Wall Street protesters: We're in for the long haul

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Ideologue

Quote from: alfred russel on October 14, 2011, 04:14:01 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on October 14, 2011, 04:10:39 PM
I've never heard of that dude.  Cool name, though.

Oh, he's the Solidarnosc guy.

:bleeding:

I guess it is okay, you are just too young.

I've heard of plenty of people you've never heard of, too, Alfred.
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alfred russel

Quote from: Ideologue on October 14, 2011, 04:17:53 PM

I've heard of plenty of people you've never heard of, too, Alfred.

It is just that I  consider him one of the top heroic figures alive today.

My comment about your age was that you didn't live through the fall of communism, so he is just a polish historical figure to you.
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Zanza

Quote from: Ideologue on October 14, 2011, 04:11:03 PM
Maybe he should have been on the right side of history.
He was on the right side of history.

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Ideologue

Quote from: alfred russel on October 14, 2011, 04:22:52 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on October 14, 2011, 04:17:53 PM

I've heard of plenty of people you've never heard of, too, Alfred.

It is just that I  consider him one of the top heroic figures alive today.

My comment about your age was that you didn't live through the fall of communism, so he is just a polish historical figure to you.

I technically lived through it, I guess.  I was like seven. :P

But yeah, that's basically the case.

You know what else is a cool name?  Jagiellon.  Say it out loud.  It's fun.
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Quote from: Ideologue on October 14, 2011, 04:26:46 PM
Quote from: alfred russel on October 14, 2011, 04:22:52 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on October 14, 2011, 04:17:53 PM

I've heard of plenty of people you've never heard of, too, Alfred.

It is just that I  consider him one of the top heroic figures alive today.

My comment about your age was that you didn't live through the fall of communism, so he is just a polish historical figure to you.

I technically lived through it, I guess.  I was like seven. :P

But yeah, that's basically the case.

You wrote insane journals all the time and went to the library?
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Razgovory

Quote from: alfred russel on October 14, 2011, 04:10:24 PM
Quote from: Neil on October 14, 2011, 04:01:36 PM
Quote from: alfred russel on October 14, 2011, 04:00:34 PM
Lech Walesa is flying to NYC to support the occupy wall street movement.
I wonder if he'll be surprised when nobody knows or cares who the fuck he is?

I think he is one of the great heroes of the 20th century, but unfortunately you are right on this. Nonviolent leaders like Gandhi, Mandela, and King get all the press for peacefully fighting imperialism and racism, but anticommunism is ignored.

Very true.  I think it has to do with his peculiar situation.  Many leftists were luke warm on fight the Soviets and many right winners don't want to give so much credit to a Union guy.  That the type of person who is demonized by conservatives in this country dealt so grievous a blow to Communism is a bit of an embarrassment.
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Quote from: Razgovory on October 14, 2011, 04:31:37 PMVery true.  I think it has to do with his peculiar situation.  Many leftists were luke warm on fight the Soviets and many right winners don't want to give so much credit to a Union guy.  That the type of person who is demonized by conservatives in this country dealt so grievous a blow to Communism is a bit of an embarrassment.
I don't think it's that political to be honest.  I think his campaign wasn't televised and in English and there's not been a film about him yet.  I imagine Mandela would only be known to a few people if he spent his time speaking Xhosa.
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Quote from: alfred russel on October 14, 2011, 04:14:01 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on October 14, 2011, 04:10:39 PM
I've never heard of that dude.  Cool name, though.

Oh, he's the Solidarnosc guy.

:bleeding:

I guess it is okay, you are just too young.

I'm younger than Ide and I know who he is. I saw him give a speech at the fall of the Berlin Wall commemoration in '09.

He was also in one of my high school history text books. :D
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Ideologue

Quote from: garbon on October 14, 2011, 05:15:42 PM
Quote from: alfred russel on October 14, 2011, 04:14:01 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on October 14, 2011, 04:10:39 PM
I've never heard of that dude.  Cool name, though.

Oh, he's the Solidarnosc guy.

:bleeding:

I guess it is okay, you are just too young.

I'm younger than Ide and I know who he is.

I know a lot of people you don't too. :grr:
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dps

Quote from: Ideologue on October 14, 2011, 05:50:36 PM
Quote from: garbon on October 14, 2011, 05:15:42 PM
Quote from: alfred russel on October 14, 2011, 04:14:01 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on October 14, 2011, 04:10:39 PM
I've never heard of that dude.  Cool name, though.

Oh, he's the Solidarnosc guy.

:bleeding:

I guess it is okay, you are just too young.

I'm younger than Ide and I know who he is.

I know a lot of people you don't too. :grr:

Guys whose biggest claim to fame is how many times they got fired and re-hired at McDonald's don't really count.

HisMajestyBOB

Quote from: alfred russel on October 14, 2011, 04:10:24 PM
Quote from: Neil on October 14, 2011, 04:01:36 PM
Quote from: alfred russel on October 14, 2011, 04:00:34 PM
Lech Walesa is flying to NYC to support the occupy wall street movement.
I wonder if he'll be surprised when nobody knows or cares who the fuck he is?

I think he is one of the great heroes of the 20th century, but unfortunately you are right on this. Nonviolent leaders like Gandhi, Mandela, and King get all the press for peacefully fighting imperialism and racism, but anticommunism is ignored.

That's because Reagan single-handedly beat the Soviets and ended the Cold War.
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Ideologue

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Quote from: dps on October 14, 2011, 06:02:22 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on October 14, 2011, 05:50:36 PM
Quote from: garbon on October 14, 2011, 05:15:42 PM
Quote from: alfred russel on October 14, 2011, 04:14:01 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on October 14, 2011, 04:10:39 PM
I've never heard of that dude.  Cool name, though.

Oh, he's the Solidarnosc guy.

:bleeding:

I guess it is okay, you are just too young.

I'm younger than Ide and I know who he is.

I know a lot of people you don't too. :grr:

Guys whose biggest claim to fame is how many times they got fired and re-hired at McDonald's don't really count.

Hey, MIM, you remember when you said there was no shame in working at a restaurant?  Apparently there is and no one ever forgets.

I meant historical figures.
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