How the wannabe super-morbidly-obese justify their lifestyle

Started by Brazen, August 24, 2011, 03:21:35 AM

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Valmy

Quote from: mongers on August 24, 2011, 10:07:52 AM
You could well be right.

No doubt.

The whole 'I love people having to help me up' and 'fat people cost less because we die sooner!' are just too absurd.
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Quote from: merithyn on August 24, 2011, 10:03:53 AM
The assumption that all obese people like being catered to, are horribly ill due to their weight, and are overall just selfish people is ridiculous. Just as not all thin people are healthy, not all overweight people are unhealthy.

Well put. 100 per cent agree.
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Valmy

Quote from: Josephus on August 24, 2011, 11:01:25 AM
Quote from: merithyn on August 24, 2011, 10:03:53 AM
The assumption that all obese people like being catered to, are horribly ill due to their weight, and are overall just selfish people is ridiculous. Just as not all thin people are healthy, not all overweight people are unhealthy.

Well put. 100 per cent agree.

Even ones who are 500 lbs and are working to get 1000 lbs?  And I have never seen this assumption that skeletony thin people are healthy.  I would rather see the obese than some of those anorexics.  I mean we are talking about extremes in that article.
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Iormlund

Quote from: Valmy on August 24, 2011, 10:24:00 AM
Also Meri there is a pretty dramatic difference between being 150 lbs overweight and being 500+ pounds.
I would say 150 lbs overweight is dramatic enough. In my case it would be twice (!) my natural weight.

Valmy

Quote from: Iormlund on August 24, 2011, 11:12:32 AM
I would say 150 lbs overweight is dramatic enough. In my case it would be twice (!) my natural weight.

You can still move around and operate and even be pretty active and healthy weighing that much if you have a big frame.  But humans are just not built for 500+
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Malthus

Quote from: Valmy on August 24, 2011, 11:05:19 AM
Quote from: Josephus on August 24, 2011, 11:01:25 AM
Quote from: merithyn on August 24, 2011, 10:03:53 AM
The assumption that all obese people like being catered to, are horribly ill due to their weight, and are overall just selfish people is ridiculous. Just as not all thin people are healthy, not all overweight people are unhealthy.

Well put. 100 per cent agree.

Even ones who are 500 lbs and are working to get 1000 lbs?  And I have never seen this assumption that skeletony thin people are healthy.  I would rather see the obese than some of those anorexics.  I mean we are talking about extremes in that article.

Don't be a hater. Why assume someone is unhealthy just because they weigh 500 pounds, have to ride a scooter, are on oxygen and can't go to the toilet by themselves?

It's a lifestyle choice. She's listening to her rotund body, and likes the sound it makes. If the internet teaches us anything, it is that there are no invalid lifestyle choices.  :D
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Very odd.
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Berkut

While I don't disagree with the basics of Meri's post, I will contest one idea.

There is no equivalence between being obese and being not obese from a health standpoint. Yes, there are unhealthy thin people and healthy fat people, true.

But being think is not in and of itself unhealthy. Being obese is in and of itself unhealthy. All things being equal, a person thinner than another person is less healthy, but on the other hand, being obese IS less healthy, all other things being equal.
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DGuller

Quote from: Berkut on August 24, 2011, 12:03:06 PM
All things being equal, a person thinner than another person is less healthy, but on the other hand, being obese IS less healthy, all other things being equal.
Obviously.

Berkut

Quote from: DGuller on August 24, 2011, 12:08:10 PM
Quote from: Berkut on August 24, 2011, 12:03:06 PM
All things being equal, a person thinner than another person is less healthy, but on the other hand, being obese IS less healthy, all other things being equal.
Obviously.

I am not sure that is as obvious to some people as it should be...
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The Brain

For people who are sexually into being morbidly obese it's not much of a choice. Sexual gratification seems to me to be a very good reason for doing something if you are a human being.
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viper37

I kinda suspect it's the same attitude with a lots of conditions that could be changed. Welfarers will often say they have no choice but to be on welfare, even tough they could easily get a job that might not be their dream job.  Smokers have lots of excuses to continue their filthy, disgusting habit and poisoning our lives.  A drunk/addict always has good reason to keep drinking/using.  Lazy people always have good reasons to avoid work.

Basically, these morbid obese fall into the same pattern as others.  Making some efforts to change your lifestyle is too hard, so you find comfort in your situation.  It's the easier path, and it's, well, easier...

I've become fat over the years, but it's not my fault.  It's my body's fault for not digesting alcohol, chips, fries and burgers correctly.  Silly body.  :D
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Quote from: viper37 on August 24, 2011, 02:51:18 PM
Lazy people always have good reasons to avoid work.

Not really, unless you consider "don't wanna" as a good reason(usually sufficient for me however).
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