to the ga question, ga's in atheletic departments typically only have one or two year terms and then they graduate in their program and move on naturally

Apparently that is not what happened to this guy though.  One wonders...