Alex Salmond to let 16-year-olds vote in bid to secure independence

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Razgovory

Quote from: Ideologue on October 11, 2011, 08:26:15 PM
Quote from: viper37 on October 11, 2011, 07:42:06 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on October 11, 2011, 07:34:14 PM
Of course I am.  You don't read well.
well you propose an alliance of all anglos.  Not the creation of one big country for all culture.  Or one where english-speakers would be a minority.

An Anglo Union would simply be righting a historical wrong (American independence).

But I'm flexible.  The opportunity to join the European Union would suit just as well (which a union of the Anglo countries under the auspices of the United Kingdom would achieve by default, although obviously it'd probably break the EU entirely, since the outnumbering thing?  Not by my count).

Actually, even in a world state that let anyone in, English speakers would still form a plurality.  Over 400 million native speakers, some 2 billion total.  The language of world administration would not be Belgianese.

What are you, Neil now?  What what purpose would we want such a union?
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Neil

Quote from: Razgovory on October 11, 2011, 09:19:08 PM
What are you, Neil now?  What what purpose would we want such a union?
Hey now.  I hate the idea of a union, mainly because Americans are dangerous lunatics.
I do not hate you, nor do I love you, but you are made out of atoms which I can use for something else.

Razgovory

Quote from: Neil on October 11, 2011, 09:21:38 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on October 11, 2011, 09:19:08 PM
What are you, Neil now?  What what purpose would we want such a union?
Hey now.  I hate the idea of a union, mainly because Americans are dangerous lunatics.

So the American Revolution was a good thing?
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Neil

Quote from: Razgovory on October 11, 2011, 09:25:28 PM
Quote from: Neil on October 11, 2011, 09:21:38 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on October 11, 2011, 09:19:08 PM
What are you, Neil now?  What what purpose would we want such a union?
Hey now.  I hate the idea of a union, mainly because Americans are dangerous lunatics.
So the American Revolution was a good thing?
Not at all.  It let Americans run amok rather than being governed by more reasonable people.  It also permanently skewed you guys towards a dangerous extremism.
I do not hate you, nor do I love you, but you are made out of atoms which I can use for something else.

Viking

Quote from: viper37 on October 11, 2011, 07:31:55 PMif you don't say you want a cock in your ass, you're homophobic.  So be it, I shall be the anti-gay then.

BTW, to be specific. If you don't want any cock in your ass you are a homophobe, if you don't want a specific cock in your ass you are a slut.
First Maxim - "There are only two amounts, too few and enough."
First Corollary - "You cannot have too many soldiers, only too few supplies."
Second Maxim - "Be willing to exchange a bad idea for a good one."
Second Corollary - "You can only be wrong or agree with me."

A terrorist which starts a slaughter quoting Locke, Burke and Mill has completely missed the point.
The fact remains that the only person or group to applaud the Norway massacre are random Islamists.

garbon

Quote from: Viking on October 11, 2011, 09:52:40 PM
Quote from: viper37 on October 11, 2011, 07:31:55 PMif you don't say you want a cock in your ass, you're homophobic.  So be it, I shall be the anti-gay then.

BTW, to be specific. If you don't want any cock in your ass you are a homophobe, if you don't want a specific cock in your ass you are a slut.

:hmm:
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

Viking

Quote from: garbon on October 11, 2011, 09:54:30 PM
Quote from: Viking on October 11, 2011, 09:52:40 PM
Quote from: viper37 on October 11, 2011, 07:31:55 PMif you don't say you want a cock in your ass, you're homophobic.  So be it, I shall be the anti-gay then.

BTW, to be specific. If you don't want any cock in your ass you are a homophobe, if you don't want a specific cock in your ass you are a slut.

:hmm:

let me try the joke again... I think I screwed it up first time round

QuoteBTW, to be specific. If you don't want any cock in your ass you are a homophobe, if you somebody else's cock in your ass you are a slut.
[insert laugh track]

better?
First Maxim - "There are only two amounts, too few and enough."
First Corollary - "You cannot have too many soldiers, only too few supplies."
Second Maxim - "Be willing to exchange a bad idea for a good one."
Second Corollary - "You can only be wrong or agree with me."

A terrorist which starts a slaughter quoting Locke, Burke and Mill has completely missed the point.
The fact remains that the only person or group to applaud the Norway massacre are random Islamists.

garbon

"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

Viking

Quote from: garbon on October 11, 2011, 10:02:43 PM
If you somebody else's cock?

sigh...

QuoteBTW, to be specific. If you don't want any cock in your ass you are a homophobe, if you want somebody else's cock in your ass you are a slut.
First Maxim - "There are only two amounts, too few and enough."
First Corollary - "You cannot have too many soldiers, only too few supplies."
Second Maxim - "Be willing to exchange a bad idea for a good one."
Second Corollary - "You can only be wrong or agree with me."

A terrorist which starts a slaughter quoting Locke, Burke and Mill has completely missed the point.
The fact remains that the only person or group to applaud the Norway massacre are random Islamists.

Habbaku

The medievals were only too right in taking nolo episcopari as the best reason a man could give to others for making him a bishop. Give me a king whose chief interest in life is stamps, railways, or race-horses; and who has the power to sack his Vizier (or whatever you care to call him) if he does not like the cut of his trousers.

Government is an abstract noun meaning the art and process of governing and it should be an offence to write it with a capital G or so as to refer to people.

-J. R. R. Tolkien

garbon

Quote from: Viking on October 11, 2011, 10:10:53 PM
Quote from: garbon on October 11, 2011, 10:02:43 PM
If you somebody else's cock?

sigh...

QuoteBTW, to be specific. If you don't want any cock in your ass you are a homophobe, if you want somebody else's cock in your ass you are a slut.

But what if you just want one cock to be monogamous with? How's that slutty?
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

Ideologue

Quote from: garbon on October 11, 2011, 10:18:19 PM
Quote from: Viking on October 11, 2011, 10:10:53 PM
Quote from: garbon on October 11, 2011, 10:02:43 PM
If you somebody else's cock?

sigh...

QuoteBTW, to be specific. If you don't want any cock in your ass you are a homophobe, if you want somebody else's cock in your ass you are a slut.

But what if you just want one cock to be monogamous with? How's that slutty?

A theoretical construct, like a tachyon or closed timelike curve.  The equations permit such a phenomenon, but they have not yet been observed in nature.
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garbon

Quote from: Ideologue on October 11, 2011, 10:39:08 PM
Quote from: garbon on October 11, 2011, 10:18:19 PM
Quote from: Viking on October 11, 2011, 10:10:53 PM
Quote from: garbon on October 11, 2011, 10:02:43 PM
If you somebody else's cock?

sigh...

QuoteBTW, to be specific. If you don't want any cock in your ass you are a homophobe, if you want somebody else's cock in your ass you are a slut.

But what if you just want one cock to be monogamous with? How's that slutty?

A theoretical construct, like a tachyon or closed timelike curve.  The equations permit such a phenomenon, but they have not yet been observed in nature.

I wasn't talking about me! :o
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

Ideologue

I'm sure there are some purely monogamous gay folk around, but I've never met one; the ones that have serious committed relationships are still pretty open about getting strange.  I assume they operate on some sort of honor system.  I think one of the great advantages is that there need be no tit-for-tat bedpost notching, or feeling of exploitation, since the whole family can enjoy, unlike heteros with open relationships who will need a finer tuned arrangement.

Oh, also, you don't have to deal with women.  That's the other great advantage.
Kinemalogue
Current reviews: The 'Burbs (9/10); Gremlins 2: The New Batch (9/10); John Wick: Chapter 2 (9/10); A Cure For Wellness (4/10)

viper37

Quote from: Razgovory on October 11, 2011, 08:13:07 PM
Clearly you are easily fooled.  Your language policies communicate superiority over other groups.  Why aren't First Nation languages protected in Quebec?
In a way, they are.  Inside their communities, the native languages are sometimes taught in schools.  Nobody speaks Huron anymore, and I think it's the same for the Mohawk communities.  But other languages, like Montagnais are part of the education program in their communities.  They are semi-autonomous, so they pretty much decide what they want to do.  In the Huron village, signs are in some indian language as well as in French, depending on what they choose.

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All the First Nation in Quebec!  They could have a bunch of little countries.  Francophones could have the St. Lawrence river valley (since there weren't any Indians there), the Indians can have the rest.  You know, to protect their cultural distinctiveness.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agreement_Respecting_a_New_Relationship_Between_the_Cree_Nation_and_the_Government_of_Quebec
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